After the polarizing FF13, should FF7 be remade?

They wanted a full game, something that Square has said time and again that they had no plans for. And now, after the polarizing Final Fantasy XIII and the abysmal Final Fantasy XIV, fans are begging for a remake.

[Ranma1]

Yes it should. To make up for FF13 and FF14, if SE wants to get their fans confidence back. They have to make it.

But am worried they will mess it up :(

Anyone else agree?

[TenSteps]

I don't think a remake will bring fan's confidence in SE back. To gain confidence they have to show they can create the "new" without making it terrible.

Now I'm not saying they shouldn't remake 7, 8, 9 etc. In fact I think they should. Simply for SE to remember the fundamentals that made FF great.

[-Mika-]

No they shouldn't make it. Like all remakes from music,tvshows, movies and games. They are always hated by the fans and it because they always compare the remake to the original. Same will happen with ff7. Fans will cry and complain saying the original was better than the remake because of stupid reasons.

Then we will see articles on n4g with titles like "5 reasons why ff7 is better than the remake" or " Will ff15 restore fans confidence in square". It will just be an never ending cycle for square.

So overall no they should not remake the game because fans will mostly likely dislike it because of nostalgia.

[Snookies12]

They should make it, I agree with you TenSteps. I believe in remaking FF7, 8, 9, or even 6. It will take them back to their roots (if done right) and will possibly give them back some of what they've lost in these last few years.

Perhaps seeing their creation and going through it again, they will come to understand what was so great about it and follow suit with future titles in the franchise.

If nothing else, don't worry about going full HD with everything, just make better character models and backgrounds. Think Bionic Commando ReArmed. That's what they should go for.

[blumatt]

I'd rather see a FF8 remake myself. FF 8 was miles better than FF7 in my opinion. The love story was engrossing and the story compelling.

Until then I can't wait for FF Versus 13.

[RedDevils]

this look some hentai game with big breast LOL

[Imalwaysright]

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[Celeras]

All excellent points. Unfortunately, I only clicked this link to look at Tifa.

[The Killer]

its funny how they make female video game and anime characters these days having a breast like a milking cows.

poor females these days, they have a target image which they can never reach even with silicone operations.

this is all part of the international zionist scheme to pervert the youth.

[Razongunz]

ff14 was terrible indeed, ff13 was quite fun yes it was linear but i really liked the story. and i tought this was sorted..ff7 isnt gonna happen..it takes way to long to remake ff7 they should focus on getting go on and make new games..ff7 is made it was a big it..there is no need to make a remake out of that game.. it was on top in its time..now its time for a new ff7 and no i don't mean a remake.

[BakedGoods]

Interesting point. TAGGED.

[dark-hollow]

i seriously cant believe it!
ONE game (maybe two or three but ff13 is getting the most of the backlash) that the fans didnt like so much then its all fail for square enix!!
ffxiii-2 is getting a lot of praise lately.
actually, ff13 wasnt that bad either!

the major flaw with ff13 is that you have to work your way up till the game gets enjoyable.

most people played it for 5-10 hours then claim that it have bad story, gameplay mechanics but those two improve very much as you progress in the game.
or even worse! people hear the complaints of others and start believing it even without completing the game themselves!

after proximately 20 hours, the games becomes so great! the battle system is just one of the best in the whole franchise.

if only the game was this enjoyable from the start it would be on my top 5 ff sequels.

[Imalwaysright]

"after proximately 20 hours,..." Yeah... no -_-

[RedDead]

The game lasts 40 hours if you want to finish it and not do side battles(I would say quests but they aren't). "first 20 hours", how can you let a game away with that? I COULD FORGIVE EVEN 5 HOURS, BUT fu**iNG 20???

[pinkyxyz]

the reason why it fails is because you have to wait 20-25 hours just to enjoy the game! How is that not a major deal breaker when it comes to games in general?

[Ranma1]

Am annoyed that SE seems to be taking FFD into the action RPG direction.

But SE is wrong "Turn based RPGs made in Japan outsell their Action counterpart"

Source: http://n4g.com/news/915351/...

[Godmars290]

No. SE hasn't shown any real ability with HD consoles. If they do something with it, it should be a PSP/DS level game.

And even then I'd be worried about the quality.

[Ranma1]

Thats what i worry about also.

SE has shown time and time again, they are incapable of making a single great console game this gen.

If they remade it, am worried they will add the auto-battle feature of FF13, LOL !!

p.s in second post above, when i said FFD, i meant FF

[silkrevolver]

Nobody complained about the graphics of XIII, all complaints were leveled towards design, story, etc. They handled the HD side of the era brilliantly, they just faltered with the whole game aspect.

[Megaman_nerd]

HD needs more detail so towns and stuff take more work. FFXIII-2 now has towns but you can't enter to any of the buildings so they are more like mini dungeons with some useless NPC's. =/

Are you getting the image of the problems HD causes to lazy devs like Square? Here is Kitase explaining it himself: http://www.oxm.co.uk/36521/...

[Pozzle]

After the bland, generic mess that was Dirge of Cerberus, I'm not sure Square Enix are even capable of making a decent FFVII remake that stays true to the original game.

Was everyone who worked on DoC completely unfamiliar with EVERYTHING about Final Fantasy VII?! Where was the charm? The humor? The beautiful locations? The interesting characters? D:

[D3mons0ul]

Only if Nomura plans on leading the project. We already know Kitase has stabbed FF in the back and is no longer credible. Wada is dragging the entire company down with him in his push for westernization. Sakaguchi left to form another company.

Who else is left?

[iamtehpwn]

Kitase is part of what made FF so great. The person you mean to be blame is Toriyama, but not Kitase.

[tiffac008]

Toriyama is the reason I don't want SE to remake FFVII anymore because the project may end up in his hands and that would be the end of it. -_-

[D3mons0ul]

I wish that were true but I have to lay some of the blame on Kitase. He was the one who came out and said FFXIII-2 was inspired by western titles. Toriyama is more worthy of the blame and I really hope that Kitase was just the unfortunate messenger in this instance.

Wada is dragging everybody down with him. He should be in another business.

[iamtehpwn]

^
XIII had flaws, but people misinterpreted those flaws.
The inspiration they getting from western titles is the aspect of "Non-linearity". Linearity was the wrong criticism to make of FFXIII--Lack of Variety was the problem with FFXIII.
Even if XIII wasn't linear, it would still be a giant empty field of Monsters.

XIII lacked variety, there was nothing to do outside of combat, and even the combat lacked variety. Final Fantasy X was also incredibly linear but had plenty of variety in every aspect such as Blitzball, Towns, Battles, How you'd move along the sphere Grid, The Calm Lands, etc.

Out of all those airship sequences in the game, at least one of them should've playable.

People say "Linearity" as if it's a terrible thing no matter what. No, in fact, Linearity and Open World should never be equated with good and bad. Linearity has a specific Design purpose as does having an Open World. And with that said, Linearity done right is Final Fantasy X. Linearity done wrong is Final Fantasy XIII.

With choosing a more Linear design philosophy for example, you can set a specific pace and tone to whats going on. You know what the player will be experiencing at any given point. This allows you to perfectly place everything, so that the games pacing and story flows perfectly. That's what X did perfectly. XIII, instead was a series of tubes and hallways.

[jneul]

Final Fantasy X Also had a very well thought out storyline, and character development compared to XIII, they both was linear so I really want to know what SE's excuse is for the lack of a good storyline and nect to no character development, and I don't want to hear about this westernisation rubbish, westerners loved ff before XIII, now not so much!!
Edit: Anyone play on crisis core, that was the closest i got to being back in the ff7 world, tbh it was linear like FFX/ XIII, but the story was brilliant and i cried at the ending, zack is now my hero

[Knightofelemia]

The only way SquareEnix will play the FF7 remake card is if and this is me guessing. Is if FF13-2 bombs in North America and if FFVS13 which is a game I am waiting for happenes to bomb in Japan and in North America. Thats when SquareEnix will bring forward the FF7 remake trump card. They know there is a demmand for that game to be remaid fans want it and they know it will sell. They will produce the game and sell FF7 to recoup their losses. Quite honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they have FF7 half way finished and stored somewhere waiting to see the daylight.

[jthamind]

no, it shouldn't be remade. leave it as it is.

[-Gespenst-]

Jesus christ enough of these articles already. I think SE know by now how badly fans want this (myself not included btw) so I really don't think it needs any more publicity.

At this point we've said enough, they might decide to make it or they might not. Leave it be.

[HardCover]

Feel free to click some of the other dozens of articles here if this one doesn't appeal to you.

I mean, your comment has been posted just as much as the articles, so it's not like you're even practicing what you preach ;)

[-Gespenst-]

But I stopped actually reading them months and months ago. So what preaching is it exactly that I'm not practicing? I don't read every article to do with this that crops up, I just decided I was tired of seeing the topic come up on n4g so I commented on it.

Surely you must be sick of these articles? Another person laying out all the reasons they might make it and reasons they mightn't; all reaching the same unsatisfactory conclusion. Again, I think SE realize how popular this idea is, and it's definitely in their consciousness. I just wish these articles would give it a break, at least for a few months until we can add some other vague comment from a SE employee to our collection of inconclusive evidence that the game will be remade.

[HardCover]

I'm not bothered by the articles.

I think that's silly. These particular articles only show up a few times every other few months. I can't imagine being bothered by that, personally.

[ForTheFallen]

I think Ges's point is that he's annoyed these articles even exist at all; the subject has apparently been dealt with (it's over, everyone has their opinions) and is seemingly old news, yet it continues to be discussed.

Like Santorum's Presidential Campaign. Who is FOX kidding? lol

[HeavenlySnipes]

It wasn't that good. It was revolutionary, but there were better FF games made after (9, 10, 12). Unless they cheap out and make it an overhead 'open world' game, I doubt they'd even start. Do you know how big that game would have to be? All the animations and such that would have to be coded for? All the cutscenes that would have to be remade? All the things that would have to be re-rendered?

They weren't joking when they said it'd take YEARS. Frankly, even suggesting this is basically saying "We don't trust you to make a new game so just remake an older one, you know, when you used to be good" (Even though that is kinda true)

[Megaman_nerd]

play FFVII first and then talk crap. But please, play the game, you owe it to yourself if you're remotely interested in JRPGs. It is clear that you haven't even touched it if you have the face to say that FFX and specially XII are better! XD

[Hicken]

I've played every FF since V, and I think X and XII are better. Hell, I think VIII is better, too. Haven't beat V and VI yet, so I can't say. But, to me, VII is among my least favorite FFs.

Oh, look at that: someone with an opinion. Someone who doesn't subscribe to the "VII is the greatest JRPG of all time," simply because it's what everyone else says.

[NukaCola]

I like FF X, but it was the start of a linear limited FF future that we have come to known. There are so many memories of FF VII, the world was so alive and I think the 3 PS One FF titles were really the only ones with the immersive worlds and side quests over any other one. FFVII also had a variety of gameplay styles, quest objectives, and some of the best visuals and camera techniques on those environements. Yeah Yeah the characters looked like N64 guys in the world, but the bitmapping on the world itself was and is still to this day some of the best.

My issue with a remake isnt the visuals, it's the influence. Don't change anything, just remaster it in HD under a new engine. no need for full 3D camera control. Keep it all as it was. Add too if needed, but dont take away.

[-Gespenst-]

Which FF games are better than others is entirely subjective and a lot to do with nostalgia. A lot of younger folk can't fathom why older people love VII (Although some can and power to them)

I can't believe there are still people on the internet who don't understand the idea of "opinion"

[ForTheFallen]

^this

[Sithlord-Gamble]

I would love for Square to remake this, but I can understand why they wont.

But why not compromise and make a FF7-2? That way the fans kinda get what they want and Square doesn't risk ruining one of the best rpgs ever made!

BTW ... howabout a remake or sequel for FF6 & Chrono Trigger too!

[-Gespenst-]

Eh you know there is a sequel to Chrono Trigger right? Chrono Cross on the PSone. A sequel to that is what we want.

[Dark_king]

Actully Radical Dreamer's is the sequel to Crono trigger(Jap release only).An Crono Cross the sequel to that.I would love a Crono Cross sequel though.The Crono universe is great and has a lot of untapped potential.

[Booyah]

@Dark_king
Wasn't Radical Dreamer the prologue to Crono Cross ?

[Sithlord-Gamble]

Of course I am aware of Chrono Cross. Hence y I said REMAKE/sequel ... besides, Chrono Cross had nothing to do with the characters from Chrono Trigger. Im speaking of a sequel to THAT particular/story.

[Cyb3r]

Square-Enix have had a tendency to dissapoint I dont think they will ever remake FF7

[MrWiggle]

People wanted it remade before FF13 so yes....yes they should

I'm not a big fan of FF7, I think it's over rated...just my opinion

BUT...

I would like to see people get what they want, it's obvious Square know people want it but they know it would be too much hard work...."Oh theres towns and an open map which couldn't work with todays tec and it would take too long"....sorry but I think it could still work, theres always a way, it will take a long time but we could of had it by now if they started when fans first started asking for it

Anyway the real reason I want it done, like many others probably, is because the sooner a FF7 remake it done and realise how much money they can produce the quicker they'll get started on a FF8 remake

[Megaman_nerd]

of-course you think FFVII is overrated, I bet that you haven't even played it either. And if you played it then you didn't even played it enough to see the world-map.

[Imalwaysright]

I have the original copy of FF7 and imo the game is indeed overrated. FF9, FF10, FF6, FF12 (yes) and FF2 imo are better than FF7. Accept that other people have different opinions.

[Ace_Man_6]

If not, why not?

[helghast102]

Simply, no.
There'll always be people bitching.
WAAAHHH THIS REMAKE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING NEW
WAAAHHH THIS REMAKE IS TOO DIFFERENT
WAAAHHH I WANTED AN FF_ REMAKE
WAAAHHH IM A BABY

[BiggsnWedge]

I just want a nice modern game with FF7 type gameplay, I don't care if it's a remake or not. I mean the load times should be instant and fast into battle with current gen consoles and maybe they could add a triple triad game thats playable online that would be sweet..

But SE is too busy trying to make their "CoD killer" for North America..

haha.. yeah...

[Razongunz]

like the picture

[LordZ]

I just clicked for the picture.

[GamingTruth]

dont get still whats so bad about ff13 and thats going by any final fantasy standards comparing to it

[Fyflin]

They should wait until technology catches up with everyone's expectations. I personally don't want a remake unless it can resemble advent children. Imagine those visuals with the same story, set pieces and characters from the original FFVII.

[GamingTruth]

with the visuals ps3 is putting out in exclusives with each new one i think thats possible now

oh look a disagree on my first post thats how you ff13 haters and 12 haters have made your stone mark on these two games you bash the game for being so bad, and yet anyone else that says different you bash them and disagree with them on their difference in feeling concerning the matter, you type of people are just like call of duty haters

[Fyflin]

I can see where you're coming from, especially after looking at uncharted 2/3 but give advent children a watch on blu ray. They're a LONG way from that kind of fidelity, and definitely not on this hardware.

[GamingTruth]

hey fyflin, you know what im sure your right about that, i mean you would be but guess what, theres a chance that as maxed out as people think ps3 may be, that the ps3 hasnt been maxed out in the way that sony made it, i assure you if a cgi developer like oh i dont know AXIS which was supposed to do the original making of killzone 2 were to make games for ps3 you would be looking really stupid of how ps3 games can really look, the developers ps3 was meant to have have never developed for it and still we have yields like uncharted 3 and now the last of us

theres some stuff many people dont understand about sonys design of the ps3s architecture, oh yeah and going by specs i still say that there are no finalized ps3 specs the last recorded ps3 specs came from 2005 in october thats was almost a year before ps3s specs and designs were final, what else? the ps3s architecture works on a basis different than pcs and xbox 360 and wii, the design is made so that the cell and rsx are one hardware AND the cell in itself is capable of rendering, and a whole lot better than whats been shown, news tip its the reason why sony is not showing ps4 this year or even released the blueprints for the specs, in which when ps2 was out back in 2003 or 2004 sony had already released the ps3s blueprints and talk of the cell processor.

i wont even spend the time getting into letting you in on what the cell processor really is, you can be brainwashed by the common pc fans on the internet concerning ps3 but thats just not good planning my friend

[jimmywolf]

you said "don't get still whats so bad about ff13"

that why you got disagree, your entitled to your opinion an their entitled too their opinion to disagree. if you don't want the hate then why did you post on a game that get a lot hate

[GraveLord]

Who approved this blog?

[Rai]

I wouldn't trust square remaking FF7, if they wanted to remake it they better bring back the original staff and I wonder how they would bring sakaguchi back to the fold.

I'm not a big fan of remakes to begin with, I liked FF7 because of the memory I had when I was first playing but who's to say I'd get that feeling again from a remake?

[TheDivine]

No make new games. I dont mind handheld remakes, ds had ff3 and 4, hopefully the 3ds gets 5 and 6 but im not sure on 7-9. Maybe on a handheld like the 3ds (or vita but id prefer 3ds) where they could just add some shaders and textures like zelda oot 3d. I dont think it needs a console release and that would take a whole gen for SE anyways. Honestly the only reason people treat 7 like a perfect game is nostalgia. Its a great game but theres better games id rather have remade like xenogears, chrono trigger, ff6. Just make a new ff so good people forget about 7.

[PCE]

No. Make a new game on the roots of the older FF titles with modern twists. I am sick of companies like Square-Enix fixing what wasn't broken and then relying on remakes of entire old games to stay profitable. This is telling us Square-Enix cannot make good new games anymore. Move on and focus on improving your games, Square-Enix, your company and your games are turning to shit. Stop living in the glory days of FFIV. We've already played that game before. No need to remake that same game 5 times.

[ddelella]

They should put out the first 7 FF on a single DVD for all consoles. The first 6 are simple ports and the 7th was only 3 CDs in size. I would buy that for $40 no problem.

[ziggurcat]

no.

also, people put FFVII on too high of a pedestal. it's not *that good* of a game... sorry.

[jimmywolf]

mind posting few games around the ps one era that were "that good of game" that should be getting more hype?

[ziggurcat]

mind explaining why FFVII is "that good of a game"?

[CanadianTurtle]

I'm surprised at all the comments. Square Enix really has lost the trust of it's consumers. Serves them right.

I remember back in the day when they were filled with creativity and an ambition to become the innovators and successors of the JRPG industry. Now look what they've become.

Well, at least we still have Level 5.

[Fullmetalevolust]

Think of square as the master and the consumers as loyal dogs ( don't mean any offense by it, just simple analogy, maybe not even a good one). They have the bait, bacon aka FF7, and we want it really bad whenever we hear it we wag our tails. However, this master is a sadistic one, instead of giving us what we really want (bacon), we get those nasty dried up dog treats that not even cats (xbox owners, lol jk) would wanna chew on.
We will get our bacon the moment we stop wagging our tails and showing interest, because then, the master (Square) will be eager to please us just so we can continue on this sadistic relationship.

[HarryMasonHerpderp]

I would prefer a new great final fantasy than a remake.
Something better than VII or as good as.
i also prefer the medevil fantasy style than the futuristic one in 7 and 8. *cough cough* FFIX FTW!
=D

[Enigma_2099]

When they're hurting for cash and they need it quick, you'll get your remake.

[Smokeeye123]

Of course, but Square Enix is f***ing retarded and out of touch and instead of making games like a FF7 Remake or Kingdom Hearts 3 They will start development on Final Fantasy XIII-3

[jimmywolf]

your misunderstand FF XIII-3 already done their just wanting till E3 too announce it

[Vynzent]

Yes. They'd probably make FF13-3 before remaking the most EPIC game they've made.

Hell, they might as well sell the FF7 rights to a company with workers that probably understand FF7 far more than Square does anymore.

[specialguest]

Must... not....click link.... Just because of..... Boobs..... WTF??!? How? ....how did I get here?

[KrimsonKody]

Should FF7 be remade?"
-_-
Look @ Tifa'z tits...
YES!

[Buuhan1]

Nice attention/hit grabbing image, using an illustration from a Tifa hentai game, lol.

[TopDudeMan]

They should remake all the ones from 1-6 to make them modern. The 3D ones from 7 - 10 were the best. If they can make them to that standard, then good show to SE, But I do don't think they can.

[Starbucks_Fan]

Those boobs are HUGE

[NeXXXuS]

Just remake Final Fantasy VI. That was the most amazing one by far.

[DarkSymbiote]

No need need for a damn remake. Sheesh. I'd like a proper sequel in the future.

[The Rock Bottom]

NO! SE needs to get Final Fantasy versus out. Its the game we all want. But some how...I have a feeling they will botch its launch. I just know it. It'll either get (I love all consoles but be honest) nerfed and go muliplate or SE will turn it into a FPS. LOL!

[Hyperbomb69]

Yes, yes it should and as a PS3 exclusive otherwise theyre gonna mess it up like they did with FF13.

[mindedone]

MUST...RESIST...URGE...TO...CL ICK...ON...BOOBS...

[Tanir]

Versus will fix squares name, though thats only cuz Nomura is a beast at making games. aaaand actually Type 0 is amazing but everyone disregards that

[falconm80]

Before I proceed, let me just remind you about the definition of remaking an old game. The remaking process of an old game mainly rely on improving the graphical representation of the game and updating them up to current standards. Other than that, the story will remain the same and creativity involvement of the remaker is almost close to nothing.

A remake of FFVII will make some heads roll in Square Enix. Just imagine how a remake of an old game will outsell all the garbage Square Enix have been doing since FF10 combined.
What the current bosses at Square Enix are trying to show to their superiors is that they are able to make better games and that what they are making sells well and when their superiors question them about the decline in sales compared to previous years, they will just say that the market for such genres is dying.

This is why Square Enix will never do a remake of a game that has been made by Square Soft or Square, except for 8bit/16bit games.
This is why Square Enix always keep doing FF7 titles that are not the remake of the original game, because the original game didn't involve Square Enix broken creativity.

This is why Square Enix is thinking about doing a remake of FFX which is the best they have ever done, but no where near the best of the series.

A successful remake of FF7 or FF8 will show the world that Square Enix are terrible clowns.

[iMpuTeD]

idk but gosh damn tifa is amazing!!!

[danthebios]

I played ff7 one night,and i was so into the game and was shock when glancing at the clock it was already 6am in the morning haha,sweet memories :).FF7 remake hmmmm,for me the ff advent children movie was enough for me but if they do a remake only three words to say 'just bring it' :)

[Duoma]

i think the question should be:
after spitting in the face of final fantsy fans over the years should anyone care that they are still making games?

[BABY-JEDI]

The real issue for SE is the scale of FF7 & the costing required to create the quality required for this/next gen. They should remake FF7 & to keep up the quality make it in 2 or 3 installments (as I don't think they could afford to do it any other way )

[whatthe]

where can you get that tifa picture, but wallpaper size?

[Run_bare]

Finish Versus 13 and Don't Screw Up FF 10 remake, then maybe they can consider FF 7. BUT not before that. I am starting to get annoy with square if they even consider it.

[gigreen]

Yes, it's unplayable for me. It aged so horribly that it desperately needs a remake.

[Sheikah]

Do they *hate* money, or what?!

[SnowBlu]

well alot of fans really want it and it should get their trust back

its like what rockstar did with gta v making it similar to san andreas

[Kos-Mos]

If Tifa looks something like that: Hell yeah!

[upallnightgamer]

YES! Absolutely, indubitably, and unequivocally YES!

[insomnium2]

Please do make a FF7 remake and make Tifa as hot as she is in that picture.

[rohail88]

or dont make it, these articles suck!

[DW74]

I have *always* had mixed feelings about it. But as I age (37 now) I am finding that I want a remake less and less. Yes, it's hard to play the original with it's blocky, early-3D graphics and midi music, but it still has the heart it always did for me.

But let's look at the other RPG from 97 that means a lot to me: Wild Arms. These 2 games got me into RPG's in the first place. Some years ago, I accidentally ran across some article that said that Wild Arms had in fact, been remade, and was called Alter Code: F. I had never heard it was even coming out. I of course went right out and found it used the next day.

It's so similar to the original, with remixed music, full PS2 graphics and the same art style and all. Exactly what a lot of fans want for FFVII. But for some reason, I still to this day have not finished Alter Code: F. I don't really know why, but it just didn't feel as good or as fun as the original.

So yeah, I am wary of a FFVII remake. A lot.

[bobdog626]

unless you don't like Money i would say Yes .I think its Long overdue.

[bladednuisance]

I think they should simply redo the graphics, & add voice overs, leave everything else the same, release it on ps vita, then watch the vita sales sky rocket, just my opinion