VG247 writes: 343 Industries isn’t worried about franchise fatigue with the Halo series, because it’s not just pumping out sequels.
O'Connor has been with the Halo franchise since it was with Bungie, and it appears that his time with the series--and Microsoft--is done.
Yet another nail in the Halo franchise coffin. Even Microsoft themselves moved on from the IP after replacing it with Starfield on console boxes.
This is actually a good thing halo fans have wanted Frank and Bonnie gone from 343 so hopefully things get better with them gone.
Nah, Frank was OG, from back in the days when Halo was good, before 343i came along. What the franchise needs is: 1. a substantial rest, 2. a reboot and 3. a decent pool of the original team that made the magic in the early days.
Only then will they have a chance at having anyone give a crap again. Frank leaving is not a good start on that journey.
@God
Yeah Frank was but from my understanding that was it for him. Fix that sh!t show and move on
Microsoft has COD now. They no longer need Halo. 343 Is going through a complete reboot and getting rid of the old and bringing in the new. The Halo franchise is getting a complete reboot to appeal to a new generation of fans. I expect to see a new game by the end of the next gen Xbox.
Doesn't your end statement counter your first? You expect to see a new Halo game by the end of the next gen Xbox that as you say MS doesn't need? I wouldn't expect to ever see another Halo game again if its not needed.
What I meant to say is that there is no longer any urgency. MS used to release a Halo mainline or spinoff every year or two. They used to make sure there was Halo at the start of every console launch. I no longer see them doing that. Now, they are not going to abandon it because the series still has a lot of value. I expect a new Mainline title by the mid or end of the next Xbox.
@Mika, Why not both? Managing you most important ip thus far would only be bolstered by add cod to your portfolio.
Because Halo isn't carrying Xbox to a new gen like they always have in the past like you said. That, Forza and Gears games. The Forza Creative Director left to make a new studio The Coalition took a hiatus to learn Unreal Engine 5 and will return to Gears at some point (rumor is they did return to Gears but still years away from release)
MS Trifecta is getting old and tired I mean that from a studio point of view of the only studios carrying the Xbox every gen. Once MS employed new studios to help develop games for the console, old studio heads and leads are all going there sesperate ways.
It's what happens when you have the same 4 or 5 studios for years on end. Burn out.
CoD is remaining multiplatform. Besides, you don’t abandon a high profile property just because of an impending acquisition. That’s…. not how business works. At all.
Halo just needs a new shot in the arm to get it going again.
Its actually a nail removed from Halo's Coffin.
If you know who this person is you would agree that he should have left the studio after Halo 5
Fallout of a failed game. Your TGA player's choice goty 87 meta lol. Idgaf. Dreams was great yet it failed and the director left. That's what happens. Halo was average from the jump yet showered with praise. Now many hate the game. Funny.
The gameplay, mechanics, and feel of Halo Infinite are top notch. That's why everyone praised it initially. It was with the expectation that 343 would keep a steady stream of content and updates coming to keep the game alive, which 343 failed miserably at.
Maybe a new developer could handle Halo better going forward. If possible perhaps Infinity Ward could helm a Halo game in the future.
Any dev could do better at this point. Halo 4, Halo 5, MCC, and Halo Infinite all had a ton of technical issues and bad creative decisions, and there has never been any indication of improvement. MCC was broken for more than half a decade before they even attempted to fix it, and even after the biggest update to a game ever, it still wasn't fully fixed (and those games weren't even broken to begin with, they broken nearly perfect games outside of 4).
I think some of these are people being respectfully let go.
No one really ever gets "Fired" in gaming...its always a time to move on situation.
I know it wouldn’t happen but imagine if after the merger they allowed Activision to create a Halo game.
Didn't he approve of and give the Godawful Halo TV(Paramount +) series his full blessings? Good riddance.
Whoa at this point its an exodus. You can only lose so many people in order for a development team to lose its core essence. Might be a good thing as Halo in its current state is not the juggernaut it once was.
I find it hilarious that people are saying that it is doom and gloom for Halo.
Their main parties Boonie ross, Kiki Wolfkill and Frank o Conor have left...I you have been keeping up with Halo for a long time now you would know that these three are irresponsible of a lot of bad decision at the Studio.
Maybe we can go a while without a new Halo. Allow Microsoft to regroup, focus more on some new original IPs, come back in 5 years with a banger of an announcement trailer for a completely reworked Halo that checks all the boxes. Gamers will rejoice and Xbox can actually attract gamers to their platform once the GP plateau hits.
Franchise director weighs in on wild rumour.
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Plans, considered, what if etc
Anything with Halo on the PlayStation, even brought up, hints at Microsoft’s far future plans
Matt Booty said in Eurogamer interview during E3 that Microsoft is open to bringing future Halo titles to PS consoles if Sony would want them to.
That Xbox app is looking more likely in the far future
Microsoft buying those studios all of a sudden seems like it was so they can produce more games as a third party publisher imo
I would Welcome Microsoft as a huge publisher for any and all game platforms as long as they keep a hands off approach to the games the devs are producing. They have the money to do so and can help so many devs in realizing their dreams with monetary support
I guess microsoft thinks that if they bring some xbox one exclusive to their competitor, the console (xbox one) might acquire some exclusives from sony and nintendo
He talked about Minecraft being on Playstation an ip that has always been on Playstation - that is all.
Sony wouldn't prevent it so long as ms pays for the license and keeps the release within the certification rules. If MS wants Sony to bend the rules for them, then they probably won't, because that's exceedingly rare, and they typically make rules that any dev can use in those situations.
Sony could ask, but if MS wants it released in PS, then they can go through the process of becoming a licensed publisher like everyone else.
I read it I don’t see where he says he’s open to Brining halo to ps lmao that wouldn’t even be his choice but only the higher ups stop being silly
With the way M$ is positioning Xbox I wouldn't be surprised if they don't eventually pull a Sega. I mean in a weird way Xbox was like a spiritual successor to Dreamcast so it would all come full circle.
I wouldn't say in a weird way. Xbox is definitely a product of Sega leaving the console business, the same way PS was a direct product of Nintendo snubbing Sony. MS worked with Sega to have their place in the industry with windows CE and helped Sega design the system. They lost that when Sega dropped out, but they took a lot of what they implemented or were hoping to implement on dreamcast and made the first xbox. I think the only big difference was using directx as the core api of the system...which made sense given what DX did for PC development.
The entire reason Sega pulled a "Sega" was because of lack of funding to stay in the hardware part of the business vs PlayStation. Microsoft does not have that issue.
Many of the people behind the Sega dreamcast actually joined Microsoft and we're involved in the making of the Xbox.
Probably a future plan if next hardware doesnt cut it. Probably move to that service plan app and play anywhere even on a competitor console.
@xX-oldboy-Xx
"It'd sell more on PS4 than xbox - wouldn't that be funny."
Yes, specially considering how Halo is hated by some "PS fans". Lol
We don't hate Halo. We hate the people that act like it's the biggest thing ever, and that it's MS ace in the hole, usually with a good dose of downplaying of anything that Sony also has to offer.
I personally have no real opinion of Halo, but I recognize the technical merits it has exhibited over the years, and what it's brought to the FPS genre. Plus, it's given us Red vs. Blue, albeit indirectly, and that makes it worthwhile.
I honestly believe if Halo migrates to a competitor, the entire reason to own an Xbox (not considering PC) becomes irrelevant in a sense - yes there's still Forza and Gears, but THE face of your namesake is no longer an exclusive experience.
If they do not plan to continue the franchise, they might as well sell it outside of their console and generate more sales for the franchise. They can't keep selling halo remakes to the same fan base. It will eventually decline in sales. People won't keep buying HD, remakes, remasters and so on of the same game forever.
@-Foxtrot
"We’ve had plenty of those over the years but not one line of code was even glanced at."
Translation:
Broken dreams. ;)
Retrospectivly 25 years ago in sonic featuring on a non Sega console and a Nintendo console at that was a insane idea but today Sega constantly publish titles to all platforms.
Things happen and the industry grows Microsoft may be looking to exit the console space after scarlet and lean towards the cloud which would allow them to function on anything as long as the gateway service owner greenlights it.
So they could operate similar to EA access potentially
Sega released Sonic CD on PC in the 486 era. I think I had a 386 at the time.
At the time, no one claimed that Sega was leaving the console race, or was it even considered. I also don't recall people claiming that Sega was going to look into going the 3rd party route. It's rather strange how it wasn't until the internet age really took off that such pontification about if a console maker was leaving or not was really discussed. Usually when it happened, it just happened, and if consoles dying was discussed, it was just because PC was seeing a surge.
Sega had also a game streaming service, and a game download service. They had subscription services. They had pretty much everything MS has now, in a much earlier and less widely available form. Yet, Sega was never claimed to be "the future" of gaming as if it was an exclusive title to bestow upon a single entity or idea.
LOL. Not really. It's a "meaningful gulf" as this guy says.
I think the Halo on PS talk seemed more like MS trying to play the good guy than having any real serious intent to do so, or even look into it.
If we're talking about xCloud or Game Pass, that's probably a no-go, or it's going to be extremely limited on the selection, because Sony isn't likely to allow Xbox licensed games to run on their console, even if only through streaming or within a closed structure like Game Pass. Even if it were possible to do seemlessly locally, it's unlikely, and downloaded games aren't just a matter of throwing the game up on the console, as Sony's API's do not support directX programming calls.
That said, if MS wants to produce games and build them to the PS console, as a third party publisher, Sony wouldn't stop them. They can even do XBL logins, so long as they're done through compliance standards. Minecraft wasn't rejected because of the XBL login, but because MS wanted to control the updates, and lock them behind XBL logins, which is a big no-no when it comes to compliance standards. Even the major publishers cant feed updates or user content from their own servers....just use those logins for authentications purposes. Even with cross play, Sony isn't allowing Epic to do it. Whether that's right or not is another discussion, but that's the way it is right now.
Yeah, the MCC is a fantastic collection. I just wish Halo 3 had gotten the remake love that 1-2 did on there... (I think 1 and 2 were both remakes, if I'm not mistaken. Can't quite remember.) I'm just waiting on the PC version currently. I've always enjoyed the Halo games, I just haven't owned an Xbox in so long I haven't been able to play them recently.
Combat evolved was the remake that was released last gen.
Halo 2 was upgraded the same way for the collection
@Rude-ro - Ah, that was it. So yeah, I just wish they'd given Halo 3 the same treatment... I think 3 might have been my favorite, though I still have such fond memories of Halo 2's multi-player with my friends back in the day. People would just leave Xbox controllers at my house all the time. I had like 9 of them piled up from those days.
I thought 3 looked good. Not 2 remake good, but the bump to native 1080p made it pop.
I would have too, but I brought it for the X1 when I purchased it. I thought I'd like to complete the series, because I like the lore that exists within it, and I find it an enjoyable FPS, despite my dislike of the genre overall.
But, after playing it for a while, i really couldn't get into it. Story was fine, but it never got me going. Kind of sucks, because I do like a lot of the narrative surrounding the series, and it's spin off media....and especially Red vs. Blue.
I'd recommend it to anyone who likes FPS or doesn't mind them, and wants to play a game with a good story, and it's MP is also pretty well thought of, so I can't say that it's not worth it, even though I dislike MP too.:)
The collection itself is pretty impressive though, and as a PS4 owner, I'd have no problem with it coming to PS4. I'm sure many PS gamers would enjoy it as much as MS gamers....especially since the vast majority of people don't center their lives around console preference.
You and Longadog don't want it? That's fine... Sheep like you don't deserve to play it in the first place.
Let real gamers decide if they'd want to purchase it on the PS and stay out of their business!
All games are pew pew and stab stab if you're narrow minded enough. If you don't care to enjoy one of the greatest franchises then it's your loss and doesn't affect anyone else.
I can understand if you don't like the direction Halo is taking now. (I really don't like Halo 4 or 5.) But, to act like it's just a minor franchise, or "just another shooter" is very simple-minded. Regardless of what you think, it's still a massive franchise and well deserving of it. Not to mention quite unique in the way it plays that sets it apart from a lot of other shooters.
You honestly don't know that Halo is one of the greatest franchises? Like seriously, trolling and lack of interest aside?
You're telling me a franchise with one of the most recognizable icons, such a deep lore and backstory that has books/tv shows, one of the most recognizable soundtracks, innovate gameplay that put console online multiplayer on the map and inspired dozens of FPS yet the oldest installment still manages to have a healthy multiplayer population, is not one of the greatest? Also happens to be one of the highest selling and critically acclaimed franchises. I don't think you want to go there my friend, your bias won't win you this battle.
oh please.. its just mostly you green babies that is still pushing to milk this dying cow. you act like the gaming world halts to a standstill if this franchise is shelved ..
last time i checked, those books and shows you so proudly shouted just went by with a whimper (oh you mean the critically acclaimed netflix halo? lol ) anyhow, who gets royalties when halo books and shows gets published? i wonder what company is desperately trying to keep this franchise relevant. resident evil movies has been milked to death, do you qualify that to be great as well? maybe you just have a crappy criteria on calling anything “great”. then again ms has a habit of doing that too. not surprised at all..
great? goodness how many more flops do you need.
Lol another pew pew? Let me guess you love your single player super linear japanese otaku games or crappy failures like The Order? Is it because PS never could release a single pew pew game to even match this? Now you've given up on all fps' and just consider them pew pew! xD
oh right, because halo is one of ms big three right? or should i say only three ;)
the order? scraping the barrel i see ... you must be really desperate to use that game as an example .. good try though
japanese otaku .. sure sweetheart
Ignorance is bliss. Halo is more than a shooter btw but you wouldn't know nothing about that.
What the hell are you talking about? There haven't been as much shooters this gen compared to the last. I welcome more shooters. Last gen we had resistance, killzone, mag, socom, warhawk, starhawk and so on. We also had shooters from third party developers.
Haha clearly you have more disagrees than agrees. The PC community exploded in March when MCC was announced for PC. The argument is that it's one of the greatest throughout its existence, and that is factually true no matter how much you cry "green babes" (whatever that means). You can't find multiplayer like it anywhere else.
And I own a Ps4 myself so your little jabs don't work.
oh no, just look at those disagrees ... guess i should be worried now, huh? ;) you hoping those will make my statement less true, perhaps?
the worst performing team in the nba will still have its die hard fans. not because logic dictates the team has a shot at being on the top but because its the only one they have... but i'm sure, you are not that kind of a fan, right?
just calling a spade for what it really is. you can disagree all you want but bringing it anywhere else doesn't make it less decrepit as it is right now (not your books, not your lore, not your shows). surprise surprise, not all people are into that nostalgia hat of yours
"exploded", "greatest", "can't find multiplayer like it anywhere else" - ....and we just successfully ran a full circle folks. just gotta love some of these ms fans :D
"The PC community exploded in March when MCC was announced for PC" - now i need to borrow this and use it as a sig just for the lulz
A lot of your PS exclusives have that "pew pew" you speak of. TLOU, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Resistance, MGS (exclusive up until 5), Death Stranding, Killzone, etc.
If I wanted another shooter to play on my Pro I rather it be Killzone 2 & 3 remastered instead of a Halo collection.
Yikes. Looks like Killzone just wasnt good enough since they stopped making em...
Killzone is amazing. I have been asking for a remastered as well. Kz2 and 3 on the ps5? Yes, please!!
Killzone 2 and 3 were great. I always liked the series better than halo. You guys negating that Killzone 2 wasn't a great game should actually play it.
I'm there with you. I guess that's two people asking for Killzone over Halo any day, week, month, year.
Why not both? If you put your fanboy hard on aside you can have 2 nice things, common sense. Like the unnecessary need to bring killzone into this just screams insecurity. And I guess you're right...that's two people.
Hm, interesting, I thought I was responding to Elda and indirectly to micdagoat19.
@spicelicka Why not both? Because I already stated that I don't care for the look of Halo from the first game, but fifth like Gear, maybe I shouldn't have brought them into the conversation either. Yet, I was not the one to initially bring Killzone into this.
It's an article about two platforms, so what's the problem of me bring up a specific game and how I feel. Yeah talk about insecurities that people are so easily bruised that the slightest deviation from what they want to read sends them into a tizzy. I'd you hated what I said just then, maybe not what i wrote first a bit further down. Me saying I prefer one over the other some how lacks common sense? Sounds like you're the one lacking, so I guess that makes three. Fanboy warrior.
U can’t be fkn serious 😂😂😂 theres a reason that game is dead stop being a fan boy
Yes I 'm completely serious. Again if I had to play a series of shooters remastered I rather play KZ 2 & 3 instead of that tired BS Halo. KZ 2&3 were great games Halo looks boring & uninteresting to me. To each their own.
I’m a multi console owner. And enjoyed mcc on Xbox. But I would totally rebuy and play on PlayStation for fun and the novelty of it. It’s be like playing sonic in Nintendo for the first time. And also just to support the business practice. Let them see that there’s more money to be had bringing games to other platforms. I wouldn’t care if I got to play halo on my PlayStation or the 40 odd million Xbox games got to play uncharted 4. I’d be glad for naughty dog getting that money that would help them keep making the kind of games I love.
Sonic felt wrong on other platforms at first. Might have been because they weren't great games after Sega left the market. Luckily they got better. Sega did release sonic CD on PC, and it felt like a novelty, but there weren't a lot of those kind of games on PC at the time, and it was just kind of cool having that stuff on pc
If that ever happened my jaw would drop to the floor and I would most likely end up buying it despite owning it on XBO.
When I think Halo I think Xbox and vice versa. Halo on anything other than Xbox or PC would take some getting used to. Definitely strange at first. If they put Halo on a rival platform the Xbox is pretty much done in terms of identity. Phil needs to chill.
On the plus side Halo gets even more exposure than it already has but at the expense of Xbox's identity in the console space. That is the equivalent of a main Mario game appearing on Xbox or PS.
I think it depends on what MS wants to brand the Xbox as. You still associate Ghost Recon with Ubisoft, Battlefield with EA etc. and each of those have virtual consoles (Origin/EA Access), so it could work for Xbox too.
exactly, its annoying to me WHY BUY XBOX IF ALL GAMES ARE ON EVERY SYSTEM LOL
Now xbxox fans are spinning it like this is a positive, xbox games on ps4/switch is great because it means more money for xbox, i cant with these people anymore, theyre delusional. If sony was doing this the internet would of exploded with all kinds of negative articles.
It sucks that xbxox has no exclusives or any new single player ips, Xbox only saving grace is gamepass, using the hard work of 3rd parties to make a profit without putting any effort. No one buys gamepass for xbxox terrible tired exclusives, people by game pass for the dirt cheap 3rd party games.
If it wasn't a positive for Xbox why would MS even consider it?? Do they have a gun to their heads?
I think you're delusional if you think Xbox isn't making money and is still around. Your fanboy love for a piece of plastic is cringeworthy.
"If sony was doing this the internet would of exploded with all kinds of negative articles."
This comment proves your insecurity from a potential thought of getting butthurt over negative articles.
There is no reason Halo would come to PS, but if it did it will be great for both PS4 and Xbox. I own both so I don't really care, but it's always fun to read comments like yours.
Well according to Frank, it was never considered and was at most a "what if" that never went anywhere.
@yomfweeee
I figured that, I was just saying even it was considered it sure wouldn't be out of desperation.
Anything and everything is 'looked into' or 'considered'. 99.9% of the time it doesn't happen. This is one of those times.
I'm going to look into the accuracy of the statistics you provided.
More seriously, yeah, it's easy to give a good pr statement when they know it's probably not going to happen, but never say never.
If Halo were to come to a Playstation Bungie would have done it by now. But if Microsoft has future plans to port Halo to Playstation what would Microsoft be expecting back from Sony. Nathan Drake on Xbox or Kratos on Xbox I doubt Sony would float their characters to Xbox. Only way I would buy Halo on a Playstation is if it were the Bungie games I am not a big fan of 343.
Saw this article yesterday, would not buy it even on PlayStation. I have a friend who would welcome such a move and am sure he would rebuy Gears on PS4/5, and probably co-op it together again.
Only played a tiny bit of Halo CE, the four player couch MP or whatever it is/was called, but did not like the look of the game with every thing looking bright and neon. Did not sell me on the idea that I'm in a war, too clean and pretty. I think Gears had the right look, which is why I played the first three games co-op.
I said it a few days ago that MS are pushing to be a third party publisher, with all their recently acquired studios having games on PS4, and them pushing Minecraft Dungeons, to now hearing they were and maybe still are considering putting Halo MCC on PlayStation.
Then if that happens as I've said before, talk will happen were someone says that Sony needs to reciprocate and bring some Sony exclusives to XBox. Can't say it won't happen, because we've already seen the article of Nintendo needs to reciprocate and allow some game or character of theirs to be featured on XBox. First cross platform, next will be cross exclusives. Of course there's going to be someone who is going to say that exclusives shouldn't be a thing, and all games should be available to everyone.
Now I ask myself, if MS were in a better position as far as console sales and exclusive software goes, would we be seeing all this talk and movement towards a gaming utopia from them? They want to infiltrate every device and home, which was their plan all along, but were they always planning on using Sony PlayStations as a trojan horse to do so? Are we soon to be under one gaming regime banner in the not so far flung future, we're we all hail and praise the Lord Spencer. I will slit my ethernet cord first.
Only one thing remains unanswered, is this an XBox or PlayStation article, don't want to rile any feathers being in an article where I don't belong.
Sometimes you have to buy and play a game for yourself to enjoy and grow to like it. Anyone that knows me on here will tell you I'm a big Halo fan. My first time playing it I didn't like it. I had the exact same experience as you. Halo CE Local MP over a friend house. It wasn't for me, plus I hated the og Xbox Duke controller so that didn't help when your used to a small ps2 controller. It wasn't till I bought it on PC and played the campaign did I fall in love with it and play MP online at my own pace.
Thank you for a reasonable reply and understanding what I am saying. True indeed I did use The Duke way back then and did not like the controller feel, and what was up with those two buttons on the side the black and white. Anyway, I actually liked Gears when I played it and thought it a more fun game. Plus at that time I probably was tired of the silent protagonist.
I don't have anything negative to really say about Halo, just that due to a few things I was not feeling it like others did. Unfortunately I'm not really into MP games so neither Gears or Halo MP would be a anything I would give much thought about.
Saw a Halo Map in PS Dreams, i can picture them making an exzact replica of the multiplayer maps on there, at least on the PS5 version, Unreal Tournament 3 on the ps3 already had a decent Halo Copy
LOL this is Y they aren't winning the Console war. and i know its business, revenue etc but they cant have AAA exclusives to save there lives. LOL i have all of systems and loved xbox last gen and this gen but PS4 has more AAA EXCLUSVES. key word microsoft exclusives to only ps4.
You have 3 sort of exclusives to buy Xbox for . Halo Gears Forza . If you put Halo on PS that’s 33.333333 percent less reason to buy an Xbox console . They are definitely ditching them sooner than later and going full Sub mode
Not fussed about Halo, Forza on the other hand would be great. Love those games.
I'd be gobsmacked if anything like that happened though.
I wont be surprise if halo collection do make it on ps down the lines. Nintendo already has a one of there exclusives and banjo on smash so after that I really wont be surprise surprise.
this mostly likely is to be on PC and Switch than Ps4 considering Microsoft relationship with Nintendo vs Sony.
As a longtime ps fan I would not have anything against it if this is MS future plan to go multi plat publisher. However same time it would be kinda sad as it would be an end of an era. As much as I don't like MS there is no doubt they had good impact as well on the industry and on Sony
Agree, always thought Gears was better than Halo, with more of a realistic war torn look about the enviroment. Whereas Halo in MY opinion in look was more like Pandora from the Movie Avatar, but much brighter. Not saying Halo isn't good or Gears is better, just which I prefer aesthetically.
That should pacify and keep warriors at bay, hopefully.
Nor am I completely aware that Halo is a great IP. But ya always felt like it was a parody of Sci-F and like my FPS more "grounded" kinda like COD MW over COD IW. Gears is just more in my lane.
Funny how some people who don’t like Microsoft’s titles tend to change their minds when the possibility of their games coming to their platform of choice comes to mind
The same way happens with some people who doesn't like Playstation games or developers suddenly change their minds when those games or developers become available on Xbox.
Funny how it works BOTH ways huh?
I dont like MS. I have no problem with their good games. I might be critical of some of their releases, but I still can recognize the quality games they do have.
Quality games like Gears1-3 which are the only ones I've played and liked. Although haven't played Froza Horizon but I like the look, all the various races and challenges and openness of the world map from what I've seen on YouTube.
Outside of those two franchises I can not really think of any other current gen game I would like to play from MS. To be really clear i know the first three Gears weren't on current gen, but they should have gotten their own collect as well.
Gears and Halo are both quality franchises, although they're not really my style. Halo I'm just not much into FPS, but I like the story and lore. Gears, I'm just not much into the space marine motif, but again, the first few were technical masterpieces, and I can recognize why people like them. Forza is always good. Fable I like. Some of the indies like Ori are great. So on and so forth. I'll say their bad games are up to snuff, but I generally don't play them so I try to restrain myself.
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Hellblade and Final Fantasy as a few examples
I always knew Halo is a good IP just not for me nothing has changed.
Crackdown 3 on the other hand I would play on nothing as it's a horrible game.
Gears I have always wanted to play, so nothing funny about anything.
@fallen.
Are they the same people?
Could it not be possible that there are another type of people whom don't want the Xbox title enough to buy a console to play them? But want them enough that they would buy them if they came to their platform of choice...
I would not buy an Xbox console but if their titles become available on Playstation, I optionally would give them a try.
Microsoft would be better doing a Sega move.
People keep dodging his other responses in the tweet. Fanboys keep wishing so hard that microsoft games go to all consoles lol i remember back in 2014? The petitions to bring halo to ps4.
https://www.gopetition.com/...
- "Dear 343 industries and Microsoft,
For last years and many others halo was only an xbox exclusive but now I ask for everyone to sign so PlayStation gets the new halo and other halos for ps4 we deserve it." One of many. People are also taking what matt booty said out of context when talking about minecraft on ps(the game that was originally planned to release on ps way before acquisition) fanboys are getting rock hard right now with all the theories of microsoft doing that lol
Frank o'connor:
"I’m just pointing out the semantics as it relates to “plan” - I mean I plan to eat healthy today..."
I say bring Halo to PlayStation. It would instantly reclaim its title as the most popular game franchise in the world if that were to happen. For PlayStation gamers who haven't played the MCC, you would be in for a serious treat. So much content in that package its mind boggling.
Personally, i am all for exclusives being a thing of the past. So yeah, the thought of microsoft bringing halo to the playstation is a good idea, i just hope sony and nintendo jump on the bandwagon with this.
Can you imagine if Halo ended up on a Sony console? What would be the point of Xbox after that.
Gears is my favorite xbox series. If that ended up on Playstation, I would give MS all the praise.
Gears IP and Cuphead that's really the only two I wanted, and Quantum Break I would not snuff at.
Did want Crackdown3 but not anymore
Inside but that came out a month later on PS4
So 3 games, just not enough to "jump in"
Perhaps next gen... like opinion piece says...looks like MS has most of their pigeons in a row.
@KickSpinFilter Cuphead is alright I guess, not really feeling the art style of the 50 era cartoons. Seen all of those back in the 70s growing up, so Popeye and Baby Huey style art really did not grab me so I didn't fall into the hype.
I bought Inside and have yet to play it, currently finishing Days Gone, then onto Boold and Truth, then onto Borderlands VR. After that I don't know what to choose from my very expanding backlog.
Crackdown3, meh, I guess I could give 8t a try bit I'd rather try the first cause from what I remember seeing on YouTube back in the days actually looked good, simple and fun, like the PS2 era game called Narc.
It should be. I have many friends who only own PlayStations but really enjoy Halo as well. Especially now that the MCC is finally in good shape after that 4k update it got not too long ago.
This is why I'm done with them. I'll play there games on ps. They have aome great developers not but what they are looking to do in the future iant for me
This is the future microsoft, since satya nadella took over, is going towards. Microsoft is a software and a service company, before hardware. That is why they have MS Office on Apple and Android platforms.
Their Xbox and Gaming division, is no different.
Whether it's an app or a native release. It will happen. Cuphead on the Switch is the start. The Switch will be the first of the console platforms to receive big microsoft first party games. Gears/Halo/Forza on Switch. Then comes playstation, with all these. Then lastly, xbox gamepass subscription service for all consoles.
Microsoft wants your money, wherever you play. They literally have their program named "PLAY ANYWHERE" and it's not just Windows 10 PC's and devices. They will extend to every possible device they can extend either natively , if playable, or through Project xCloud.
It is INEVITABLE at this point. The only question is "WHEN".
Keep dreaming lmao they wouldn’t be making a next gen console if that were the case if anything ms would go full streaming and become something like Netflix
I wouldn't have to "dream" because I have no stake in this. I'm on PC only and I enjoy ALL microsoft exclusives on it, and some occasional sony games like Heavy Rain, Beyond, Detroit, Journey etc natively, and some bigger games like Bloodborne via the cloud on PS Now, so I'm good.
Since you're clearly not above legal age, you won't be able to understand what business actually is, and that sony and microsoft are after the money from consumers and NOT the retarded "console wars" on the internet. Both companies have different ways of approaching their revenue stream.
Sony are the traditional game player here with their hardware, because they don't have the data center/"cloud" infrastructure that microsoft has, so they're playing it safe with their exclusives tied to their platform permanently, because playstation is the highest revenue generator for the entire company. They CANNOT afford to commit a mistake in this division or their market cap/shares will drop.
Microsoft are opening up and going back to what they were, a software service company, from the very origin of it, and are succeeding. This "they wouldn’t be making a next gen console if that were the case" console warrior bullshit doesn't matter to them, if it did, they wouldn't have released their first party games on PC and tied it only to xbox one. And don't back saying "but they own PC!", no they don't. PC is THE MOST OPEN platform their is and the biggest competitor to consoles today. If microsoft doesn't consider PC a threat, then they surely won't consider Switch and PS4 (and PS5) a threat too.
It shows in their revenue stream. Despite having their exclusives on PC, and "making the xbox irrelevant" as the console warriors claim, the Xbox division makes 1 billion USD per quarter. That's 4 billion a year. Their console is not gonna go anywhere anytime soon.
Putting their first party games on rival platforms does NOT equal to them discontinuing their console business and going full third party like sega.
This is just an option, for the consumer get their products and an option to make more money from consumers that NOT on their platforms.
Keep dreaming that microsoft, of 2019, under Satya Nadella and Phil Spencer's supervision, will still lock down exclusives to xbox like they did from 2001-2014. They won't, and you're in for a rude (funny for the rest of us) awakening.
@thevigilantecode I literally only read the ending of that novel lmfao no rude awaking here I couldn’t care less if they did or didn’t put their games on other platforms I’m just calling out bs wizards like you who think they know the future 😂😂
Bet u years from now Halo will still only be on Xbox and pc gtfo you know shit
@Zeegamereh Keep saying that while taking a deep breath and realizing Cuphead is going to release on the Switch NATIVELY.
Like I said earlier, you kids and your console warrior shitbubble, don't understand business of publicly traded multination corporations, let alone microsoft, of THE BIGGEST SOFTWARE/SERVICE giants of the world, to whom hardware is NO concern.
I hope they do in the future, this and Forza was the only reason I got a Xbox One, if they release it on PS4 then I can get rid of the Xbox as i think is it s a crap system and it is just gaining dust at the moment.
Lol if it's gathering dust then sell it. I did the same with my 1st ps4, every time I powered it up my wife thought an jumbo jet was landing.
Not happening at all unless Sony allows Xbox Live on their Platform which they sure as hell never will.
This might of been a good strategy bring the old games but say if you want to play the new ones you need to get a xbox for that
Halo dev comments on the rumor about Microsoft reevaluating loot boxes after Star War Battlefront 2 controversy.
I just feel they already need to scrap halo 6 completely and look back at halo 2 and 3 and remember what made this series actually fun. There hasnt been a good halo at all since 3.
Nani?!! Halo Reach was great and I consider that it was the last Halo with a great story. Halo 4 was an okay game but not great. Apart from Halo 5 horrible, false advertised campaign. The Multiplayer is amazing.
Halo Reach was alright,for anyone interested check out the SPV3 mod for Halo CE on PC ;)
Would love to see something similar to a combo of Halo3/ODST but knowing how Halo 5 ends I'm not sure
if that would fit 343i's vision.
"i actually like halo 5 too."
Really? HALO 5 MP had loot boxes ahead of EA MP games. It still has them. They are called REQ Packs but they are the same thing as loot boxes. HALO 5 has gotten a complete pass on this.
@Morganfell
and the last of us had loot boxes before plants versus zombies garden warfare, which had them before halo 5. what’s your point? The loot box system in halo 5 is probably the best set up there is, much like Overwatch did after it and Titanfall 2 did as well. No bearing on gameplay,you can purchase everything with in game currency other then special cosmetics that they’d sell as a set, And they have been releasing consistent content for over 2 years now at no additional cost. That is the right way to do loot boxes
@morganfell
"HALO 5 has gotten a complete pass on this."
Lol you what? I still remember some of the crocodile tears shed about this when it was released. What kind of complete FUD are you spreading?
Also, over 2 years later, people have seen just how the game benefitted from this with FREE DLC. The req packs were relegated to rewards in the Warzone mode only and even then, you had to earn the weapon you unlocked via REQ packs.
And Halo fans did love Halo 5's multiplayer. That still stands as the best console exclusive FPS out there in that regard. Try again...
"The loot box system in halo 5 is probably the best set up there is"
That is a contradictory statement. When it is a form of multiplayer that allows you to purchase superior weapons then there is no such thing as a good setup.
The Last of Us? Do you think I am going to change my mind because you brought that up? You are blindly allegiant but I am not.
How wrong you are. You can excuse scab behavior because it is on a system you worship but I will not.
Any game made by any manufacturer or publisher that has loot boxes in Multiplayer that provide anything other than cosmetics, that is to say provides a competitive advantage, and said loot boxes may be purchased with real money then that is an implementation belonging to a game that should be boycotted and publicly ripped.
HALO 5 has loot boxes in Multiplayer. Period. Keep pointing fingers and I'll laugh as you poke out your own eye.
EDIT:
"Gold REQ Packs contain a large number of Uncommon to Legendary single use REQs. Players are also guaranteed at least two new permanent REQs, if available. Gold REQ Packs are the only source of Mythic items."
Since you do not know exactly what you are getting, only that it contains "Uncommon to Legendary single use REQs" you can add gambling to the list.
I don't get what the deal is with Halo fans that don't like Halo 5. Is it just because you play as Locke for 60% of the game and the lack of couch co-op? I feel like some fans are being a bit ridiculous. The story was fantastic, gameplay is great, and the graphics were great too. I know someone who is a die-hard Halo fan, and refused to buy the game just because it didn't have couch co-op.... give me a break!
Halo 5 loot boxes are fairly inoffensive. I actually agree that they should be recognised as pay to win smegboxes, but they're tucked away in the casual, accessible game mode. The competitive modes are kept pure and honest.
It really isn't a bad trade-off for the free map packs.
'Any game made by any manufacturer or publisher that has loot boxes in Multiplayer that provide anything other than cosmetics, that is to say provides a competitive advantage, and said loot boxes may be purchased with real money then that is an implementation belonging to a game that should be boycotted and publicly ripped. '.
So any MP game that adds weapons after launch that can be purchased with real money should be publicly ripped?
"Nostalgia is one hell of a drug"
So that doesn't make it a great game?
I still love space invaders... Nostalgic? Yeh.... But its still the same game today.
The multiplayer in Halo 5 is top notch and widely regarded as one of the best this gen.
But for the campaign you are right. There are obvious things that made previous Halo campaigns amazing that they are choosing to ignore.
Are you fucking insane? No its not. You'd have to ignore a lot of fucking people to claim that H5's MP is some of the best this gen. Shit's garbage.
@spicelicka
Lmfao, yes because downvotes on N4G are a way better metric to determine Halo 5's quality than I don't know... maybe its poor sales compared to the rest of the franchise?
@constantine_man
Talk to me when you can find a game that has controls as solid as Halo 5, arena gameplay, non-arena gameplay, PvP, PvE, PvPvE, vehicles and big team battle.
Talk to me when you can find a game that has all that and the ability to literally make your own maps, your own game modes, and host them in a custom games browser to play with other players.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Halo 3 final mission recreated in Halo 5 with scripted events.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Battlefield 1 vehicles created in Halo 5.
Talk to me when you can find a game right now that does all this without mods.
Mp wise no fps can compete. So much content it's ridiculous. Halos on another level. Then you add forge and you get more than just a fps game but a sports, racer, zombie, parkour, maze, etc. The list of potential is endless.
Constantine Halo 5 set a record for money made. Poor sales? ROFL 5 million (not including digital and bundles which tend to be half of it's sales) in under 3 months if that's poor than sign me up lol
The series is fun and continues to evolve. The story needs work but to say they need to look back at 2 or 3 makes me think you haven't played the series since then. 5 was said to have the best multiplayer since 2, I would agree.
You are insane if you think H5 comes close to touching the original trilogy MP wise. It plays absolutely nothing like classic Halo. To compare H5 to H2 mp-wise is retarded.
With all due respect, no one even knows much at all about 6. Why would you want them to scrap what you don’t know. Studios are aware of the feedback and reception games get, as well as fan responses to the overall arc and trend of a franchise. Just like the big ADS controvery in 5 etc...
Because loot boxes are in 5?
Maybe that is why they are talking about it now. Especially since it was a pay 2 win set up in halo 5.
Dumbest thing I’ve heard all day. Soon as they do that you’ll be complaining they didn’t make enough new changes. Besides Galo 5 has arguably the best MP of the series.
"Besides Galo 5 has arguably the best MP of the series."
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Let me know when 343i puts out a game relevant enough for people outside Xbox fanboys.
Yet you nor I have seen ANYTHING ABOUT HALO 6. NOT EVEN A SCREENSHOT. HOW CAN ANYONE AGREE WITH THIS
I’m the opposite, Bungie played it too safe and the games just added a little more with each instalment. 343 take risks, changed things up, instead of added shields one year, a new grenade type the next, to crazy high jumping while weighing a ton...🤨
What's been said about Halo 6 that would lead you to that conclusion already? Can you even confirm that there is a Halo 6? Follow the link and you will find this quote in 343's (Stinkles) post (#62):
"We have made zero announcements about our next projects and continue to work on our next game and technology with player's needs and interests in mind."
Note that they use the plural, "projects", suggesting that perhaps something besides Halo 6 may be coming from 343 this fall but we all know Halo 6 is inevitable.
Halo 6 is happening but rumor has a different Halo game will be releasing
Honestly, Chief, I hope 343 is working on something besides another Halo offshoot and that Halo 6 is actually on the back burner for next year or later. IMO, Halo 5 has strong MP that continues to be popular so MS would be better off keeping it in play and gaining a new IP instead of replacing it with another Halo.
343 has already destroyed the Halo franchise. It's a shell of it's former self.
343 can not for the life of them....design a good multiplayer map.
What they think is good.....is not good. They have terrible taste in maps.
Halo 4&5 are terrible.
Right, so good EA basically ripped it off to make it into mass effect andromeda then proceeded to release it a year before it was ready
They aren't saying there are no loot boxes. Halo 5 has loot boxes.
They are saying a rumour that was going around about a knee-jerk reaction to the Battlefront 2 controversy has no basis in reality. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Actually he kind of did say that 343 is evaluating the next game game, so they're kind of working on it.
You know a word is like a two edge sword. Cutting to the chase... By your own question I discern that you buy mostly Micro transaction games. Otherwise your question itself would be stupid.
I have avoided them except the one I didn't do research on and it was not good. I'm not missing out on anything. Micro transactions make for bad game play and being $$$ sucker.
I think armour should be unlocked separately from req weapons and power ups.
This. I have never touched a lootbox or MT in Halo 5 and I have enjoyed the game thoroughly without restrictions.
They need to get back to what made the franchise great campaign wise. Halo 5 has amazing arena MP, but that campaign was atrocious. They didn't focus on the Chief and made Cortana a villian. WTF.
Nonsense! Cortana is dead.
I can't wait to play the Halo 5 campaign. I hope nobody posts any legit spoilers before tomorrow.
Are you serious. If so I apologize for the spolier. I can't tell if you're being for real. And btw 3 disagrees come on people that story sucked.
Says the man that just said someone is dead! REALLY!? Then you complained about spoilers?
Lol no I'm not serious, don't worry. I doubt there is anyone that cares about the Halo story, likes games (enough to visit N4G), and hasn't played the game yet. And if that person exists then they'd be really stupid to read the comments on an article about Halo 6 ;)
"but our current req system is player focused and well liked" I think well liked is stretching it a little lol. what would make it better is if you could actually spend points you have earned on certain armour instead of random armour and actually make the armour variants good like in halo reach
It's one of the fairest lootbox systems yet. You don't have to touch it if you don't want to and even if you want to you can do so without spending real cash
I agree it's one of the better systems and I never spend cash but the point I'm making is if there's a certain armour I really like I would like to save points and get that armour instead of buying random packs until I get it which could actually be never
His position that the armour variants are somehow worse than Reach's is rose tinted nostalgia.
Halo 5 is one of my fav games this gen, and i haven't even played the sp. I wasn't even a halo fan before.
You should read what one verified 343 employee says though,I wouldn't expect much from this rumor.
The only way they'll listen is when a game totally tanks,otherwise you're wasting your time.
Just needs to release a Halo game that works and has a story that people want.
But for sure, it will be monetized.
Halo went to turd after Halo Reach. Now it's just another franchise being milked dry by Microsoft because they can't come up with anything new.
It's become the Microsoft exclusive equivalent of what CoD's become.
ROFL you haven't even played it. Oh the irony, so the franchise became milked after reach xD how so?
Reach was the worst in the series
@Blades exactly lol they have no clue about halo
Where Reach's MP messed up was in allowing players to choose there abilities in loadouts. This totally threw the game off balance, and that armor lock ability was one of the worse ever. In Halo 5, every gamer has the same exact abilities...its just how well do you use them that separates you from the next.
I thought it was a fantastic shakeup. Each skirmish was diverse and tactical approach of the Halo community was fantastic according the loadouts. Sprinting,jet pack and other abilities gave Halo a new lease on life proving thats its twitch gameplay could be altered successfully.
Bungie crafted a winner.
HELL NO! Reach was the most unbalance BS ever. Someone needs to take your Halo card away after this.
My Halo card was stamped since launch on the original Xbox back in the glory days of split screen and LAN.
Reach was great.
Halo 6 needs the following:
1. No LOOT BOXES and NO MT. Look for the epic fiasco of EA with Battlefront 2.
2. The story needs a refresh twist and a MUCH LONGER campaign alternating linear and OPEN WORLD scenarios.
3. Include lots of vehicles to use. That's the fun of the series.
4. The versus in Halo 5 was very solid. Keep augmenting that experience as it is.
5. The forge needs more DEGREES OF FREEDOM and more detailed content. Bring better toolset.
Halo has one of the best gun play. It's a franchise with a future but that future needs more than what happened in Halo 5. The campaign needs to be epic, longer, satisfying with replay value, there should be a sense of exploration and complexity on the campaign levels.
A remake of Halo CE 1, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 4 and an update for Halo 5 with current graphics is a great start. I would buy these set of games without hesitation if the upgrades and fixes are done extensively. Microsoft has the money to pull off a great experience. It's up to them if they are trully interested on the success of the franchise.
Disagree. It's money generated through MTs that are allowing 343 to make map packs and other content for free while keeping the player base intact. All past Halos split its user base with every map pack released...i remember buying a Halo 4 map pack and never being able to playa match on said maps due to not everyone else in the match having said map pack. To me that's a waste of money.
You are free to disagree.
I will not support MT and loot boxes in any form or shame as a natural form of business. If you want to get milked and run along those lines you are free to do so. I don't expect people to agree with me. I'm in complete opposition against MT and loot boxes. Look for example the fiasco of Battlefront 2.
Except I'm not getting killed at all because I never use real money to buy any of the packs, only in-game currency in Halo 5. If OPTIONAL MTs are keeping new maps and modes free than I'm all for it.
If we feed MT and loot boxes or gambling we are shooting ourselves in the left foot. We are endorsing exploitation and greed. If we do that, we are sending the wrong message to investors and publicists.
Simple.
Master Chief Collection has been out for awhile, and the One X update for H5 is really good. It's one of those things where people make these suggestions without realizing they're insanely vague "if the upgrades and fixes are done extensively." What does that even mean? Or "epic, longer, satisfying with replay value" Halo 5 campaign had some good moments Battle of Sunaion would fit that bill for sure, is it end to end good? No, but no Halo campaign is, they can't all be Silent Cartographer sometimes you end up with missions like Quarantine Zone (H2).
I agree with you in spirit, but man making games isn't easy.
WeebLord:
"It's one of those things where people make these suggestions without realizing they're insanely vague "if the upgrades and fixes are done extensively." "
Insanely vague? Let us see that rebuttal. Look for example the full remake of shadows of the colossus. The kernel of the game remained identical but the update happened on the graphic engine and almost all the models in the game. The new Shadows of the Colossus addresses "Upgrades and fixes are done extensively"
"Or "epic, longer, satisfying with replay value" Halo 5 campaign had some good moments Battle of Sunaion would fit that bill for sure, is it end to end good?"
Epic longer campaigns can easily be exemplified with HORIZON ZERO DOWN campaign. The campaign in Horizon Zero Down is long, satisfying and has replay value providing new items for the repetition of the whole campaign with better weapons and equipment.
Halo schemes are way too linear, they are hardly open world and doesn't offer much exploration. Bungie had an experience that is greater than ten years doing games. 343 inherited a great franchise but the whole thing remained linear instead of being open world. The XBONEX has the muscle to work with harder tasks. Why not remake the franchise that placed XBOX on the spot? Microsoft has the money to invest in personnel, modelers, programmers and game designers. Ask them to INVEST instead of being so STINGY.
How can it be greed when they are creating tons of FREE content for the game that again, does not split its user base?
I have no problem with few packs because they are so easy to get by playing. I got a boat load that need to be opened
Halo 5 is the absolutely best approach the series has ever had in terms of not splitting the playerbase...and I love that. Say what you want but Halo 5 has had awesome post launch support and the vast majority if it has been free...thats what's most important to me. Despite that 343 has been able to keep money generating through MTs and I hope this exact approach continues in Halo 6.
So...he didn't deny there would be loot boxes. He just said they haven't decided on anything yet.
I'm sure Req packs will return. They'd be stupid not to. Free map pack and dlc so the player base isn't split was the best thing to happen to halo since forge. keep reqs exclusive to warzone and easy to earn in game. 5 was the best mp in the series. Do what you did with 5 best new maps and weapon tweaks maybe add equipment to spice it up and focus the rest of your energy on campaign.
Already had them in 5 which made the game arguably pay o win in a way, they will be in 6
Wrong. MT's in Halo 5 are purely cosmetic only. It does nothing to give you an advantage against another player in MP. Not all MTs are made equally
Might have changed but from what i remember, Req cards gave you equipment including tanks, if one side is constantly pulling out Scorpion tanks and high level arms (which ive had happen before) while all you can pull out is a warthog and a thanks for coming, the advantage lies on the side with the tanks, you can get the cards through play but you can also buy them. while not 100% pay to win you can pay for an advantage at least.
Now you're talking about the level system. You can't just pull out tanks for no reason haha...you have to reach a high enough level within each match to be able to pull out that tank to begin with. It's completely balanced my friend. You can have 300 tanks in your personal arsenal, but if your team never reaches a high enough level, you ain't deploying them...
What a surprise, no direct answer.
Translation: MT's will be packed in Halo 6.
You can take that to the bank.
I'm not surprised Halo haven't been selling that well since Bungie left and with Halo being M$ most important IP you god damn right they gonna add MT to the game
More fake news from resetera. Don't believe a single thing that comes from that forum. They already debunked and closed the thread.
Report this "news".
I've enjoyed every Halo, but they really need to scrap the REQ system, go back to unlocking by actually playing and not having hundreds of amours you will never get unless you pay for lootboxes.
You do unlock by playing. I have 97% of all helmets and armor unlocked. Without paying a dime. The only ones I'm missing are based off of Spartan company accommodations and champion rank
Haha, awesome title.
I'm definitely hoping 343i can pack Halo 4 with a story that's exciting and emotional. An in-game video editor would be nice too.
to be honest halo reach wasn't as fun as halo 3 and me and my friends would always hold private matches on forge maps and reach well..... it died off in like 5 months =P i hope halo 4 is as fun as halo 3
343 should make a game first (Halo) before they start talking like they are the standard. They inherited Halo and should feel lucky, be humble and embrace what was handed to them.
Yup. This is true.
and the fact that Black OPs has been #1 on Xbox Live since release proves that the games aren't boring. Quite the opposite actually.