"Razer stressed that the tablet is only a prototype at this stage, but hopes to have a tablet based on the Project Fiona concept available on the market in Q4 for the rather hefty cost of $1,000."
I think I'd rather put that money towards a Vita. And a PS4. And the next Xbox. All of which combined would probably wouldn't cost much more than that tablet.
Don't forget dual thumb sticks. We have wanted them for so long on a portable device and now we have them we are going to be so quick to just dismiss them?
The actual Vita hardware isn't really that overpriced, but the proprietary media is.
Regardless, this comparison is silly as the Vita is using an ARM SoC while the Razer "tablet" is using a Core i7(likely a 17W variation like the 2677M) with some sort of low-power dedicated AMD or Nvidia GPU.
PS Vita is offering a real and hardcore experience with decent specs.
I think it's reliable to compare those experiences when both of them are meant to satisfy gamers who want to play games everywhere.
In terms of experience and flexibility, PS Vita looks like a really interesting device with this implementation of crossplatform online play with PS3.
It's a very interesting and fresh way to play games and actually an inovation that medias don't talk so much about.
So no it's not silly, when you can play Fifa 12 or Wipeout on your Vita, you experience a trully decent experience for a very reasonable price. I think by the past Sony did not always done things right, this time it seems very different for me.
Very interesting device, and trully competitive in terms of prices, power with a large catalog of games.
This tablet looks really nice, i don't say it isn't. Just that i feel that the Vita is actually fiting the market with sense.
I'm not bashing the Vita, it's a pretty powerful and compelling device at $250. I'm saying it's a silly comparison because it's a $250 device running a SoC that uses at most 1-1.5W of power. The Razer tablet's CPU alone uses around 17W of power, and the GPU will probably be another 15-20W.
This is like comparing an iPhone to a Macbook Pro.
First its all doom and gloom for the Vita and consoles lately, Now its biggest challenge is a 1000$ "gaming" tablet with all the bells and whistles except dual analogs. And yet 600$ was too much for the PS3, for this price id just get a gaming PC
Yea the LULz continue....thanks gaming journalism always good for a laugh
But this tablet isn't really all that portable either. I can't see people lugging this around and using it on the subway, it's just too big. And if I'm at home I'd rather use a console or PC for gaming.
This product fills a non-existent niche, and one that doesn't need filling.
One of the funny things about the $600 price tag was that it was declared as being too much by a bunch of well paid journalists who will get to play the system for free actually in like 2 seconds after the announcement.
Not to mention that in order to use the device as a decent portable gaming one you have to use those controls. Which as seen in the picture makes it incredibly bulky to carry around. Fanboys complain about the size if the Vita (see IGNs review in YouTube) but this tablet plus the controls make it seem tiny in compraison.
You can two gaming PCs that play all the latest games on the highest settings for that price with two cheap monitors and a couple of Xbox 360 controllers. You could literally have your own PC multiplayer setup for $1,000...
Let's break this down. Against vita: Not a chance. The power might be there but its not portable what so ever. Looks pretty bulky and if the finish product is thinner still won't make a difference because the size will still be big due to the screen.
Against consoles: The screen just isn't big enough to have the immersed experience that the consoles have with let's say a 55inch. In serious note I doubt consoles will die off because of how much they are capable of doing now a days (Netflix,hulu, etc.). Especially with new technology improving there life cycles and forming new ways of interaction (kinect/ps move & Wii)
CES 2012 showed a lot of technology that could be implemented into the next gen so I can't wait to see what Microsoft and Sony will come out with this time. It's mind blowing on how much gaming has change in just 15 yrs.
I agreed cause I would not buy a tablet for $1000, thats crazy. But PS Vita alone is gonna cost you around or over $500 after games and memory. Same goes for any launch console. I paid $750 for Xbox 360/ almost $900 for PS3 at launch. That includes games and extra controllers. I don't know about you but when I purchase a gaming console I need everything. The only thing keeping me away from Vita are the memory prices. Way to steep. Anyway good gaming man...
Yes I live in US. I don't know why all the disagrees. PS Vita $299+taxes for 3g, thats not including extra memory, games or any other accessories. People on this site love to disagree..FYL!!
Yeah but that tablet will probably be more powerful than the PS4 and next xbox. My high-end computer will laugh at next gen as it is. Wait until I add a second GTX 580! Though still I have to wait until those consoles release for developers to take full advantage of my pc's hardware.
Tablets are for reading ebooks and porn most of this technology is worthless for gaming. I doubt if it can do 4k resolution or even anything controlling an action game such as GOD of War 3.. or 1080p GT5 or 6 for that matter.
Okay, so, some facts... If the tablet can run Skyrim on ultra high at an average of 35FPS above 720p (which is what it's doing), the device is graphically at least 2x stronger than a 360 or PS3. FACT.
That having been said, on Skyrim, if you turn down the resolution to 1280x720p, put the default settings on medium, turn on FXAA, AA at 2x, 16xAF, then you will see the device running Skyrim at 60FPS--meaning, in layman's terms, it will play at CoD speeds--at console settings. FACT.
That having been said, this is a great option for PC gamers on the go. However--OPINION...
The Vita and Project Fiona can't compete because they're not even in the same boat. You're essentially comparing a portable computer to a portable dedicated gaming device with an exclusive library of games catered to that specific device. The PS Vita is great, it's simple and easy for the average user. Fiona comes with all the complications and hassles of PC gaming, even if it is all bundled up and ready to go. Unless they can get in cahoots with Steam for a built-in tablet interface, and advertise the shit out of it, you won't be seeing the Fiona take off like the Vita. Then again, I feel like 2013's cheap laptops will have dedicated Intel graphics that will outperform consoles and so the $1000 laptops will leave no room for Razer's "powerful gaming tablet" (since it will be super outdated). Here's a fact though--consoles are so outdated right now that my November 2010 Macbook Air outperforms consoles on most games--including Skyrim. By outperform, I mean 1-2 second loading times, instant auto-saves, don't even get me started on graphics.
Oh, and another opinion, the cost of the Vita+Nextbox+PS4 will probably be much more than $1000. Next gen consoles running at $300 would be the fastest way to bankrupt Sony with the economy in its current state, and a really smart--yet evil--tactic by Microsoft since they could take a hit like that. I'm thinking $400-600 per console realistically, especially if we're making a huge performance and graphical jump--and Q4 2014, or we'll be disappointed. No doom and gloom, that just seems more understandable.
Yeah, the reason I want a Vita is because it has the power of a console that can fit in my pocket. I already have a gaming PC that can play games on Max, a console for and with the Vita I'll be set. Don't see where I would use something like Fiona.
Um it's hardly portable is it? what you're going to crack that out on the bus or train-where the hell would you balance the tablet whilst you play on the controller.....? that's always been the thing i've never understood when people argue "yh well you can buy a controller to play on the tablet"; why would you use 2 items and lug them around when you can use one machine that's a quarter of the price at least assuming there's no price drop between now and the end of Q4- which there almost certainly will be....
edit: ok i had though those controllers were seperate in the picture just realised they are connected; however it's still far to big to be truly 'portable' I'd rather buy a high spec laptop for less money and take that- buy a bluetooth controller for it because that's still inconvineint to take out and play/carry around with you....
While this device may have nice hardware and such, I really think the tablet is the one of the absolute worst, gimmicky innovations ever to hit the electronics world.
Perfect for Americans who need to have the latest fad. Common sense suggest that buttons are not only better, but necessary. We wouldn't want to rub our television screens. The idea that only a flat slate can economically get the job done is awful.
You can build a capable computer to run all current games for about $500..
I spent $600 building mine almost 3 years ago and its still able to run current games.
I usually have a game running on my monitor and a tv show via hdmi to my tv at the same time with just my HD 4890 video card, 4gb of ram, x6 amd cpu, none of it over clocked.
If people want a different option to spend money on, get an iphone/ipad with game pad attachment, an apple tv and play using airplay on your tv screen...
You can also use your iphone/itouch as a gamepad for ipad games.
not even my old PC(I keep it around for friends to play on) can run any multiplat 1080p at 40-60fps with 4xAA and I built it 4 and a half years ago for $640 CAD.
It would need to pivot the tablet screen so you wouldnt have to hold it right in front of yourself. Other than that it would work well for throwing your tablet in a bookbag or on a car trip, other than how stupid it looks. Id much rather just buy a vita or 3ds or even better a laptop that can handle games.
Main problem I see with this thing is its size. Too big to be a portable, too small to justify playing at home with.
The only conceivable use I could see for this, would be for taking on a trip, and using only once you're reached your destination. Like when you're in the hotel... But then you may as well have bought a better performing laptop for the same money if you're going to do that. Not to mention, with a Vita, you could have played during the travel too.
Talking about vita, I don't understand how people think,in Japan. They used to love Sony consoles,but ps3 didn't do very well,there.I mean, it could have sold 5 times more,there. I have the feeling they don't like/buy games where they can't collect or kill monsters. A good uncharted game, or a god of war 3, or a batman, mass effect,halo, gears, I mean, besides monster hunter games, pokemons, small jrpg, Mario kart games and marios, everything else simply doesn't sell well. Different culture, you may say.I mean, if you take the rest of the world,we are quite open minded,regarding games.I would say totally open-minded. You can take the Australia,europe,usa,almost every country in the world, people have absolutely no problem when buying a console or a game.they may pick 20 different games of 20 different kinds of games, and they will be happy discovering them. But if we take Japan,its just almost impossible for people to buy other kind of games then those I mentioned above.in their minds, its just impossible to say "well, this uncharted 2 game got dozens of goty prizes, I'm curious, I'm gonna pick it and try it". No, this looks impossible and will hardly happen. When you see digital polyphony,they had to put those hundreds skylines and many other Japanese cars, to attract Japanese gamers.replace all those Japanese cars by american or European ones, and nobody will buy gt5, in japan, people would feel dishonored.
It's just a pity to see new consoles being released in Japan,before the rest of the world, and to see the vita isn't selling great there, because there isn't any 144th version of monster hunter or pokemon game available for vita.
When most of us, wouldn't eat,sleep and drink during 5 days,just to get one Vita, In Japan, many people simply don't want to play uncharted or other western games, because, well, "if its not made in Japan for Japanese,we don't buy".
They don't realize the chance they have.they really don't.
Honestly, x720 and ps4 may be as powerful as a supercomputer, when these consoles are released in Japan, 70% of the first Wii owners will already have bougth a new hd console to replace the old wii: the new Wii U.
Nintendo will release the Wii U with several monster hunter games,on day one, along with 3 new versions of pokemon, with a few more shovelware games, a new Mario kart hd, a super Mario hd, a new Zelda hd, and there you have: Nintendo will sell 10 million Wii U on the first month,or even more.
Ever heard the term "You reap what you sow"? What happens to that elitist dude in the corner who never wants to see anyone's point of view but wants your to look at his? That's Japan. The problem with being too centralized and concentrated on your own territory is that you loose out on the opportunity to LEARN and be inspired by people outside of it.
that's right. when sony and microsoft fight with megahertz so we can have powerful consoles with hd graphics, nintendo releases a 600Mhz console(not sure about that) with crappy graphics, with cheap chips inside, so they start making money with every console sold.
nintendo knows many people would buy the wii to their kids, who wouldn't care about hd or sub hd graphics. sure, many gamers bought the wii as well, because they liked what nintendo had to offer to them, regarding hardware (nintendo innovated with the and motion detection) and software (all the games where you could simulate cooking an egg, with the motion thing).
sure, at the beginning, everybody was enchanted with that move stuff we hadn't seen before.
but once again, nintendo flowed the gaming market the same old games, marios, karts, monsters, pokemons, etc etc, and during these years, very few "good" games were released, like resident evil, etc. very few games that didn't look like the "classics". but the worst thing, were all those shovelware games, that looked all the same. these games made people buy another consoles, and made the wii collect dust. i'm sure 10 people who bought wii, and didn't copy games, maybe 7-8 stopped using it for a long time, now.
i remember the old good games from the 8bit era.but after that time, nintendo sold a lot of consoles, portables or not, brought us some good games. but with the wii, they didn't thought about gamers. they thought about their shareholders and bosses.
i'd really like to buy the wii u, because i believe it could bring us some fresh air, in the world of uncharted/gears/cod/ games. Ps4 and x720 will surely be amazing, with some incredible games. Having a wii U with some of the most greatest games from nintendo, in hd glory, could be awesome as well.
But if nintendo starts releasing the same old games, over and over, and makes 3 different versions of mario kart, luigi vs mario, mario this, mario that, etc etc, i don't think i will give my money to nintendo. since they always make cheap consoles, so they make money, i'm really insterested on the final specs of the wii u. will they use some great cpu and graphic chip, with a good online ? or will they make a cheap hd console, with a 1GHz cpu, 512mb of ram, just enough to make another 400 shovelware games ?
nintendo has the power and creativity. they could bring us some incredible games. it's a pity they mostly focus on those "made in 6 months) games, so the market is flowed by quantity.
for a big part of the world, gaming doesn't exit. for the average guy, except some rich guys, gaming is somehow, a lust. spending 60$ on a game isn't nothing. many gamers are young and rely on their parents to buy them games.
nintendo should care about those customers, and not give them only shovelware games and monster hunters and pokemons. 60$ is a lot of money.
thankfully there is sony and microsoft on the market. they have released hundreds of incredible good games since 2005, and if a wii owner decided to buy the x360 or ps3, he would have hundreds of games to play, for the price of a wii game, he could buy 4 or 5 great games, with score from 8.5-10,in hd , with online features, and incredible 5.1 or 7.1 sound.
nintendo, please, give me a good reason to buy your wii u when it's released. i'm ok to a couple of good classics(can't imagine a 8 player mario kart game, in hd), but please, use your creativity, and bring use some incredible new franchises. otherwise, i will be buying games for my ps4 or x720.
for $1000, no thanks i could buil two end pc's for that price, think i'll just get a 3ds and a vita instead and oh yeah have an high end pc, all for less than that ridiculous price!!
"I'm excited already hope they can get enough developers on board to make games for it."
That tablet runs on intel x86 CPU and has DX compliant GPU.Making games for it is like making games for PC,min specs compliant = good to go
Tablets are a clear way to go,they just need proper controls(buttons,analogs).This one is expensive and ugly...but hey,baby steps first Controls should be detachable-cradle,split 360 controller in 2...done
There will be some problems because for the first time in history Win will run on two different CPU architectures--X86 and ARM but if market wants Skyrim on tablets also,Skyrim will be there Win 8 tablet without games = meh
"Razer stressed that the tablet is only a prototype at this stage, but hopes to have a tablet based on the Project Fiona concept available on the market in Q4 for the rather hefty cost of $1,000."
I think I'd rather put that money towards a Vita. And a PS4. And the next Xbox. All of which combined would probably wouldn't cost much more than that tablet.
For a grand, no it won't.
Um it's hardly portable is it? what you're going to crack that out on the bus or train-where the hell would you balance the tablet whilst you play on the controller.....? that's always been the thing i've never understood when people argue "yh well you can buy a controller to play on the tablet"; why would you use 2 items and lug them around when you can use one machine that's a quarter of the price at least assuming there's no price drop between now and the end of Q4- which there almost certainly will be....
edit: ok i had though those controllers were seperate in the picture just realised they are connected; however it's still far to big to be truly 'portable' I'd rather buy a high spec laptop for less money and take that- buy a bluetooth controller for it because that's still inconvineint to take out and play/carry around with you....
Looks like an interesting device, but also looks like it would not be comfortable to play. Kind of bulky or unwieldy.
Think I'll stick to my consoles and portables.
they should put an i5 in there instead to make it cheaper and it will have no difference in games