Square Enix looking for Xbox 360 job experience....for Versus 13

A Final Fantasy Versus XIII job wanted ad lists PS3 package title experience as necessary, "or otherwise an Xbox 360 package title". But Versus is a PS3 exclusive! Just like FFXII was. Well, at one point.

[Optical_Matrix]

Lol Kotaku shit stirring once again. It's a well known fact that people who have worked on 360 games are perfectly viable to work on PS3 exclusives as well, especially when the developer in question is developing on a multiplatform engine. I'm almost 100% certain people who have developed solely on 360 have moved on to work on PS3 exclusively and vice versa.

Either way, multiplatform or not the game just needs to hurry up and release.

@Mohdunknown...like The Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery?

[RedDead]

Hopefully no multi, it's take longer and there is a chance it will be affected quality wise, we just don't know if FFXIII was or wasn't due to the 360, but i'd prefer them not to take the chance. Too bad for me though, I highly doubt it will stay exclusive, this is S-E.

[Dante112]

Lol, didn't they reveal this "developer wanted job" in 2010 when Wada said something that got FF fans mad where he had to come out with a statement saying FFv13 is still currently being work on as an exclusive? Hope they don't make it multi though, it'll get gimped like FF13 did. Ouch, was that game a train wreck.

Edit: Yeah, it would be a tight squeeze to fit the game on dvd since it'll have some CGI cutscenes and so called "hugh towns and side quests" to visit. Something would most certainly have to be cut.

[ApplEaglElephant]

Sony is second largest stockholder of SE. They have a considerable influence in SE, but they can be over ridden.

After FFXIII, sony will do everything in their power and influence inside SE to keep FFXIII VS exclusive. On top of that, Sony has secured exclusivity contract. So there is very very small chance of Versus ever becoming multiplat.

I mean when they say if you havent worked on PS3 title before, its ok if you have 360 title experience. It simply means nothing since Versus is running on multiplat engine.

[zeeshan]

Vs is defenitely 360 bound. Why else is it still not out?

[Minato-Namikaze]

@apple. I believe that vs is running on the original white engine. It's why the game already looks miles better than XIII. But if it does go multi then you can expect to hear about cut content soon after. Plz don't ruin this game SE :(

[ApplEaglElephant]

that there is a contract in place for Versus unlike FF 13.
Also, Sony is second largest stockholder currently.

And Versus is not out yet because FF 13-2 is coming out this year. Why would they release two FF on PS3 same year..

You are just saying "Versus is 360 bound" without reason. you are just desperately grasping at straws at best...

[DragonKnight]

@Apple: Source for this contract subject you brought up. I have not heard anywhere that there is an exclusivity contract for Versus XIII, and surely if there is then there was for XIII itself.

On topic, this is akin to asking if a person simply has current gen console development experience. However I wouldn't put it passed Wada to lie to everyone again and make Versus XIII multiplatform.

[gaffyh]

This is normal, even Sony developers ask that people have experience with PS3 or 360 development.

[TheRealWar]

"Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence."

[DragonKnight]

@TheRealWar: A) Sigmund Freud has been proven to be a wack job. B) What "overwhelming evidence" can you provide that supports a 360 version. C) Did you even read SE's ad? It's essentially asking for console experience, not the 360 specifically.

Fail.

[Ravens20]

PFFT with so many great games coming out, I have NO time to waste on a FF game anyways.

[zeal0us]

I think SE should make FF a time-exclusive for the PS3. Let another company(they can trust) handle(not develop) the 360 version. It would prevent delays for the ps3 version and 360 won't end up port hell.

Sure it won't address all of the problems but it would fix some of the big ones.

[labaronx]

my thoughts exactly..... this is taking way too long.

wouldn't be suprised if it was announced for, 360, PC and wii u as well

[firelogic]

Seriously. You don't go looking for 360 programmers by saying, "We want PS3 experience, or at the very least, 360 experience."

I really don't know how anyone with any modicum of intelligence could derive, "360 version in the works!" from that statement.

[Prophet-Gamer]

I really, really hate Kotaku. They just seem so unprofessional, no they don't seem like it, they ARE incredibly unprofessional.

[SilentNegotiator]

"A Final Fantasy Versus XIII job wanted ad lists PS3 package title experience as necessary, "or otherwise an Xbox 360 package title""

A games company looking for people with experience with HD consoles (with clear diction that they're more interested in ps3-experience more than 360)? FF13-vs on Xbox 360 confirmed!

/sarcasm

[Mohdunknown]

it will be released for 360 tho. it has to. It defies logic for square to make it exclusive to one system

[402]

exactly square enix needs the money and besides porting to 360 is very cheap and easy so they won't have to invest much time or effort into the 360 version

[sashimi]

Guess that means Dragon Quest is also going multiplat then since it "defies logic" for square to make it exclusive to Nintendo /s

[Mohdunknown]

Not all dragon quest games are only on nintendo platforms.

Games like DQ8 was on ps2.

Nintendo also published some of the game in the series in NA and Pal areas.

[d3nworth1]

If it were any other genre then i would agree but JRPGs don't usually sell well on 360. Question is it worth the trouble of porting a game to a console whose audience generally doesn't buy that type of game? Personally I say no. Might as well just leave it on the console you know it's most likely to sell on.

[_Aarix_]

But itll sells enought to make a profit as oppose to never porting it.

[Foliage]

Not when it costs you almost a whole extra year of development.

Granted, the 360 library has been terrible for years now and it looks like the trend will continue. There is a lot of good reason for them to think that a console with no competition may be worth porting to...

[firelogic]

Riiight. Just like Gears of War is on the PS3. Oh wait. I guess Epic is just as stupid as SE is.

[Mohdunknown]

except MS has made a deal with EPIC where Epic owns the ip but MS has the publisher

I don't think sony and square are in the same deal

[SnotyTheRocket]

Maybe Sqeenix will get it in there heads that, oh I dunno, XIII sucked? Vs is Exclusive.

[Peaceful_Jelly]

Nooooooo I don't want another gimped FF game! Goodbye to gorgeous CGI's and who knows what other stuff for the sake of fitting the game on what? 4 discs? If the game's more open then what's gonna happen, you'll need to change discs back and forth too? =/

And considering that both versions have to be equal then how is this gonna work on PS3? Are they going to divide the game in multiple chunks? Man I'm scared! What if they totally gimp the game to make it fit on 1-2 DvD9's!

[Pozzle]

Didn't Square confirm Versus is 100% complete a few weeks ago though? So I'm guessing they've already finished the PS3 version. If a 360 version does end up being made in future, I doubt it will affect the already-completed PS3 version.

[Ddouble]

Nah they said it's going into 100% production meaning it's now their main priority so all hands on deck whereas before some people would be helping out with the other games they had coming out.

[402]

don't waste your breath even the ps3 version of ff-13 was completed before square enix even STARTED work on the 360 version yet ps3 fanboys still proclaimed that the game was held back by 360 when in actual fact ff-13 is only 6.8gb game data(which can easily fit on a 360 disk not to speak of the new XGD3 360 disks that can hold 8gb) and over 32 gb of 1080p CGI(on ps3 the 360 version has much lower quality CGI to save space) which means that the VAST majority of ff13 data was CGI and NOT game data.

ff 13 was held back by square enix. lost odyessy on 360 had cities and towns so why couldn't FF13 and most of lost odysseys disk space was taken up by CGI as well and NOT game data(only 6gb was game date the rest of the 18gb was CGI)

ffv-13 on 360 will be the same they'll develop first on ps3(spend most of their time on the ps3 version) then when thats completed they'll quickly port it to 360 so the 360 version will have a very short development cycle. by the way ff-13 on 360 isn't nearly as good looking as 360 games like crysis 2 and gears 3 so improvements can be made the ps3 version isn't nearly as good looking as uncharted 3 either.

I wish they'd brink more FF to pc but I don't think that would ever happen.

If you want a MASSIVE rpg tell square enix to use most of the space for GAME data and NOT CGI as I personally don't play CGI I play the game itself and I'd prefer more content.

[Pozzle]

@Ddouble: Ah, ok. I must have read the news article wrong. :(

[SnotyTheRocket]

They said I was in beta I think, so yeah, pretty much done.

[Foliage]

@ 402 the 360 fanboy

You're quite wrong. When the 360 version was announced, the PS3 version was immediately delayed on this side of the planet to match the release date of the 360 version. That is what you call BEING HELD BACK.

Next, content was removed from the game after the decision to go multi-plat was made. Quite obviously to keep the experience on both consoles similar. There is irrefutable proof of this from countless credible sources (including square themselves), if you take even a minute to stop talking out of your arse and check the facts.

Next... if you think that when the 360 version was announced, that they signed the deal the day prior. Your level of delusion is on par with a chronic drug addict of some heavy stuff. Just like how Mass Effect 2 was being worked on for a year for the PS3, even to the extent of having it on the ME3 engine (in other words, not just a port)... there is next to no chance that the 360 version was not already being worked on prior to the announcement. Who knows how long it may have been? It takes a lot of work to cram a game into such an outdated disc format.

[jc48573]

i need some cigarettes

[stonecold3]

wont happen its ps3 exclusive?

[DigitalRaptor]

This is just Kotaku stirring it up for the fanboys with their unpublished "wink".

Just delve into my comments history and you will find logical points of past about Versus XIII and why it's simply NOT going multiplatform.

Every single person on here talking about how Square Enix will port it to the 360 and it's cheaper and it "defies logic", you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're grasping at straw at best!

Versus XIII has been planned as a PS3 game (complete technological optimization) for its entire development process, XIII & XIII-2 didn't and the 360's limitations were in mind during both developments. If they were to bring it to the 360 at this stage, the entire development process would have to be deconstructed and reconstructed to fit 360 development (processing & storage) - it would damage the goals of this project, AND the pace at which it's development progresses.

I'm not going to repeat myself even more, just look at my comment history regarding Versus. Do some research and it will lead you to the most logical conclusion.

And not only this, but anyone who would rather see this game downgraded to fit on their system, you're completely selfish and people like you will never see the bigger picture. We've seen this happen with FF XIII (there was not much proof there, just major suspicion), but with XIII-2, what more needs to be said? The CGI cutscenes were downgraded because of the 360.

If it was coming to 360, it would have been announced months ago, since it's gonna be released next annum.

NB: For tl;dr version just read comment #17

*waits for the non-supported disagrees*

[user858621]

HAHAHA!!!!!!! ouch

*grabs popcorn* the fanboy rage is going to be so damn entertaining!!! xD

[Vega75]

I said this would be the case last week in a thread and fanboys decided to attack me. Guess SE is slowly trying to break the bad news to fanboys LOL

Ha watch this thread make front page

[StayStatic]

"Ha watch this thread make front page"

probably lol , just like:

- X plat VS Y Plat

- X Plat pwns , Y Plat sucks

- omg more than one disc i might have to get off my fat arse

And my personal favourite

- Omg these graphics and gameplay are awesome i must express my jealous rage.

[Vega75]

yeah but you forget classic like

- your console is a beta tester
- no game looks better than X game
- y company can't hold on to a exclusive if their life depended on it
- x company had to pay for it

[Bleach]

A news article saturated in attention seeking.

[The Meerkat]

As a 360 fan I'd be very happy if all Final Fantasy games were PS3 exclusive.

[labaronx]

did u like kingdom hearts

[Lord_Sloth]

No, the game has SOME elements from Kingdom Hearts on account of some of the KH team working on it.

[Chocoboh]

Wrong, it's more like FF12.

[geddesmond]

Well if it does go multiplat who cares. Square enix ain't going to release this game until 2015 and the damage to there fanbase is already done. Square Enix like many other Japanese developers are slowly killing themselfs.

Anyway from what I heard about the game unless square enix cut loads of things out of the game and xbox users are prepared to disk swap about 20 times during the game then I don't see this going multiplat.

Ain't you supposed to fly around the whole world map in an Airship like the PS1 FF games and ain't all areas big open world maps. This isn't exactly a game you can split up easily between 3 or 4 disks without ruining the experience of other things meant for the game

[Ddouble]

It's that time of the year when we speculate on Versus's exclusivity.
I don't know how saying "PS3 package title experience as necessary, "or otherwise an Xbox 360 package title" has confirmed it going multiplatform.

[sashimi]

Its kotaku and fanboys will take whatever they can get as confirmation of any Ps3 exclusives going multiplat.
The 360 trolls are already popping out of the woods just for this.

Until i actually hear it from SE i'm gonna file this under silly rumors.

[Number_13]

LA NOIRE and Final Fantasy XIII. . .you probably said the same thing.

[FEARprototype]

hahahaha.
i don't really care of its coming to the xbox 360 or not.
i just want to play the game already, i have both consoles but am probably going to buy it for the ps3 but whatever.

if the game sucks..someone is going to die...........

[Agent_hitman]

LOL.. what a shame

[Dante112]

True, the game would get gimped yet again. :(

[OmegaSlayer]

So what...will someone still care about this game when it will be released?
Will this game save Square from 6 years of shame?
No.
So, who cares...

[denero1]

i've been saying this for awhile -_- i don't want it to go multi but things happen they have no choice i guess

this is how they got in the position they are in now can't keep your word -_-

yeah this game won't fix the already tarnished reputation but if its good then atleast its a step in the right direction i guess

[MrWonderful]

They just said how final fantasy was a damaged franchise and yet they are willing to damage it more. I am all for exclusives but if they port this do it some justice and not like 13 where its night and day difference for the sake of the brand

[fourthpersonview]

This is no surprise. Another PS3 exclusive going to Xbox 360!

AWWWWWW YEAAAAAAH!

[Dante112]

@ fourth

Where were you when Mass Effect 2/3, Dead Rising 2 and Dead Island went multiplatform?

[Number_13]

Dead Island and Mass Effect 2 were already on PC so . . .and Dead Rising 2 was never at any point xbox exclusive.

[Dante112]

Guess Gears of War, Fable (3), Left 4 Dead aren't exclusives then if you follow that logic and the Dead Rising series was exclusive to the 360 (you straight up lied there lol).

[fourthpersonview]

Xbox360 exclusive -> PS3
1. Mass Effect 2/3
2. Dead Island (no shit? was this suppose to be a X360 exclusive?)
3. Dead Rising 2

PS3 exclusive -> Xbox
1. GTA
2. Devil May Cry
3. FFXIII
4. Assassin's Creed
5. Metal Gear Solid
6. Long time PS3 developer Insomaniac.

:7

[Troll-without-Bridge]

Chillax people, if you bother reading the actual application its clear they just want experienced staff for versus XIII and HD projects in the future.

[Rai]

if its true i've been calling it for 2 years now ever since they made FF13 a multi. it would of made no sense if a core FF went multi and its spins offs didnt.

if it was a few years ago I might have gotten annoyed but after recent years, who cares. square has died, and a lot of their fans can't trust that they can make a good game. even back then square couldnt make a good game if it didnt have the words Final Fantasy with a number next to it or Dragon Quest with a number next to it.

[geddesmond]

You are kidding right???

Star ocean, Vagrant story, Kingdom Hearts, Breath of Fire, Parasite eve.!!

[Minato-Namikaze]

LOL PWNED!! Good job geddesmond. Can we count super mario RPG as well?

[supremacy]

I wouldnt be surprised if we get another article clarifying this or one of them counter articles. Another at the office I suppose.

[AsunaYuukiTheFlash]

It will be over between me and Square if this game becomes multiplatform.

[Number_13]

Oh no!! However will they cope??

[Lionalliance]

At this point, I don't care anymore.
I just wanna play it!

[AllroundGamer]

goooo Level 5! Square Enix just die already...

[VampiricDragon]

uncharted 2 also asked for 360 experience.......it has nothing to do with the system

[Tito08]

Yeah, but Naughty Dog are first party developers, so they likely asked for HD console experience in general(PS3, 360), I don't like the idea of certain games going Multiplat but Square Enix are obsessed with those yearly COD numbers, so they probably think going exclusive with PS3 at its current instal base won't help em achieve that..... BTW, this gen SE has given more exclusivity to MS & Nintendo, only exclusive I've seen so far for Sony is a remake of FFX, unless they change their minds!!!!

I mean, who knows, the first time when I first heard DMC4 was becoming multiplat, I already knew other companies were gonna follow suit, when they announced FF13 as multiplat, it was a no-brainer for me that Tekken 6 was becoming multiplat as well months before they made the announcement at TGS!!!!

[gamer7804]

I don't think anyone would be suprised if ffvs13 came out on xbox 360. Why wouldn't square want to reach a larger audience, it worked out well for them with ff13.

[nealane]

Wasn't last remnant supposed to come to ps3 as well yet square never released it for ps3 and only released it on xbox ff13 was originally a ps3 esclusive yet square holds it back from releasing it until 360 version is complete with rumors of content being removed from the ps3 version 2 make it equal 2 the 360 version I wouldn't be surprised if square is secretly trying to port it to 360 & announce it as a multiplat I hope it stay exclusive to see how much better it is than ff13

[XeNoStRatoS]

Doubtful BUT if they do that, I'll never buy a SE JRPG again. No credibility, no quality of storytelling and too creedy they got over at SE.

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[tiffac008]

I would actually be surprise if we don't see FFXIIIVs on the 360.

Wada is too greedy to just have his devs finish the game and get it out after all this years of making their fans wait.

[majiebeast]

Reminds of of ND asking for someone with 360 experience for uncharted 2.

But if it does goes multi and quality is compromised then its the last square enix game i buy. They are already very lucky that they own eidos otherwise SE would have already been bankrupt with failures like FF14.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I am not going to say anything here. Just gonna grab popcorn and watch internet rage ensue. This will be more entertaining than any day time t.v. for sure.

[Denethor_II]

You obviously don't see some of the retards on Jeremy Kyle then. They're hilarious.

[DA_SHREDDER]

I stopped caring about this game the day I seen gameplay footage. I looked like a FF12/Kingdom Hearts hybrid. I'll pass, give me my original FF formula or nothing at all. All I ever wanted was improvements, not a change for the worse.

[Hicken]

You want improvements... but you say "give me my original FF formula or nothing at all."

Make up your mind, please.

[imoutofthecontest]

"Just like FFXII was. Well, at one point."

Final Fantasy 12 was on PS2, not PS3. And it still is a PS2 exclusive. When you make a typo, don't make it so incredibly crippling to your whole point.

[KittyEmperor]

I don't care if it goes to the 360 or not just find a way to release the game soon.

[wnek9]

yes :D now i can play it on my 360!

[Chocoboh]

Don't know why you would buy an Xbox360 to play jRPG games in the first place anyways.

[wnek9]

lost odyssey is the main reason, and my ps3 died

[felonycarclub]

i really doubt that they will go multiplatform but who knows, if they really want to recover final fantasy keep it exclusive and do the game justice not like ffXIII on 360 that way you dont have to downgraded it

[DFresh]

At this point I really don't give a shit Square Enix.
Just release the game.
It's hopeless to ever think that this company will ever make a true Final Fantasy game without limitations of other platforms.
>.<

[Sevir04]

Asking for 360 experience and all of a sudden the whole internet speculated that They were gonna go multiplatform? Reading comprehension is not a strong suite for a lot of people apparently! From reading it seems that They want experience in HD platforms but ps3 is primary since the game is a ps3 exclusive! Nothing new... Job experience is needed. I'm not gonna hold my breath but I'm pretty certain It's exclusive to the ps3

[tickticktick]

LOL @ people who thought (still think) this is exclusive.

[DigitalRaptor]

LOL @ people like you who keep wishing for more exclusives, because you won't own a PS3 until 2020 because it's too expensive!

LMAO! Follow the facts buddy, you might find something!

[gotgame1985]

i don't know why every body act like this can't come to 360 every body knows 3rd party exsclusives are a thing of the past.

[narutogameking]

They're looking for PS3 or 360 experience. Those with PS3 experience will be picked over those with 360. Why? This is a PS3 exclusive.

[PirateThom]

Ugh? This again? Every so often it comes up and people freak out, hell, even Naughty Dog had a similar ad.

This is a studio looking for a developer for an HD console who has experience on an HD console with a released title.

[solidjun5]

It is kotaku. Love stirring things up.
Does it come out for it? who knows. I just want Square to make FF series great again. 13 was...meh.