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Can Nintendo save the 3DS and revive their industry presence?

The 3DS has had a troubling life thus far, but can Nintendo put it back on the straight and narrow with their forthcoming releases?

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Bleucrunch4565d ago

doubt it because they tried to trick the people with this no glasses 3D gimmick and it failed....they thought they could get away with it again like they did with the wii...Introduce a new console and just rehash old classics which is cool at first but the people always want something new, interesting and fun as far as games are concerned. Don't release corny products and maybe you will make some money Nintendo.....

Shok4565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

They "tricked" people? What are you talking about? The 3DS does exactly what it's advertised to do.

Rehashing old classics? Yes, there is Ocarina of Time and Starfox 64, but that's just 2 games dude. You people take 2 games and try to make it out like that's the whole library. Complete stretching and exaggeration.

Besides, you Sony fans don't mind buying all the PS2 "remastered" games. It's the same concept, no? An old game remade for a new system (GOW collection, ICO collection, etc). Yet, for some reason, when Nintendo does it it's a bad thing but it's ok for Sony to do it.

"people always want something new"

Kid Icarus Uprising

"Don't release corny products and maybe you will make some money Nintendo"

These "corny products" are some of the highest rated and highest selling games of all time. Their latest console sold almost 90 million untis and their last handheld sold over 130 mil.....yea, I think they made money.

Squatch834565d ago

Not to mention that the Vita will be having even more ports and rehashes. I dont see them complaining about that...

ECM0NEY4564d ago

So why did Nintendo claim they lost 1.3 billion on thier last financial report?

NukaCola4564d ago

My only beef towards the 3DS is the marketing technique. Why is Luigi's Mansion 2 a 3DS game? Why is Nintendo using the 3DS as a main platform for a sequel to a game that should of been a Wii title years ago? I don't want direct sequels on a handheld, they should be side games, not forcing me to get a 3DS to play it. And calling the 3DS Mario Kart "7" as opposed to something more fitting like..um 3D..just shows Nintty is pushing the 3DS up front and it makes me think the Wii U will be an after thought. I hope I am wrong, but this is how I feel.

StanSmith4564d ago

@ECM0NEY

Go look how much money Sony & MS made from the PS3 & 360. Both of them lost more money than Nintendo.

Nintendo were making a profit the moment the Wii and DS released. They never lost money on a single console. They sold 90 million Wii consoles and 130 million DS consoles. Then there are all their licensing fees from games plus the sales for their first party games.

Do you honestly think they are low on money because they posted a loss of 1.3 billion?

ChickeyCantor4564d ago

""remastered"

O you mean screen resolution up remastered?
At least OOT had new models and better animations.
LOL

Knushwood Butt4564d ago

'Besides, you Sony fans don't mind buying all the PS2 "remastered" games. It's the same concept, no? An old game remade for a new system (GOW collection, ICO collection, etc). Yet, for some reason, when Nintendo does it it's a bad thing but it's ok for Sony to do it. '.

Last time I checked, Sony weren't trying to sell their systems on the back of remakes.

ChickeyCantor4564d ago

"Last time I checked, Sony weren't trying to sell their systems on the back of remakes."

I seriously laughed at this.
Are you denying that Sony is doing it for the money?
Priceless.

Knushwood Butt4564d ago

The biggest game on the 3DS so far is OoT.

It's a remake.

Nintendo are basically selling the 3DS on the back of that remake.

Is that simple enough for you to understand?

They did it last time around too with Mario 64 on the DS. Remeber????

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Bleucrunch4565d ago

@ Shok you are absolutely correct what sony is doing with these ps2 remakes is sickening and I for one do not support I love nintendo as well but you gotta admit New IP's arent their thing...I love the classics but I just want some new IP's from nintendo...their are only so many times I will play super mario world and ocarina of time before I get bored.

Shok4565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

I totally see what you're saying,

BUT,

the thing is, people don't buy Nintendo systems for new IPs. You buy a Nintendo system for Nintendo games, Nintendo franchises. People who bought the Wii wanted Mario and Zelda.

But there's also 2 things ya gotta keep in mind: 1) All because Nintendo isn't making new IPs, doesn't mean 3rd-parties aren't. Some people seem to think that a Nintendo console = ONLY Nintendo games. They forget about the 3rd-party games out there. Take the Wii for instance. MadWorld, No More Heroes, and Muramasa are all new, exclusive IPs to the Wii. (NMH WAS but you get the point) And 2)There's more Nintendo games than just Mario and Zelda. You got:

Punch Out!!
Sin & Punishment 2
DK Country Returns
Kirby
Smash Bros
Fire Emblem

etc.

There's non-Mario/Zelda offerings out there, you just needa stop listening to the anti-Nintendo propaganda out there from these fanboys and go look for them.

P.S: Oh, and about the remakes, simply don't buy them. They're optional.....Sony and Nintendo aren't forcing you to buy them. Skip them.....just buy the new games.

bergoo4564d ago

"The most anticipated game in history "...MW3, is coming to Wii.

stragomccloud4564d ago

That's a valid point, however, the thing is... If you already have a bunch of really popular IPs, that continue to reinvent themselves, while retaining the same basic concepts, and people keep buying them, you don't really need to make new IPs.

Heck, New Super Mario Bros. Wii sold more than 22 million! That's insane for a console exclusive.

Although actually, Nintendo did create some New IPs in the way of Xenoblade and Pandora's Tower(Last Story is Mistwalker's, an independent developers), but those never came stateside.

AdvanceWarsSgt4563d ago (Edited 4563d ago )

LOL @ Knushwood for believing that Mario 64 is the biggest game in the DS lineup.

Shok4565d ago

The 3DS has already been put on the right track. Did everyone miss how the sales jumped up 280%?

And as mentioned in the article, Mario Kart 7 and Mario Land will boost the sales up even more. It's gonna have a colossal holiday season.

Protagonist4564d ago

Ahh ;o) how easy and convenient to ignore the $80 Dollar 3DS price cut.

jacen1004565d ago

well said, and yes you are correct the 3ds hasent even hit peak these few titles coming around xmas will surley sell allot, not to mention how many people are gonna buy the 3ds because of these games

dredgewalker4564d ago

As far as I know the 3DS is now one of the leading portable platforms. It's selling well so I don't think Nintendo has a problem. Nintendo usually has a weak follow-up of games when starting a new system but give it a year and you'll see regular releases that will make up for the drought. They've lost money but Sony has also been through this many times and they're still alive so I doubt it will spell the end for Nintendo.

MasterCornholio4564d ago (Edited 4564d ago )

Fanboys may disagree with me on this.

In my opinion Nintendo has saved the 3DS from being the next Virtua boy by dropping the price and improving their holiday lineup. Nintendo isn't in any danger but the Vita this time aroundd will cause fierce competition to happen between the two.

Which is a great thing because Monopolys are never good. Because they do what they want with the industry without any consequences. I am happy that Sony ended Nintendo's monopoly in the handheld market.

XperiaRay

StanSmith4564d ago

The Vita will have to drop it's price before it can compete with the 3DS. If Nintendo couldn't get 130 million DS owners to upgrade at it's high price, then Sony won't either.

With the current economy, i see an uphill struggle for Sony because of Vita's Price and because they are missing the Holiday sales this year. By this time next year, i can see the Vita dropping £80 from it's retail price.

I got burnt with the 3DS price drop so i'm not gonna let it happen again with the Vita.

LeBronista4564d ago

The 3DS is not worth the $250 during its launch. First there were no compelling games during launch. If there is one, it's a remake and for most people that is not a good sign, plus the specs of 3DS is now worth $250 imo, its a rip-off. But if they have launch MGS 3D, RE: Revelations and throw in a Pokemon game then it I could have conclude that its a must buy system at launch.

Let's go to Vita, when Vita was announced and Sony showed its specs and features people hope (not predicted) for a price that will range around $250 to $300, and that is what Sony is giving them with a number of games on launch.

StanSmith4564d ago

Give me a break. Vita only has 2 compelling launch titles. Those being Uncharted and Wipeout.

Also, you are forgetting that Sony is making you buy their own brand, overpriced Memory cards to get even more cash out of you (which is required for some launch games).

You can go go to the top of the highest mountain screaming about how great the tech is but facts are, if the price is right, people will buy it. If it's too high (ala 3DS) they won't. The PS3 never took off until Sony removed stuff from it and cut the price even with all it's features and tech. The same will happen to the Vita. The very fact it costs more than a PS3 will put people off.

LeBronista4564d ago

You lost me at that Vita got only 2 worthy titles at launch. Gravity Daze is promising, and LBP and ModNation Racers looks tighter because of the PS3 like PSN service the Vita is getting. UMvC looks well also.

And you have a point about the price being right then people would buy it, still games are the reason why a system sells. Ninty can price the 3DS for about $50 but without games I don't think people would go for it if they'll just release ports of DS and N64 titles.

And Vita's price is right, that is what people are asking ($250 - $300).

AdvanceWarsSgt4563d ago (Edited 4563d ago )

Yep, because SO MANY PEOPLE bought the PS3 at it's original price tag because it easily had the best tech between the Wii and 360. What's funny is that people who champion that the Vita and PS3 are worth the money are the same ones that moan about the cost to entry of building a PC, which runs laps around ANY console on the market.

Still, LOL @ believing price doesn't matter.

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stragomccloud4564d ago

Someone disagreed with you~!
Anyway, I totally agree with you. Especially on the point of competition. Without Sony to keep Nintendo on it's toes, and vice versa, we as the consumer end up with inferior products! I'm really glad someone finally held their ground against Nintendo in the handheld market!

Studio-YaMi4564d ago (Edited 4564d ago )

Totally agree

That's why the 3DS is doing well now and picking up the pace,because of the price cut and the new announced games,when the PS-vita comes out,Nintendo needs to pump more into their system to have a decent competition against Sony's new handheld,that's a fact.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10116d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref16d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde16d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197216d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville16d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218315d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos15d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai16d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref16d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan16d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00715d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197216d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197216d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref16d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde16d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197216d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197216d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier16d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto16d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218315d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto15d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman16d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts16d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic15d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel23d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8822d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing22d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS21d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder21d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218321d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.