Some negative reasons as to why gamers are not being as excited about gaming as they should be.
Things are indeed not looking so rosey compared to years past.
Batman Arkham City Portal 2 Xenoblade LittleBigPlanet 2 Forza Motorsport 4 Gears of War 3 FIFA 12 NBA 2K12 MLB 11 The Show Dead Space 2 Deus Ex Human Revolution Dark Souls LA Noire Dirt 3 Mortal Kombat Crysis 2 Infamous 2 Bit. Trip Complete Killzone 3 Resistance 3 The Last Story Pandora's Tower Ni No Kuni Rhythm Heaven Marvel vs Capcom 3 Lot of great games already released this year(I didn't even count handheld ones), gaming is as strong as ever! And so many games still coming this year(Again, excluding handheld): The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword Star Wars: The Old Republic Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 Battlefield 3 Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception Assassin's Creed Revelations Saints Row: The Third Halo Anniversary Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 Sonic Generations Kirby's Return to Dreamland DOTA 2 The Elder Scrolls V - Skyrim 2011... The one of the best years (if not the best ever) for gaming!
DUDE Skyrim whats up with that??? update that and also add MGS:Collection
"5 reasons why gaming is going downhill" 1 msxbox-world.com 2 Crappy Game Journalism 3 Articles that are useless lists 4 Websites that use titles for hit generation 5 Casual gaming
I am seeing a helluva lot of sequels there... I know developers are playing it safe but really... innovation for most of them is something hidden in a box covered with nuclear spiders on the dark side of Mars.
Bubs to you Morganfell someone need to do an article "5 reason game journalism has gone down hill"
I don't think the argument is that there aren't good games. The problem is, legitimate customers are limited by online passes and "clubs", DLC rips us off constantly, the stealth genre is being pushed out by the "stealth-action" game, too few risks and too many sequels, etc.
@ dragonshardz I agree but when we do get new ips they're ignored by the majority of gamers outside of the internet and the things are lucky to sell 1m copies...look at enslaved and mirror's edge.
U mentioned some good games but ur missing the point nyanyan. Its the DLC and online pass.
dude how can you say this is possibly one of the greatest years of gaming when most of those titles are sequels and VERY VERY VERY FEW of them have done something no other games have done before. There is no more innovation. Besides, gamers like me miss those over creative fantasy games like the old 'Legend of Zelda,Final Fantasy ans adventure games. I think Twilight Princess was crap, cuz I didnt feel moved when the game ended and it was just another spinoff of ocarina of time. Final Fantasy 13 failed just because instead of feeling very sad the game ended like id feel with all of the other Final Fantasies, I was overly happy to finally finish that overly boring never ending game. I thik games are getting too realistic .. totally taking the fun away of being able to enjoy the things we were unable to do the things we couldnt normally do in rela life, taking away the joy of getting to perhaps live that life of that chance to live as that prince who's castle was attacked whilst he was asleep and his parents were taken away and he then has to go on a whole exiting journey to save his parents and meet new people on the way to help him save his land from the dark days ... I have lost faith in gaming. Just in case you people cannot remember, think CRASH BANDICOOT and the OLD SONIC etc etc ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~O~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How does listing a boatload of games justify the 5 points brought up in this article? That list doesn't mean crap, because out of all those games, I'll only be buying a handful. How come whenever someone criticizes the industry nowadays, there's always someone conveniently standing by with a massive list to shove in the person's face. Nobody had ever said that we weren't seeing tons of news games, that's not the argument... it's the overall experience that has declined, in many, sometimes not so big ways that certainly do add up.
... and you my friend, most likely unknowingly, just gave one of the largest reasons that wasn't featured in this article; Flooded Markets. The amount of game releases is becoming too much to bear for gamers. Also, Online FPS and MMO's garner-up millions of gamers each year, keeping these gamers addicted throughout the year; many of which, are gamers who used to buy multiple games each year. I've got no issue with the either of the genres at all, but the amount of releases in contention with the fact that so many gamers buy single games that last them months on end, equals an unsteady market where great developers will fail - even when they produce fantastic games (e.g. Disney Interactive, Bizarre Creations, etc.). I for one have a long list of "to-get games," but being a game reviewer, I just don't have the time anymore. Ace Combat: Assault Horizon, Bulletstorm, Crysis 2, Portal 2, Rage, Dark Souls, Forza 4, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Bastion, Donkey Kong Country Wii and Bit Trip Complete are but a few that I want to get too, but you've got so many title coming out too, that it's impossible to get to them all anymore.
SMH... please read article b4 posting!As AdmiralSnake mentions nickle and dime dlc such as Catwoman not being available in Batman AC which is apart of the main campaign unless you buy new or dlc it for 10 bucks is the basis of the article. I for one gamefly cuz I cant afford to buy all of said amazing games new, w/o such a service I would miss out on many a great games. I get it but dont feel its right to gamers on a budget.
i'll tell you why the article fails....because it's absolutely right. the reason the gaming industry is so profitable is because we live in a time unlike any other. a time where people are MORE attracted to the most mundane, repetitive, cliche experiences you can have. i haven't seen a good movie in years. there are almost no modern bands worth listening to. the early - late 90s was the last time we saw any attempt at creativity in the music industry. and in gaming, we've gone from fun, memorable, replayable experiences, to the same crap we've played a hundred times. the most popular games are the biggest perpetrators. the game that sells the most every year is the game that hasn't taken a single risk since the middle of the last decade. nintendo has built a billion dollar corporation around reselling the same half dozen franchises over and over. gaming is doing exactly what it's supposed to to make money in our instant gratification, smart-phone society, pander to the dimwitted majority. Won't be long til gaming is reduced to flashing a blinding white light and having a celebrity shout a random swear word every time we push a button. and we'll sit there and giggle at that for hours while sucking down gmo foods and chugging aspartame-filled, carbonated beverages.
... all those great games you mentioned would be even better without all the DLC and online-pass crap we have to put up with!
You forgot: Homefront Dead Island RAGE Bulletstorm Brink Duke Nukem Forever Bodycount
Couldn't agree more with what Morgan said really. I was just gonna say something similar, gaming "journalists" are what is dragging gaming downhill these days, especially all the hit seeking websites.
-People want more than a toy, people want an interactive experience -People want actual levels of depth in their games more so than high contrast blood, gore and swearing -We're finding new ways to render in real-time that doesn't involve expensive machinery So yes, in a way, gaming is "DYING" (GASP). But in reality, it's growing beyond what we thought was previously possible ^^
But at what cost? Because development costs are getting higher, game publishers are avoiding risks and creativity is at a loss.
@jio Its because innovative games tend to sell less, and who's fault is that? its the consumer for always buying the same crap they dish out....
@jio I disagree. The online marketplace(psn store, wiiware, xbla) provides an outlet for creative devs to work without the hindrances of physical distributions on the consoles. Games that never ever would have come to consoles any other gen can find life there. Physical and digital distribution insures we can enjoy a variety of experiences. One would be foolish to think masterpieces like Braid, Joe Danger, Echonocrome and so many more would ever make it to home consoles had it not been for digital distribution.
Nah, it's dying when it comes to creativity, originality, immersion and uniqueness. I agree that the tech has gotten waaaaay cheaper and any Joe-Nobody can make a game for free that looks like it's worth $1 million bucks. The problem is that all the fancy-schmancy tech is being under-utilized on some of the most brain-dead games I've ever played. Most games have a 5 minute learning curve and the pinnacle of the gameplay experience is climaxed at the 20-minute to one-hour mark. In that regards, yes, gaming is dying.
Are you having a laugh?? Games have never been so good, it's the gamers that are going down hill !
Exactly (this ridiculous article is right for one thing : higher expectations months after months) " Sure, games like RAGE and the aforementioned Gears 3 are pushing graphics boundaries" the blogger forget to add "on xbox"
"Have never been so good..." For 14 year old retards and people with ADD. Not everyone enjoys pretty looking mundane games like Rage. What's worse is that games like System Shock, Soldier of Fortune and Hidden & Dangerous run circles around these newer games when it comes to gameplay options, immersion and playability. But most gamers wouldn't know anything about that since they're only used to playing whatever is force-fed in their face.
Like everything that gets popular, it gets watered down. But because its a more active industry it has the potential to create gems mixed within a bunch of garbage. Gaming is just going through an akward phase since gaming being mainstream is a new thing. 10-15 years ago being a gamer was taboo if you weren't a child, now your cool if your an adult who plays COD.
Big reason: $$$ People can't afford all this ----
if gaming is dyig then y is sony and MS fighting for the masses and ther money.This international and multimillion companies are not going to be betting on the wrong business,technology is proven gaming is the future of entertainment .
first of all we saw success from 3 different home console makers compare to last gen where ps2 was the king. Wii did something different and succeeded xbox360 after the 1st xbox is a huge success sony with ps3 has made the biggest strides because they were the ones who needed the biggest wake up call in history of gaming. competition is a great thing and this gen has shown us that. I don't like DLC but if you look at it in a way dlc does the job after you are done with your game so if you are interested in let's say mass effect universe chances are after playing the main story you can get the dlc and enjoy the game universe more but than again there are companies like capcom and activision who will rip the gamers apart with their rip off deals and lazy efforts with RE4 hd. resident evil 5 on disk dlc that we had to pay $5 for if we wanted to play it, now granted $5 isn't that much but still if its on the disk i already paid for it activision does not rip off the core gamers in my opinion their targets are the casual gamers who buy madden and COD every year I think more than anything this gen will help clear the path for what could be a amazing next gen if done right and if not rushed by either MS or sony. We don't need xbox720 or ps4 till atleast 2014, when games like uncharted 3 and gears 3 are proving that great looking/playing games are possible on current consoles wait more now and make a bigger jump tech wise for next consoles or all we will get are new names for consoles yet very small differences peace out
msxbox-world.com that's number one reason useless articles /flamebit articles for hits /an xbox site talking about ps3 ?!and attacking all it exclusives ..etc and "Sure, games like RAGE and the aforementioned Gears 3 are pushing graphics boundaries" you mean xbox of course
My main gripe is the DLC, which I should have know would be milked, but didn't see it becoming as bad as it is. The online passes don't bother me though, as I buy all my stuff new, and in my opinion, it is more there to help the developer cut into used game sales.
i dont really care, i just waiting for neural gaming and virtual reality thing
You wil be waiting a long time and miss out on at least next generation and probably the one after that. Its your choice though.
They forgot to add "reviewers always give high score to hyped games". Last gen even the best games had a hard time getting a high review score, now every other hyped game gets a 10/10.
Spot on. I bet Modern Warfare 3 will score a bunch of 9s and 10s even though it's the same thing over. You know what's crazy though? All during the PS2 era we rarely had any game, franchise or genre that was milked. It seemed like each and every year we got something grand fantastic that pushed the limits one way or another. It's been the complete opposite this generation.
Gamers complain way too much. This year has been one of the best I can recall in a long time. Cry all you want about DLC and online passes and not enough new IPs, bottom line is there have been a lot of AAA games this year that have been a blast to play. If you disagree, then you're simply jaded to the medium and you should find yourself a new hobby.
That's partially true, but of those AAA experiences, most if not all have been similar to what we've had in previous years. Core gamers tend to say every year is awesome for gaming or the best yet yadda yadda.
I think gamers do complain too much. A lot of the focus this gen has been more about competition between consoles, games or graphics to really focus on the actual game. And it's too bad because a lot of people hate games without giving them a chance.
Agreed. So much negativity & one-upsmanship among gamers sometimes. Lots of pretense among .com writers too. Sometimes the best thing to do is just stay off the internet for a few days and buy a good ol' fashioned magazine, lol.
Schlanz is right (one of the best, but better if you have a ps3 for sure) nostalgic people complaining about originality are not serious, curious, or don't have the right "toy", most of the free to 10$ games are better and more inovatives than old consoles and arcade games today...it's a fact (and don't even try to compare the best games today, and 10 years before)
What a louse. I'm sorry you're a moron. Name one game under $10 this gen that's equivalent to Soldier of Fortune? Name one game remotely similar to Omikron? Name one game under $10 this gen that's equivalent or better than Codename: Eagle? Name one game this gen remotely similar to Hidden & Dangerous or Whiplash? You can't name one game BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXIST. Gosh, grow up first before making idiotic comments, or at least do some research. The people complaining are thoroughly justified in their arguments, you sir, are not.
I don't mind DLC as long as they release a complete game on the disc first.
Guys, for those that don't know: msxbox-world.com is a garbage site looking for hits. The title of this article and majority of things posted on there are to attract comments and visitors.
I remember the good old days of the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation. Those were good years, every kind of game was available, now it's just FPS. I don't mean to complain, I'm getting BF3, but I can't wait for the day when platformers become popular again instead of cookie cutter FPS's.
Couldn't agree more, well said. I miss those days too. I remember the real buzz around games like RE 4 or RE 1 Remake. Windwaker, MGS 2 and 3, Twin Snakes etc. Now we're stuffed with HD versions of old games. (sad face)
It's not "just fps" now a days. The top three contenders for goty (imo) are uncharted 3, arkham city and skyrim...and there's plenty of variety this generation...I've enjoyed numerous games over the last couple years that aren't fps.
online pass, locked content online pass, and "more accessible"....not very good examples you have there.
Amen mate! now times are when if game is not a shooter, it often struggles to sell much... there are lots of examples, sure there are some exceptions too, but not much.. I am very sad that games like Bit.trip saga/complete, Vanquish, Shadows of the damned, No more heroes, excitebots, sin & punishment 2 and a lot of more can't sell as much as those damn shooters.. (I love some shooters, but I rather will play rhythm heaven, metroid or a good platformer with zelda) .. :)
One thing you'll have to remember is that nothing will ever compare to "the good old days." WHy? Because you were probably a lot younger and easier to impress then, than you are now. At least that's the case for me. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy the games i've been playing because I do. It's just as I get older I enjoy deeper stories and deeper gameplay. And that's something I didn't really care about when I was younger. Regardless of all that, I still feel gaming is only going up, regardless of a few negative things that are going on.
This is something I posted here 1,105 days ago lol in respects to bioshock & all other hyped FPS's First off, I don't intend to offend anyone. Secondly, I've been a member here for over a year, I hardly ever post. Maybe I'm from the video game golden era or something, but things just don't seem right anymore. I grew up playing classic action/adventure/rpg games: Rygar, Metal Gear, Goonies 2, Zelda, Metroid, Bionic Commando, Sonic, almost every game you can mention from Castlevania to Super Mario Bros. I had most of the systems, NES, SNES & Genesis. Great games are great games, no matter what system they're on. Why is it that almost every other game has to be a first person shooter nowadays? I think the genre is good, but personally I've never taken a liking to them. Back in the days since Operation Wolf, FPS's were never my cup of tea. I'm not knocking FPS's, I just wanna know where are the good 'ol adventure games hiding at? There are plenty of AAA FPS's out there, don't get me wrong. I think developers should look back to the 8-bit & 16-bit libraries to see why the industry is as large as it is now. I speak as an adult gamer/consumer, I just want good games. I'm very tired of stuff that looks extra pretty, but plays extra ugly. They've become too pre-occupied in worrying how games look, instead of they play. Or as the case with the oversaturated FPS genre, developers put out a game that's very successful & they flood the market with reiterations of the same style of game. Damn near every coming soon hyped, anticipated game is a FPS. Like I said from the start, I mean FPS fans no harm. FPS's have actually grown on me a little bit, but still, I wish they'd stop forcing them on us. Give us a little more diversity, like we used to have it. Please, don't think I'm bashing FPS games. I probably never mentioned before that I own FPS's. I have way too many games, but never play them. I gave Resistance some play, Halo 2, Hitman 2, & Call Of Duty 4. I must now admit that, I can easily see for myself why this genre is so popular nowadays. The stories and the games themselves overall, were great. I think it's better for me to say that I just don't like the first person camera view. I can only imagine what those games would be like in third person. I wish developers would add a camera view option (ie. Hitman series). Maybe I'm being greedy! Lol Lol. But seriously though, an optional 3rd Person View would be a great way to introduce these good games to a broader audience, that otherwise wouldn't play them because we dislike the 1st person camera view.
I'd say gaming is fine. It's gaming journalism that is going, and already has, gone downhill. They created the hype and "graphics comparison" epidemic. Use flamebait and controversy to spark flame wars and trolling. And don't know how to score games anymore. Gaming has some of its own problems, but many are the result of the gaming media.
After starting on the commodore 64 back in the day all the way up to now; I must say that gaming is getting baetter. Yeah there are a lot of first person shooters but that's what the new generation wants. If you want different games they're out there they just don't get the shine. I never saw an ad on tv for 3-d dot heroes, demon souls, Dks (I may be mistatken??), Alan Wake, and other under the radar games. Yeah on blogs these games are talked about, but out in the outerworld they don't really see it. It's fps all day on Tv. Companies listen to dollars, stop buying the games that actually irrate you because you feel they're taking away from some other game you feel should be developed.
I've been saying this for the longest time, the crappy media and paid reviews, and fanboy wars about multiplat comparisons, are all to blame. And the people participating in those things are equally at blame. when a broken game like Gears 2 was getting universal praises to the point where gears 3 cant top it in reviews, same story with R2, vs R3, then every single COD game after MW4. Meanwhile Rachet and heavenly sword, and uncharted, and similar games are getting slammed with all sorts of nonsenses. Eversince i started gaming, I've never really on reviews, it's always been word of mouth for me, or what mut guts tell me, and I'm rarelu wrong, its the same thing for movies as well. Reviewers and the trolls who help them forget that their opinions are nothing more than that are killing sufficating the industry, while the real gamers suffer the consequences. Also how a game is on blu ray with lots of space, but still getting day 1 DLC is pure Robbery. And how the same versions of a multiplatformm game would get direfferent scores because of superficial differences, and fanboys accepted that, because it gave them amo for their agenda. In conclusion, reviewers, trolls/fanboys/ and the gamers who sits back and allows those bastards to still have a job and get paid for staling out gaming.
This guy sees us rolling he be hating :B
What other types of games should be made, if you think about the same games have been getting made ever since the dawn of time. Just a new skin on them
DLC is a double edged sword. I personally think it helps me get more out of a game but also drives the developers to leave things out on purpose. But gaming isn't going downhill actually it is on the rise.
This has actually been my favorite generation of gaming. Tons of great games and new IPs, Uncharted, Gears, Infamous, Assassins Creed, Resistance, Bioshock, La Noire, Red Dead... I don't buy alot of DLC and i don't ever feel as if im missing out. Its usually just hashed out side missions and crap. I'll buy expansions like Undead Nightmare, Festival of Blood... but thats really it. Online passes don't bother me because i dont buy used games. And when it comes to recycling games and slapping a new name/number on it, if its good and alot of people like it...if it aint broke don't fix it.
Gaming is still great but I will always remember late 90s/early 2000s as the best: MGS1, Shenmue, Tony Hawks, Deus Ex, GTA3, Zelda OoC, Goldeneye, Resident Evils, Gran Turismo etc Those were the days!!!
Gameing is not going downhill end of discussion.
As technology grows, gaming will also grow. Its not going anywhere I can promise you guys that! Just an opinion piece to spark up conversation.
gen before was the best for me.. Zelda: twilight princess, Resident evil 4, RE:0, REmake, Metal gear 2 & 3, Conker: live & reloaded, Beyond good & evil, Silent hill 2 - 4, Haunting ground, viewtiful joe 1 & 2, God Hand, Okami, Zelda: wind waker, Rhythm heaven DS, metroid prime 1 & 2, fahrenheit, burnout 3 & 4, shadow of rome, luigi's mansion, max payne 1 & 2, riddick and more...
Of course, this is msxbox-world's view, since they have nothing but Kinect games to look forward to from now until the next gen. It is fun to have deep nostalgia about the old games but actually try and go back to some that were favorites and the biggest impression is how primitive the technology was back then.
What people seem to be ignoring are the points raised and focusing purely on the great games that have come out or are about to. No one here is mentioning all the mediocre and uneventful games that make up the bulk of games in this industry. For every AAA game there's ten or more average games - but gamers can be blinkered if they don't buy the average games, and all they care about are the big hitters - of course your gaming viewpoint is going to be distorted and everything is just rosy. What seems to be happening is the big franchises are surviving, and the lesser ones or new IPs falling along the wayside, to the point where anything new is such a massive risk that for a number of publishers it's a risk they are no longer wanting to take. That's a pretty sad scenario for the gaming industry to be left in. Splinter Cell went action to cater to mainstream. The forthcoming Syndicate turned first person shooter to suit the masses. It's painful. But this is the best years of gaming because a load of games that YOU like are coming out. The rest are just filler that you couldn't care less about.
Agreed. Everything is turning into a first person shooter these days.
I believe it's because games cost more to make this gen than any other gen, and because of that Publishers can't risk making a game that does bad so they only make games they know will do good.
I remember when there where less FPS games... Which was a great thing. I don't mind shooters, but that seems to be all western devs make. That or shotty sword games like The Cursed Crusade. So many shooters is what has the market in a stranglehold, and because of that all main "characters" are shaved head military men. I hold nothing against those who serve in real life. But I don't want every game to be about them.
FPS games suck nowadays. Back then not many games have regenerative health and checkpoints. Nowadays the game holds your hand throughout the story because that is how developers can make the game accessible to the masses that suck at games to begin with. After all, idiots are where the money is at, not gamers with actual skill. It's really pathetic.
1. The once abundant jRPG genre is now a rarity 2. Short, buggy, and linear cookie cutter AAA blockbuster shooters 3. Motion controls being the next "best" thing 4. Developers and publishers eliminating their founding fanbase for a new, larger fanbase of pea-brained idiot masses that suck at playing video games, and constantly need to have their hand being held throughout the story 5. Record breaking failure rates
1: a the budget has gone up, so the list has shortned as who can produce, not to mention mobile play has killed a lot of longevity in games, short and fast and action has taken over, the "quick fix" game life is apon us and I am not a big advocate 2: with patches now, they cheat as and put out half @ss products to meet deadlines knowing they can fix it later 3: lame for us medium to hardcore fans 4: agreed 5: agreed