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Infinity Ward Pledges Online Improvements In MW3 PC, Recognizes Faults With MW2

Infinity Ward decided to take a step back to familiar territory with the PC release of Modern Warfare 3 — forgoing its in-house IWnet system in favor of dedicated servers, a move Call of Duty community chief Robert Bowling says was prompted by fan feedback. In a recent interview, Bowling discussed the shortcomings of IWnet, and why it failed to succeed.

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Agent-865027d ago (Edited 5027d ago )

I keep thinking of that old saying: "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." In other words, I'll believe it when I see it. Using the same old engine and not taking advantage of PC's graphical strength is not a good start. Dedicated servers are great, but not if the map sizes and player counts are small because of console limitations (18 players on PC is not taking advantage of that platform). Take a look at DICE's work and see how to cater to both crowds without "gimping" out the PC version. Then, I might buy another COD game.

princejb1345026d ago

the engine isn't the problem since the engine is good enough compare to black ops which looks terrible
and i don't think 18 players is a console limitations both ps3 and 360 had at least 64 players on one match(front lines for x360, mag for ps3)
is more like we don't want overcrowded maps with a bunch of people running around everywhere
is bad enough playing ground war in small maps
if they really want to improve mw3 everything should be balanced thats including taking quick scope out

NuclearDuke5026d ago (Edited 5026d ago )

I'm sorry but I wholeheartedly disagree with you.

I have played CoD since the second in the series and I have never been a fan of the 32+ player servers. Not one single Call of Duty map since the Modern Warfare franchise started has been created with the intention of hosting so many players.

When I first played Call of Duty 4, I remember deaths over and over again, simply because you never knew when five grenades would land around your feet. Together with Stopping Power, it made the games entire mess and I had much more fun when I started playing 5v5 clan matches with rulesets.

I appreciate the way that Infinity Ward moved to a more tight and strategic scale of play, with less players on smaller maps, where audio and awareness is very important.

DICE does focus on an entirely different targetgroup. They cater to people who like large scale veichular combat. Call of Duty, simply isn't one of these games, and I don't think this has anything to do with actually "gimping" the PC version, yes - Graphics is indeed limited due to Xbox being the main platform but in terms of gameplay, 5v5 to 9v9 suits me perfectly, I wouldn't want MW3 to be any different than it seems to be.

If you wish 16v16 and 32v32, go play Battlefield 3. Don't complaint about Call of Duty being without these number of players, because that is not how it's meant to be and it won't ever be.

I don't hate on BF3, I am building a brand new spectacular machine for that game, however - On consoles it is limited to 30 FPS, which throws alot of smooth feeling away.

Ezio20485027d ago

hmmm...i have faith in IW!!
i am looking forward to the game...

ATi_Elite5026d ago

They gotta have Dedicated Servers and Admins for the PC. This is not a PC feature but more like a standard PC must have!

Steam is cool along with VAC but Dedicated servers and Admins are the best anti-cheat system there is. Hackers and Cheats do not last long when you have an Admin flaiming your screen with......

5.4.3.2.1 bye bye Haxor!!..........disconnected from server!......lol

jozzah5026d ago

"community chief Robert Bowling says was prompted by fan feedback"

Even though when they announced it literally every PC player was complaining about it. But now that they realise that nobody likes it then its "oh yeah we listen to the fans"

susanto12285026d ago

Sorry not buying this crap anymore, and neither are any of my friends...ragequit haha

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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III & Warzone - Season 6 Combat Pack Trailer

Free for Playstation owners

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Modern Warfare 3 flooded with cheaters after arrival on Xbox Game Pass

Players are using hacks to gain an advantage in the game, such as aimbots and wall hacks. The first gives a player superhuman aiming abilities, while a wall hack lets you see through walls to gauge where other players are.

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Jin_Sakai336d ago (Edited 336d ago )

“These hacks are typically used by PC players, but those playing on PC via Xbox Game Pass are identified as Xbox players in multiplayer lobbies.”

This is pretty dumb to say the least.

Cacabunga335d ago

All about them headshots for Xbox

badz149335d ago

Gotta pump those numbers up

blackblades335d ago

That's a WTF, they suppose to be labeled as pc users even if its on PC game pass. They mess that up big time.

XiNatsuDragnel335d ago

Oh bad this will be entertaining to watch

ZycoFox335d ago

If AI keeps getting better (and it will) it's just a matter of time before there's more sophisticated cheats even for consoles, and they wouldn't even need to be running on it, I have little doubt about that.

lelo2play335d ago

Don't Gamepass online games have anti-cheat systems?
If not, that's pretty dumb. Microsoft need to fix that asap.

Rynxie335d ago (Edited 335d ago )

They won't ever fix this problem, unless they (developers, publishers, Sony and MS) go after the cheat providers directly. You no longer need to hack consoles to use hacks. During the ps360 days, they were going after cheat devices, but it was a cat and mouse game. These cheating methods were around during those days, it's nothing new, but they kept it under control. Since the PS4/Xbox one generation, they stopped going after these cheating devices and it became widespread. Which I find odd, since they started charging for online play (PS4).

StormSnooper335d ago (Edited 335d ago )

Possibly, this is because the companies were going after cheats because the same cheats were being used to pirate the games, whereas today, the companies use online verification to prevent piracy, thus eliminating the need to go after people who cheat only to gain an advantage in the game. As long as the cheater remains below the radar, and does not completely break the game, the companies look the other way as their wallets are not threatened by it. (that is my completely Uneducated opinion on the matter)

pwnmaster3000335d ago

I mean, COD games was always filled with hackers, nothing new. I can’t blame MS on this. Activision had years to try and fix this. Might take MS some time to make some change.

Rude-ro335d ago

It all depends…
Microsoft’s guidance on how to handle gamepass on pc and their love to force crossplay with pc seems like a them issue.
And they own activision, so it is still a them issue.

StormSnooper335d ago

lol well that sucks.

Is there a reason this happened upon arrival on xbox?

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Activision Reportedly Sold An AI-Generated Skin In Call Of Duty

The Yokai's Wrath bundle was released despite previous guarantees by Activision that A.I. would not be used for final assets, per the report. Instead, Activision assured developers it was simply for internal concepts. That, of course, was not followed through. For what it's worth, per the PlayStation Store, 2,400 COD Points cost $19.99, meaning players potentially spent real-life money on a skin that was not created by an actual human.

As far as A.I. use goes across Activision, a source told Wired that 2D artists are utilizing A.I. to aid their work. That is a result of mass layoffs, in which many 2D artists were impacted. “A lot of 2D artists were laid off,” the source named Noah said. “Remaining concept artists were then forced to use A.I. to aid in their work.” Mandatory A.I. trainings have been implemented, according to Noah.

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boing1338d ago (Edited 338d ago )

I mean, is this even surprising?

just_looken338d ago

It is not ubisoft has a ai tool for crating stories/script's they even talked about npc's having there own ai speech like we see with those skyrim mods.

Ai is the future sadly which sucks in so many way's.

S2Killinit338d ago (Edited 338d ago )

Activision. And MS. They will ruin console gaming forever.

Oh and where the FRIGGIN outrage people? When Sony makes a remaster of a masterpiece single player story driven game, they get roasted. But this, this, goes unnoticed? Then don’t complain that you aren’t getting enough single player story games.

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just_looken338d ago

Ea and ubisoft also use ai

ea using ai for development threatening mass layoffs.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/...

ubisoft ai for npc speech
https://www.theverge.com/20...

Almost every big boy in the industry is using ai in some sort of way now

Oh and sony? well they are making spyware ai were they can see how long it took you to do X and adjust difficultly.
https://gamerant.com/sony-a...

Then you got AI agents
https://www.ign.com/article...

https://www.creativebloq.co...

blackblades338d ago

Sony ai is a patent doesnt mean it came to light

just_looken338d ago

@blackblades

Wow this site every time you say the S word or P word they dive in defend there god its beyond nuts

I said "they are making"

You know a term that means its not out yet ffs

S2Killinit338d ago (Edited 338d ago )

How is that a response to what I said? Are they also selling AI generated skins?

Cacabunga337d ago (Edited 337d ago )

Always bringing useless links totally off topic.. just to try to show you are superior in knowledge to everyone else

…simply laughable

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just_looken338d ago

@S2Killinit

You never mentioned skins in your comment just stated its all microsoft's fault like so many others.

When like i showed they are late to the ball game as every other company is using or plans to use ai in various field.

If you combine everything then its getting closer to hitting a button and poof out comes a game no soul no passion nothing.

Right now its art/3d models/skins/writing/voice work some and coding can all be done via ai.

S2Killinit338d ago (Edited 338d ago )

That was the whole point of my comment, I wrote it in response to the article. Instead of focusing on making exciting games and developing talented developers, they are busy making AI generated skins that people are buying for huge sums of money. Then, some people turn around and shit on Sony when it tries to capitalize on single player classics by making remasters, and the same people then complain that they want more single player games. MS cannabalized the industry because they never thought making games was essential to their business. So, instead of nurturing theor own studios, they let them die, then went and shrunk the industry, hurting interests of every gamer in the world. Anytime there is a bad trend in the industry, MS is at the helm, leading the way. That is what I’m saying.

smashman98337d ago

I'm sorry but do you honestly believe Sony will sit out of A.I. Every executive at every one of these publishers is wetting themselves in delight at the prospect of A.I. You best believe that once we start seeing it spread throughout the industry Sony won't be too far behind. The only people we'll have to blame are the consumers themselves.

S2Killinit337d ago (Edited 337d ago )

No, I don't believe that Sony will not do the same. But, as I mentioned, MS is always the first to embrace such things and create the worst trends. Once they establish that this is the best way to make money, everyone else will follow. (Have to follow if they want to stay competitive)

thesoftware730337d ago

S2, and blackblades:

All from the Horse's mouth below.

"Artificial intelligence (AI) in video games is crucial for Gen Z and Gen Alpha, who seek “personalization across everything,” says PlayStation executive Asad Qizilbash."

“Advancements in AI will create more personalized experiences and meaningful stories for consumers.”

"He emphasized that AI could enable non-player characters to interact with players based on their actions, enhancing the personal connection within the game."

Yeah, Just MS and Activision...smh

S2Killinit337d ago

I’ve already explained myself twice. Quit your false equivalence, same thing the xbox fateful pulled before and after the ABK acquisitions. Which by the way, blew up in your faces real good. Now, doing the same thing when someone brings up MS’s nefarious behavior, defend them to the end, and watch them scorch gaming as they have been. At least rest of us can take consolation in that the smoke will go in your eyes before anyone else’s.

thesoftware730337d ago (Edited 337d ago )

"Quit your false equivalence, same thing the xbox fateful pulled before and after the ABK acquisitions. Which by the way, blew up in your faces real good."

I'm not sure what you are talking about, you seem to have a issue communicating, because we are on a post about using AI to create video games content, and you put that solely at the feet of MS and Activision, when it's being, and will be used industry wide, right from Sony mouth, I would say it's relevant...then you went on to give Sony a spit shine slob down about a masterpiece TLoU when this had absolutely nothing to do with Sony or TLoU, then you attempted to clean up your rambling spit shine with no real backing for a ridiculous comment.

Obviously you meant to post that nonsensical over exaggerated comment. I also don't know what blew up in people faces, I am perfectly fine with the game industry, I don't have time to be internet outraged about nothingness.

Really read your comment and listen to what you said.

"Activision. And MS. They will ruin console gaming forever."

Bro, for real? Really? Seriously? It's that serious? So there is nothing Sony and Nintendo can do against MS and Activision? MS is 3rd place with you even talking about?

If we stay relevant on MTX, then you still sound ridiculous because again, you lay it all at MS and Activision's feet when almost all companies have used some form of MTX, including yup... Sony.

S2Killinit333d ago

I read this comment, it boiled down to “seeiously?”.

My answer: yes seriously. Since you didn’t say anything else, what else can I tell you? Yes MS is seriously ruining gaming. They have been for some time, and working their way to where we are today, and aren’t even done yet. MS are the worst thing to happen to console gaming.

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swedishMeatwad338d ago

"The Yokai's Wrath bundle was released despite previous guarantees by Activision that A.I. would not be used for final assets, per the report."

We're talking concept art? Because as of right now there's no way to generate a final 3D model with final textures. So the final assets don't use AI. That's not to say that it sucks for 2D artist that it's easier to generate visual ideas and build from them leading to less 2D artists needed (really sucks), but are they say the final concept art was completely AI generated and then 3D artists built from that? And yes, I'll pile on that Activision as a publisher and their developers I have experience with suck and they'll do whatever, ethics be damned.

OldDuffer337d ago

Thats actually a very useful and informative piece, thank you.

just_looken337d ago

@OldDuffer

Your welcome though it seems it went over many users heads.

PapaBop338d ago

Wow I can just imagine the likes of Activision, EA and Ubi etc having an army of AIs creating overpriced crap and the fanboys just lapping it up. I hope the AIs have a good union.

montebristo338d ago

I understand why people think it’s good idea to Unionize to fight back against such things but it’s not. It’s a bad idea. It’s activisions wet dream to have these pumped out weekly by some AI. Protect your neck!

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