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Red 5 explains why Steam isn’t right for Firefall

Player Attack: Following the uber-successful showing of Firefall at PAX Prime, developer Red 5 was approached by Valve, who expressed an interest in hosting the MMO through digital distribution system Steam.

Mark Kern, CEO of Red 5, explains that – while he’d “love to find a way” for the project to work, he had to decline the offer.

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NYC_Gamer4918d ago (Edited 4918d ago )

some type of deal needs to be reached.both parties could benefit in the end.

ATi_Elite4918d ago

1. I'm getting Firefall no matter what cause the game looks brilliant!

2. I agree with Marc Kern on some things that he said but i still think Steam is the way to go when your not an uber super established publisher/Developer.

3. APB Reloaded is free to play.....the game came back from the GRAVE and is now on Steam and so far is doing well.

4. DC Universe is Free 2 Play and on Steam as well and so far no bad news from it or from Crimecraft and other F2P titles on Steam.

5. If APB Reloaded with all it's Debt, Double Dev time, and financial ruin can turn a profit on Steam then I'm positive Firefall and all it's glory most surely can.

6. Marc's 60% cost comment was wrong cause Steam would be Customer Service and bandwidth so all Red 5 would have to worry about is cashing profit checks and making new content.

Companies have the right to not use Steam and lots of times it works out great but Steam is guaranteed gold.....for example.

CD Projekt Red own Good Ole Games.com (GOG.com).
GOG.com sold the DRM free version of The Witcher 2 (Developed by CD Projekt Red)
Steam sold more copies of TW2 than GOG.com some where to the tune of a 4 to 1 ratio and climbing.
sure CDPRed got 100% profit from all GOG.com sales but they made more money from Steam and gained a larger audience.

Steam....it just works!!

Saryk4918d ago

A big chunk of profit? From what I read by other developers, it never seemed to be that big of a chunk. I'd like to know how much of a percentage............

STK0264918d ago

A fair argument; although I do hope they reach an agreement, as having Firefall on Steam would likely increase its player base, as Steam seems like a great place to show off your game to PC gamers.

mokopa4918d ago (Edited 4918d ago )

Steam sucks. Us in the developing world hate it like the devil. Foraging 3G data for a month after buying the game is heatbreaking. Why oh why does steam not give option to play without updating. Origin does. GFWL is good for us.

LettingGo4918d ago

Maybe you can help us all on this. How much of a percentage does Steam take? And what do you mean by the 3G thing? I'm just trying to understand this a little better. Please and thank you.

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89 million Steam account details allegedly leaked, but no one seems to know how

A LinkedIn post from Underdark AI made the discovery, stating that datasets are being sold for over $5,000 on a known black market forum.

Cockney31d ago

Biggest hack in gaming history if true

Christopher31d ago

No personal details, mostly account names, no passwords. Likely would need other account leaks to hope that someone reuses a password with a similar account name on another already leaked service. While a lot of users, the data is useless. Kind of notably by the $5k request for the data.

FinalFantasyFanatic29d ago

Plus, if you have 2FA enabled, then you were at zero risk anyway, from what I've read, Steam isn't even recommending password changes as it's apparently unnecessary.

VariantAEC25d ago

@Christopher
Where are you getting that from?
The linked article above says, "The seller claims this is a “fresh” leak and says it includes usernames, passwords, two-factor SMS logs, message contents, metadata, delivery status, and other sensitive details." Which sure sounds like they might have a lot of other information. If this leak is legitimate I better stop hearing people falsely say PSN is the worst secured digital storefront (even though that hasn't been true for a very long time with far larger data breaches since 2011 all over the world including the Equifax breach which was several times larger).

VariantAEC25d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic
That seems true only if you use Steam Guard. If you opted for T2A via SMS the article suggests it's time to make the switch to Steam Guard and of course change your password.

Christopher25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

From the credit URL: https://x.com/MellowOnline1...

The article doesn't do a good job of going into the updated detail, they just mention part of it.

Just because the seller claims something, doesn't make it true. If it truly contained that data, it would be worth way more than just $5k. SMS systems don't rely on getting passwords for accounts they're sending an SMS to, just the username, phone number, and timestamp info.

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Profchaos30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

You don't remember the psn hack I take it

Cockney29d ago

I do remember it being 77 million, thats why I made my comment

BlueDaBaDee30d ago

Update:
"Valve has now confirmed that “this was NOT a breach of Steam systems” and users do not need to change their passwords as a result. However, it continues to recommend that you set up the Steam Mobile authenticator for extra security."

https://store.steampowered....

Fishy Fingers30d ago

Shame. I liked the idea someone paid 5 grand just for my silly steam name.

DivineHand12530d ago

The government needs a taskforce with serious fundung that can opporate across borders to go after cyber criminals.

It is getting out of hand and it is the regular citizens of the world that suffer the consequences of these hacks and breaches.

My fear is that if left unchecked, state sponsored hackers from corrupt or governents under sections may use this as a method of raising revenue at the expense of everyone else.

Fishy Fingers30d ago

Bro teeing up a Mission Impossible movie.

ZeekQuattro30d ago

Not in this administration. If anything hes been dissolving existing task forces meant to protect consumers.

Amplitude30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Why? They’d just use the funding to funnel hundred of millions of dollars into fake NGOs that then funnel it into democrat pockets while doing zero cyber criminal defence work.

Then if anybody tried to defund them it’d be a whole thing with the mainstream media claiming that there will be endless cyber attacks. NGOs would then fund protest groups to attack anybody that supports defunding the government’s cyber attack defence branch and then it would turn out it was also being used to stabilize or destabilize governments in other countries and overthrow elections to benefit America. Which is fine until they start using it on us again.

Let’s just not. Private companies who know what they’re doing (Valve) can deal with it

RIP USAID. God bless

Profchaos30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

It's not a may use this not we know state sponsored attacks do this already.

It's a global problem you couldn't have one government playing world police it would require joint collaboration with foreign governments and the problem is many laws have not kept pace with advancement of technology.

even then it's hard to say with certainty if an attack was a state sponsored attacks or a cybercriminal group operating outside of governments

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pwnmaster300030d ago

remember when certain groups were saying PC gamers don’t want other subscriptions because it was not safe and steam was the spot lol.

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badz14930d ago

it's time to riot, right, pc gamers??

pwnmaster300030d ago

Be careful, PC gamers are the most touchy out of the gamers lol

staticall30d ago

@badz149
@pwnmaster3000
Have you guys actually read what was «leaked»? It was SMS messages from 3rd party provider (not from Steam itself) with one-time 2FA codes (that are active for 15 minutes). No Steam account details, access to an account or any of that jazz.

Let me quote official Steam response:
«The leak consisted of older text messages that included one-time codes that were only valid for 15-minute time frames and the phone numbers they were sent to. The leaked data did not associate the phone numbers with a Steam account, password information, payment information or other personal data. Old text messages cannot be used to breach the security of your Steam account, and whenever a code is used to change your Steam email or password using SMS, you will receive a confirmation via email and/or Steam secure messages.»
Source: https://store.steampowered....

The only bad thing about this is the phone numbers. But while that sucks, attacker doesn't know which Steam account this phone number belongs to. IMO, the only thing people should be rioting about is how unprotected the SMS are and the 3rd party service that was used by Steam. I'm all for punishing people who screwed up and/or lacked the security. But this is not it.

FinalFantasyFanatic29d ago

Why riot? They have nothing of value, can't even steal an account with the details they have, they would have to attempt a brute force attack, you can already do that with a Steam user's account name (or any account on any site) if you really wanted to spend the time and processing power to do it.

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Creature Collector Fest hits Steam with some epic discounts

The Creature Collector Fest event has come to steam until May 19. Here are some epic discounted games to scratch the critter gathering itch.

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Unmourned is a new horror title made by 2 brothers from Greece

Codebros Studio comes from Thessaloniki Greece and presents us with their new horror game Unmourned which you can check out now on Steam.

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