Mario Kart 7 [Review] |

Casey White wrote : "Nintendo has been on a roll with their Holiday line-up. Mario 3D Land was an awesome iteration of the series on the Nintendo 3DS that brought together all the best parts of the series into one game. The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword is the first true successor to the lofty throne of Ocarina of Time, and one of the best of the series long and tenured history. That’s why when Mario Kart 7 came across my desk I, as a major competitive fan of the series, got incredibly excited. It’s unfortunate however, that the game is as lazy as its title."

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Venox20082977d ago

4? really? web looking for hits?

Dj C42977d ago

Shallow Comment? Really? N4G user not reading article before commenting?

Having played the game myself, I'd have to agree the score was justified based on the break down of why.

It's impossible to lose in this game. The single player experience is the equivalent of putting bumpers in the gutters of the bowling alley. Little kids might enjoy it, but there is zero skill involved. The AI is just as insulting as the Wii version, if not more so... your Banana peels disappear after you complete a lap, they tacked on a bunch of "because we can do it" silly motion and 3D features, the cart modifications mean nothing other than aesthetics.

If you have specific reasons it should have a higher score however, that would be a better use of the comment area.

Venox20082977d ago (Edited 2977d ago )

so by your logic if game has issues that you said (if you can say thats issues) has it, it has to get 4? 4? sorry, but games that I know got 4 are almost unplayable or ar games that are shame to play, they don't have any fun or gameplay...

This game from what I see has great graphics, one of the best onlines in 3DS or maybe in Nintendo products overall, 60fps in both 3D or not and get a 4? :D :D :D yeah, riiight.. btw Mario Kart Wii was awesome game, no matter you play online or not, this one looks really good too, so I can't see it to get a 4.. 8 MINIMUM

klecser2977d ago

Ok, I'll bite. I did read the whole article and its pretty clear from the review that the person who reviewed the game doesn't quite "get" Mario Kart.

"The dumbing down of the series is getting worse and worse, and has become a legitimate issue with gaming in general and Nintendo in specific."

The purpose of Mario Kart has never been to "win" races. If that were the purpose, prior iterations would have had a lot more than 16 tracks. If the purpose is to win races, why did people keep playing after they beat each of the 16 tracks?

The point of Mario Kart, and its "challenge", isn't in "winning" races. Its in besting times. Mario Kart tracks have always been easy. That isn't the point. The point is to seek a higher quality finish, not to "just finish".

The second point of Mario Kart is to have fun in multiplayer. Have you ever watched people who are good at the game battle each other in multiplayer? It is their own skill level that dictates the challenge of the game, not the tracks themselves.

The reviewer doesn't quite get the game. I don't have any predispositions to what the score "should" be, but I know that a 4 on this game, based upon other reviews out there, suggests that the reviewer doesn't understand the game. Why does everyone else give high scores? They're all crazy and this reviewer "gets it"? I don't think so.

TheNightNinja2976d ago

I'm fine with people disagreeing with the score, but I'm not the only one out there that felt this title fell flat. Saying that I don't "understand" the game is a little silly. I've been a fan of the franchise since the SNES title, played and loved (almost) all of the games.

The fact of the mater is that the game used to provide a challenge, the SNES, N64, Gamecube and DS versions required a bit of skill to complete challenges/compete. The game is being dumbed down in every new iteration now and requires less and less skill and more and more luck (I've often referred the Wii iteration to a slot machine).

I feel the points that are raised in the article back up the score, and I think when you actually get around to playing the game you'll see what I mean about the game clearing paths for you and providing a condescending atmosphere for long-term fans of the series... Unless you were a huge fan of the Wii game, in which case we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the quality of the Mario Kart franchise in recent years.

TheNightNinja2976d ago (Edited 2976d ago )

@Venox2008 - Just a quick add to your point of "4s being unplayable" that's a problem with how the industry, or maybe just personal perceptions, of how a score of 1 to 10 works.

4 is just below average for Shogun Gamer, which I think is fair for this. It's not saying "OMFG this is the worst piece of trash since Superman 64" it's saying that it's below average.

I always recommend people check into what the number actually mean ( ) based on the review sites personal scale because people always have a different interpretation of what a number means... It's a good idea to know what the reviewer's idea of the number is before assuming anything about the number based on your own perspective, or even other review sites.

For reference because I know most people are not willing to do their own research :
"4 (Poor) - This product has missed the mark in a bad way. Maybe it wasn't well thought out? Maybe it was just bad execution of a great idea? In the end, the cons greatly outweigh any chance of good times. Hell it may even be broken in some aspect. Probably not worth your time."

It'd have to be a 1 or a 2 before I call the game completely unplayable. Shogun tends to use the whole 1 to 10 scale, rather than just using the now increasingly popular 7 to 10.

klecser2976d ago

I have no problem with you breaking with industry standard on your scores. And I'm impressed and respect the fact that you have the guts to come on here and defend your score. I obviously haven't played the game. I need to check out some of your other reviews too now so that I can gauge if your review style is consistent on other known titles that I have played.

That said, although you're entitled to your opinion, I'm interested in what sort of message this sends about you personally and your segment of journalism as a whole. When the game is consistently getting "greats" by lots of reviewers and gets a "poor" from you, there are several possible explanations:

1) The game really is great, but your personal biases are clouding your review, making your review only valid for the segment of gamers that self identify as "old school games were harder in my day, sonny" crowd.

2)The game really is great and you simply don't understand it. Don't be offended by this but this happens pretty frequently. Samurai Warriors: Chronicles is a good example of this. It got low reviews and I can see how some people wouldn't like the style. But a review should never review genre, IMO. It should review the actual game. The IGN review of it was particularly horrible as it was clear the reviewer hadn't played the game for long enough to "get it" because the game does have a steeper learning curve than some.

3) The game really is poor, and the twenty or so other reviews I've seen that give it good to excellent are written by morons.

I guessed number 2 first and was wrong. So far a consumer who reads a ton of game reviews, can you see how Number 3 is a hard sell for me and that I'm inclined to pick Number 1 now?

Why does this matter, you might ask? Well, unlike droves of Fanboys who get upset when games they like get low scores, I don't "need" Mario Kart to get all good reviews from everybody. What I do want is reliability and validity in reviews that I read and it strikes me as strange that yours isn't reliable (its a very clear outlier) and that makes me question its validity. Specifically, you reviewed the game for yourself, not the masses. And that would be fine, except for the fact that your review only really does any good for people who have your exact opinion about the franchise. Maybe its good that you're serving that segment, but it doesn't do me any good.

Its not like I write newspapers when movie reviews show clear bias in their reviews so I think we need to just agree to disagree and once again thanks for coming on here and giving your perspective! :)

TheNightNinja2976d ago

First of all: No worries about coming in here to talk about the review. I like the back and forth, and it's a big reason why I fell in love with the industry. Generally speaking there's a better atmosphere for open discussion and intelligent conversation among gamers, and specifically here on N4G.

To your offering of three potential options, yes, I would say that number one is the absolute most likely scenario. I believe that all reviews are, and can only ever be, opinion pieces. It is one point of view on a particular title. That's why so many different video game review sites can exist, and why scores can swing from site to site. There is no one rule for what makes a game "good," we don't have one uniform set of rules that everyone in the industry uses (if there was, there’d probably only be one site as well, what’s the point of repeating the same review?).

I write my reviews as personal opinions of the games. While you might not share the point of view, and may indeed wind up loving the game, there are plenty of people out there that are competitive Mario Kart enthusiasts that will probably prefer a heads-up to the faults the game has rather than going in thinking it's a game of the year contender (seriously, I just cannot fathom how other sites are getting 9s and 9.5s, but that's their opinion and they're entitled to it just as much as I am to mine).

You remember the old adage "write what you know?" Well, that's how I approach the writing I do. I write from my perspective because it's the one I have the most to say about. Trying to observe games clinically or account for every potential stance would, in my opinion, feel like a disservice. Those articles, to me, feel pandering. Trying to make sure that every groups’ thought process is represented, compromising your own opinions/thoughts/views, is nigh impossible.

I would much rather be someone that takes a stand and says "Here's what I think. Agree or disagree." I feel leads to a much stronger piece, and a better conversation point (and would point to our conversation here on N4G as my ‘case in point’).

Dj C42976d ago

This is one of the better back and forth discussions / exchanges of game review ideologies in a while. Bubbles for you all.