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Nintendo predicts first annual loss, lowers earnings forcast

On Thursday, the company announced a loss of $623 million in the nine months that ended December 31, compared to $639 million in profits a year earlier. And the bad news doesn't end there.

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TheGOODKyle4487d ago

Hopefully this makes Nintendo wake up and produce more quality games. How many do they have in the past 5 years for the Wii? 5?

optimus4486d ago

actually i think they've had more quality games but due to the lack of advertising they get buried in the mix of the usual headliners.

tokugawa4486d ago

leave it out, they are just about to release new hardware! i think it is obvious why they have announced a loss.

GribbleGrunger4486d ago (Edited 4486d ago )

a loss always sounds more exciting than 'made less profit' it's not as if they're losing anything, they're just not making as much money as they were in the hay days... but could that ever be sustained anyway? i doubt it.

and as tokugawa so rightly pointed out, the WiiU is just around the corner so of course Nintendo know that the Wii sales will slow even further. i hate these articles. every year and every week is the same.

for instance a game is released and sells well in it's first week, second week sales always slump and then we have headline like: '*insert title* dropped 45% in sales'. BORING. this headline could literally fit any game ever released and yet for some reason it becomes newsworthy

kneon4486d ago

@GribbleGrunger

What do you mean it's not as if they are losing anything? They are expected to lose $837,000,000. That's pretty significant.

They have spent more than they expect to make, that's losing money. I didn't see anything about the loss being due to writedowns or other accounting magic so it appears to be a real loss.

GribbleGrunger4486d ago (Edited 4486d ago )

they don't lose that money. it's not like someone is taking that amount of money out of their pockets. see it as someone putting less money into their pockets. they still gain, but not by as much. less of a gain is not a loss in the truest sense. Nintendo wouldn't say they lost money this year, they'd say they didn't make as much profit as they'd hoped. that's as plain as i can make it, so i hope you understand lol

how can anyone disagree...? lol. you lot just want a loser and a winner and not business sense

@Kneon: lets say you invest £100 into shares of a company and the following year that £100 investment gets you £150 back. now lets say the following year that £150 gets you £175 back. that's loss in terms of expected numbers but it still gives you a profit on your initial £100 investment. that should so it!!!

kneon4486d ago

No, they will have lost money, they will have $837 million dollars less than they did before so they will have lost money.

When you spend more than you make you lose money, it's that simple. They will have less money than when they started the year, how can that not be losing money?

optimus4486d ago

I don't know what numbers Gribblegrunger is reading into as it clearly says that this is the 1st year they "are operating at a loss". i guess it's just wishful thinking on his part. they're not saying that they're going bankrupt otherwise they wouldn't release the wiiU this year. the fact is nintendo is in a bit of trouble not just on the console side but handheld as well...

face it; they were #1 at a time when there wasn't much in terms of competition, now with all the smartphones and tablets flying around that sell for equal if not less of the price of a gaming handheld and with games retailing for a few dollars for those it's hard to keep that lead in that market...just look at the apple numbers in the same article; they're in the billions in profit.

can nintendo make a comeback? sure, but it will have to be by offering something for less that delivers more than those phones or tablets.

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4agemO4486d ago

Now they're on $ony's turf. Good luck Ninty.

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Game Developers Have Begun Confirming Nintendo Switch 2 Support

Game developers have already started to confirm that they will support the Nintendo Switch 2 with their future titles.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno6d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."