VGChartz's Americas Sales for the Week Ending December 8th, 2007

VGChartz posts the hardware and software sales for this past week:

Console 8-Dec 1-Dec Change
Wii 239,413 325,483 -26%
Xbox360 256,249 250,648 +2%
PS3 160,374 155,515 +3%
DS 580,704 458,050 +27%
PSP 174,712 160,848 +9%
PS2 164,990 161,513 +2%

[xplosneer]

You reign is coming to an end. We will miss you.

[masterg]

It sold 165k. How is that near the end?

[gaffyh]

wow the Wii lost 26% and the DS gained 27% that's crazy, must be low stock for the Wii so parents started buying DS as a Christmas gift instead.

[xplosneer]

It's just dying...slowly but surely.

[Danja]

The PS2 is still selling well..considering it's in it's 7th year..where's the xbox or GC..??

ne ways....it's VG charts....utter garbage...!!

The 360 outsells the Wii....LOL..OK VG charts need to drop this BS of inflating 360 figures....well the 360 and VG charts is garbage so they go hand in hand...

[ruibing]

I used to think vgchartz is bad as well, but it doesn't seem like its showing anything drastic or wierd this week except a big drop for the Wii, which might just be an issue with availability.

The numbers with the 360 seems to match with the boost it got from Mass Effect and the holiday seasons. And the PS3 numbers match well with the press releases by Sony for Europe (and I think U.S.).

[power of Green]

I don't get what you posted. Moving alone...

[ry-guy]

If anything VG usually is on the conservative side of their numbers, and it is doing anything but inflating Xbox 360's numbers.

Take Mass Effect for example. It has been officially announced that they have sold over 1 million units, yet VGC has them listed as only selling barely a half a million. Yeah, they sure do inflate those numbers.

Again, I'll wait for NPD numbers before I conclude who sold more hardware. VGC is everything short of reliable.

Edit: I suppose those 2 disagrees are from the point being made. Attached now is a screen capture of VGC's Mass Effect numbers from yesterday when the news was released that ME has sold 1 million units. I just assume that you're too lazy to go do some research instead of making unsupported claims.

[Rick James]

Nobody gets what Danja is saying. He trolls all the message boards praising the PS3 and insulting the 360. Whats funny is PS3 fanboys say VgChartz is accurate as long as the PS3 is beating the 360 in Japan and Europe/Other, but its inaccurate when the 360 beats the PS3 in the US or any of these other territories. I have noticed a trend of certain PS3 fanboys (not owners but the extreme PS3 defenders on this site) to skew facts in thier favor when it's pro PS3, and twist facts when it's anti-PS3. Oh and dont worry I have seen quite a few 360 fanboys do the same. I wish the FUD would just stop. Till somebody shows us a more accurate site or source for sales figures, VgChartz is the standard for which we measure sales figures.

As for the fanboy comments. I just dont understand it to be honest. I mean if the PS3 is in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd life will go on. Heaven forbid somebody prefers the Wii or 360 to a PS3.

I stay out of the PS3 boards. I wont lie I am definetly interested in buying a PS3, so I read the news, but I dont comment about things I know nothing about. Suchs as anything to do with PS3. I dont own it so how could I possibly form a decent opinion on it.

To guys like Danja. It's just a videogame console. Relax, have fun, enjoy what you got instead of worrying about what everyone else has.

[TheZippo]

Bubbles for you Rick James, nice comment. I have recently purchased a PS3 myself and in my opinion everything looks on par with the 360 no more no less (well all except for the interfaces, Xbox blows it away). They are gaming consoles, pure and simple.

[Xbox is the BEST]

360 outsold the PS#2 and PS#3 by a factor of 3:2
Why don't we add Canada's numbers also?

[ruibing]

That ratio does not represent the combined sales.

[Xbox is the BEST]

I know

[gEnKiE]

Ha...its awesome when fanboys let you know to ignore them just by seeing their username...

[ry-guy]

According to VG Chartz methodology, Canada is included in the America sales data.

Check it out, under 'Explaining Data on VG Chartz'

http://vgchartz.com/methodo...

[season007]

i don't think sony needs to worry about its financial status at all with its PS2 sales....look at that
170k console in a week in its 7th year

when the price of PS3 get lower those users are all gonna switch to PS3 with no doubts....and obviously PS department is not having big loss having strong sale of both PS2 and PSP...i am sure they made up the loss from PS3

[Rick James]

Once again it's your opinion. I know many NES, and SNES owners that switched to the PS1 instead of waiting for a Nintendo 64. Same thing with Sega Genesis owners that got a PS1 instead of a Sega Saturn. I should know I am one of those people who got the PS1. Never owned a N64 or Saturn. Thats a pretty big assumption that every PS1 and PS2 owner is goign to stay loyal to Sony and get the PS3. Contrary to popular belief people are able to form thier own opinions and make thier own decisions. Look at how many people decided to get a Ds instead of a PSP, or a Wii/360 instead of a PS3.

Also I hope you know Sony loses money on all of its hardware. PSP loses money so does PS3. Not sure about PS2, but regardless even if they made a profit on PS2 hardware it comes nowhere close to offsetting the money the PS3 is costing them.

With the exception of Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony make thier money on the software and services sales.

[KingKirchner]

Nintendo has ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS owned the handheld market. Sony has done an amazing job just by not being completely thrown out of the handheld market like everyone else who tried to go up against Nintendo there. So don't use the PSP:DS comparison for consoles.

And Sony DOES make a profit off every PS2 sold, not sure about PSP, but I think they might.

regardless, while it's true not every person who buys a PS2 will want a PS3, it is true that by the time they have played the PS2 hits and are ready to go into next gen, PS3 will be much more affordable, and will have sequals to those same games they enjoyed on PS2. the fact that PS2 is still selling WILL help PS3 sales eventually.

However, I think looking at sales is pointless. People should want competition for better products. That's why me Wii gets so little use, because they are still sold out, so Nintendo feels no need to up their game a little.

[MANTIIS]

PS3 has passed the seven million mark. When those Jap numbers come out it will pass 360 in global sales for the week, as well.

[MANTIIS]

look at the numbers, add 2,000 to 360 and 150,000 to PS3 and tell me who takes the lead? Why would you disagree with that you aimless twat?

[season007]

or probably restaurant or gamestop or Toys shops....

the xbots are doing the same thing, they are just going to hit disagree and cry out " no no no i want my baby panda" no matter what their parents...or the truth tell them it is just not possible...

[Genuine]

Why would any 360 owner be crying? 360 owners have the best game console on the market, and last I checked ps3 is dead last.

[HarryEtTubMan]

haha PS3 is gonna win XBOTS ...its already winning worldwide and selling way better in the U.S. wait for next year. PS3 is only at the end of year one.... Its gonna win... I love Xbotx thinking the defective 360 LMAO is gonna beat the Playstation 3 in this marathon....hahahahah WRONG

lmaooooo at the XBOTS below really believeing the 360 has already one...hahahahahahhaha STUPID BOTS...Understand the gap in the WORLD IS GOING NO WHERE NOW. PS3 is keeping up. The PS3 will be out for 9 more years? what do u expect? Its stil 400$ and keeping up... DONT U REALIZE in the nexy couple of years it wil be 250$ or lower? Dont u realize Sony isnt lieing and just becucase the 360 has more consoles sold...with a year head start...hahahaha does NOT MEAN IT HAS WON!@ YOU ARE STUPID AND NAIVE! Get alife! If analyst Micheal Patcher still belives the PS3 very much can win(most respected analyst in the industrey) than what theMART says(35 years old BUM with no job) IT DOESNT MATTER. theMART KNOWS NOTHING.HAHAHAHAHA PS3 still has 2008 will all of its big releases and beyond to prove itself. PS3 can very much still win this marathon. It will in the end...anbd I don think its gonna take that long either

[Snukadaman]

mantiis....i bet you aint never tasted a twat let alone have the audacity too call anyone a twat in their face....why dont you chill out and go count them numbers again...your over by almost a million ps3s.

I stand corrected...7,095,591 at this point.b thanks isa.

[ruibing]

I think he was referring to the total of each console on the main page:

http://vgchartz.com/

[ISA_Scum]

PS3 was at 6.73 million worldwide going into this week. Add these figures with what will be the Euro and Japan figures and it broke 7 million. Source = VGChartz....the same source for this article.

[TheMART]

PS3 will not be able to catch up. If weekly the 360 keeps outselling it by a margin of 100k (same as many months of this year) in USA, that means in USA alone it hits 400k more sales then the PS3.

In Japan the PS3 sales will drop also after the pricedrop effect is gone and the new games on the Wii.

Europe the PS3 and 360 will sell about on par. And the 360 will get a pricedrop also, I think it'll even hit just before Christmas to determine the outcome of the Christmas sales (last minute switching of people that thought about buying a PS3 for 399 and suddenly they see the 360 Premium for 279 to 299 Euro/Dollar.

[TANOD]

meaning 200k per month

GT5 would be launched on the 13th . Expect big ps3 sales boost

so at the end 400k = 200k for EU and 200k for Japan

It evens out

However expect next week's ps3 sales to be higher in EU/NA by the virture of Orange Box, Ut3 and Medal of honour

[season007]

even if your statement hold true, the 400k gap can be easily even out by PS3 by europe and japan now

when big guns arrive PS3 next year, it will start outselling xbox 360 world wide........ and when local games arrive PS3 for japanese (i assume after the big guns are all out and decent numbers of consoles are out...) at between summer and fall? what would happened? it will be even in NA(optimistically for xbots), outselling in both Japan and Europe for around 500k/ month combined.....

you can have your last hope till around...ehh...next march, so have some wet dream seeing your xbox.. =)

[ry-guy]

I'll agree on UT3 but I doubt it will be a system seller, it is going to be multiplatform. If you were sitting on your hands waiting to get a PS3 because of UT3 than you are a one dimensional gamer.

Moving on, for those that wanted the Orange Box they have either bought it for the PC (which everyone has one of!) or for the Xbox 360. If they wanted it badly enough that they'd have to choose a system why would they choose the, as IGN just recently put it, the "slower cousin" verison (PS3). The game wasn't even finished for the PS3 verison with speculation it was going to be delayed again into 2008, you all ready had the game sitting right in front of you available for a cheaper console.

Finally, people still play MoH games?

[Genuine]

It seems delusions of grandieur is a common trait for people like you. The ps3 has already lost this generation. Ps3 would have to outsell the 360 by almost 600,000 consoles a month for a year just to catch the 360. Let's just say the ps3 starts outselling the 360 by 200,000 a month worldwide. It would be 4 years before the ps3 even caught up. Just in time for this gen to be over.

And another thing, do all sony fanboys seriously believe that MS is going to sit back and watch while sony tries to catch up. If there is any company that started this generation with heart and passion for gaming intact, it was Microsoft. It has paid off, because the 360 is a gamer's game machine. One thing the 360 certainly isn't, is a trojan horse for a companies in-house movie format.

[TANOD]

even at a 100 pound/$/euro price difference ps3 is outselling the x360 all over the world except NA

It is x360 which is finished. x360 has nothing after Halo 3.

PS3 has the biggest games of this gen GT5, FF13,FF13 versus ,MGS 4 and KZ2 .

come 2008 ps3 would outsell x360 by atleast 200k per week in EU and 500k during the XMAS 2008 season.

in 2008 ps3 would also reign Japan as yu have seen that wii's major games didnt make thta much of an impact on hardware sales and wii sales are dropping/wii's software sales were also disappointing recently

from 2008 , PS3 will also rule NA. The ps2 owners would switch to ps3 but not x360

[TANOD]

what can MS do?

They have no games after Halo 3.

Mass effect moved 0 units in Na,eu and japan

Fable 2/Ng2 /Too Human are not system sellers

There is no way x360 could counter FF13,MGS4,LBP,FF13 versus,GT5 and KZ2.

PS3 has the best lineup of exclusive games of 2007 --HS,WARHAWK, RATCHET ,UNCHARTED,RESISTANCE,MOTORSTO RM and UT 3

Wardevil , WKS , SO4 ,Resistance 2 are more than enough to counter Gears2, Feeble, Too Human and NG2 (only subpar games which are left for x360)

GTA 4 would probably sell more copies on PS3 and convert ps2 --ps3 owners. GTA 4 ps3 version would also undoubtedly outsell x360 versions in EU and JAPAN

[Genuine]

You and "season" seem to be suffering from the same mental condition.

EDIT-Mass Effect has already sold over a million copies retard.
http://digg.com/gaming_news...

[TUFFnNYC]

Its been proven that VGCharts is full of sh*t like a dogs insides my brother. Dont get to excited. If you saw the ps3 beating the 360 you would say the same.

[actas123]

First of all, at "Genuine", why you calling people retards? what is up with you kid, if you have some problem then contact your psychologist don't come here and show us all what sh*t you got.
Second, with the reliability issues that the 360 has and will have, I doubt that it will stay the dominant console in NA and definitely not in the world. Americans are way smarter than "Genuine", this guy is the black sheep of America.

[Genuine]

Aww, I hurt the little babies feewings. I sold my ps3 last week because I never used it. Guess what I bought with the money? I bought my son a 360 and 3 AAA exclusive games. How many AAA exclusives have you played on ps3, oh wait there are no AAA exclusives for ps3.

http://www.gamerankings.com...

@prod vvvv

Does anyone else notice how insane sony fanboys are? Yeah, MS spent billions to make the 360 a success, and they are going to throw in the towl now that they are beating Sony. Seriously, do you sony maniacs realize how irrational your thinking is? Me thinks you sony fanatics had better prepare for more upset.

[prodg52]

what happens when MS gives up before the PS3 catches up? This will most likely be the case

[gamesblow]

R&CFTD sure did shoot up the last week... It went from 230,000 sold to over 500,000 sold. Good on it! That is one helluva game! I'm glad to see strong sales outside of the u.s for it. It deserves to be a million seller, and it will be. By years end, with it selling like it is now, it'll be at around 700 to 800,000 no doubt. By early next year... A million seller. Tehy said Reistance was their fastest million seller ever... I think R&C will beat that.

[TheMART]

As said by others above: even if the PS3 starts outselling the 360 world wide, it needs such a big difference in sales, to only catch up to those 15 mln. 360 units already sold...

It takes years with double the 360 sales figure to reach the same position. Which the PS3 won't be able to do. At best they get on par with the 360 in number of units sold. Thus: in worst case already massive succes for XBOX, last gen 3rd with distance, this time 2nd at least with about the same amount of units as the Playstation. If the 360 keeps up doing better, the PS3 will even remain 3rd with less units sold then the 360.

Software attach rate is another one. PS3 unit has 3.6 games sold per unit, 360 sells 6.6 games per unit.

Sorry, its just victory for the 360 either way you see it. The 360 has to stop selling completely for the PS3 to take over, which it obviously won't

[SmokeyMcBear]

two things.. #1 its not 15 million sold, its 14 million ( werent you one of the ones screaming 12 million units sold last march???) Secondly.. look at the wii.. the wii did it.. what makes you think when the ps3 actually releases games people want can't do it... what color is the sky is your world? Green probably

[Genuine]

I would say that it would be safe to assume that th 360 will hit 15 mil by the end of the year. It already has the ps3 outsold 2-1 in hardware and software attach ratio.

Everyone thinks 2008 will be the year of the ps3. I don't see it that way. I look for MS to make some key 3rd party titles exclusive. And we will likely see plenty of 3rd parties completely drop the ps3. We will probably see sony lose several key exclusives also. 360 has the install base and a record breaking attach ratio. Developers will go where the money is, and that's certainly not the ps3.

MS has already knocked the mighty Sony on it's as*, now I look for them to go in for some "ground 'n' pound".

@vvv
Ps3 is at 7 mil, 360 is at almost 15 mil. That's a little over 2-1 braintrust. Also if 15 mil is a joke, what does that make 7 mil, a joke wth no punchline? The people that have been purchasing ps2's for the past 2 1/2 years are the ones who couldn't afford one for $300. Guess which console will hit the $150-$200 pricepoint first? We'll see if those people are disgusting fanboys like the ones that troll this website.

[SmokeyMcBear]

ah genuine... first of its not 2:1... and its only in the US.. something many americans fail to understand.. the world is a lot bigger than the US.. time will tell buddy, all I know is none of the titles that the ps3 hopefuls have been looking for have dropped, NONE. And there are 4 very very big games that have yet to see the light of day. Take that into account, as well as ps2 sales still selling very strong (future ps3 owners), and you will see a very very bright future for sony. 15 million is a joke... 20 million is a joke, remember the xbox1 sold 26 million in 4 years... looks like the 360 is right on track. Come back when one breaks 30 million, you will then have something to harp about.

[TexasJock66]

I wonder what the reaction would be if the PS3 numbers were higher than the 360? Would the PS3 fanboys still call these results garbage or inflated? Things that make you go hmmmmmm.

[wiizy]

damn nintendo need to get more wii's out there....so no other console even come close to their numbers....damn production issues

[EasilyTheBest]

But wouldnt you all agree that before the Wii and PS3 came out we all expected the PS3 to have the sales of what the Wii has now, and we expected the Wii to be trailing in 3rd where the PS3 is now.
Nintendo must be breaking out the Wine every month!
I enjoy reading N4G every day even some of the what the Fanboys have to say... PS3 fans have been saying for months and months 2008 is the year for PS3, hey come on, we heard all that shxt in 2006, "just wait till the PS3 comes out itll kill the Xbox 1.5 DEAD.
Why cant we all just wait and see. Theres got to be a few people on here with an ounce of sense.
Its going to be great for all Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo but mostly its going to be great for us, the game buyers..

[Snukadaman]

where the wii is right now the ps3 would be IF they didnt have the price it started with. No games...problems with madden and all and I say it would be where the wii is and xbox would be third...no doubt about it.

[Bladestar]

exactly I want it... let Sony take over the world.. but not the US, the UK and canada... primarity because I live in the US. Let Sony own those other countries... well.. in terms of hardware... something that Sony fanboys don't want to talk about is that software wise the xbox 360 is selling more games everywhere; which is what matters to 3rd party developers. If the xbox 360 manages to take UK, US and Canada from Sony this gen... I think is better than anyone expected... there will be enough time to take over those other regions during the XBox 720 which will probably be released 2-3 years before the PS4. I'm sure microsoft is not worry that Sony is winning in countries like Germany, France and others that all combined do not equal 2-3 of the regions the xbox 360 is winning.

[felidae]

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@TheMART

[rhood022]

I like how the xbox kids are calling an end to the "war" 1 year into actual competition with no perception of the fact that this thing is at least 5 years (unless the 360 ducks out early) in length.

And the argument that the PS needs to sell (X number) consistently to catch up is asinine b/c x-kids don't look at the other side of this trend: that 360 sales could slow dramatically over the next fear years.

I guess hubris, shortsightedness and claims of premature victory is not just a political trait of Americans and the British, but transcends into entertainment as well.

Its sad really.

[prowiew]

Vgchartz sucks. Only exists because of fanboys So they can argue which console would win this holiday or next holiday. So fanboys from USA can argue who wins in Japan, Spain, India, Australia and every single country they dont even know where they are. Who freaking cares!!

[eagle21]

Mart is dreaming. 2008 is gonna be _ _ _ year. You fill it in! I will add a P.

[darthv72]

the internet I would always read about how games and systems were doing in other regions of the world. I would think why it is in japan and game or system would perform completely different than in EU or US. Yet the question is...do all regions have to be the same? Why cant one system or format be different in one region than the next. It is nice if all regions adopted the same view on games/content/systems/format but the truth of the matter is we dont. So i really care less how a system does in a country that has no bearing on my own. That is why i live where i live and not over there.

Format war, console war, war in general...they all suck. I support games. GAMES! So that takes me away from the specifics of one format/console over the other. I will enjoy entertainment as it pertains to me and if that means that I am buying games or movies for a dead format then so be it. It doesnt mean I cant enjoy my laserdiscs or colecovision games any less. I am a fan of entertainment in general and feel it is better that others give up the "sides" and just pick up a controller and game on.

Give 'gaming' peace a chance.

[beoulve]

Sony is gaining Fanbase on 3 end which is a very good thing. The longer PS2 can hold, the better for sony, because it will nullify XBOX 360 headstart and expensive PS3 price. With PS2, PSP, and PS3 thing definitely look good for Sony.

[TheExecutive]

you fools dont get it... especially genuine. ALL of the titles that made the ps brand what it is today come out next year. It looks like the PS3 is matching the 360's total global sales weekly and this is supposed to be THE year to buy the 360. IF the PS3 matches the 360 in global sales this christmas, which according to Genuine, the ps3 doesnt even have a AAA title, what do you think will happen next year? The 360 is going to get slaughtered, thats what is going to happen.

Take a long hard look at GT5: Prologue. That can only be done on one console and its not the 360. When it comes down to it, the games that are coming out next year will not only show that the PS is here to stay but its going to show that the PS3 is still king of the mountain. Don't take my word for it, wait and watch.

[BIGBAER]

You claim GT:Whatever can "only be done on the PS3" but I call B.S.! What makes GT4.5 or GT:5-Finished Version so almighty special that it can only be done on the PS3?

Does it have a physics engine that refreshes up to 360fps, the same as Forza 2 does? Does it have the same level of performance modifications and body mods as Forza 2? Does it have a built in paint shop and LIVE VIEWING of races as they happen?

Does it have the same level of complex damage modeling and its affect on performance?

No? Not really? I didn't think so!

GT5 (the final, finished version somewhere down the line...) claims to offer 900+ cars. Even though many will be very similar models, 20, 30, 40 Sentras? it's still a comendable feat---BUT!!! Forza 2, withs it vast amount of performance and body customizations offers thousands upon thousands of car model variations, each with its own accurately reflected and rendered set of physics.

GT4.5 (prologue---unfinished) won't do it. But how close will GT5 come... Besides it's obvious pretty face, just how much actual meat will GT5 deliver?

Polyphony has already tried to cover their butts by saying GT5 won't offer as much as Forza 2. They stated that what they will offer will just be better.

But I wonder. Technically and gameplay-wise, the original Forza was better than GT4. Technically and gameplay-wise, Forza 2 raised the bar considerably. Rather than asking if the 360 can run GT5, how about asking if the PS3 can run FORZA 2?

[TwissT]

I don't really care about the sales of the 360,Wii or Ps3 but the Ps2 sales are amazing for a console in its 7th year, personnaly I think its ONE OF (NOT THE BEST, ONE OF)the best consoles ever.

[Snukadaman]

being a parent...I would rather pay 130 bucks and buy a couple of games with it then too pay 400 bucks and have too get a couple of games also. Thats why the wii is doing well right now...as i said...your paying 250 bucks for what people perceive as the "next gen".

[Padre]

PS3 software bombed, LOL LOL LOL (Ratchet and Uncharted are FLOPS, go and see the sales PStards.)

[SmokeyMcBear]

hmmm in looking at the software... with 9+ million consoles out there for the 360, about 1.7 million units of software was sold. With 2+ million consoles for the ps3, 0.7+ million units of sofware was sold. Looking a the ratios 0.18766 and 0.2596, respectively, it looks like with the install base of the ps3, it is selling with a better software units sold ratio. Interesting... gotta love statistics

[Snukadaman]

at this time last year..gears of war sold its first million games in its third week...which some people compare uncharted too be superior too gears of war. how does a console with as we speak has almost 3 million owners, cant support all of their best games? people like too compare ps3 sales to xbox 360 sales..they are wrong...by comparison uncharted at their 4th week out is at 232,034..while at the 4th week of being on the charts gears of war sold 1,315,828..more then a million over...granted there was almost 4 million 360's but if that was the case...uncharted should be at 800K at least too be in comparison with the 360. anyone else think selling 150k ps3 sort of stagnant for this being a holiday also?

[SmokeyMcBear]

i think its because 360 owners had absolutely nothing else to play, and I mean utter crap that first year, that and the fact that xbox 1 was completey dead so no new games from there.. that could be a factor.. just guessing though

[Snukadaman]

oct 28th 2006...theres 5 titles in the top 10...again...third party titles were selling very well....what you call crap the ps3 has not had more then 4 titles in the top 10. tom clancy splinter cell in 2 weeks sold more then ratchet and clank in 7 weeks...face it smokey ps3 sales of software is still abysmal and any comparisons with xbox is null and void.

[xg-ei8ht]

Shame but those stats are wrong.

I have someone in the know, and they've already said ps3 is shifting over 200,000 ps3 in usa.

[KingKirchner]

I still hate how Wii is dominating without putting any effort into it. (this coming from someone who ONLY owns a Wii right now)

Seriously, they SHOULD get their act together, because I barly touch my Wii (try not to giggle) There are 3 or 4 really good games for it, but there's nothing with Online to keep you busing inbetween game releases like 360 and PS3 have.

I'm just very underwhelmed with the Wii and I know most of it's sales are from people just wanting to play Wii Sports.

[batman2million]

MAN! the DS is unstoppable!