Karl-Magnus Troedsson, General Manager at Dice, answered a few tough questions regarding the date of the Battlefield 3 beta.
well glad they went with the open beta rather then just closed
If they had another closed one I swear to god...
yea me 2 however i wish we MOH LE owners would have had a week early at least...oh well still thankful to be part of the beta =)
Yeah atleast they have a beta, unlike that other shooter...
lol what could that be let me think. :D
That other shooter doesn't need a beta, its just the same multiplayer from the other games, just slightly modified.
Phone 'er Doom: Futuristic Intergalactical Space Wars..... .;) this year it uses the same Engine but it takes place on Jupiter , and theres even More (Cheeeea...** PERKS.. So it makes the game more Realistic
Technically it's NOT a beta.
Agreed. This is a demo. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. It's a demo. And if this is a beta, and not a demo, then Forza 4's early October Demo...errr.. is really a Forza 4 beta right?
It cant be a beta this far along in the development cycle
Yeah it's more like a demo with a beta label on it. I'm just glad we'll play it soon.
I just hope it's not too buggy.
I'm tired of these glorified demos being called Betas. I don't think I've ever seen a game play differently after a beta. What you see is what you get. Resistance 3 is a perfect example.
MAG was a fine example of a Beta being used as an actual Beta. There were many changes from the Beta to the finished game.
I'm not calling Crysis 2 an amazing multiplayer game, but there were some major differences between their "demo" and the final product. I thought that was pretty cool
More of a stress test demo. If the stress on the server ain't so bad, it a demo, if it's too much...it a beta. Lets not forget, ain't the release version so it'll still have those graphical quirks that present in a beta rather than the final build (of decent games :/ )
yup this is a demo with a beta label slapped on as to give them something to blame should there be a lot of naysayers. imo you lose all rights of calling it a beta you're promised access to it if you buy another game. DICE says we should feel privileged. I don't feel that way at all. I bought a product which stated i was gonna be in beta. So i damn well better be in beta regardless.
@BattleAxe Uncharted 2 and Uncharted 3 beta had some noticeable issues. They fixed them in Uncharted 2 and I expect the same in Uncharted 3. Those are examples of devs actually using it as a beta. There was also a Journey beta. But yes, most "betas" are the final product.
@ ShoryukenII I agree with you on that point, but Naughty Dog is a quality developer which as we all know, there isn't that many of those around these days. Heck, Naughty dog kept experimenting with "The Lab" for quite some time after the game released.
It's not the release build of the game, so it's still beta.
Yes, DICE did say that the final build is already different than the beta build.
We should trust your opinion due to your vast experience in the development cycle of AAA game titles.
Didnt say you should. Im saying id be worried if they were still in the beta stage of the game this close to launch. I mean they still arent going to have enough time to fix any problems in the game and still launch it in time
yea definitely a demo with tweaks here and the after the Beta...the best beta this year was Gears of war 3 they actually changed up two maps and solved some issues.
Exactly. Usually at least 3 weeks before a game's release date the code is already locked down and sent off for disc production. Any new data they get during the 'beta' will at best be a day 1 patch (see: Resistance 3). Really it is a multiplayer demo. Only a few non-MMO games seem to put much stock in doing a proper beta such as the recent Halo games. As part of my research thesis I've been looking at some of the Halo 3 beta results, and the amount and precision of the data collected is mind-blowing.
Wow, you guys. If the FINAL BUILD is not present in the beta, (which it ISN'T) then it is in fact still a beta.
Its still a beta, even though the development period is about 1month before release. The only thing that could be fix is minor bugs and glitches. Since you only getting a small part of the game, some to most game crashing bugs can't be fix/found seeing as you given access to the full game.
And very importantly... server load.
This, my friend is what is going to make or break it. If the servers hold true, this game will be a champion. If it is a laggy mess like gears 2, then I will be reeeeeally pissed.
If nothing else, they will be able to glean some info about matchmaking, and tweak that.
Exactly, after the game is open for the public, they'll be able to test matchmaking better.
Who cares about match making. Consoles get a server browser! :]
I didn't know there were doing that. That is awesome! Well done DICE, even more stocked for this game now.
Demo! Beta! Who cares? I just want to play it damn it!
You guys sound like day-one and later patches are non-existent nowadays. Of course the beta can help.
DICE will get the job done!
yeah, right. At this point in it's development cycle - it's a demo. Learn from Bungie and Epic and start doing your beta's month ahead - publically
How did the gears two beta work out for yea. Yeah thats what I thought. Post release patches are what makes this a beta.
You just contradicted yourself saying they should learn from Bungie and Epic having betas publically. Gears 3 and Halo reach betas required a preorder or having a certain game to access the betas, don't see how that's having a beta publically. BF3 beta will be available for ANYONE who decides to try it. And DICE already said the beta is a different build from the retail build
Uncharted 3 had a beta. MAG had a beta. Battlefield 3 has got a demo.
So did Gears 3 and Assassin's Creed Revelations.
I couldn't list everything, so i put down two. But yeah, there are loads of betas out there and Battlefield 3's 'aint one of them.
Battlefield 3 got a alpha and a beta.
Battlefield 3 got a alpha and a "beta"
Very true on having both. There have been people like me testing it since way back! I think from the begining of august on...
I can't really decide ... are you complaining?!
Definetely not complaining about playing BF3 (less than) month before release, but I'm complaining at how they can call it a beta rather than a demo when the game is Just over 4 weeks away. Surely they can't improve it without day one patches.. --My last comment :( No more replies..
best example of a fail beta was Killzone3. The beta had more features than the actual game because they messed up the patch and had to fix bugs before re-adding features. what a Joke
IT seems like some of you don't realize open betas this close to a release isn't without precedent. Red Orchestra 2 was still patching from their open beta right up until release.
Anybody else getting the feeling this game is going to be buggy when it comes out?
Do you not know what the purpose of a beta is? It's to catch bugs and test the backend system prior to launch. This is not a god damnned demo.
I wasn't talking about the beta, I was talking about the actual game.
I agree, Panda but what is a little concerning is this game cannot be far from going gold. I think this might simply be a server stress test rather than any actual game tweaking, albeit, very, very minor adjustments. Like a coder frantically trying to do a quick fix as his boss is logging in to download the final build...
Beta is probably late because development has taken much longer than expected. This beta at this point is more a demo than a true beta.
Nowhere in that article did he explain why we are getting it late.
Just glad they had one. Looking for a decent squad to run with, and yes I have a mic (shocker!). PSN: Gullymac
yo i have a question is mw3 going to have dedicated servers?
DICE on Why the Battelfield 3 Beta Is So Late ( no Lie version ) A: Marketing...
when we will be able to download it ?..
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