Despite playing Dark Souls so much he finished it within four days, Critical Gamer's Ian D didn't have much fun with it. Read the full Critical Gamer review to find out why.
a review that we agree in some points, not all, but that will not be understood by many people as it was for the review that we wrote here: http://translate.google.it/... but everyone has the right to be able to say his opinion
I think the game is great, but there is one thing I can agree with the reviewer on, at least at this point (I'm not very deep into the game yet, only 10ish hours or less, so my opinion may change). As of right now I do agree with the reviewer that Demon's Souls was a better game. Some of the mechanics even felt a little tighter (particularly the parrying/riposte mechanic felt much tighter and fluid in Demon's Souls). Dark Souls is still fantastic though. I can't understand how anyone could like Demon's Souls and *not* like Dark Souls.
This reviewer should have his reviewing rights revoked or banish him to only playing Nin DS games. Dark Souls has a solid grip on GOTY from me. I am lvl 62 with all kinds of hours spent and I still have plenty of places to go and bosses to kill. It amazes me that a person who is supposed to be a professional would pick up a game to review where the cover of said game states: PREPARE TO DIE and give it a bad review score because his sorry ass died. I died at the beginning a bunch, but I went through the rest of the game so far with no more deaths than any other game that doesn't hold your hand. This is a big boy game and all of these "gamers" that have had their little tushies pampered by games as of late that are made with the No child Left Behind mentality need to grow a pair... or as Betty White says - Grow a vagina! They take a pounding.
Its a tag line... I got a review copy of Spelunker HD from tozai and it had TONS of fluff about dying. I beat the game with 99 lifes remaining. I mean for gods sake... of all reasons to justify your opinion. Heres a simple news flash. Reviews are opinion and opinion is subjective. There is no "right" or "wrong" answer as long as you're honest. Speaking frankly not every gamer wants a game that was designed to be hard and not every gamer wants to play up. Don't confuse your opinion as fact or their opinion. It's always good to have reviews that suit everyones taste over idiots like you bitching over someone not having fun. I mean should we really hit a point where you got to bully opinions to conform to your standard just so you feel validated?
As much as I love this game, it sure does spawn a lot of elitist douchebags with superiority complexes. He beat the game, friend. He beat the game in FOUR DAYS, no less. He just said that he disliked the way it was structured to the point that he was not having fun playing the game. It's a perfectly valid critique, albeit one you may disagree with.
I agree with both admiralvic and bimk. I like dark souls alot don't get me wrong (just beat it today actually). I disagree with him saying that the game is unfairly cheap and all the stuff about him complaining about deaths and all. But the difficulty does cover up a lot of things that are fundamentally wrong with the game. I wish that Fromsoft developed the story alot more than they did and gave players atleast some direction. Plus the online system is absolutely atrocious. It seems that alot of the deaths for players at the beginning of the game are from them having no idea where to go and being in the wrong place. It seems like many of the "elitist douchebags" get so caught up in the difficulty that they ignore everything else about the game. They tend to say stupid things like Dark souls is better than game X because you wont die 1000 times in game X. Seems like they like the game more for the fact that they can talk about how hard it is and how hardcore they are to there friends rather than having a game that is great in all aspects in there hands.
What From should have done is implement a difficulty selection. Dark Soul's Light, Dark Soul's Medium, Dark Souls. The Dark Souls mode is just like how the game is now and the first two are for gamers just getting into the DS games. I really don't think that is too much to ask because not everyone has the time to dedicate to these types of games. Some people just plain aren't that good and the barrier that set up for this game seems, in my view, kind of dumb. Yes, I will be buying the game at some point to try and make the trudge, but other's won't just knowing that there is no way to ease themselves in.
I'm loving the game, yes it's frustrating but that's part of the thrill, it's an actual challenge, something with most games these days forget about
I played one of the spiderman games and got to a point where I just couldn't get past it. I loved the game but try as I might I just couldn't do it. I'm worried that something similar would happen here and ruin the game for me. I'm not going to pay full price for a single player game that I may only get 50% of the value out of it. I'll wait until its on sale for £12.99 then pick it up.
in demon's souls, the game was easy as long as you focused all the time. a tad second late at blocking and the first minion could kill you instantly. i can't believe i finished it though. ((: i hope it's the same here. will be picking it up this week. then.. i can say goodbye to whatever social life i have left. q;
It's an open ended game. There is no one boss or area (probably going to be Blighttown) that will trip you up and prevent you from beating the game.
Just to compare this to deamon souls, it's a lot harder in my opinion, I finished Deamon Souls, I didn't have too much difficulty with it, but this, this is a different story, they really upped there game with this one
Meerkat 50% of this games length is more than 3 times your average games this gen. on topic: this reviewer exposed himself as having subpar gaming skills.
nycredude - Subpar review skills too. lol
Pay no attention to Meerkat. He's been trolling this game hard. He thinks MW3 is a better game. On Topic: This is exactly the kind of game that separates the real reviewers from the bloggers. You don't mark a game down for difficulty unless it's cheap and unfair. Dark Souls is not. It's punishing, and at times unforgiving, but there is always a way to get passed that boss or NPC or demon you think is just too hard to beat. I died so many times on the Capra Demon, I was pissed. But I found out that my weapon was crappy, my shield wasn't good enough, and that is why I died so easily. Went out, got the Drake Sword, the Black Knight Shield, and whooped some Capra Demon a$$. This is the kind of game you don't want to stop no matter how hard it gets. You end up saying "I KNOW I can beat this" and you just keep trying and trying. If you can't beat it, it's YOUR fault not the game. This reviewer is a wimp.
@nyc... Reviewers are not really meant to have incredible gaming skills, they are just supposed to know how to maneuver their way around a variety of genres and be a jack-of-all-trades. Given that they have to do wayyy more than just review games as well, they probably do not have as much time to hone their skills on just one game or one genre.
This game has already consumed 15 hours of my life and I'm no where near finishing it.
50 for me, while I'm working 50 hours a week.
40 for me, and I'm sitting on 6 different branching paths to follow! Love the way the game connects! You walk off in a completely different direction, peer off a cliff or walk through a door and see a place you've been before, that you didn't know you were anywhere near!
The game focuses on getting killed and getting mad but you learn from dying. Also after you hit a stride in these games you can just be a boss for the rest of the game, I wrecked Demons Souls after hitting the 13 hour mark, was able to take out 3 archdemons in a row without getting killed and it felt amazing lol
all i can say is this game is amazing. i just beat the giant dragon thingy in the "DEPTHS". but i had help of 2 other people. im level 33 and got about 22 hours so far. some people want instant gratification. this game is all about the pleasure of persevering and the thrill of accomplishing a feat. sad for the people who are quitters.
I read the review and totally disagree. Yeah, it's hard but I was frustrated very few times. Most of the time I really felt like I was immersed in this amazing RPG world. THe reviewer isn't hard core. Also, I really do not get someone who claimed to love Demon's Souls did not like Dark Souls. While his multiplayer complaints are somewhat valid, his co-op complaints are not. He sounded like he read about Demon's Souls rather than play it. 4/10? Really? This guy should stop reviewing games today. 4/10 is a step above unplayable. Sounds like someone just wanted to get hits through a little flame review.
I didn't even bother clicking on the link, a score like 4/10 is something given to games that are broken/bad allround. Dark souls is no where even close to being like that, also the fact that in the description it says "Read the full Critical Gamer review to find out" + it's low score and it seems pretty obvious to me that this score is just a way to draw extra attention to the site, hence why i did not click the link and i hope others do the same.
Oh come on. The reviewer has different tastes. Its too difficult for him. He didnt like it because of it. Its his opinion. For him the game is so unforgiving that he consider it "broken/bad allround". Thus the score is 4.
yea this kind of reviewers piss me off!!! 4/10 is pretty pathetic. the problem with this kind of posts/links/articles here at n4g its that they get a lot of heat like this one and then the author will think that his/her/its review matter, and that it is so polemic that deserved anyone attention. i understand that the opinion matters but this articles are a way too unfair and kinda troll
reviewer needs his hand held by the sounds of it
Wouldn't that make the game harder?
Is this writer for real. I havn't enjoyed a game so much in years. All his talk about death is BS. You do learn from deaths and if enemies jump out of walls and kill you then you know they will be there the next time. Also read the messages on the ground. Someone always tells you if an enemy is lying in ambush. Don't downplay a game because its too hard for you especially when the whole marketing of the game is based around its difficulty. Also yeah you finished it in 4 days. But have you played it again in New Game plus, have you beaten all the bosses. Have you gotten all the weapons and armour. Man I really hope this crappy website isn't included on websites like Game rankings and Metacritic and I sure hope the writer is just looking for hits. A 4 out of 10 game is a piece of crap in my book. This is why I hate reviewers. Yeah I know its only his opinion but some people stick to reviews like its the gospel. This review P'ed me off big time.
People with adhd shouldn't be allowed to review games.
Hey! I have ADHD and this game is one of my favorite games of all time!
Didn't read the review and going by the score, it's probably another "whaaa...it's too hard" typed of review because there's technically nothing wrong with the game. Here's a tip for those new to the game or franchise. It is possible to hit level 18 with a few hours of grinding giant skeletons near Firelink Shrine with any starting class. After level 18, the only thing that will give you trouble is the Capra Demon and his two dogs. You should be set until Blighttown, which is more of a pain in the ass than a challenge.
Skeletons don't give you Souls. Reaching level 18 though is pretty easy even if you're not even trying to grind. There's an abundance of soul items everywhere, and if you're not afraid of sacrificing yourself a few times you can get some kick ass items early on.
The giant skeletons give 500 souls a pop. You don't even have to fight them. There's a "U" shaped cliff above the group of 2 skeletons. You can skip fighting two of them, and bait the two at the bottom of the stairs into jumping off that cliff. The large skeleton near the winged spear is the one that gives 500 souls and you also don't have to fight him...only bait him into attacking and falling off that cliff. I've farmed up thousands of souls using that method. Sometimes you just want to check out different classes but don't want invest too much time deciding if you like that class. This is the easiest way to level up quickly....and I'm talking an hour easy...not past the Bell gargoyles easy.
the review is basically " booo hooo hooo, i died alot, booo hooo hooo"
another proof to never write a review at night on an empty stomach and a loaded gun. frustrated + 4/10 = fail.
The reviewer is obviously wanting to play games that flow more like a movie than are actual GAMES that require skill. Hey reviewer, go do movie reviews, that seems to be your calling. Leave real games alone!!!
I'm picking this up tomorrow. Will keep me tided over until Arkham City.
Good, good. Consume, conform, stay asleep. I heard the bosses in Dark Souls are also all out of bubblegum. :-)
I think your the first person who knows where my avatar is from. Kudos to you.
Best ever fight scene over putting on a pair of sunglasses!
My friend and I were just commenting on the fight scene a while ago. The fight scene was soooo long and he only wanted the guy to put on sunglasses...
Hm, is this guy sure he played Demon Souls? ha.. Anyway everyone is entitled to there own opinion of the game, I have friends who love the game, and I have friends who just like watching the game because they admit it is too hard for them. I beat demon souls at least 14 different times my character is over level 200 and that's how much I enjoyed it. I am about 8 hours into this one and I feel right at home when it comes to game-play and it is a lot harder than Demon Souls. As much as I like the idea of bonfires, I do miss the nexus.
Haha! Have ye read the comments left after the actual review? That reviewer is getting a hell of a lot of abuse! And I agree with pretty much all of that abuse! There is one point I agree with him on though, the online aspect has suffered since Demon's Souls. I played for about 2 hours last night and every few minutes I was putting down the white marker for co-op play and not once was I summoned. When playing through Demon's Souls I couldn't go 5 minutes without being summoned. I love co-op games so that aspect has been a bit of a disappointment but otherwise the game is absolutely brilliant.
I agree about the summoning thing...they need to address that in a patch or something. It's not just the new server structure...I think it's also due to the fact that a lot more mainstream gamers are buying this than Demon's Souls, and they are not figuring out HOW to summon/be summoned.
It's the level cap. In Demon's Souls, you can be summoned by any player who was +/- 10 levels from your Soul Level. In Dark Souls, it's 10% So if you're SL 20, only those who are SL 18 to 22 can be summoned to join you or summon you to join them. It's pretty ridiculous as it means that the higher level you get, the broader the level range will get. At level 100, you'll then get to summon level 90 to level 110 players. I think they should change it back to Demon's Souls' formula.
@DragonKnight You're mostly right about Demon's Souls's level restriction. It's actually +/- one tenth of your soul level PLUS ten levels, meaning at level 50 you can have +/- 15 levels, and at 100 it's +/- 20. Still, pretty scary that they changed it so much. *Edit* The Demon's Souls Wiki, under "Online" in the introduction, has the explanation.
The reviewer basically thinks the difficulty is unfair. He thinks that Demon's Souls achieved the right balance but Dark Souls is just too aggressive, putting the player in situations they have no possible chance to survive. I dunno, I'm in Blighttown at the moment and some of that has had me pulling my hair out, making me believe that I had no possible chance to getting through. But I did. I pushed through and I'm at that spider boss now which has me thinking 'How am I going to beat this...'. Perseverance though. I did notice in this review the words 'fun' and 'enjoyment' pop up a lot. You don't play these games for fun and enjoyment, nor to relax. These games require everything from you, if you're playing it can't be half assed.
Even Blighttown is pretty manageable, once you get the layout down (and if you get the appropriate ring first).
Ah thats where I'm struggling. I have no poison resistance ring, nor a fire one for the chaos witch boss. Will try and beat her though, I have the shield with fire reistance.
Just run through that sht poisoned lol. For the boss chick summon the maneater chick b4 fighting her, makes it alot easier. Make sure ur in human form at the bonfire then the maneater lady attacks u, kill her then u can summon her at the boss. (beat the game today lol sl 76 with demon spear+5 no magic)
Everyone keeps talking about blighttown. I rocked that places face... Maybe because I am a sorc.
Such complete fail. He complains about it being harder to co-op with a friend. Newsflash: even in Demon's Souls, you WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO co-op with friends. People who did so were working around the game. The rest of the review sounds like whining. There's nothing "cheap" in this game.
we have enough easy games out there already i'm happy dark souls doesn't hold the players hand
Game sucks due to horrible framerate.
I don't see why people get defensive over someone not liking Dark Souls. I think most gamers hate dying, loosing progression, or starting over. This game is based around it. And for some that's what makes it amazing; but it seems quite obvious that that fact would turn some people off. The cover says "Prepare to Die"; well if some gamers hate dying, or re-doing section; the cover might as well say "you'll hate this game" I for one know full well I don't like games that fustrate me. So i stear clear of Dark Souls. To quote IGN's review "It doesn't care... whether you're enjoying yourself.. If you just play games for fun, this isn't for you" Well that's me in a nut shell..
I'm all for different people having different opinions, and if somebody tells me that they don't like this franchise, hey that's fine. It's not for everybody. But 4/10? That's just stupid.
There's a difference between not liking a game and giving it a really really low score because you're butthurt and the game made you mad. 4/10 is way too low a score. Good news is that this lame website isn't counted in Metacritic. All the professional game reviewers agree that the game is awesome. The lowest score is a 70/100. This guy gives it half that score..........butthurt.
Last year, I read a nice article by a professional reviewer for some site (I forget which). He said, basically, that good reviewers don't rate games based on what they, personally, think of the game, but how a person geared for that type of game would like said game. For example, I hate sports games, but if I was reviewing a sport game, I wouldn't let the fact that I personally despise it get in the way of my reviewing. At least, not to much of an extent. I'd try and take an unbiased look at the gameplay, the engine, the graphics/music/sound, the whole thing, and rate based on those and not my opinion on that type of gameplay. This reviewer does none of that.
lvl 84 here and I still die quite a bit. They did make this game harder than Demon Souls. Demon souls was just right for me. Don't take this as I am not enjoying dark souls, otherwise, I'd not make lvl 84. I think, I killed about 15 damn bosses so far :D
Having sunk about 15 hours into Dark Souls now, I agree with this review. Demon's Souls was a better game. A lot of people here are getting hung up on "oh he is complaining its hard". Have a real read of the review again; Plot is sketchy at best, enemies attacking through walls, multiplayer being broken. It is because of ALL of the issues that the review has been given this score in my opinion. Also, at no point does the reviewer state he/she has stopped playing the game because it "was too hard". I find it interesting that there is so much bile being spewed because you disagree with someones opinion, especially those cynical enough to believe it was given to "score hits". /endrant
I have to agree with him in general, though I still came away with a very positive opinion of the game. There are cheap tactics in this game that were not nearly as prevalent in Demon's Souls: attacks through walls, horrible button delay and "queuing", terrible checkpoints and a multiplayer component that was almost completely squandered.
I finished dark souls yesterday playing solo apart from ornstein and smough (too hard even for me) Its a fantastic game with a real sense of challenge and discovery, 4/10 wow what a nutter this reviewer is a failure. Been poor at a game does NOT mean the game deserves a poor score, they probably gave the hannah montana game a 10/10 score.
I am having a great time with this game, makes me want to go back and finish Demon Souls now...
N4G is a community of gamers posting and discussing the latest game news. It’s part of NewsBoiler, a network of social news sites covering today’s pop culture.