IGN reviews yield a lot of negative comments. Here's how they make the reviewer feel.
what haters ???
Same thing happened when Arkham Asylum got released - so many people just started with the 'he got paid off to give it a good score' bullocks and a lot of people simply boycotted the game becuase they didnt want to accept it was going to be good. While there are less 'paid-off' claims this time around (still some...), people still dont like to accept a different type of game.
In all fairness the Arkham Asylum claims were justified. Gamesmaster magazine were in the centre of fire for it as well. On topic: You're always going to get hate comments for any review, it's just part of the gig. Videos like this don't really help. If they had scored the game low, loads of people had complained. If they had scored the game a ten loads of people would have complained. And with this score, you guessed it, loads of people complain. Ain't the internet fun?
Haha, yeah so true. People just love to have a problem with something - anything - everything.
nobody hates on Batman
Eidos's PR firm was caught trying to persuade reviewers to hold off on posting negative reviews for a Tomb Raider game, and don't forget Eidos is the company behind the Kane and Lynch Gamespot fiasco. So suspicion isn't exactly unjustified. Publishers put a lot of pressure on review sites/mags. Look at how many 9s and 10s we see compared to last gen. So what happened? Are developers now "perfect" at creating games? Did the gradual increases in technology just BLOW the reviewers minds and they still can't get past it? Oooooor, did a rapidly growing industry with a saturating amount of games demand that publishers start pushing "better" games, thus leading to pressure to get more 9s/10s? I won't be shocked or horrified if a publisher were to be caught directly threatening, paying, or pressuring a site for a high score. I'd be like, 'Well it would have gotten an 8.5-9.5 anyway' Oh, and seriously IGN? You big babies. How long have you been around? How can you be so upset about some negative comments? You've been getting plenty for years! Let it go.
Nevermind, I get which "haters" they were addressing now
I believe Greg Miller said they were taking heat for 'only' giving it a 9.5. He said people were accusing them of being scared to give it a 10. Basically, people are idiots.
Eh, it ain't nothing new. Just yesterday people here we're complaining about Destructoid for "only" giving the game an 8.5. Don't know where people get that mentality that a reviewer MUST give a game a certain review score to make people happy.
gamers have become real selfish and demanding even when anticipated games score 8.5-9 they feel they where cheated and demand way more. Its just a number people everyone has their own number to a game
It's always like that with big releases. Just wait till uncharted 3 is out, if it's anything like 2, some people will cry that reviewers were paid by microsoft whenever the games gets 9 or less (or even 9.5 in the case of uncharted), even though they still haven't played it. Those people seem to forget what getting a 9 out of 10 means.
People want cheerleading. They don't want reviews. They want to be told exactly what they want to hear, regardless of whether or not they've even PLAYED THE GODDAMN GAME.
Haters in the IGN comment section of the Arkham City review.
I was in that crowd! :D
Cool. Story. Bro!
I'll tell you wat a gamers worst nightmare is! Playing dark souls and realizing you gotta #2 brewing'! Lol
lol that certainly is not a comfortable situation.
Oh man. I remember when I was playin Demon Souls against the tower knight and I had to piss really bad. Was about to grab a cup of the table...
no game deserves a 10, no game is perfect. Except for maybe MGS4 : )
In my opinion a "10" doesn't stand for perfection, but for the very best a game can offer in that particular genre at that time. In other words, I could definitely hand out a 10 to several games. Take Half-Life, for instance. In my opinion that game still offers the best experience in the genre, therefor earning a 10.
couldn't have said it better myself. +bubs
Half life? Really? That game is not as good as people make it out to be. Just saying.
Did you not read Zidane's comment??? He said "In my opinion a "10" doesn't stand for perfection, but for the very best a game can offer in that particular genre at that time. " At the time Half Life was the Holy grail of FPS games.
"In my opinion a "10" doesn't stand for perfection, but for the very best a game can offer in that particular genre at that time." YUP, a 10 isn't perfection, it just means that the particular game that got the ten set a new bar in the genre at the time it released.
I agree. That is why I like Xplay's reviews. It's a 1-5 Star rating. Just means Poor, Mediocre, Good, Great, Excellent. A 4/5 is an 80% which obviously not what they are saying, just that the game is great but not among the best. I personally don't like that review scores get added together as if it's some real grade. Getting a 10/10 or 5/5 just means it's among the best game on the market, not that its comepletely flawless. I do have to say if a review uses a 100/100 system, no game should ever receive a perfect score. That point system should never allow people to give a game a 100 since no game is perfect. I have seen some titles receive that and I wouldn't agree that any game is 100% perfect.
A bubble for you man. That is the only game i would ever give a perfect 10 out of 10. Best game ever made. And i play a lot of games. Pretty much every AAA title and then some not so good games, and then indie games. But yes. MGS4 is the best game of all time. And has nothing in it wrong or that i would switch.
MGS3 is the best MGS and imo the best game ever made. Actually MGS4 to me was a disappointment because after MGS3 i was expecting much more.
@Imalwaysright: I must admit, MGS4 isn't my favorite in the series either. I wouldn't call it a disappointment though. But for me, MGS1 is my favorite in the series and what I consider a 10/10 game. :)
first thing i noticed is that Greg Miller said his 9.5 score was a "pretty good score." there lies the problem. 9.5= pretty good, according to IGN's very own Greg Miller. the people saying negative things on IGN are influenced by the site itself.
That's true, but at least he tried to back up his score right? Lol what am I saying, IGN is losin it big time. Review Preview's? I mean cmon seriously. 9.5 from IGN is a great score though and the review seemed pretty good to me. One of the better ones I've seen from them.
+ bubs exactly this is why people have a problem with IGN... the site made 7.5 a bad rating, anything below that is unbuyable and possibly unplayable to the IGN following. Look at God Hand a game trashed by IGN ended up flopping and is now a cult classic.....this is the reason why reviewers cant be given this amount of power, and its gamers giving them the power by letting their opinions influence what they play...
i believe he was being sarcastic.
Exactly what I was about to say. Sarcasm has a habit of flying over people's heads.
"He may not have meant "pretty good", literally" Yeah it was sarcasm obviously intended to get a rise out of people who have broken sarcasm detectors.
He may not have meant "pretty good", literally. Perhaps with a hint of incredulous sarcasm, as in "Really? 9.5 isn't good enough for you?"
game looks great and a bunch of nerds must not always be believed and listen to for opinion. 9.5 is amazing and i never expect any other game to receive a 10 when being critiqued by anyone.
Didn't watch the video... There aren't really any haters. There's just people canceling there preorders or not buying the game due to the online pass that is needed to be able to have cat woman in singleplayer, and part of the plot of the story...
If they had it preordered and were already gonna get it, y would it matter that it was gonna b an online pass kinda dlc? it wouldnt have anything to do with them.
The PS3 version has a 98 metascore so far... you can expect a few haters.
I remember the old days of the Playstation Magazine where any game that got an 8/10 meant that it was great and should be bought immediately. And even a 7/10 game was still considered "a good game with a few faults, but still worth checking out when you have the time". Nowadays, even a 9.5/10 is considered bad? WTF is wrong with people?! (I know that if I got a 9.5/10 on all of my university exams, I'd be THRILLED. I wouldn't be bitching at the lecturer for not giving me a perfect 10/10!)
Videos like this just feed the people complaining about these reviews. Put your review out there and say nothing. An extremely unprofessional move from IGN responding to this.
Problem is they've attached themselves to the Batman franchise, and not everyone wants to play as a pop-culture superhero. These people aren't haters, they just don't really like the idea of playing as a roided up batman. It's hard to imagine this game without the licence, would the scores be the same? I haven't played the new one, but the first one I would say - no the game wouldn't be praised as much.
i agree, As much as i liked B:AA and will like B:AC, i think the Batman license and the popularity of the Batman movies, fuels the success of this game as well. Rocksteady did a great job, but the batman Animated series voice work ( Mark Hamil and Kevin Conroy ) mixed with the Michael Keaton look of Batman (1989), brings out alot of Nostalgia and makes you like this game. If it was a new superhero ip like infamous or anti hero like prototype, i think its reception would be different as well
"It's hard to imagine this game without the licence, would the scores be the same? I haven't played the new one, but the first one I would say - no the game wouldn't be praised as much." The thing is, part of what makes the games so good is the history and lore behind it. You're not just playing as an original superhero like in Infamous or Prototype. You're playing as Batman. You're exploring Gotham City, you're defeating Gotham's baddies, you're doing everything Batman can do in the comics, etc. Sure, Arkham Asylum and Arkham City would still be good if they weren't licensed games. The gameplay and general atmosphere is still pretty good. But they would also be COMPLETELY different games- They would have different characters, different locations, different stories, different gadgets, and different history. The games would be unrecognizable from what they are now.
Seriously IGN Gives everything a 9.5 these days.
Personally, I don't find Greg Miller to be a very good critic or journalist, but the members at IGN sink so much lower. The dispute over scoring is ridiculous in general, and there aren't any gaming websites using the same critiquing methods. IGN basically created the "8.5 or GTFO" score ratio. That's not to say Arkham City doesn't deserve 9.5, it probably does, but they've given younger gamers and IGN members the impression that anything below that line won't suffice. I will be the first to admit that if I have a choice between the written review or video review, I go for the video every time. If a certain site has only the former, I check the score first. Both are probably the worst things to do in that situation. The video review (aside from gametrailers) is a truncated version of the written review. It misses some of the well rounded points made in a written review just to please the masses. Then members complain about the score, saying the review didn't seem as "negative" as the score suggests. The written review generally goes over these things. Then there are sites such as Destructoid and Edge. Publications that have different critiquing criteria that most people assume to be dragging the metacritic score down. Not the case obviously, and more often than not, people refuse to read the review, arguing about the score alone. They have pre-conceived ideas that the review should have scored otherwise. "[GAME X] shouldn't get anything less than a 9" is the typical reply. Opinions people, everyone has them. I digress. This gaming community needs to lighten up dramatically. One man's opinion shouldn't shape your own. People are getting annoyed over GAME SCORES. I sincerely hope they don't lose sleep at night because of it. That would just be sad.
Who cares wat number a game gets? If u like it, ur gonna buy it regardless. Do u only buy games that someone else gives a high number to? If so, you'd miss a lot of little gems in all the games ever made. I would rely on a number strategy myself, bc I bought RAGE. Its supposed to be all 9/10. I didnt like it. At all. JUST MY OPINION, no need to bite my head off. If u liked it, more power to you. Im just sayin, numbers dont mean squat.
Since when i care about the feeling of IGN reviewers..? You get paid by publishers to score the reviews... I don't look to IGN as a good website...The best websites for me are those who give me 999999999999 reasons about how good it is and 999999999999999 reasons about how bad the game is You shouldn't care about the reviews anyway if you like the game go ahead... reviewers hated Army of Two... i LOVED it co oping with my litle brother never had so much co op fun in my life
ITS NOT THAT ONE REVIEW WE HATE ITS YOUR ENTIRE SETUP! F IGN
The metacritic batman arkham city is 98 (ps3 version) This game should not have any haters
Wait the average is 98? that is insane, I did not know that
The gaming community as a whole is terrible anyway, the sooner you realise that the better and act accordingly.
Some people just can't stand that there are some great developers out there, some of which create games better or just as good as gears 3, uncharted 3 and _______ game fanboys crowd around... Thing is from what I've gathered this game surpasses its predecessor. To those potentionals haters of this game I give you the following link in relations to their 9.5 score.
damn thing won't take my link..
Lol..Why did kids even go to the IGN website if they hate them so much? Seriously, go to the comments section of any review they do, and it's always full of people hating on them. Why even go there!?
If people dont like it, thats their openion. They dont have to like every game
I really wish they had a demo for this game still
this has to be the only industry where kids and grown men argue back and fourth over a game and a toy. kinda sad:/
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