Call of Duty 4 not 'true HD'

The resolution clocks in at 600p, not the standard 720p.

Following the rather embarrassing debacle that was the revelation that Halo 3 doesn't run in true HD, it turns out that Call Of Duty 4 doesn't either.

As highlighted by Evil Avatar, a thread over at tech forums Beyond3D has highlighted that Call of Duty 4 doesn't run in 'true HD', which is the industry standard of 720p.

[Multigamer]

here we go, this should be interesting.

notice the other games for the ps3 that isnt true hd too, i think some of u were to quick to bash halo 3 now

[Meus Renaissance]

I love Halo but the flagship title of each platform should be visually impressive if not the best. Halo 3 doesn't look that great in all honesty, especially when you compare it to even Call of Duty 4 which blows it away in almost every aspect except the lighting.

I remember the E3 2006 trailer for Halo 3, they said it was in-game engine. Master Chief was being compared to the likes of KillZone 2 and Gears of War in terms of visuals. There was a real buzz, and then the Beta came out and people dismissed that saying "its just a Beta, visuals will be better". Didn't come to fruition.

And yes I'm angry about how it turned out. It's still the same gameplay that made it a huge success, it's not like the developers would have tampered with that, but being on the 360 - knowing the visuals can look so much better - I have to wonder why Bungie and Microsoft didn't make that an issue. As far as I'm concerned, the criticism it got for that was justified.

The resolution issue with Halo was just a bit of irony. That's a different discussion to this, I feel, regarding the detail of the graphics that Infinity Award managed to deliver.

[Evil0Angel]

bt i play multiplayer from time to time

[Mr PS3]

Have you read the article and were does this say anything about the PS3?
Click on the Read full story and were does the link take you ? It takes you to Offical xbox magazine so correct me if im wrong this is an article about the xbox !! so were does your dumm ass get off on sayin
"notice the other games for the ps3 that isnt true hd too, i think some of u were to quick to bash halo 3 now" Sorry but i dont understand what your gettin at and once again were does it mention anything about the PS3 !!
And yes everybody that did'nt give a rats ass about halo was in there right to mention the resolution and have a good old laugh at halo and if this game runs at 600p then let em mention it again as the article says were did that other 120p go? Thats the question you should be askin
This is clearly an Xbox site and a question for the xbox!! absolutley nothing to do with the PS3!!

Edit

Oh sorry predator this question was aimed at multigamer and i'll say it again were in the article does it say anythin about the PS3 so take a look at his comment and you'll see what i'm gettin at and you wanna call me stupid take a look at your spellin dummy before you edit it!! Now go on and cry to someone else on how you can't stand fanboy's like i give a sh!t

[predator]

mr ps3, b4 u shout your mouth I suggest u read the whole article, go to the forums and look as you will see it, also if you cant be assed here is a link to what u can find in the forums:

http://www.playstatic.com/n...

now who looks stupid, cant stand fanboys like u

edit: at mr ps3 - whats not spelt right? also the article includes the source that it came from which is the forums. so my comment was right.

[WilliamRLBaker]

you were owned so bad, Oh the ps3 isn't even mentioned oh it was? nah that still dont count!

[Ju]

I still have a hard time believing, that PS3 games render anything less then the native line resolution. But, well, if it is, it is. I just can't imagine, that the additional y-scaler uses less bandwidth then rendering in native resolution. You'd need an extra frame and filters to scale those lines in SW on the PS3. So, OK, now you have X x 600 -> scaled to 1280x720. And you need one more frame buffer on a PS3 which already (according to rumors) has memory troubles already. That does not make sense to me at all. But, heck, if it is, then it is.
The HW scaler can only scale X resolution, and usually you will use a multiplier which can be linear interpolate (like even division of the target resolution). This one would not cost you any memory, AFAIK, because it is a "on the fly" feature (more like the 360 scaler). So, unless someone posts a link to the dev. clarifying those issues, I really have a hard time believing any of that BS.

(BTW: For R&C: It does not scale! It adds blank lines above and below (8 each), not really visible).

Edit: I got a disagree ? Don't just disagree. Convince me that I am wrong. I have no problem admitting I am wrong if your arguments are plausible.

[Scrooge]

I dont care, I play the PC version which plays at whatever resolution I tell it too. Ha

[barom]

http://www.gamepro.com/sony...
Says "Ninja Gaiden Sigma has new bosses, improved enemies, and glorious 1080p graphics."

Your link says 1280x720p. I call bull. Marvel Ultimate Alliance runs at 1080p on PS3 and where's the 360? Were they afraid to show that the 360 was actually weaker? Or how about Virtua Tennis. The list is so full of crap, you stink just by reading it.

That said, I believe Call Of Duty 4 runs the same on both consoles.

[predator]

well these guys at this forum do this for a living so ill go wit them and not gamepro thanks.

[Lacarious]

especially when they've been working on it for 3+ years and were supposed to "get it right" only to come out with non HD graphics, stupid azz split screen idiocy and a campaign mode that made absolute no sense. In fact, they even had a level where you go up and down the same level 3 times. How freaking retarded and lazy is that?

[P4KY B]

NO!
So please just enjoy the game, its brilliant.

[mighty_douche]

... theres far to much emphasis on numbers/ststa/figures lately.

question: does the game look sh!t hot?

answer: yes

conclusion: who gives a f*ck what res it happens to be.

[ravinash]

If this article never came out, no one would have known.
Next time I sit down to play it I be doing just that...playing it, not getting out the ruler to count the pixals.

[mesh1]

1st day i played cod4 beta i knew something was odd i thougth maybe it wa sbecuase i was using a monitor but th textures o everything expecially in the mulip-layer player seem low reza game that shows a massive defference in rez compared to cod4 is asassins creed the game looks very sharp

[Nostradavis]

This is a pretty good read
http://www.n4g.com/industry...

[skagrerrrr]

care if it runs on 600p, the game rocks.

Stop what you are doing...lets go gaming!

[Multigamer]

bet u werent sayin that when u found out halo 3 runs at that huh?

[skagrerrrr]

Sorry to disappoint.

i love rb6:vegas on the 360, one of the best shooters IMO.
i also play cod 4 on the 360

[InMyOpinion]

Halo 3 wasn't 720p? I must have missed that article...I guess I was too busy PLAYING THE DAMN GAME!

There are tons of things more important than resolutions. Framerates for example.

[PimpHandHappy]

if u care ur a tool

this game is the best looking FPS on what ever consele you own.

It blows Halo out of the water

[PimpHandHappy]

maybe Unreal will look this good but time will tell. I dont think any FPS will look this good for a year or two

[Meus Renaissance]

KillZone 2 will blow COD4 away. It already does and I'm confident it'll be released within the next 12 months so...

[PimpHandHappy]

maybe KZ2 but the last KZ was lame and boring.

COD4 is the SH!T

HEY HEY HEY

Whats with all the disagrees.....lol

KZ was the best looking FPS on the PS2 ok!!!! JEEES

lol

[MrSwede]

Hmmm, last time someone tried this it failed. http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend...

This time it's the same source but OXM has written something about it..

Edit: DarthNihilus, this should've been yours!

[zonetrooper5]

This will be a flamewar and I will approve as its news. Frankly I think Halo 3 does look great and yes I'm playing it in HD, I love playing Halo 3 and I did enjoy the CoD4 Beta. However, I don't care if the res is at 600p. Man people do complain alot these days.

I have a feeling people will do this in the comment section:

OMG TEH GALYO SUCKS LOLOLOLOLOLOL COD 4 > GAYLO 3 AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

or the sh!tbox is so sh!tty

BS3 IS SO POOO POPOP OJASJDIOASJODUASDASDUI

etc etc.

[mighty_douche]

.... on my PC.....

EDIT: lol a disagree?? you know more about my pc than me huh? lol console noobs...

[royalracoon]

All know is that it looks really good on my Plasma

[caffman]

the mutts nuts on my LCD

[Torch]

"its in TRUE 1080p HD actually....
.... on my PC....."

Heh heh, precisely what I was thinking while skimming through this futile pissing contest of comments...

Man, once you've seen and played this game at glorious, true 1680x1050, you'll have to manually roll your tongue back up into your mouth, and tie a bungie cord around your head to keep your jaw from continuously dropping.

On a somewhat unrelated sidenote: I picked up the PC version of this title up in tandem with Gears of War...admittedly, although I've seen my fair share of GoW footage over the past year, I have actually never played it until now. I had picked up this title solely upon the basis of hype.

In all honesty - despite Gears looking visually sparkly and shiny...well, I honestly thus far find all that hype completely unsubstantiated...gameplay feels to klunky and the environment feels so actionless and, uh, "empty" (maybe...<gasp!>...'bori ng' is a better word???).

Maybe it's just me, or I'm too early into the game???

Call of Duty on the other hand...oh, man!...

[Charlie2688]

@Torch: nope that is pretty much it when the ultra media and fanboy hype is dead and the 360s game drought seasons has been overcome

I bought the game near launch but never understood what the hype was about or if you had to take some sort of pills to get the experience the reviewers were having when they were giving the game the ultra high scores >.>

[Torch]

OK then...I take full responsibility...

It was completely my fault for getting a taste of glorious CoD4 BEFORE trying Gears.

(There's another game for my dust pile.) ;)

[InMyOpinion]

Gears of war shouldn't be played on a PC. That's why the controls feel clunky. It's optimized to be played with a gamepad, preferably the 360 controller. Also, the PC version wasn't developed by Epic, it was ported by some polish team - the makers of Painkiller. Maybe you should give the 360 version a try before you bash it too hard ;)

[Torch]

Duly noted.

[Meus Renaissance]

KZ2 does look better than COD4, I'm sorry but to those who disagreed with that, come back here when you're balls have dropped and you can see the truth in front of your eyes.

[RadientFlux]

what does Killzone 2 have to do with this article

[Meus Renaissance]

Read the comments

[InMyOpinion]

It's just more incoherent drivel from Meus Renaissance - brought to you by Sony!

[Meus Renaissance]

COD4

[Meus Renaissance]

KZ2. Maybe because its not on the 360, is why people disagree that it looks better on a game that is on the 360.

[FirstknighT]

So why did COD4 beat out Killzone 2 in the graphics department at this years e3??? Almost every site/journalist gave COD4 best graphics. Your fanboyism blinds you my friend.

[InMyOpinion]

I prefer judging games in reality, preferably on a hi-def LCD with a controller in my hand. I guess you are nothing but a .JPG-gamer. Try actually playing the games for real some time. Sloppy pictures from the internet isn't the way to compare games. Loser...

[fermcr]

If you want true HD... buy the PC version of the game.

[vilmer]

Exactly.

[IrishAssa]

... Unfortunately am not rich enough to afford a pc that can run this game at your standards so I had to buy an XboX 360

[Maddens Raiders]

it was 20P, if all 20P gaqmes looked this good, then by golly make them all 20P! 8D

[bym051d]

I've been following the thread on Beyond3D for quite a while. Note that both the Xbox and PS3 versions are running at 600p.

That being said, Infinity Ward did a great job with those 600 lines. COD4 looks awesome.

[Mikelarry]

ppl the graphics dont make the game(yes i know it makes it look pretty) but thats all its gameplay that really counts. like true after the first 3 times you play it your gonna be like oh nooooo i am bored of this now cuz its not true HD

[DrWan]

.

[Enigma_2099]

It's leaps and bounds better than 8 bit you spoiled brats!!!!

Why, in my day, I was satisfied with anything at least 16 bit!!!

So shut your holes and let's get to gaming!!!

What next, you gonna complain about the "jaggies?"

[Enigma_2099]

... that the guy who disagreed with me is a graphics whore.

[WilliamRLBaker]

its an freaking awsome game and i dont care about its resolution:)

[mighty_douche]

actually be bringing fanboys from both sides closer together?

this game can do no wrong.....

[wallace1000]

Who really gives a crap. People really need to get a life instead of writing up articles like this. People can't tell the difference, it is the same thing with Halo 3. Both great games, so who cares?

[jinn]

quit crying over the graphics and lets talk more about the flaws of the game

[T_O87]

What flaws ? :P

[Tyrael]

Who cares. The game kicks ass and thats all that matters.

[tony]

i said it before. a game doesn't need to be 1080p 0r 720p to look great, but if you get a steady framerate like call of duty 4 provides, the results will be phenomenal.

[mistertwoturbo]

600p? oh well, they had to do SOMETHING to run it at 60fps.

or just get a upgraded PC and run that baby at 1920x1080p@60fps all day.

[Gothdom]

I mean, I read at least 5 or 6 articles about some game not being in true HD.

SO WHAT? Are the games fun? Do you like to play them? Is pacman really in it's true resolution? Gove it a break, we need companies to do better games. I think Dead Rising, Halo 3, Heavenly Sword and Assasin's Creed could all have been better. Uncharted goes in the right direction, it's fun, it's awesome, but it's not enough... yet, next year we might see some news about some upcoming game in 2009 that will destroy all those games.

[OOG FunK]

yeah this is basically an article to toss in the PS fanboys faces..since they were so quick to react to a game like halo not havinf full hd but uh o now the beloved game cod4 doesnt and they shut their mouths and will go o yea o yea KZ2 looks better then cod4...........

Lets wait till that comes out b4 u count your eggs because it could look pretty in the end and still be a peice of crap....unlike cod4 which is pretty and fun and does it all at omg 600p that is jus horrid...... right....so I am gonna go play cod now cuz its awesomeness x 10

[Hypnotic]

For something that isn't "true HD" the game still looks amazing.

[Bladestar]

What do you Sony fanboys (Specially DJ) have to say on your defence about this? How many times did you flamed Halo for not being what you so call True HD? COD4 is probably the best PS3 game in terms of graphics and gameplay... and yet does not even match the resolution of Halo.... Great game indeed... Crazy isn't how you allow a company like Sony to brain wash you into thinking that next gen gaming is all about resolution... yet developers making the greatest games don't bother wasting resources on resulution because they know you will not tell the difference... Someone would to tell you that this game was running on 1080P would you tell? That's exactly how important this whole resolution thing is... non-existant... only Sony fanboy cared about this.. because Sony told them to. uhh... you need HDMI... uhhh you need 1080P.... do you guys see what microsoft meant when they said that 1080P is not needed? do you still think that 1080P defines next gen games?

Sadly Sony fanboys will never admit this... though themselve can't tell the difference.. they will still talk about 1080P... though can't recognize it unless told...

And that laddies and Gens... is how Sony got a bunch of people to pay $600 for their console... lol.

[mistertwoturbo]

actually, sony got people to pay $600, $500, or $400 for the PS3 for MGS4, GT5, FFXIII, FXIII Versus, and God of War 3.

Those 5 titles alone, will be worth every penny spent on a PS3.

[PimpHandHappy]

im playing Uncharted as we speak and this game is a stunner. I think a game has already surpased COD4 in terms of look!

9.5 on both Uncharted and COD4 thou

both awesome games

[andy001]

Surely you purchase the console for a whole bunch of reasons, and not only because of a resolution figure. I am happy if the resolution is 480p or above as that is higher definition than the previous generation. As long as the game looks good, plays smoothly, and offers something interesting over and above the previous incarnation then I am a buyer.

Sony didn't need to do much to persuade me to spend over $800 on my console (in the UK we earn more than you Americans you see :o) ) but when they include the High Def movie player, the Wifi, the better backwards compatability (on the 60GB model), the rechargable controller, the easily replaceable hard drive, the free online play, the sleeker looks, the better connectivity options (HDMI), the superior sound facilities, the ability to play SACD, the inbuilt power supply, the slicker disk loading feature, the better user interface, the more sophisticated settings menus, the connectivity with the PSP, and the memory card reader, it starts to make my $600 xbox 360 look very inferior, very inferior indeed, especially when you add $120 for wifi, $50 for converting the controllers to rechargeable, $300 HD DVD addon, and $80 for playing online, all because MS want to give me 'choice' LOL.

[Chubear]

SO you guys are comparing the technical quality of a multiplatform game to a franchise multimillion dollar exclusive falgship title? Wow, that trully shows how crap halo3 is.

[SOLDADO206]

sony is full sh..,but so are sony fanboys...This is probably their best game

[ThaGeNeCySt]

these "HD" games have yet to look better than what my regular tv gives me when I watch it, and that's 480i... all this resolution crap means nothing.

[gnothe1]

good one bladestar, its amazing how now there saying no big deal the game looks good, but when the story was about an xbox 360 ONLY game it was such a big deal!! i dont know how many stories were posted about halo 3 running in 640 an they were chuck full of sony fanboys waiting to take their shots at this!!

And that laddies and Gens... is how Sony got a bunch of people to pay $600 for their console... lol.
sony is good for that type of crap!! they talk SPECS, almost all first party games are hyped by specs not game play. 1080p, 60 fps, 2 gig levels,blu ray, hdmi, standard HDD, what about talking about HOW the game PLAYS!! they talked specs an basically destroyed the dreamcast before the PS2 launched!!

[Salvadore]

Once they were given a decent game, they simple say it's "okay" or "the game still looks good"... this makes me sick and I cannot believe some people.

P:S I dont really care if this game runs in HD or whatever, I have it on my PC and I am totally fine about the graphics.

[Salvadore]

And what did people do, bash the sh1t out of the game.

[Chubear]

I mean... so what?!

It's a multiplatform game so what's the biggy? and for those silly enough to try and compare this to a franchise console flagship title like halo3, that's just daft.

Halo3 was an exclusive multimillion dollar console flagship game, that skimped on technical quality. Comparing it's technical qualities to a multiplat game like COD4 shows just how not so impressive it trully is.

[monkey602]

If this game can look this great and not be technically High Definition it makes me wonder at how amazing games will look in proper high definition when the true effort is put in.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

The Spinners, Spinoruski, Spinsters, Spin O Rama, The Spin Train, Spinsta, LOL PS3 fans spinning looking like fools (nothing new) What was that Droids? you don't care anymore, huh? Just "play the game don't worry about the graphics" you dumb sh!ts wern't saying that about Halo 3 a couple months ago, were you? Slap! right in your Sony loving faces. Can you taste that? it's sh!t, it was on the bottom of your shoes before you stuck them in your mouths. I should go back to your post and start quoting you idiots. AHAHAHA

[monkey602]

Despite what you may think not all PS3 fans bashed Halo. I'm a big PS3 fan and I'm also one of the people who doesn't care how many pixels are on screen in COD4. If you want to try quote me from before I say go for it because the truth is even I bought into the hype and got Halo 3. I even enjoyed the game.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

For all those who bashed Halo 3, you deserve every bit of this.

[BigKev45]

Big deal. Great game.

[FPS nut]

Seems to me some people realy need to start reading more about how games are made and what upscaling is. Some people see a number and start bashing when they realy don't even know what 600p or 720p means. Some do it because someone else in their camp is doing it and they end up looking like fools, like they are now. A little tip, do some research next time before jumping in blind.

[Mikey_Gee]

But .. your comment points to ALL CAMPS as far as I am concerned.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Humble pie for everyone but today some have had a little to much. Time to loosen up that belt and go take a nap and sleep off all that pie. LOL My only hope is some will learn from this, if at least one or two then I would be happy.

[Covenant]

As I've said before...I'm too busy playing the GAME to worry about counting pixels.

Doesn't seem to have affected sales one bit either...

[DARK WITNESS]

What, you mean this is not really a next gen game. i better stop playing it right now and go back to halo seeing as that is the technically better game and the real next gen game because it runs with 80p more then this !

what a bunch of fools !

After all the crap they said about halo, what's really funny is this is still the best game on the ps3 right now. A multiplatform 600p game beats all those sony exclusives that run in " real HD ", what a shame.

[Boink]

people who worry about what exact resolution it is are morons.

the games look good, and are fun to play. nuff said.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

"lol, this powns all hyped halo freaks, who spoke about 1080p. lol, idiots. 640p, lol, lol, lol, such a small resolution does the ps3 even not support." - Achira

"That is pretty sad when you think about it. The biggest game EVER(arguably) cant even run at 720p, which is their main competitors(ps3) LOWEST ALLOWED resolution. tsk tsk, Microsoft/Bungie." - spammy_nooo

"They really weren't kidding when they said they don't need 1080P for gaming. Hell appearently they don't even believe in 720P anymore either....

"LMFAO @ MICROSOFT... I love you guys. Its amazing how you have your loyals convinced. And they will defend this too and fight it all the way to the bank." - N4G-GAMR

"oh how the mighty have fallen... this game is good but if compaired to the hype its laughable, xbox's number one title in 640p." - mighty_douche

"so it seems us "360 haters" were right all along, it's nothing more than a 480p machine.

This explains the size of the 10mb EDRam chip which is only big enough to hold a 480p frame." - SofaKingReetodded

"lol....Man you 360 guys look bad now! grabs popcorn!" - shysun

"Well, we have a TRUE next-gen console, not a microsoft joke xD" - NaViTo

"Sorry to say, but all of the tricks MS uses will soon come to light, and they won't be able to compete with the almighty next-gen machine known as the ps3. You remember what happened to the dreamcast? Once halo fades, the red-ring box will too. What do you say now, the mart?" - 2paclives

"this is suppose to be the biggest game for 360 and this is what u bots get lol

640p - halo 2.5 - and a multiplayer getting their a$$ owned by warhawk which by the way ROCKS!!! " - ibleedblu

"it always gets back to the same thing... 360 = last gen" - gamehendge

"i think the main thing we learned in this thread is the complete and utter hypocrisy that is the 360 fanboys. All of a sudden this is no big deal, except if this were the PS3, then it would be a big deal." - harpua

"I don't know if it's just me or not, but all of a sudden, the xbox360 defenders are either all quiet, or not present. maybe their all playing halo 3 in all of it's 640p glory." - hac-hunter

"What did bungie do with that 20mil

If you want a true NEXT GEN shooter then get COD4 and after that Unreal3 and then after that KILLZONE2 with a bit MGS4 and a little of HAZE to mellow out

all run at 720p or 1080p" - Godfather

"if this was a ps3 game it would be crusified, just like any game isn't 1080p for ps3.

but i guess to the xbums that settle for anything, 640p is great" - scottie2521

"If bungie, the top 1st party devloper of MS, can't get there game to 720p then the 360 is basically done growing. The hardware is fully unlocked and there's going to be no games that look better than Gears or Bioshock or Halo 3." - mikeslemonade

"Are such hypocrites, if this were a PS3 game it would be the end of world.
But all of a sudden graphics do not matter.
No one said Halo3 wasn't a good game, we were simply debating the facts." - Violater

""640 is the sweet spot for next gen games."

a third generation game runs lower than the SWEET spot.how can that be?

either 360 is being pushed to it's limits with halo3 or

microsoft spent 50 million advertising halo3 and 10 million making the game.that was the budget.halo fans were going to buy it anyway even if it was 480p.

just wow.what next? 1D graphics at 10fps with HDR for 4th gen games on 360?

mag lev..................." - mag-lev shadow

"The biggest game on the x360 is barely next gen.

but what xbois claim a 4.5 game supports 1080p and 7.1 sound.

Lair > halo 3." - Shaka2K6

"I thought this game was going to kill the PS3 forever. What happened? Before you guys call this a PS3 killer, maybe you should wait for a while until you discover all the bugs in this game.

No wonder they say this is Halo 2 in HD. At least it got a lot of high scores from unbiased reviewers (ahem, Dan Shu, ahem and all those that received the $800 bribe/gift bag, ahem) and that's what really counts, right?" - Cheech

"NEXT GEN GLORY...hmm not yet" - BubblesDAVERAGE

"hahaha, man, yep that's microsoft's star title leading the way for their next gen console. So this 640p thing is what, no.8 on the list of problems with Halo 3? Of course along with, crap story, crap ending, crap graphics and generally being a Halo 2 clone in HD...oh, OH NO it's not is it!

Halo 2.5 in HD 1.5 - Finish the fight, recieve a RROD as your achievement

It's almost hilarious how poor this game is, it's supposed to be Microsofts supergame, their last hope of crushing ps3.

But the bigger problem i have is the fact that despite the game has so many problems in it, problems reviewers have noted, reviewers have still given it 10/10, cos they basically caved into the pressure of it have the 'Halo' name on it. 10/10 is supposed to be a perfect score for a perfect game. Yet this game is far, far from perfect yet it recieves 10/10. Are reviews worth listening to? No

One last word...640p" - Shadow Flare

"You Get what u pay for. A piece of crap, filled with lies and shotty components. oh yea.. and PAY 2 PLAY Gaming.

Welcome This is Microsoft." - LiQuiFiedArt

[PS360PCROCKS]

Good job. I didn't have that patience, but these comments stand out.

"i think the main thing we learned in this thread is the complete and utter hypocrisy that is the 360 fanboys. All of a sudden this is no big deal, except if this were the PS3, then it would be a big deal." - harpua

"If you want a true NEXT GEN shooter then get COD4 and after that Unreal3 and then after that KILLZONE2 with a bit MGS4 and a little of HAZE to mellow out"

[Boink]

pure pwnage.

beautiful bubbles for u...

[OOG FunK]

lmao well that makes most of these guys look like the morons they act like in almost every post..... lol with the tech specs and other crap they dont know what the hell it means other then readin the box or a web site.

[Salvadore]

Right in their faces.

[Bladestar]

bubbles for exposing the lemmings!

[ozsman]

dude that was awesome

[Mikey_Gee]

What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

I love when Sh!t chucking comes back to hit you in the face.

[karlostomy]

Dude,

you have just earned a PHD in Sonyfanboy PWNAGE!

well done. oh and bubble.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Lmao!! I love cod4, but this is too funny. Let me look in my crystal ball and remember the bashing Halo 3 took and the "Hahaha HALO3 IS SH!TTY, IT'S NOT EVEN TRUE HD" and now it's for cod4 "Who cares the res, it's FUN!" gimme a break. What's funny though is the 360 has an internal scaler, the PS3 does not.

[mighty_douche]

how true it is! the comment below pretty much sums it up.

still, IMO the halo thing was understandable, 360 fans throw it at sony fans for months before its release, justing to constantly brag that they have all the AAA's with halo being the consoles crowning glory, the game to change games FOREVER. i find it understandable that when the whole res thing came out that sony fans jumped on it.
can you tell me the 360 fans wouldnt do the same if the tables were turned?

obviously it still wasnt right, but nor is trying to bash them for saying it in the first place.

this has been somewhat of a happy thread, lets try not to spoil it.

[Ju]

[HW scaler]...if true, I still would like to know how they do it. They'd still use a full SPU to do the scaling (which makes me wonder why not use it to do something else ? Vertex reduction, for example).

[ParaDise_LosT]

When everyone is humiliated, everyone gets along
Guess when the lights are out its less dangerous :D

Shame > Pride

[OOG FunK]

lmap funny bastard you are lol bubbles

[Neurotoxin]

Does that mean Call of Duty is rubbish because its not 720p?

Oh ok i will go and trade it in now and forget about the fact its one of the best games i`ve played all year... sigh

[mighty_douche]

ive already traded it, gonna hold the cash till Fatal Inertia drops, now thats a really >>HD<< game!!

;) lol....

EDIT: we all make mistakes, dont beat yourself up.

[Neurotoxin]

Your totally right, what a fool i have been spending my time playing COD4 when what i should have been doing is camping for Fatal Inertia outside game in Tottenham court road..... I have brought shame upon myself.

[Wii60_FTW]

lmao. this is a complete joke. I know for a fact COD4 is 720p. there aren't scaler jaggiez at all like in Halo 3. This news is 100% bogus. period. end of story. COD4 is the greatest shooter of all time.

[The BS Police]

Halo 3 and COD 4 are less than 720p?

Whats your point? That Real gamers could careless about the resolution, aslong as the game is fun they will keep playing them?

I thought so.

[Schmitty07]

QFT

[fury]

What does it really matter if the game is even so visually stunning and a great experience. Just enjoy the game and stop the nitpickery. Some people seriously need to get a frickin life.

[Mikey_Gee]

I really don't care what the official pixel count is. The game looks FUKN AWSOME and runs smooth as silk.

Same dinks that bashed games like Halo3 and other fantastic looking games. If a game to the eye looks un-fricken-real and funs so smooth, than what is the issue??

So pixel counters ... get over yourselves. You are more anal than a AAA porn star.

Hmm, maybe I should trade in COD4 now that I know this. Oh wait a sec, THE GAME IS STELLAR so what does it matter. IF anyone out there is stupid enough to NOT BUY A GAME due to some pixel nerd doing a count, well then you really are missing out on some very very good games.

I guess if I want to be sure to get the full res, I could go out and spend a few thousand on a nice games PC ....... but I have better things to do with my money. 600p on my 61" 1080p HDTV that makes me drool will do just fine thanks.

[ChronicOsmosis]

Call of duty 4 is one of the best looking games available on either console (if not the best), HD means nothing its the art direction thats important.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

the game looks great no matter how you cut it.

[ApocalypseShadow]

since you wanted to look up every post on halo3,(i hope you have a life)and posted mine,i'll respond:

it's not just about halo3 hitting 640p,it's the fact that NONE of microsoft's top games can achieve 1080p native with tons of things going on after the 1080p FIRMWARE UPDATE.but ps3 games CAN achieve 1080p with more going on because it was built to do so.and it's happening more often on ps3.a few games out of ps3's lineup,would be compared to almost ALL 360 games that are not 1080p.the point is,ps3 can achieve higher resolution with more going on screen.

not only that,the supposed power in xenos and the 10mb of extra memory doesn't explain the jaggies and bland backgrounds in forza2,the jaggies in halo3.just all these "JAGGIES in 2nd year 360 games."where's all that extra "ANTI-ALIASING we here the 360 is supposed to be good at?if making games for 360 is EASIER than ps3,how come games releasing on 360 are not 1080p?or getting better?increases in jaggies is not BETTER.lowered resolutions is not BETTER.

not just that,but no 360 games from MICROSOFT,and ALL THAT MONEY,should be getting beat by third party games.sony is not allowing third parties to show them up graphically.why is microsoft getting trashed?

these guys can test every ps3 game.won't matter.ps3 is still doing things like raytracing,deferred rendering,bigger effects and achieving higher resolutions more often.

does graphics matter?no. i could play tetris or pac man all day.but it's the 360 fanboys that care more than ps3 gamers on graphics since most 360 gamers are PC graphics whores that gravitated to 360.because it's easier without having to upgrade with expensive cards.the same graphics whores that had xbox and were comparing it to ps2 are the same graphics whores who own 360.i'm just providing a counter to the FUD that 360 fanboys spread about ps3.

my point is,a system that releases one year later is going to have more power.which anyone with a brain can freely admit without being a fanboy that ps3 is more powerful.and games on ps3 have proven that.but i could careless being that it comes down to FUN anyway.if you are having fun with 360 games,that's fine.but it doesn't mean 360 is a more powerful system than ps3 when it hasn't PROVEN it IS.even the "MIGHTY" gears of war has fallen to games like uncharted that has more color and more detail.

i'm done.time to go eat with the family.

mag lev....................

[Mikey_Gee]

This article is not comparing either console or graphical power of either. You are letting yourself get baited into the flame bait war.

And does this not apply to both consoles?? If not, why is it listed as news for both the PS3 and the 360 ??

http://forums.gametrailers....

[ThaGeNeCySt]

I didn't have to look up every post about Halo 3, they were all in the same article... all i had to do was scroll, copy & paste, took less time than you actually typing out a defense (You didn't have to defend yourself anyway but i like the whole "i hope you have a life" thing followed by 8 paragraphs)

I don't get into the whole 360 vs. PS3 technical debates as I don't care for the number jargon nor ray tracing nor 12931x AA with HDR triple buffer lighting and ED-RAM with .01 Vertex Ram and yada yada yada.. just thought it was funny how the tunes have changed.

[Mikey_Gee]

.. one of the funnest parts was the IR view that was all in black and white. So really, graphically that was the least intense and I loved it the most.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

[OOG FunK]

funny since i seem to read more and more PS fanboys go after games about graphics and what not and im not pickn sides jus stating the truth here....you guys will jump at an xbox fans throat first chance u get but if youre proven wrong you try to spin your stories

[EasilyTheBest]

The Cell...

[Mikey_Gee]

"IT APPLIES TO BOTH"

http://forums.gametrailers....

So to both camps .. "get over yourselves"

[sjappie]

all the 1080p ps3 boys. How does it feel?

[Mikey_Gee]

I thought that with BOTH consoles having this awsome game, both sides eating some humble pie in regards to resoltion and both having pretty much identical review scores along with great multiplayer ... that MAYBE .. JUST MAYBE ... COD4 would have been a start to a bit of a "hand shake" between the 360 and PS3 hardcore fanboys.

I guess that idea will never see the light of day in this day and age.

I wish I could go back to my Atari 2600 days where all this hate on the web was a none issue and folks just played games to have fun regardless of what others were playing.

Now back to playing my crappy low-res COD4.

Cheers

[Athlon]

I noticed that this is from an OXM website. Where does it say that all versions run at 600p, including the PC? Didn't Infinity Ward say that each version was developed separately. I don't think most of you all read the article or blog. I'd rather wait for Infinity Ward to confirm or dispute this.

[Avto]

this sh*t is old news

[TheMART]

So PS3 fans say that 600p COD4 is allright

But a 640p Halo 3 with double lightshading, thus as hard as putting out double the 640p if you would view at it technically, would be bad?

You lost me Sony fangirls, totally lost me.

[felidae]

.. i love Halo 3 but COD4 looks 10x better than that. so who cares about 600p?

[no_more_heroes]

when it was halo 3 everyone bashed the fvck out of it, but now that its CoD4 no one gives a damn. I wonder why? Who would do such a thing? (hope y'all know what the word sarcasm means). How about this - from now on nobody bashes a game, no matter how insanely popular it is or if its exclusive to whatever platform, on this "true HD" bull$#!1 which I never believed anyway.

[tfur]

Too much turkey... I think I need to vomit...

Anyway, it makes sense that both versions would be the same. They decided to use the same assets. I would imagine they began with a solution/resolution that they worked with in the past, and went from there. Being multi-platform, requires that they use what works for both console versions.

I would expect games that are not multi-platform to be more tied to the hardware, and thus probably push the resolutions if desired. First party titles will always be better... Uncharted is 1280x720 2xAA... in 720p, and 960x1080 in 1080p. The 1080 was only added for old TV's that do not have 720p, otherwise they would be forced to use 480p...

In any case, COD4 is a good looking game, with some levels looking better than others... I loved the beginning, Ghilee (sp) level, A130, and the mini post nuclear bomb level, where you die... it looked like something from the movie Constantine when he would go hell... jaw dropping...

[Ju]

[...it makes sense that both versions would be the same...]

Why ? It runs on 640x480i as well and uses the same assets. The target resolution has nothing to do with it. You can virtually render any resolution and aspect ratio you like. The physical buffer limitation is only the boundary of the underlying HW. On a PC, e.g. you would simply let the application decide what resolution to render into - based on the specs of the HW. The assets should, obviously, be optimized to support the highest possible output resolution, scaling down is not a problem, its more visible using low res textures on hi res outputs.

BTW: Uncharted does some more tricks, like depth blur and real (!) motion blur if you rotate the camera (and dependent on the rotation speed).

[tfur]

1024x600 (600p) is the resolution used by the 360 in order to use the EDRAM. This is the maximum size that can be done on the 360, without tiling and having AA. In reality COD4 is based on the same assets (assets meaning, in terms of data structures sizes), and is based on a 360 memory structure of the EDRAM.

It's not really fair to compare PC card rendering, to console rendering. Console game are really only designed specifically for 1 resolution. And all assets are designed around that resolution. Any scaling up or down beyond the design resolution, is sub optimal...

And yes, Uncharted is a technical masterpiece. It deserves a quite a few technical achievement awards...

[Ju]

^^ What you say makes sense - in case for the 360. However, I doubt, that the design is used in a way, that data structures are based on the 360 EDRAM limitation (well, not limitations, but abilities). The same could be said, that you design data structures to make sure DMA can be done efficiently to support CELLs SPU SRAM (aehem, what, darn, 256KB, right?). If you design the backend in a way, then these data structures would reside in the low level platform specific code, and will NOT be passed thru into the asset management ("asset" in the sense of everything regarding data like textures, anims, sound).
Also, using the CELL efficiently requires more thought into data structures then e.g. simple C++ approach (and this start with the thread model). Whatever I say is speculation, but I doubt, that both machines use the same approach at their back end. A dual approach is possible, if both designs take the other one into consideration, but the implementation for each platform would be very specific (IMO). That said, the 600p makes absolutely no sense in case of the PS3. The only reason for a lower resolution is the bandwidth of the machine. The AA in both, the 360 and the PS3 might be completely different as well. Where you use the EDRAM on the 360, custom post processing (thru the SPU ?) is necessary in case of the PS3 - and here, the bandwidth comes back into play. You need to filter a frame @60fps. But this shows, that the render backend is most likely completely different, and thus, again, the 600p is (IMO) a "requirement" of that specific renderer.

[tfur]

I overdosed on turkey and pecan pie... And passed out...

So, yeah... my point was that the peculiar resolution of 1024x600 (600p) is completely a resolution based upon common 360 resolution. And that resolution has been known as the ~max that can fit in the EDRAM, and still have AA.

I would assume, the IW technical design team got together and found a common denominator to shoot for... this being 600p and went from there. Yes the 600p makes NO sense on the ps3, and somewhat shows what I am trying say... The ps3 has no frame buffer boundry based on that 600p number, it is totally a construct born from a 360 centric design.

You would not want to make 2 versions of a game, with differing frame buffer resolutions. This would require differently scaled graphics assets, differing sized data structures, it would bring a whole lot less portability between console versions. With a common output resolution, you can make most things portable.

I would definitely assume that the AA was put on a SPU, and I would guess the would also put most particle effects on them as well. I mean thats the luxury of the SPU's...

To me, the 600p is a design choice, that spawns from data size requirement of 1024x600 for the EDRAM on the 360. Otherwise, you would could go larger with no AA on the 360. Or go larger by tiling, and thus put a load negatively effecting the desired 60fps. It is possible putting the AA on the SPU could effect the fps as well, but I would not think by that much.

The 60fps is really not a constant 60fps, but rather a max fps, with frames v-synced for when the fps drops lower. But frames never drop too low to be very noticeable.

Who knows... I think IW did an excellent job, and deserves praise for making a game that is so incredibly similar on 2 differing architectures. I would never criticize IW for the 600p thing.

Excellent game...

[Ju]

I understand what you are saying and it might well be true.

I still do not agree, however, with your assumption you would base datastructures and assest around the target buffer resolution. I certainly wouldn't. That would imply, if you'd do a later PC port, you force that version to the same restrictions - which you don't.

Also, it does not fit into the PS3 specific (famous) 1080i (960x1080) specifications, which has a half-x aspect ration, and usually has nothing to do with the assets itself. The scaling is done by the texture mapping unit and its projection any way. No need to artificially "pre-scale" textures. They should have the max you can afford thru bandwidth limits. But that's it (and CoD has actually pretty low res textures, IMO).

Also, the resolution is an attribute of your data structures. You would never design a datastructure based on attributes (like hardcode around some data, if in fact this is a parameter). So, again, I have a hard time to believe, the 600p forces the layout of datastructures.

And then again, I agree when you say, the 600p is a limitation of the EDRAM buffer size, and maybe they used that to easily port code - and that makes perfect sense. It would be very strange (to me at least), if this would have been passed on to the PS3 version (for no reason, IMO).

[JokesOnYou]

Good post #27 Bladestar
Great post #40 ThaGeNeCySt

lmfao at sonykids, NOW its who cares, look at the hypocrisy, now because Halo3 is the "flagship title" it should have been at least 720p, what kind of f*cking logic is that, sony is the one who told you res is what next gen is all about,

NO the game should be 1 of the best if not the best games available for the 360, it should look great, it should play great, it should be alot of fun, it should have replay value, it should sell very well= check, check, check, check, check, and 1 more HUGE F*CKING CHECK,

its funny because NONE of you, including me know what res any game is in unless someone does a pixel test, so what does that mean, come on say it with me sonykids: "who cares!", there ya go lil kiddies I knew you could do it, wow both games look great, and except for the lighting COD4 looks better and its *LOWER* RES, oh no OMG!, how is this possible?, I bet if sonykids would have known this *before it launched they would have HAD to say how bad it looks, ha ha lmfao, you kids have No backbone, big time flip floppers,

riiiight, ya see NOW nobody cares as long as the game looks great, the fact is alot of other games including ps3 games are not in the typical hd res but most gamers dont give a f*ck what res a game is in as long as the dev's do a good job with what they have and the game kicks ass= so what game is played more online than any console game? yep, Halo3 but both games kick ass! wow, I love laughing at sonykids, bubbles for you ThaGeNeCySt

JOY

[TruthbeTold]

All of these threads about BR vs. HD-DVD, with people fighting tooth and nail over which one is better, how you can so easily tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p, and now we hear from the same crowd that it's no big deal that the top games aren't even in 720p, but "Who cares? We couldn't tell the difference until we were told." Can we now lay this ridiculous HD war amongst some on this site to rest? Oh how much nicer this site would be if we didn't have 10 stories a week arguing bs regarding the two HD formats, and us bickering amongst ourselves in order to try and assert our choice of console as justified, and superior.

Bottom lines: These games look great. Awesome even. Whatever console you bought, will not only survive this "generation" it will have plenty of great hits and exclusives for you to enjoy and feel good about. Whatever console you bought, you made a good choice, but if you have the money to do so, you should probably look into buying a competitor or two, so that you can enjoy all of the great stuff that will be out during these next few years. THAT is the heart of the true gamer imo.

[power of Green]

Quote from myself from the first Halo rez post..."If it looks better it is better!"

[xg-ei8ht]

Well uncharted is 1280x720p x2fsaa. Nice job ND.

Oblivion is at a higher res on ps3 with anistropic filtering as opposed to billinear on 360.

Just so you guys know, the Ps3 version of cod4 was not built from ground up. It was built at the same time, using 360 code, and yes they had to knock down res, due to the 360.

But hey, the game still rox.

[ApocalypseShadow]

the point mikey gee and thegenecyst i was making was this:

COD4 looks good on both system because infinity ward made sure of it.but as someone said earlier,the assets could have been the same for both systems.if the article is true coming from an xbox site.

but it doesn't prove that 360 and ps3 are same in system power even if the fanboys want to rally around this article.and there is a difference from having a FIRST PARTY game from microsoft hitting 640p and and a THIRD PARTY game from someone OTHER than sony hitting in the 600s.because all sony games are aiming for 720p/1080P.

while bungie,a first party dev,had to explain why they couldn't hit 720p for halo3,no sony first party dev has to explain why they hit 600 because no game so far is below 720p from sony.

as i said,ps3 games are achieving more because the system was built day one to do so.i just get long winded.

mag lev...............

[Primetimebt]

Coming from an xbox site I'm guess this is the 360 verison. Nowhere did I see the PS3 verison in the article, Correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe this is why the PS3 verison looks better than 360 verison. Could the DVD size be bring 360 to lower than HD graphics?

I almost willing to bet Mass Effect is under 720 as well. Since they said the entire game fit onto a DVD. This is Mircosoft new way of fitting games onto a DVD while using the upscaler to give it the HD effect. Face the facts the 360 is becoming the DVD upscaler.. Flame on

[ThaGeNeCySt]

it's both versions

[Statix]

This whole 60-fps excuse for the sub-HD resolution is ridiculous. I would MUCH, much rather have the full 720p resolution running at 30 fps than 600p (loss of over 300,000 pixels!!!) at 60 fps. I bought my HDTV for full HD resolution, period.

Too my eyes, 60 fps doesn't even look that good anyway. Did you know that every single movie you see in the movie theater only runs at 24 fps? Yet they look fantastic. This may come off as absurd or illogical to some of you out there, but people in the film industry generally prefer 24 fps to 30 fps for recording movies. Truth.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

play a good PC game with a corny graphics card.. juice up some of the AA and raise the resolution and play the game below 30 fps and tell me again that 60 fps isn't all that great... or better yet, play nba live 06 on the xbox 360...

you can achieve MUCH more fluidity and smoothness with 60 fps which is why nba 2k7 ran so much better than nba live 07 (offline) and why COD4 runs so much more smoother than Bioshock (excluding PC), etc... give me 60 fps @ 600p over 30 fps @ 720p and above any day of the week

[FiveShot Bandit]

the game is 'true' fun

[feejo]

Don't you get it, Xbox lead on game sale, so those who choose multi-platform game, have to lower the quality make it fit to a 5gb dvd. That is the reason that only exclusive will show true power of PS3.

[Takumi86]

well at least is not bad as HALO3 was

HALO3 has alot oof jaggies ther everywhere

COD4 360,ps3 jaggies as fix

[SDS Overfiend]

ITs True Gaming Greatness. Now Stop Trying To Find Bullsh1t on the f#cking game and Play it. It's Multiplat so what the Fuk else do you want?

You B1tches still care about was HD and whats not? Oh Please get a Fukin life.

[Grassroots]

I don't understand, if the game looks and plays great what is the problem with it? This goes for COD4, and Halo3 both look great, and perform great, should be ok right?

[Guwapo77]

The game's graphics are awesome regardless of the resolutions presented. The problem with the recent games coming out is... They are claiming to be HD on consoles performing at 720p and 1080i/p. This is rubbish... False advertisement at it's finest. The guys that discovered this in the forums are only trying to keep the publishers honest.

Basically if the game is only rendered in 600p don't claim its 720p. Just be honest with the consumers because the lies only hurt the devs in the long run. There are some smart cookies out there and will take the time out to find your lies.

[Ju]

Why would Joe Customer care, what resolution the game is rendered in ? What that means is, it runs on your HD TV, that's all. At least that is what I read. If you have an 720 or 1080 display, you know if that game runs on. Did anybody ever care, if a game was 480i/p before ?

It would be nice to have some confidence, it the games are truly running 1080p, but we can all agree, that the current "Next-Gen" consoles are not powerful enough to render a "Crysis-Style" game in 1080p @ 60fps. So, what does it matter ? I'm just more curious from the technical point of view. I still think there is some hope to up the res (at least on the PS3 - its just the first year, but the "960x1080" doesn't look to shabby (R&C @ full 60fps); 360 versions didn't really push into that direction after 2 years, though, but added more effects), but I wouldn't call that "false advertising". Demos and videos give you an impression. I am pretty sure people don't buy games because they have "720p" or "1080p" written on the box (real 1080, yeah, that would make a difference). As long it looks great and runs solid in HD, who cares.

[Guwapo77]

This isn't about Joe Consumer. Joe Consumer only cares about if the game looks good and it is fun to play...that's it. The hardcore gamer wants to know the true technical aspects. Would I like to know if the game performs and is rendered at what is depicted on the back of the box? Heck yeah! I love to know the technical advancements made over the previous generation of games. I don't wish to be misled/lied to thinking I'm getting a Nissan Skyline when in reality I'm getting only the Skyline body with a Nissan Sentra engine. Those from Beyond3d forums are some of the most hardcore gamers and computer geeks known on the net. They just happen to have a little more tech know how than most. They get down to the nitty gritty and past all the PR BS.

But don't get me wrong... in the end it's all about how fun the game is. It could be 480p, it doesn't matter. Just don't tell the gaming community it is more than what it really is. Because we will find out eventually.

There is a difference between Joe Consumer and the Hardcore Gamer. That is all I'm trying to convey and nothing more.

[ReBurn]

The output resolution of the game is 720p. What's in the frame buffer is not. What does it matter if there is some upconversion as long as the visuals don't suffer. So there is no more false advertising than buying a 60gb hard drive and only having 55gb of usable space after you install it.

[mario888]

It ststes that there are 135 comment butI only see 74.

[Guwapo77]

This is including the replies as well. Notice how my reply is 75.1.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Technically, the difference here is that CoD4 is 600p@60fps while Halo 3 is 640p@30fps (if I remember right), CoD4 also have better AA (that is for sure)... So, technically, CoD4 would be better. But still, anyone who care that much on this "technically" matter, would prefer to MAKE (since you think it's easy to achieve) than PLAY games...

I don't like Halo 3, always I can call it Halo 2.5 or Halo 2 HD (but I'm not up for Halo, I only liked somewhat the first, the second one already feel gimmick to me), but still HD. For me HD is above 480p (since it's the maximum SD definition), not from 720i or more...

And still, if it looks good, who cares?

[Danielson]

I'm not surprised developers are doing this, its takes a powerfully system to run these types of game in HD resolution, so if you want your rock solid 30-60 frames per sec. you might have to give up some pixels.

[Bonsai1214]

i agree that you might have to give up some pixels to gain consistent framerates, but i've made an observation:

it seems that games developed solely for ps3 usually run at "normal" resolutions natively. whereas multiplatform games have to give some ground. last time i said this, i got about 30 disagrees... but if you look at that list that people love posting around here, you'll see its true.

[Kill Crow]

a company that found it easy to program for the PS3 (when others have struggled) and had their best prgrammers etc working on it, couldn't mke it better than the 360 version - only the same .. and now to top it off they could only get it running smoothly at a frame rate(600p) less than that of Halo 3 on the 360 (640p).

Neither of them are true HD, but to be even less is unreal. The comment that stood out the most over last few weeks is that 360 development has peaked and that no further improvemnts will be see on the console.

Is this now true of the PS3?

[Funky Town_TX]

not that great, but it looks wonderful on my 1080p DLP and that is what matters. I don't care if it is 100p native.

[BloodySinner]

So where are all the Sony children who teased Halo 3 for being 640p (native resolution) when the majority of them don't even own an HD television? Oh? They're back in their holes? Yeah, I thought so too.

[S1nnerman]

Everytime. My only gripe was that on single player it was a tad short. But really, are we all just superficial? Some guys on here saying they could tell 'something was up visually' by just looking at their screens lol

Gaming is about just that. Gaming. Pretty graphics come second.

[Matpan]

And where did those spare 120 pixels went to? I want a refund!

Like some pixels would make a game less enjoyable... I dig COD4 wrether is full, half or 3/4 HD ñ.ñ.

[Baba1906]

who cares. it looks amazing.

[Antiomo]

When I bought the ps3 version and said it is not true hd (1080i/p)

I proved myself right when i compared my ps3 version with the pc version.

Fact is most console games xbox or ps3 ( they are upconverted) it dont matter if it display 1080i on the monitor

Its like saying upconverted dvd's are true 1080i/p

[ReBurn]

People are making something out of nothing again. Like somehow their lives can't be the same because some games are slightly upconverted to 720p. Sad, sad, sad.

[shysun]

COD4 is One of the best looking games out!Halo3 looks horrible, deal with it!

[caffman]

its the end of the world!
It ust really really suck to have a 300" screen that you might be able to tell that it wasn't "true HD"

[kalle]

360 and PS3 have the same res.... 600p

# COD4 (360) 1024×600p 2xAA
# COD4 (PS3) 1024×600p 2xAA

http://www.playstatic.com/n...

Sony retards in this forum is LOL:ish

# Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 600p - PS3
# Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 720p - 360

# GRAW2: 720p - PS3
# GRAW2: 720p AA 2x - 360

# Skate: 1536×864 - PS3
# Skate: 1280×720 AA - 360

[tordavis]

...anything above 525 pixels. While 720p is a standard used for broadcast television and movies, HD starts at resolutions above 525 lines. 480p and pal 525p are called EDTV or Enhanced Definition TV.

It's funny how PS3 fanboys made a complete UPROAR over the 640p Halo resolution and haven't said jack about 600p COD4 PS3 resolution.

[kalle]

when its about the PS3 they cant say anything, i guess 600p are a OK res now if you ask PS3fans.

:D :D :D LOL :D :D :D

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

I remember reading that the PS3's Nvidia RSX was equivalent to 2 6800 GT in SLI!
What the Fuuk happened here,If you cant even push 720p off of the beast then what is going on!!!!!
Im gonna assume this has alot to do with Limited RAM.on Both Consoles..
Again im really reconsidering not sticking with BS till they stop BS'ing us consumers with false! HD Hi powered,specs; when these games never atain this level, cause they cut corners on RAM and Crap......
If you sit close to the screen you will see that COD 4 and Halo3 look like lo res 800x600 games not very HD very blocky,to me..
The further you sit the prettier and smaller the picture ..not a good trade off not at all!!!!
They better figure way to do this right next time!!!!
Im waiting to see if Gran Tourismo is truly 1080p same with Metal Gear,and what sacrifices they are making!!!!
this is the deal breaker for me!!!!

We've all been Duped ,all been ,hoodwigged,lol