Mark Rein Interview: Why Is Unreal Tournament 3 Slower on PlayStation 3?

SPOnG caught up with Epic's outspoken bossman, Mark Rein recently for a full and frank chat about the latest Epic, err, epic - Unreal Tournament 3 out now on PC and on PlayStation 3 (in December for the US, in January for Europe) and on Xbox 360 (in, gods knows when).

Not one to hold back on his forthright opinions, Rein is that rarest of creatures to be found in the world of game development – a high profile studio boss that is not afraid to call a spade a spade. When asked why the console version of UT3 was noticeably slower than the PC version, Rein told us.

[HarryEtTubMan]

cool

Icewake serisouly shut up you're a loser and have no clue what you're talking about. You must be 16. This game runs better than Gears did on the 360 haha and this is only the first Unreal Engine version made by Epic on the PS3... YOU A IDIOT IF THE CELL WAS FOR BLU RAY EVERY BLU RAY PLAYER HAVE THE CELL BUT NONE DO BUT THE PS3.... PWNED U FVCKING DOUCHE BAD. Stop whining because you jealous u wont be getting this game for a year or more. Loser.

[ruibing]

I'm sorry but I think everyone has mistaken taken "slower" to mean reduced frame rate compared to the PC. It simply runs slower for everyone to compromise for a FPS on a console for those without mouse/keyboard (360 owners should appreciate this fact).

For those who still don't understand, then recall when you were playing Max Payne, Stranglehold, or Prince of Persia. When you slowed downed time, the framerate did not drop, only how fast everyone moves. What is so hard to understand about all this?

[Wii60_FTW]

lmao @ icefake's gamerscore

But anyway, I played the UT3 demo on PC. was crap. Gears is lightyears better. end of story.

[wil4hire]

"But you play Halo on console and you find that it’s slower too, right…they have to be slower, because your fingers are just not as precise as your whole arm, right? To me the movement and speed as a console gamer is just right.”"

If you ever played Unreal Tornament you will notice a "SPEED" setting for gameplay. Its the RUnspeed. You can turn it up or down.. this has nothing to do with performance. It has everything to do with using a controller versus a Mouse and Keyboard.

Xbots Lead by BlOODMASK, You would know this if you ever decided to read anything, outside of waiting for your RRODbox.

The PS3 version of UT3 will be superior to the 360 as well, due to the open network.

Reviewers all agree that Uncharted is the new graphics king. And guess what? Its a PS3 exclusive. It owns Gears, Halo, and definitely Mass Effect.

DOn't be sour, I'm sure Too HUman will be bett.... lol god I cant even type that without laughing so hysterically my whole body shakes... Well you still have Gears.. to replay..

So this Xmas PS3 has:

Uncharted
COd4
Ratchet
UT3.
GT5 Prologue

and the 360 has

Halo.
Mass Effect.
COD4

Thats a great lineup for the holidays.

and just so you bots know

Uncharted = AAA

http://www.gamerankings.com...

edit:

Wow Boink really?!?!? So thats the new "ps3 definition" of AAA? Man its so hard to follow you Xbots.. first you say Scores that are 90+ = AAA. Then when the PS3 got those, it became "NO NO NO, the AVERAGE SCORE!" Now we have that...

so it now changes to "NO NO NO, Its the SALES!!!" What are we on the board of Sony? Do we get 30,000 dollar bonuses for sales? No.

AAA means what it means for films. Its the REVIEW of the product. However, feel free to change your "AAA" definition to sales. If thats what makes you sleep better at night.

By your logic "No COUntry FOr Old Men" isn't worth its 97% Rotten Tomato review because it hasn't sold millions yet? This is the stupidest knee jerk response I've ever heard to ps3 AAA news.

You do understand that the XbotCamp keeps changing this correct?

[Hugh Hefner]

Why did you list CoD 4 for the PS3 but not for the 360???

Edit: nvm, you did now

[Boink]

don't get me wron, it's a great game. I don't think quite has the AAA status like halo, mario, GTA, MGS, etc...

AAA status has to = sales, hype, midnight launches etc...not just a great review. uncharted is really only expected to sell around 1 million units. which is not even on the radar on the amount of sales those other games have.

uncharted got great reviews, but just like mass effect, I don't consider them to be AAA until they get the sales to prove it, and that means millions of units sold.

[Violater]

So Hype, Sales & Midnight launch = AAA title?
Who cares about quality and overall enjoyment right?
This stupid system war has nothing to do with that.
Never have I heard you guys talk about how much fun you have "playing"
the actual games.
Its always the same crap.
you kids really need to stop drinking your own piss
give up gaming
and go read a book

[PlayStation360]

I kinda agree with what you saying bro... well, with out all the insults :P What happened to the good ol' days when a gamer bought games to waste some extra time playing and having fun? Now it's all about review scores, Triple A's, how much it sold, hell, even which console it's on. My motto, to hell with all that BS. If you want to play a certain game, here's an idea, play it.

If I'd listen to half of what people thought about a game, I could never play video games. PS3 guys hate every 360 game, 360 dudes hate every PS3 game, everyone hates wii games, wii fans hate everything... ok, I may have exaggerated a tad. But ya'll get what I'm saying. :)

[PimpHandHappy]

if you take the bubbles from the trolls they will fade away and die

Half the time the trolls dont even read the article but all they do is read the title and start spewing sh!t

take bubbles and if they are on your ignore just look at what they say and if its negative fanboy junk take that bubble

[NanoGeekTech]

I heard that was a pretty damn good movie...I will be seeing it this weekend.......................

P.S.. Everyone will soon appericate the PS3 and the fact it is a open system. That will be the norm for the next-next gen of gaming.. Lets check back at the many forums that bash PS3 at the end of next year and better yet end of 2009.

PS3 id: ProPaPerPusher
360 id: KMJFNIGUY

[Xbox is the BEST]

SDF in full swing.

[squallsoft]

Did u even read the article. it acctually is POSITIVE PS3 news.

lol

ur always there for a laugh, thanks man.

[Xbox is the BEST]

I read it. But the fact that name calling by the Sony fans shows everyone that they worship Sony.

[lodossrage]

So by your knowledge, that would mean xbots WORSHIP 360.

So what's your point?

[squallsoft]

I worship Sony, about as much as you worshio Microsoft. the differencr between me and you though is, i dont troll Positive articles pertaining to the 360...

[Mr_Kuwabara]

"But the fact that name calling by the Sony fans shows everyone that they worship Sony."

Look at your name tag, then comment..

[Xbox is the BEST]

I have a name that says PS#3 Sucks or RROD? Xbox is the Best because it has killer games. Can't really say that about the PS#3 can you.

[gamesblow]

Ice is so funny... Such a little S*IT DIPPER... Atleast xbox 360 was built for gaming, huh? Well, if it's always broke down, how can you game? not a very practical "Gaming" rig, if you ask me. you incandescent CRICKET D*CK!

[wil4hire]

http://www.gamerankings.com... according to the XBots Bible.

edit@

Ice.. are you a complete moron? They round up. 89.6 see the .6 makes it a 90%. Thats why the site says 90% when you click on the game.

Why dont you actually read the site and how they calculate it. Or just try math once. They round up all the games.

However, since you are an Xbot.. even you will argue with the huge 90% on the screen. LOL.. sad sad.

They are adding the other 9's.

AAA Confirmed.

[gamesblow]

Dude, that's a shame... only 33 reviews were tabulated. I have 14 9 + reviews right now saved on a file and none of them are on there. What a joke. It's a shame R&C has a better scoring ratio than Uncharted even and it's still 89%... Them sites are broken and biased. All there is to it. Litterally 24 reviews for uncharted in total are still out and not accounted for. 14 of which are 9 +

[iceice123]

http://www.gamerankings.com...

89.6 I REPEAT 89.6, this is not AAA. You fail once again lemming.

[Violater]

ICEWAKE = CYBERCENTINEL

[The Wood]

really sad. ( I know lemming is a common word ) but that style of trolling seems familiar. No companionship = needing to talk sh*t just to get a response. Cure = come out of the basement, pull out modem cable and go to a place where real people reside (library, college, uni, work even). Try some eye to eye contact and your halfway to becoming a sociable person who people don't loath

There are people like this on the sony side so we shouldn't throw too many stones. Lets try and get our house in order and improve the quality of this site by saying 'NO 2 TROLLS', lol

(mayweather points victory)

[squallsoft]

I guess no one really read this full article, considering that it is POSITIVE news for the PS3.

hehehe

Xbox fans are a funny lot, arent they?

[sak500]

Last year's mid range vga cards beat the consoles gpus. So no game on console can beat a pc with the mid range card and a 2.6+ Ghz cpu. But when comparing the cost then value for money is where consoles excel. Well atleast 360 and the 40GB PS3. So no point in comparing a PC game to console, unless its pacman or tetris.

[SabreMan]

VGA card what are you talking about it's either PCI Express or AGP for pc gamers and AGP is all but defunct now.
VGA is a video signal/cable not a video card

[athlon770]

VGA = Video Graphics Adapter

[crazy25000]

this article is praising the ps3 and sony, yet they try to twist the whole thing....

=) made my day

[Thugbot187]

Think this article should have been titled why console FPS are slower than those on the PC.

[Charlie2688]

I think the REAL question that should been asked after that was:..BUT if you use the Mouse and keyboard configuration? if the games speed was accommodated to the proficiency of the use of the gamepad (SIXAXIS/Dualshock 3) then if you use M&K you will be actually jumping over that balance of game speed vs gamepad and you could become what? a frag God? (compared to the gamepad people) how is this balanced?

[squallsoft]

people just need to accept the fact that FPS controlls are beeter suited for a M&K anyday. gamepads just cant hold up to the wasd config

[Myth]

It has be slower on consoles fools. Using a mouse vs user a controller, targeting would be a nightmare, they made it slower for that reason alone. Could they have made it run just as fast? Yes. But they didn't because it would make targeting impossible.

[Myth]

Stop responding to ICEWAKES comments. That's what he lives for. Your just giving him what he wants.

[visage]

It is sad that they removed the PC/PS3 crossplay. Hopefully they do put it in at a later date though =/

[Maddens Raiders]

Rein and Yamauchi. That's why these guys sell an >ASSLOAD< of games.

P.S. - icewake, thanks for reminding me why I put you on ignore in the first place. Why did I click "show"? *sigh*

[Marceles]

lol...yeah i had to see why so many people were yelling at him too, big mistake on my part.

[PimpHandHappy]

take the bubbles from the Trolls

also if u have trolls on your ignore take a look at what they say and take a bubble if u can

DO IT

[kornbeaner]

FPS shooters have to be slower on the console. The precision is just not there with the dual analog sticks. Play CoD 4 and set the sensativity to the highest setting and then try to play online with that setting, you'll be chucking that controller to the ground by the 5th frag. FPS,MMO and RTS will alway reign supreme with a keyboard and Mouse all other genres are better on console.

[lodossrage]

Did any xbox owners actually READ the article? If some of you people actually READ it, you'd know the game will be slowed down for the 360 as well.

[Armyless]

There was another hidden little gem in that article the Xbox fans missed (hint: Has to do with mods going to Live)

[i Shank u]

it has to be slower on consoles......twitchy fast gameplay works much better with a mouse/keyboard then a controller, on a controller youd be flakcannoning yourself in the face all over the place if it wasnt slower......and all you xbot/ps3dildos can go suck it *__*

EDIT @ below : lol , the site doesnt let me spell out the 4 letter word i wanted....is sh!t more acceptable to you? i love all peoples and didnt say anything about religion, calm down , why so easily offended?

Double Edit: hey butt-tard , did you notice i used a euphemism for sh_t and didnt say crap about religion? didnt know the hippie police were around. only low thing i see is you trying to act like the P.C. patrol

[crazy25000]

Why bring religion into this? Shi'ite? You really going that low?

[TheTruth89]

@Ice
Lol, just... lol

[Xbox is the BEST]

slower on consoles but the 360 version will be smoother and faster. 60FPS 360 version. 30 FPS PS#3 version.
Mr. Rein said that and it was posted on N4G awhile back.
Edit : Remember Sony fans that the Unreal engine had to be optimise by Sony inorder for it to run properly on the PS#3. 360 has no problem running the Unreal engine. UT3 360 version probably won't have mods but it will look and run better on the 360. Can't wait for the comparisons.

[crazy25000]

dude can you give me the link to that....im just surprised to hear that, i thought it would be 60fps on ps3 :/

[i Shank u]

i think that's his butt cheeks talkin, and you dont want to hear what comes out of them next.....

[lodossrage]

Just curious

Edit: LMAO at the random f@g going down the line disagreeing

[Blademask]

I never really participate in this site.. but this just irritated me beyond everything I know.

Mark Reign NEVER said that. You guys can feel free to seek out all of his pro ps3 comments, and why its superior due to the open community.

GOOGLE IT.

DOn't listen to some guy with "XBOX" in his name. Seriously... 60fps? The 360 couldn't even run Mass Effect at 60fps. And dont get me started on the texture pop in.

[lodossrage]

That's why I wanted to see his "proof" lol

And yeah, for awhile I was like you. Not participating and just watching. And yes, it is irritating when people just start making up crap.

And the fact that the xbot posted what he did WITHOUT proof is a clear example that his/her statement is false.

[crazy25000]

it was BS.....unless he shows proof, its all BS

[Funky Town_TX]

UT is played out. If you played it on PC before then you are missing nothing. This game will fail on the PS3. I see about 100k copies being sold on PS3. 50K on the the 360. I will not pay $60 for this junk.

[Anything but Cute]

We all know that.

[Muppetmeat]

Hey, he's being honest about Microsoft. They really aren't against user generated content. They're just against fair business practices, the spirit of capitalist competition, and entrepreneurship. Oh yeah, they're also against a world that isn't controlled by them.

And solid, stable operating systems... they're against those too.

[sak500]

I thought UT3 supported Key/mouse combo on PS3 then why is it slower?

[visage]

probably because not everyone will have a mouse/keyboard? there must be someone that doesn't have one.

[mithril]

the network UT3 game can be stated controller only, mouse/keyboard only or mixed. It's more easy to program one speed.

[beoulve]

I can't see some people didn't read this article... at least 20 of them.

[kunark]

idk i never seen any post about fps... and btw when it comes out on the 360 its gonna sell like crap cause it will be trying to sell along the side of gears of war2 what would you pick? me id grab gow2 over ut3 but thats just me.

[Anything but Cute]

Nobody is developing for it. Why would a gamer buy a PS3? All the games are lead on 360.

PS3 has no chance of winning the console battle. Sorry.

[cellypower]

Are you serious? Look at Cod4!!!! Ps3 needs be lead platform in the future. My opinion is the 360 is holding things back because of its limitations.

[Topshelfcheese]

Anything but Smart, should be your name.

There are numerous games now that are lead on PS3(Burnout Paradise) and others that are co-developed(CoD4).

Also how do all you ignore the fact that, 360 has been selling for a whole year longer, if they released on the same date, and the difference in sales was as it is now, than yes, I would agree, but your blind fanboyism only makes you look ignorant. How about you go read a book, instead of playing games, since you obviously need to exercise that small brain of yours.

*Also don't talk trash until you get one system that sells over 100million consoles, Sony has done it twice now, and your two combined are around 45million, its all in the numbers.

[kunark]

i am getting ut3 already paid for it just hope it has like 4player split sreen for me and my roomates if not they can but there own and play online with me! this was relly good thing to read about positive news for ps3 owners the heading is floped around

[esemce]

He made an excuse basically, the console version runs at a poor 30fps and the texture are quite low also. COD4 runs at 60fps and theres no problems in controlling the aiming online.

Its just a technical issue with epic if they could of got it running at 60fps they would have done.

BTW the X360 version of Gears of war also runs at 30fps, while the PC version is only limited by your hardware, a modern PC can run it at 60+ fps no problem.

[kevin1122]

you seriously need to re-read the article and go over the comments. He is talking about gamespeed, not frames per second.

[Gamefan12]

Seriously just stop listening to the xbots . They are just being idiots and saying their crap to get you guys mad. They want you to respond, they get something out of it. Just ignore them, they know they are being stupid.

[i Shank u]

Xbots are trying to get people MADE? they aren't part of MTV you know.........

[Salvadore]

Isn't this obvious?

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

explain.

[Salvadore]

"...they have to be slower, because your fingers are just not as precise as your whole arm, right?"

Are you happy?

[beoulve]

Yes we should rejoice by giving bubble to both of you.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

yes, i am.

are YOU? LOL.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

thanks.

[esemce]

Hes just making excuses, does not want to admit that the PS3 version is piss poor, 30fps is NOT how you play UT. Lets be honest no matter how powerful the cpus/gps of these system are the PS3 and Xbox360 are let down by the lack of system RAM and its a real shame.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

not a mouse and keyboard.

consoles shooter IMO can`t be too too fast like UT.

i`m glad it`s a bit slower.

[Bladestar]

I love when developers admit when one version is inferior compared to the other... Even as a PC gamer there are certain features one can look forward on the xbox 360 version like achivements, game invites, etc... but why would anyone buy the PS3 version over the PC?
And don't say user created content.. since in order for you to create your own content you still need to buy the PC version to create the mods... and if you have the PC version why the hell would you play or even own the PS3 version? PS3 version have nothing better than the PC version.. and as we learned now... the PC version is better...
Do yourself a favor and buy the PC version since the PS3 version is just a dumb down version with nothing that the PC version does not have.

[i Shank u]

.....unless you have a ps3. then you should get it for ps3

[DarkSniper]

Exclusive to the PLAYSTATION 3© is user created content on Unreal Tournament III. Darksniper can speak for the consensus and boldly state that most gamers who own a PLAYSTATION 3© console, do not own a PC that is capable of running an award winning, high profile game such as Unreal Tournament III.

Mark Rein has stated that achievements will be properly placed once the highly anticipated online social hub "Home" is released.

Once again, Microsoft has shafted consumers by not allowing an open source network. User created content will never reach the XBOX 360 version of this game, disrespectfully. Mouse and keyboard support is something that is shunned upon in the XBOX 360 community even with the irony of it being nothing more than an FPS console.

Achievements maybe the only advantage Dark Sniper sees in buying the 360 version of this game. However, by the time this game is released, achievements will have been released on the Playstation platform as well.

This speaks as a lose/lose situation for Xbox owners once again.

$niper

[Peekay]

god - how about its somes out SIX months before the 360 version.

By the time UT3 comes out on the 360 - i'll be too busy play KILLZONE2
mmwwwuaaahahhhh!!!!

[ErcsYou]

1...what about the people who run MAC osx?
2...what about the people who run a older PC with a 128 mb video card ( or smaller )
3...what about the PC gamers who are practicing right now and plan to buy the PS3 version just so they can kick the living sh!t out of a bunch of noobs

I for one never really liked fps until this generation of gaming consoles and i have NEVER played a UT game. When i first saw the video's of UT3 and noticed how fast it was it scarred the sh!t out of me... im actually happy that its a little slower

P.S. didn't you pull a giant temper tantrum about a month ago about your bubbles??? i thought you said you were never coming back??? will your attitude change when you finally own a ps3?

[Italianstallion]

As much as i enjoyed Unreal tournament 2004 on the pc, I could only play one or two hours at a time before discomfort of motion sickness would overtake the twitch gameplay fun of the game. I know that it seems like a bad thing to alot of people, but for me personally, I am even more interested in picking this up for the ps3 instead of pc due to hopefully getting less motion sickness from things moving a bit slower.

[kornbeaner]

would anyone bother getting this for the 360. Mark Reins and Epic have said that Live does not provide them with the online community they like when it come to add-on content for their games. Gears of War was suppose to have many more map packs for Download but guess what, Epic held back cause MS was MAKING them charge for DLC that Epic wanted to release for FREE! PSN might not be great but for a PC centric Developer like Epic who loves to give the end user more bang for their buck its a lot more open and free then LIVE. Yeah PS3 owners will have to depend on PC modders to get their Mod fix but at least that is an option. And just like Gears of War, I wouldn't be surprised if the End user on the 360 has to pay for maps and mods that PC and PS3 users will get for FREE!!

You pay $50 a year to be watched like a hawk and hear annoying ass little kids talk smack. While PS3 users might still have that annoying ass person but at least it's not costing me $50 a year.

[PimpHandHappy]

the bubble system is there to allow ppl to talk and share the mind

Trolls do not deserve this right

So please search ur ignore list and look at what these trolls are saying

take that bubble if u find it to be hatefull fanboy sh!t

b4 we know it this site will be all good thanks to the bubble system

btw its funny Icewake has a gamer score of 1100. Dont u get 2000 grand for most games....

anyway

REMEMBER PPL

Bubbles destroy TROLLS

[jlytle1234]

"Do yourself a favor and buy the PC version since the PS3 version is just a dumb down version with nothing that the PC version does not have."
thats pretty funny considering all the big exclusives on xbox go to the pc. gears,halo, and bio shock. so according to his statement you should own a ps3 for its exclusives and a pc for the 360 exclusives.
and if the ps3 version is dumbed down, what is the 360 version. its going to be the same speed as the ps3. you have no keyboard support. you have no web browser to get mods. and if you get mods its not going to be of the selection that ps3 and pc have.
dont you have school today?

[The Wood]

my plasma doesn't have a pc input but it does have hdmi. my pc cant run the game with high detail level (tried demo) but my ps3 can. I don't want to upgrade my pc right about now but the only upgrade im gunna have to do on my ps3 is get a dualshock3 IF /i don't want to use the bluetooth mouse n keyboard I already own. 3 Simple reasons for me to get the ps3 version over the pc version. Will they be enough for you? I doubt it

[Synex]

I thought the gameplay was slower to work with the ps3 controller, actually I know it is.

[mccomber]

but I realized it would be so much more telling to see who actually reads the article by leaving it the way it is. I swear that some people here just pound their fists into their keyboards without reading more than the headline when they make comments.

[i Shank u]

While "Why is Unreal Tournament 3 Slower on Consoles?" might have been more accurate, im glad you didnt try to police the flametards. good job keeping it as is, there would be flame no matter what the title was. ex. "Mark Rein Orders Russian Brides on PS3!"

flame would be = "yea but her ass doesnt accept my blu rays WTF!?ps3watestation sux"

[C_SoL]

bubble for you....

[THE_JUDGE]

its quite annoying when your just trying out a new game to be killed a million times over because you can't catch on as fast as others who have played for a long time.

[scrillakiller]

LIKE I TOLD YALL I KNOW XBOX IS THE BEST IN REAL LIFE.WE BOTH LVE IN BROWARD CNTY FLA.HE HAS RECENTLY ADMITTED HE WAS BUYING PS3 TILL I MADE FUN OF HIM FR BEIN A FAKE XBOX FAN AS I AM A PS3 FAN AND WILL NOT CONSIDER BUYING XCRAP EVER.HE JUST LIKE TO BABBLE AND HES HURT CUZ PS3 AND BLURAY ARE NOW STOMPING HIS CHOSEN FORMAT AND GARBAGE CAN CONSOLE IN EVERY DEPARTMENT HE SAID IT COULDNT.SALES AND GRAPHICS MAINLY.BY THE WAY DID I MENTION HE SAYS HES GETTING PS3

[i Shank u]

i live in palm bch county and need a translator to understand what you said
if xbox is the best in real life, then ps3 is the best in fake life?

Edit - Lol thx man for clarifying

[aaquib5]

He's referring to the N4G commenter "XBOX is the Best."

[mighty_douche]

its slower to make it more enjoyable for console gamers, a pad simply cant be as quick and accurate as a mouse (dont get mad, its true), its done to BENEFIT YOU! its meant to be FUN remember.

ps. PS3 cant compete with a good PC on raw power, slower means better graphics >compromise<. no oine heres even played it yet they already slate it and the platform. i guarantee you this game will RULE!! lets try not to pick it to pieces before we've EVEN PLAYED IT!

[SullyDrake]

When I have the game in my hands, you can guarantee I won't be caring about xbot comments on N4G, and will only care about kicking truckloads of ass online and offline with my new timed-PS3-exclusive.

[Italianstallion]

As much as i enjoyed Unreal tournament 2004 on the pc, I could only play one or two hours at a time before discomfort of motion sickness would overtake the twitch gameplay fun of the game. I know that it seems like a bad thing to alot of people, but for me personally, I am even more interested in picking this up for the ps3 instead of pc due to hopefully getting less motion sickness from things moving a bit slower.

[Relientk77]

I dont mind that its slower

like someone said up there ^ halo is slower on xbox then pc ...

nothings wrong with that its fine

[name]

Thumbs don't move as fast as your whole arm. That's why. Why does everything have to be spent so negativly all the time when it's the ps3?

[mighty_douche]

i guess now its picking up pass "certain" people get defensive... i dont get it man, just consoles, get both if your that bothered.

[PimpHandHappy]

the bubble system is there to allow ppl to speak. When you see a troll in a PS3 thread take a bubble please

then b4 u know it we wont have to see Icewake make stupid comments.

just a bubble check if u will

DO IT

[okcomputer]

Probably for the same reason halo 3 has auto aim, and cross platform fps gaming between console users and pc users would be a joke. Because m&k offers far better precision aiming at higher speeds.

[Xbox is the BEST]

I play video games and probably get a PS#3 what's wrong with that? I win by playing everything the definition of a gamer.

[Rhezin]

I heard this game was sh!t anyway so who cares, oh wait sony does. Good luck with this game LOL

[scrillakiller]

now ur a gamer well let me say maybe now u are in the begining it was ps3 sucks ill never buy one,phuck sony.ps3 sucks,i hate sony,sony dont make good games.all xbox is the best quotes from real life which im sure hes said on here also.anyway u guys can thank me for for converting him.i baught my best friend who is his roommate who was a bigtime 360 fan and now he loves ps3 more thn xbox.i told xbox is the best when i gave best gamer alive(his roommate thats his name on this forum)a ps3 that this would become his favorite system and he would end up buying one.guess what he buying one now and me im content with my ps3 and have no interest in buying the add on box ever but ill be getting the wii which is suprising myself

[Jamaicangmr]

I know this is a bit off topic but how many chapters are there in Uncharted?

[okcomputer]

22, the last two are very short though.

[Jamaicangmr]

Thanks man Plus bubbles for you. I got it and COD4 yesterday but i loaned my friend but today he said he's on Chapther 17 so i wanted to know how soon before i get my sh!t back.

[HondaSIRowner]

He said the gameplay control speed.

Mark Rein-- "because your fingers are just not as precise as your whole arm, right? To me the movement and speed as a console gamer is just right".

[SDS Overfiend]

All the unreal games where all over the place. I use to think the sh1ts moved at light speed. The action was intense from the get go. That led to me thinking the games was just a mish-mash with no stategic gameplay. boy i was wrong. If he did slow the game down it because he realized that even at a slow pace(Gears of War.) You can still have a great online experience without scaring off people newcomers who love to just play the game. He not talking about he game being slow due to graphcial limitations. He just stating the obvious. PC versions will always move fast no matter what. You see how fast Gears Move on PC don't you?

[jackdoe]

My god, some of these 360 fanboys are freaking braindead. Console FPS always have had slower pacing.

[SabreMan]

the unblinkered unbiased gamer knows you are right but unfortunately the blinkered fanboy has to perceive this topic as a negative against the ps3 or Mark Rein is making excuses

it's blatantly obvious no console gamer could control UT3 with a gamepad at the speed it runs on a good pc no matter how good said gamer thinks he/she is

[The Chief of Mjolnir]

OK, this site has became a f*cking fanboy base.
It should be named N4F - News 4 Fanboys.
All the so called "news" I see here are "This is outselling that" and "This looks better than that"

I´m done with this pathetic sh*t hole.

I´ll stick with Gametrailers instead.

[Daxx]

Fly free true gamer. Fly free!

I myself would be on Neogaf right now if it wasn't for them not accepting my email account that I pay for...

[AshleyRiot]

Yeah i read the article and undersand what he's saying either way i'm getting it for ps3 and looking forward to mods. Just cause its news about a certain console and some people are apparently married to another of course they'll make stuff up and spread FUD in hopes of not making their significant other jealous.

[Bebedora]

from this (im)poster's link or this long thread had stayed at 20 replies.

[Pika-pie]

Im glad its slower on the PS3. It has to be, you just cant be as quick and accurate at pointing and shooting with analogue sticks as you can with a mouse.

[Rice]

It's part of life, we take sh*t and eat it????

[TwissT]

What are you talking about?

[scrillakiller]

20 - It's
slower on consoles but the 360 version will be smoother and faster. 60FPS 360 version. 30 FPS PS#3 version.
Mr. Rein said that and it was posted on N4G awhile back

just give it up man.u lied everyone here knows it u know and no xbox fan has backed u up yet which we all know had it been true the 360 clan would have aided u by now.for telling such a lie i say we take his bubbles

[NRG]

He's not talking about FPS-anything. He's talking about the gamespeed. Unreal Engine can easily have everything changed in speed through a decimal or percentage. It's like speeding up or slowing down the rate of a movie. That's not the same thing as frames-per-second. If you have Unreal Tournament for PC, all you have to do is type "slowmo" followed by a decimal in the console. There's no reason to doubt it doesn't work in UT3 or Gears of War for PC.

[Korosuke]

UT's game speed depends on server/host configuration.
It's just PS3 default setting is slower than PC's, isn't it ?
Wyh you guys so yelling ?

[supercharged]

whats will all the hating people. this game is also coming o 360 and its going to be the exact same thing.

[WilliamRLBaker]

That has got to be the stupidest explaination i've ever heard! so what do pc gamers play with their arms and not their fingers? last I checked a safe cracker has to have very dexterous fingers....not a very dexterous arm.... Most pc gamers HARDLY move their arms when playing its all wrist and fingers...lol wow that was stupid.

[Bolts]

That explaination was dumb because he was playing politics. Anyone with any UT experience would realize that the frantic old school DM gameplay is way beyond what the console control pad can handle. I'm not sure if it slowing down is the answer, the console also need some sort of automaim.

Frankly I'm not sure how the hell PS3 users are going to handle DM style moves like rocket jumping and what not so by it's nature the console version must play different. Console gamers simply can not perform like the mouse and keyboard users.

To get an idea of how fast this game is on the PC check out this vid. Click on the Deimos clip. Can console gamers keep up with this game's speed? Hell no.

http://media.pc.ign.com/med...

[hardcorehippiez]

you use your arm to move the mouse unless u have a trackball then its all in the wrist. analogue pads are comfortable to play with but are no way as accurate or as fast as k/m set up which is why the speed of the game has been slowed down to a more comfortable level. easy to understand really , some people just arent with the program at all really, they got their head so far up there fanboy ass that theyll speak any sh1t jus to try and make something look bad.

[SuperSaiyan4]

If this was the 360 then for sure all the PS3 fanbabies would be attacking the 360 and laughing and saying the PS3 version will be the best thanks to the CELL...

However didnt PS3 fanbabies say before release the best version is the PS3 version??? Not soo true never will be when going up against top end PC's.

Anyhow we will have to see how the 360 one fairs when it comes out.

[SabreMan]

However didnt PS3 fanbabies say before release the best version is the PS3 version??? Not soo true never will be when going up against top end PC's.

now if you weren't such a 360 fanbaby i'm sure you would realize that the above comment was aimed at the console version.
No console version of a game compared to a high end pc version be it Gears of War, UT3 (insert any other cross platform game here)would be better on console. It's blatantly obvious the high end pc will always come out on top

what actually are you trying to say ??

[The Milkman]

I dont know why everyone is so hyped on this game honestly. It hasnt showed anything that makes me want to pre-order it. I seen some of the gameplay it actually made me put it on the bottom on my to rent list lol.

Im simply not impressed by this game at all. I dont know its just an odd feeling I have about this game. Maybe they could prove me wrong when it releases. But if they do I still highly doubt Ill be hooked on it for long. But I want to try to avoid dissing this game cause I could be punching myself in the mouth.

[predator]

all you fanboys with ur sad name calling "xbots, sony girls" are sad, get a life, jesus i bet u all sleep with ur consoles in bed dont u

[sonyfanonly]

its still going to be badass on the ps3 look at motorstorm it runs in at 30 fps and resistance runs it in 30 fps and they are both good games --------------- cant wait