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Halo dev: Players only get bored of boring games

VG247 writes: 343 Industries isn’t worried about franchise fatigue with the Halo series, because it’s not just pumping out sequels.

aviator1894997d ago (Edited 4997d ago )

Haha, awesome title.
I'm definitely hoping 343i can pack Halo 4 with a story that's exciting and emotional. An in-game video editor would be nice too.

ARTISAN4997d ago

to be honest halo reach wasn't as fun as halo 3 and me and my friends would always hold private matches on forge maps and reach well..... it died off in like 5 months =P i hope halo 4 is as fun as halo 3

StanLee4997d ago

I love Halo Reach but I will admit that I found myself going back to Halo 3 even though I felt Reach was more polished. I still play both but I guess there is a certain affinity to Halo 3. It's the first online community on the consoles I truly became a part of coming from Unreal 2004 on the PC.

mandf4997d ago

343 should make a game first (Halo) before they start talking like they are the standard. They inherited Halo and should feel lucky, be humble and embrace what was handed to them.

Micro_Sony4997d ago

Do you even know who Frank O'Connor is?

343 is part Bungie with a different name and some new employees but some of the vets that made Halo what it is now are on 343.

mandf4997d ago

Other than a few select people from Bungie that stayed behind , it's a new studio. The vast majority of 343 are all new to Halo. 343 has yet to make a Halo and shouldn't try to make themselves out to be more than they are. A new studio. I wish them luck. Developers need to let their games do the talking. Hype and lose lips are the bane of this industry.

palaeomerus4997d ago

Actually lots of people who worked on Halo have moved on from Bungie since Halo came out. Halo 2, 3, ODST, and Reach were not made by most of the people who worked on Halo. Bungie expanded a great deal since MS bought them and there was also some turnover when they left MS to go independent again. They've hired some new people since they started working on their new IP. Nothing is static.

The ONLY real concern I have about Bungie vs. 343 Industries is the lack of Marty O'Donnell on the sound track.

Micro_Sony4997d ago (Edited 4997d ago )

I agree with you about developers need to let their games do the talking (looking at you Cliffy B and David Jaffe)

But 343 have hired some very talented people and I think Halo 4 is in good hands - the fact that they let go some guy that worked on Metal Gear Solid because he wanted to make a cinematic Halo shows you that 343 is not playing around and want to make sure that Halo 4 is AAA status.

Just to name a few employees.

Corrinne Yu –Principal Engine Programmer on Halo 4 (Director of Technology of Gearbox Software, creator of Borderlands, Lead Engine Programmer of 3D Realms, creator of Prey, Director of Technology of ION Storm, creator of Deus Ex and Anachronox)

Ray Almaden - Lead Level Designer on Halo 4 (former Senior Designer at EA, Guerilla Games and Sony Computer Entertainment Europe)

Dan Ayoub –Executive Producer for Publishing (former Senior Producer at Ubisoft and EA, Game Director at Propoganda Games)

Josh Holmes – Studio Creative Director, Creative Director on Halo 4 (former VP and General Manager of Propoganda Games, Lead Designer at EA

Kenneth Scott - Senior Art Director on Halo 4 (former Art Director at id Software

Sotaro Tojima –Audio Director on Halo 4 (former Sound Designer and Audio Director at Kojima Productions)

Scott Warner –Lead Game Designer on Halo 4 (former Designer at Pandemic and Black Isle Studios)

Brad Welch –Lead Designer on Halo 4 (former Lead Designer at EA, Pandemic Studios)

Jesse Snyder - Lead Designer on Halo 4 (former designer at Treyarch, purported creator of the Nazi Zombies gametype)

Fredrik Persson - Lead Gameplay Engineer (former Lead Programmer at Pandemic Studios)

Ryan Payton - Narrative Designer on Halo 4 (former Assistant Producer at Kojima Productions, freelance writer)

Brien Goodrich - Cinematic Director on Halo 4 (former Art Lead at Turn 10 Studios, Lighting Supervisor and Associate Art Director at FASA Studios)

sack_boi4997d ago (Edited 4997d ago )

Damn. It's the "All Stars" of the videogame industry.

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narutogameking4997d ago

Yup. This is true.
and the fact that Black OPs has been #1 on Xbox Live since release proves that the games aren't boring. Quite the opposite actually.

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Frank O'Connor, Halo franchise director, has left Microsoft

O'Connor has been with the Halo franchise since it was with Bungie, and it appears that his time with the series--and Microsoft--is done.

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Vengeance1138791d ago

Yet another nail in the Halo franchise coffin. Even Microsoft themselves moved on from the IP after replacing it with Starfield on console boxes.

Lifexline791d ago

This is actually a good thing halo fans have wanted Frank and Bonnie gone from 343 so hopefully things get better with them gone.

Godmars290790d ago

Weren't they brought in to fix what 343 has been doing?

SullysCigar790d ago

Nah, Frank was OG, from back in the days when Halo was good, before 343i came along. What the franchise needs is: 1. a substantial rest, 2. a reboot and 3. a decent pool of the original team that made the magic in the early days.

Only then will they have a chance at having anyone give a crap again. Frank leaving is not a good start on that journey.

InUrFoxHole789d ago

@God
Yeah Frank was but from my understanding that was it for him. Fix that sh!t show and move on

-Mika-791d ago

Microsoft has COD now. They no longer need Halo. 343 Is going through a complete reboot and getting rid of the old and bringing in the new. The Halo franchise is getting a complete reboot to appeal to a new generation of fans. I expect to see a new game by the end of the next gen Xbox.

Vengeance1138791d ago

Doesn't your end statement counter your first? You expect to see a new Halo game by the end of the next gen Xbox that as you say MS doesn't need? I wouldn't expect to ever see another Halo game again if its not needed.

-Mika-790d ago

What I meant to say is that there is no longer any urgency. MS used to release a Halo mainline or spinoff every year or two. They used to make sure there was Halo at the start of every console launch. I no longer see them doing that. Now, they are not going to abandon it because the series still has a lot of value. I expect a new Mainline title by the mid or end of the next Xbox.

derek790d ago

@Mika, Why not both? Managing you most important ip thus far would only be bolstered by add cod to your portfolio.

Lightning77790d ago

Because Halo isn't carrying Xbox to a new gen like they always have in the past like you said. That, Forza and Gears games. The Forza Creative Director left to make a new studio The Coalition took a hiatus to learn Unreal Engine 5 and will return to Gears at some point (rumor is they did return to Gears but still years away from release)

MS Trifecta is getting old and tired I mean that from a studio point of view of the only studios carrying the Xbox every gen. Once MS employed new studios to help develop games for the console, old studio heads and leads are all going there sesperate ways.

It's what happens when you have the same 4 or 5 studios for years on end. Burn out.

BehindTheRows790d ago

CoD is remaining multiplatform. Besides, you don’t abandon a high profile property just because of an impending acquisition. That’s…. not how business works. At all.

Halo just needs a new shot in the arm to get it going again.

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BandarHub790d ago

Its actually a nail removed from Halo's Coffin.
If you know who this person is you would agree that he should have left the studio after Halo 5

XiNatsuDragnel791d ago

Good luck with your future endeavors

IamTylerDurden1790d ago

Fallout of a failed game. Your TGA player's choice goty 87 meta lol. Idgaf. Dreams was great yet it failed and the director left. That's what happens. Halo was average from the jump yet showered with praise. Now many hate the game. Funny.

porkChop790d ago

The gameplay, mechanics, and feel of Halo Infinite are top notch. That's why everyone praised it initially. It was with the expectation that 343 would keep a steady stream of content and updates coming to keep the game alive, which 343 failed miserably at.

slate91790d ago

This is a good thing for Halo

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Was Halo: The Master Chief Collection Considered for PS4?

Franchise director weighs in on wild rumour.

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-Foxtrot2191d ago (Edited 2191d ago )

Still

Plans, considered, what if etc

Anything with Halo on the PlayStation, even brought up, hints at Microsoft’s far future plans

Parasidious2191d ago

Matt Booty said in Eurogamer interview during E3 that Microsoft is open to bringing future Halo titles to PS consoles if Sony would want them to.

-Foxtrot2191d ago (Edited 2191d ago )

That Xbox app is looking more likely in the far future

Microsoft buying those studios all of a sudden seems like it was so they can produce more games as a third party publisher imo

mafiabrett2191d ago

I would Welcome Microsoft as a huge publisher for any and all game platforms as long as they keep a hands off approach to the games the devs are producing. They have the money to do so and can help so many devs in realizing their dreams with monetary support

LegoIsAwesome2191d ago

I guess microsoft thinks that if they bring some xbox one exclusive to their competitor, the console (xbox one) might acquire some exclusives from sony and nintendo

dumahim2191d ago

@-Foxtrot

Hope not. Sony needs competition.

nibblo2191d ago

He talked about Minecraft being on Playstation an ip that has always been on Playstation - that is all.

rainslacker2191d ago

Sony wouldn't prevent it so long as ms pays for the license and keeps the release within the certification rules. If MS wants Sony to bend the rules for them, then they probably won't, because that's exceedingly rare, and they typically make rules that any dev can use in those situations.

Sony could ask, but if MS wants it released in PS, then they can go through the process of becoming a licensed publisher like everyone else.

bouzebbal2190d ago

When is gamepass coming to ps consoles??

Zeegamereh2190d ago

I read it I don’t see where he says he’s open to Brining halo to ps lmao that wouldn’t even be his choice but only the higher ups stop being silly

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Hardiman2191d ago

With the way M$ is positioning Xbox I wouldn't be surprised if they don't eventually pull a Sega. I mean in a weird way Xbox was like a spiritual successor to Dreamcast so it would all come full circle.

rainslacker2191d ago (Edited 2191d ago )

I wouldn't say in a weird way. Xbox is definitely a product of Sega leaving the console business, the same way PS was a direct product of Nintendo snubbing Sony. MS worked with Sega to have their place in the industry with windows CE and helped Sega design the system. They lost that when Sega dropped out, but they took a lot of what they implemented or were hoping to implement on dreamcast and made the first xbox. I think the only big difference was using directx as the core api of the system...which made sense given what DX did for PC development.

KillBill2190d ago

The entire reason Sega pulled a "Sega" was because of lack of funding to stay in the hardware part of the business vs PlayStation. Microsoft does not have that issue.

Rynxie2190d ago

Many of the people behind the Sega dreamcast actually joined Microsoft and we're involved in the making of the Xbox.

blackblades2191d ago

Probably a future plan if next hardware doesnt cut it. Probably move to that service plan app and play anywhere even on a competitor console.

xX-oldboy-Xx2191d ago

It'd sell more on PS4 than xbox - wouldn't that be funny.

Obscure_Observer2190d ago

@xX-oldboy-Xx

"It'd sell more on PS4 than xbox - wouldn't that be funny."

Yes, specially considering how Halo is hated by some "PS fans". Lol

xX-oldboy-Xx2190d ago

Obscure - It's a bet I'd take, fairly confidently too 😁

UltraNova2190d ago

Obscure,

Again with your hyperbole...no PS fan I know hates Halo.

rainslacker2189d ago

We don't hate Halo. We hate the people that act like it's the biggest thing ever, and that it's MS ace in the hole, usually with a good dose of downplaying of anything that Sony also has to offer.

I personally have no real opinion of Halo, but I recognize the technical merits it has exhibited over the years, and what it's brought to the FPS genre. Plus, it's given us Red vs. Blue, albeit indirectly, and that makes it worthwhile.

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nibblo2191d ago

It also hints at a whole lot of baseless conjecture.

UnholyLight2191d ago

I honestly believe if Halo migrates to a competitor, the entire reason to own an Xbox (not considering PC) becomes irrelevant in a sense - yes there's still Forza and Gears, but THE face of your namesake is no longer an exclusive experience.

Rynxie2190d ago

If they do not plan to continue the franchise, they might as well sell it outside of their console and generate more sales for the franchise. They can't keep selling halo remakes to the same fan base. It will eventually decline in sales. People won't keep buying HD, remakes, remasters and so on of the same game forever.

Obscure_Observer2190d ago

@-Foxtrot

"We’ve had plenty of those over the years but not one line of code was even glanced at."

Translation:

Broken dreams. ;)

Profchaos2190d ago

Retrospectivly 25 years ago in sonic featuring on a non Sega console and a Nintendo console at that was a insane idea but today Sega constantly publish titles to all platforms.

Things happen and the industry grows Microsoft may be looking to exit the console space after scarlet and lean towards the cloud which would allow them to function on anything as long as the gateway service owner greenlights it.

So they could operate similar to EA access potentially

rainslacker2189d ago

Sega released Sonic CD on PC in the 486 era. I think I had a 386 at the time.

At the time, no one claimed that Sega was leaving the console race, or was it even considered. I also don't recall people claiming that Sega was going to look into going the 3rd party route. It's rather strange how it wasn't until the internet age really took off that such pontification about if a console maker was leaving or not was really discussed. Usually when it happened, it just happened, and if consoles dying was discussed, it was just because PC was seeing a surge.

Sega had also a game streaming service, and a game download service. They had subscription services. They had pretty much everything MS has now, in a much earlier and less widely available form. Yet, Sega was never claimed to be "the future" of gaming as if it was an exclusive title to bestow upon a single entity or idea.

Absonite2190d ago

Microsoft has always had open arms to everyone working together.

rainslacker2189d ago (Edited 2189d ago )

LOL. Not really. It's a "meaningful gulf" as this guy says.

I think the Halo on PS talk seemed more like MS trying to play the good guy than having any real serious intent to do so, or even look into it.

If we're talking about xCloud or Game Pass, that's probably a no-go, or it's going to be extremely limited on the selection, because Sony isn't likely to allow Xbox licensed games to run on their console, even if only through streaming or within a closed structure like Game Pass. Even if it were possible to do seemlessly locally, it's unlikely, and downloaded games aren't just a matter of throwing the game up on the console, as Sony's API's do not support directX programming calls.

That said, if MS wants to produce games and build them to the PS console, as a third party publisher, Sony wouldn't stop them. They can even do XBL logins, so long as they're done through compliance standards. Minecraft wasn't rejected because of the XBL login, but because MS wanted to control the updates, and lock them behind XBL logins, which is a big no-no when it comes to compliance standards. Even the major publishers cant feed updates or user content from their own servers....just use those logins for authentications purposes. Even with cross play, Sony isn't allowing Epic to do it. Whether that's right or not is another discussion, but that's the way it is right now.

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VivaChe2191d ago

As a PS4 owner I'd buy that.

Snookies122191d ago (Edited 2191d ago )

Yeah, the MCC is a fantastic collection. I just wish Halo 3 had gotten the remake love that 1-2 did on there... (I think 1 and 2 were both remakes, if I'm not mistaken. Can't quite remember.) I'm just waiting on the PC version currently. I've always enjoyed the Halo games, I just haven't owned an Xbox in so long I haven't been able to play them recently.

Rude-ro2191d ago

Combat evolved was the remake that was released last gen.
Halo 2 was upgraded the same way for the collection

Snookies122191d ago

@Rude-ro - Ah, that was it. So yeah, I just wish they'd given Halo 3 the same treatment... I think 3 might have been my favorite, though I still have such fond memories of Halo 2's multi-player with my friends back in the day. People would just leave Xbox controllers at my house all the time. I had like 9 of them piled up from those days.

CobraKai2191d ago

I thought 3 looked good. Not 2 remake good, but the bump to native 1080p made it pop.

rainslacker2189d ago

I would have too, but I brought it for the X1 when I purchased it. I thought I'd like to complete the series, because I like the lore that exists within it, and I find it an enjoyable FPS, despite my dislike of the genre overall.

But, after playing it for a while, i really couldn't get into it. Story was fine, but it never got me going. Kind of sucks, because I do like a lot of the narrative surrounding the series, and it's spin off media....and especially Red vs. Blue.

I'd recommend it to anyone who likes FPS or doesn't mind them, and wants to play a game with a good story, and it's MP is also pretty well thought of, so I can't say that it's not worth it, even though I dislike MP too.:)

The collection itself is pretty impressive though, and as a PS4 owner, I'd have no problem with it coming to PS4. I'm sure many PS gamers would enjoy it as much as MS gamers....especially since the vast majority of people don't center their lives around console preference.

flaming_scorpion2191d ago

I would definitely cop if this became a thing.

Longadog2191d ago

...not another pew pew game (a decrepit one to be exact)

no thanks

ChrisW2190d ago

You and Longadog don't want it? That's fine... Sheep like you don't deserve to play it in the first place.

Let real gamers decide if they'd want to purchase it on the PS and stay out of their business!

Born2Game832190d ago

@ChrisW hold the press. We got a REAL gamer here.

spicelicka2191d ago

All games are pew pew and stab stab if you're narrow minded enough. If you don't care to enjoy one of the greatest franchises then it's your loss and doesn't affect anyone else.

Longadog2191d ago

one of the greatest ... lol .... okaaaaay

dumahim2191d ago

Forza is pew pew or stab stab?

Snookies122191d ago (Edited 2191d ago )

I can understand if you don't like the direction Halo is taking now. (I really don't like Halo 4 or 5.) But, to act like it's just a minor franchise, or "just another shooter" is very simple-minded. Regardless of what you think, it's still a massive franchise and well deserving of it. Not to mention quite unique in the way it plays that sets it apart from a lot of other shooters.

spicelicka2191d ago (Edited 2191d ago )

You honestly don't know that Halo is one of the greatest franchises? Like seriously, trolling and lack of interest aside?

You're telling me a franchise with one of the most recognizable icons, such a deep lore and backstory that has books/tv shows, one of the most recognizable soundtracks, innovate gameplay that put console online multiplayer on the map and inspired dozens of FPS yet the oldest installment still manages to have a healthy multiplayer population, is not one of the greatest? Also happens to be one of the highest selling and critically acclaimed franchises. I don't think you want to go there my friend, your bias won't win you this battle.

Longadog2191d ago (Edited 2191d ago )

oh please.. its just mostly you green babies that is still pushing to milk this dying cow. you act like the gaming world halts to a standstill if this franchise is shelved ..

last time i checked, those books and shows you so proudly shouted just went by with a whimper (oh you mean the critically acclaimed netflix halo? lol ) anyhow, who gets royalties when halo books and shows gets published? i wonder what company is desperately trying to keep this franchise relevant. resident evil movies has been milked to death, do you qualify that to be great as well? maybe you just have a crappy criteria on calling anything “great”. then again ms has a habit of doing that too. not surprised at all..

great? goodness how many more flops do you need.

sixthelement2191d ago

Lol another pew pew? Let me guess you love your single player super linear japanese otaku games or crappy failures like The Order? Is it because PS never could release a single pew pew game to even match this? Now you've given up on all fps' and just consider them pew pew! xD

Longadog2191d ago (Edited 2191d ago )

oh right, because halo is one of ms big three right? or should i say only three ;)

the order? scraping the barrel i see ... you must be really desperate to use that game as an example .. good try though

japanese otaku .. sure sweetheart

chiefJohn1172190d ago

Ignorance is bliss. Halo is more than a shooter btw but you wouldn't know nothing about that.

Rynxie2190d ago

What the hell are you talking about? There haven't been as much shooters this gen compared to the last. I welcome more shooters. Last gen we had resistance, killzone, mag, socom, warhawk, starhawk and so on. We also had shooters from third party developers.

spicelicka2190d ago (Edited 2190d ago )

Haha clearly you have more disagrees than agrees. The PC community exploded in March when MCC was announced for PC. The argument is that it's one of the greatest throughout its existence, and that is factually true no matter how much you cry "green babes" (whatever that means). You can't find multiplayer like it anywhere else.

And I own a Ps4 myself so your little jabs don't work.

Longadog2190d ago (Edited 2190d ago )

oh no, just look at those disagrees ... guess i should be worried now, huh? ;) you hoping those will make my statement less true, perhaps?

the worst performing team in the nba will still have its die hard fans. not because logic dictates the team has a shot at being on the top but because its the only one they have... but i'm sure, you are not that kind of a fan, right?
just calling a spade for what it really is. you can disagree all you want but bringing it anywhere else doesn't make it less decrepit as it is right now (not your books, not your lore, not your shows). surprise surprise, not all people are into that nostalgia hat of yours

"exploded", "greatest", "can't find multiplayer like it anywhere else" - ....and we just successfully ran a full circle folks. just gotta love some of these ms fans :D

"The PC community exploded in March when MCC was announced for PC" - now i need to borrow this and use it as a sig just for the lulz

Lennoxb632190d ago (Edited 2190d ago )

A lot of your PS exclusives have that "pew pew" you speak of. TLOU, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Resistance, MGS (exclusive up until 5), Death Stranding, Killzone, etc.

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Elda2191d ago

If I wanted another shooter to play on my Pro I rather it be Killzone 2 & 3 remastered instead of a Halo collection.

GamerFrank852191d ago

Yikes. Looks like Killzone just wasnt good enough since they stopped making em...

micdagoat192191d ago

Ive never seen anybody even ask for Killzone before now

Rynxie2190d ago

Killzone is amazing. I have been asking for a remastered as well. Kz2 and 3 on the ps5? Yes, please!!

snoopgg2190d ago

Killzone 2 and 3 were great. I always liked the series better than halo. You guys negating that Killzone 2 wasn't a great game should actually play it.

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Abnor_Mal2191d ago

I'm there with you. I guess that's two people asking for Killzone over Halo any day, week, month, year.

spicelicka2191d ago

Why not both? If you put your fanboy hard on aside you can have 2 nice things, common sense. Like the unnecessary need to bring killzone into this just screams insecurity. And I guess you're right...that's two people.

Ausbo2191d ago

Killzone over halo? Poor guy. You’ve gone mad

Abnor_Mal2191d ago

Hm, interesting, I thought I was responding to Elda and indirectly to micdagoat19.

@spicelicka Why not both? Because I already stated that I don't care for the look of Halo from the first game, but fifth like Gear, maybe I shouldn't have brought them into the conversation either. Yet, I was not the one to initially bring Killzone into this.
It's an article about two platforms, so what's the problem of me bring up a specific game and how I feel. Yeah talk about insecurities that people are so easily bruised that the slightest deviation from what they want to read sends them into a tizzy. I'd you hated what I said just then, maybe not what i wrote first a bit further down. Me saying I prefer one over the other some how lacks common sense? Sounds like you're the one lacking, so I guess that makes three. Fanboy warrior.

chiefJohn1172190d ago

If a "look" is stopping you, you're the one missing out

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CurbStompin2191d ago

Killzone "The Halo Killer" LMAO.... that was great.

Zeegamereh2189d ago

U can’t be fkn serious 😂😂😂 theres a reason that game is dead stop being a fan boy

Elda2189d ago

Yes I 'm completely serious. Again if I had to play a series of shooters remastered I rather play KZ 2 & 3 instead of that tired BS Halo. KZ 2&3 were great games Halo looks boring & uninteresting to me. To each their own.

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Halo Franchise Director Comments On Loot box Rumor For Halo 6

Halo dev comments on the rumor about Microsoft reevaluating loot boxes after Star War Battlefront 2 controversy.

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Antnee5342703d ago

I just feel they already need to scrap halo 6 completely and look back at halo 2 and 3 and remember what made this series actually fun. There hasnt been a good halo at all since 3.

Araragifeels 2703d ago

Nani?!! Halo Reach was great and I consider that it was the last Halo with a great story. Halo 4 was an okay game but not great. Apart from Halo 5 horrible, false advertised campaign. The Multiplayer is amazing.

XbladeTeddy2702d ago

Loved Halo Reach. Best one by far I feel.

kevnb2702d ago

i actually like halo 5 too.

Gwiz2702d ago

Halo Reach was alright,for anyone interested check out the SPV3 mod for Halo CE on PC ;)
Would love to see something similar to a combo of Halo3/ODST but knowing how Halo 5 ends I'm not sure
if that would fit 343i's vision.

YEP4142702d ago

Mp was top notch!!! But single player sub par

morganfell2702d ago

"i actually like halo 5 too."

Really? HALO 5 MP had loot boxes ahead of EA MP games. It still has them. They are called REQ Packs but they are the same thing as loot boxes. HALO 5 has gotten a complete pass on this.

Kribwalker2702d ago

@Morganfell

and the last of us had loot boxes before plants versus zombies garden warfare, which had them before halo 5. what’s your point? The loot box system in halo 5 is probably the best set up there is, much like Overwatch did after it and Titanfall 2 did as well. No bearing on gameplay,you can purchase everything with in game currency other then special cosmetics that they’d sell as a set, And they have been releasing consistent content for over 2 years now at no additional cost. That is the right way to do loot boxes

Gazondaily2702d ago

@morganfell

"HALO 5 has gotten a complete pass on this."

Lol you what? I still remember some of the crocodile tears shed about this when it was released. What kind of complete FUD are you spreading?

Also, over 2 years later, people have seen just how the game benefitted from this with FREE DLC. The req packs were relegated to rewards in the Warzone mode only and even then, you had to earn the weapon you unlocked via REQ packs.

And Halo fans did love Halo 5's multiplayer. That still stands as the best console exclusive FPS out there in that regard. Try again...

happy2b2702d ago

wasn't 4 and 5 made from different publishers

morganfell2702d ago (Edited 2702d ago )

"The loot box system in halo 5 is probably the best set up there is"

That is a contradictory statement. When it is a form of multiplayer that allows you to purchase superior weapons then there is no such thing as a good setup.

The Last of Us? Do you think I am going to change my mind because you brought that up? You are blindly allegiant but I am not.

How wrong you are. You can excuse scab behavior because it is on a system you worship but I will not.

Any game made by any manufacturer or publisher that has loot boxes in Multiplayer that provide anything other than cosmetics, that is to say provides a competitive advantage, and said loot boxes may be purchased with real money then that is an implementation belonging to a game that should be boycotted and publicly ripped.

HALO 5 has loot boxes in Multiplayer. Period. Keep pointing fingers and I'll laugh as you poke out your own eye.

EDIT:

"Gold REQ Packs contain a large number of Uncommon to Legendary single use REQs. Players are also guaranteed at least two new permanent REQs, if available. Gold REQ Packs are the only source of Mythic items."

Since you do not know exactly what you are getting, only that it contains "Uncommon to Legendary single use REQs" you can add gambling to the list.

PUBG2702d ago

I don't get what the deal is with Halo fans that don't like Halo 5. Is it just because you play as Locke for 60% of the game and the lack of couch co-op? I feel like some fans are being a bit ridiculous. The story was fantastic, gameplay is great, and the graphics were great too. I know someone who is a die-hard Halo fan, and refused to buy the game just because it didn't have couch co-op.... give me a break!

TankCrossing2702d ago

Halo 5 loot boxes are fairly inoffensive. I actually agree that they should be recognised as pay to win smegboxes, but they're tucked away in the casual, accessible game mode. The competitive modes are kept pure and honest.

It really isn't a bad trade-off for the free map packs.

Knushwood Butt2702d ago

'Any game made by any manufacturer or publisher that has loot boxes in Multiplayer that provide anything other than cosmetics, that is to say provides a competitive advantage, and said loot boxes may be purchased with real money then that is an implementation belonging to a game that should be boycotted and publicly ripped. '.

So any MP game that adds weapons after launch that can be purchased with real money should be publicly ripped?

indyman77772702d ago

What ? At least he is not talking about SERVICES....lol

Antnee5342699d ago

You know i forgot all about reach that would be the last great halo.

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Rhythmattic2702d ago (Edited 2702d ago )

Halo CE.. the best one by far. IMO

Zeref2702d ago

Nostalgia is one hell of a drug

chiefJohn1172702d ago

CE had the best story
5 has the best MP
3 has the best combination of both

Rhythmattic2700d ago

"Nostalgia is one hell of a drug"
So that doesn't make it a great game?
I still love space invaders... Nostalgic? Yeh.... But its still the same game today.

spicelicka2702d ago

The multiplayer in Halo 5 is top notch and widely regarded as one of the best this gen.

But for the campaign you are right. There are obvious things that made previous Halo campaigns amazing that they are choosing to ignore.

constantine_man2702d ago

Are you fucking insane? No its not. You'd have to ignore a lot of fucking people to claim that H5's MP is some of the best this gen. Shit's garbage.

WOLFofWALLSTREET2702d ago

I agree Halo 5 has had the best arena based shooter this Gen.

spicelicka2702d ago

@constantine_man

It is true. You have more disagrees, so there you go.

constantine_man2702d ago (Edited 2702d ago )

@spicelicka

Lmfao, yes because downvotes on N4G are a way better metric to determine Halo 5's quality than I don't know... maybe its poor sales compared to the rest of the franchise?

spicelicka2702d ago (Edited 2702d ago )

@constantine_man

Talk to me when you can find a game that has controls as solid as Halo 5, arena gameplay, non-arena gameplay, PvP, PvE, PvPvE, vehicles and big team battle.

Talk to me when you can find a game that has all that and the ability to literally make your own maps, your own game modes, and host them in a custom games browser to play with other players.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Halo 3 final mission recreated in Halo 5 with scripted events.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Battlefield 1 vehicles created in Halo 5.

Talk to me when you can find a game right now that does all this without mods.

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chiefJohn1172702d ago (Edited 2702d ago )

Mp wise no fps can compete. So much content it's ridiculous. Halos on another level. Then you add forge and you get more than just a fps game but a sports, racer, zombie, parkour, maze, etc. The list of potential is endless.

Constantine Halo 5 set a record for money made. Poor sales? ROFL 5 million (not including digital and bundles which tend to be half of it's sales) in under 3 months if that's poor than sign me up lol

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Kiknyonutz2702d ago

The series is fun and continues to evolve. The story needs work but to say they need to look back at 2 or 3 makes me think you haven't played the series since then. 5 was said to have the best multiplayer since 2, I would agree.

constantine_man2702d ago

You are insane if you think H5 comes close to touching the original trilogy MP wise. It plays absolutely nothing like classic Halo. To compare H5 to H2 mp-wise is retarded.

Kumakai2702d ago

With all due respect, no one even knows much at all about 6. Why would you want them to scrap what you don’t know. Studios are aware of the feedback and reception games get, as well as fan responses to the overall arc and trend of a franchise. Just like the big ADS controvery in 5 etc...

Rude-ro2702d ago

Because loot boxes are in 5?
Maybe that is why they are talking about it now. Especially since it was a pay 2 win set up in halo 5.

Vasto2702d ago

That is so silly to say when you have not even seen anything Halo 6.

343_Guilty_Spark2702d ago

Dumbest thing I’ve heard all day. Soon as they do that you’ll be complaining they didn’t make enough new changes. Besides Galo 5 has arguably the best MP of the series.

constantine_man2702d ago

"Besides Galo 5 has arguably the best MP of the series."

HAHAHAHHAHAHA

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Let me know when 343i puts out a game relevant enough for people outside Xbox fanboys.

CoryHG2702d ago

It's completely different developers.

Sm00thNinja2702d ago

Yet you nor I have seen ANYTHING ABOUT HALO 6. NOT EVEN A SCREENSHOT. HOW CAN ANYONE AGREE WITH THIS

Gaming_Guru2702d ago

I’m the opposite, Bungie played it too safe and the games just added a little more with each instalment. 343 take risks, changed things up, instead of added shields one year, a new grenade type the next, to crazy high jumping while weighing a ton...🤨

TheCommentator2702d ago

What's been said about Halo 6 that would lead you to that conclusion already? Can you even confirm that there is a Halo 6? Follow the link and you will find this quote in 343's (Stinkles) post (#62):

"We have made zero announcements about our next projects and continue to work on our next game and technology with player's needs and interests in mind."

Note that they use the plural, "projects", suggesting that perhaps something besides Halo 6 may be coming from 343 this fall but we all know Halo 6 is inevitable.

chiefJohn1172702d ago (Edited 2702d ago )

Halo 6 is happening but rumor has a different Halo game will be releasing

TheCommentator2702d ago

Honestly, Chief, I hope 343 is working on something besides another Halo offshoot and that Halo 6 is actually on the back burner for next year or later. IMO, Halo 5 has strong MP that continues to be popular so MS would be better off keeping it in play and gaining a new IP instead of replacing it with another Halo.

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jmetalhead778122702d ago

Halo 5 multiplayer is incredible and very fun

3-4-52702d ago (Edited 2702d ago )

343 has already destroyed the Halo franchise. It's a shell of it's former self.

343 can not for the life of them....design a good multiplayer map.

What they think is good.....is not good. They have terrible taste in maps.

Halo 4&5 are terrible.

hadowajp2701d ago

Right, so good EA basically ripped it off to make it into mass effect andromeda then proceeded to release it a year before it was ready

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PhoenixUp2702d ago

No loot boxes but there will still most likely be microtransactions

TankCrossing2702d ago (Edited 2702d ago )

They aren't saying there are no loot boxes. Halo 5 has loot boxes.

They are saying a rumour that was going around about a knee-jerk reaction to the Battlefront 2 controversy has no basis in reality. Nothing more, nothing less.

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TheCommentator2702d ago (Edited 2702d ago )

They aren't even saying there's a Halo 6.

yomfweeee2702d ago (Edited 2702d ago )

Actually he kind of did say that 343 is evaluating the next game game, so they're kind of working on it.

Zeref2702d ago

What game doesn't have microtransactions?

BlaqMagiq12702d ago

Plenty of fighting games and action games

indyman77772702d ago

You know a word is like a two edge sword. Cutting to the chase... By your own question I discern that you buy mostly Micro transaction games. Otherwise your question itself would be stupid.

I have avoided them except the one I didn't do research on and it was not good. I'm not missing out on anything. Micro transactions make for bad game play and being $$$ sucker.

slavish02702d ago

Do it just like halo 5. And No season pass to split the community!

Sciurus_vulgaris2702d ago

I think armour should be unlocked separately from req weapons and power ups.

spicelicka2702d ago

This. I have never touched a lootbox or MT in Halo 5 and I have enjoyed the game thoroughly without restrictions.

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isa_scout2702d ago

They need to get back to what made the franchise great campaign wise. Halo 5 has amazing arena MP, but that campaign was atrocious. They didn't focus on the Chief and made Cortana a villian. WTF.

TankCrossing2702d ago

Nonsense! Cortana is dead.

I can't wait to play the Halo 5 campaign. I hope nobody posts any legit spoilers before tomorrow.

isa_scout2702d ago

Are you serious. If so I apologize for the spolier. I can't tell if you're being for real. And btw 3 disagrees come on people that story sucked.

indyman77772702d ago

Says the man that just said someone is dead! REALLY!? Then you complained about spoilers?

TankCrossing2702d ago

Lol no I'm not serious, don't worry. I doubt there is anyone that cares about the Halo story, likes games (enough to visit N4G), and hasn't played the game yet. And if that person exists then they'd be really stupid to read the comments on an article about Halo 6 ;)

Weeblordbad2702d ago

She's rampant, it's not her, but it is her...but it's not.

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