Jade Raymond: Caught in the Crossfire

The Angry Pixel writes: "Jade Raymond, producer of Assassin's Creed, is one sad panda these days. And if Jade ain't happy, UbiSoft is mad. After all, she and her team delivered one spectacular baby in the form of Assassin's Creed. And if UbiHulk goes all green, it's very bad news for Something Awful, which found itself staring down the barrel of a lawsuit after someone posted a particularly tasteless comic of Jade trying to convince nerdy gamers to buy Assassin's Creed by giving them really messy head. While I love SA.com's reply to the lawsuit and think that's what you deserve for being a lawyer, I am aghast at some of the comments made by gamers worldwide in response to this."

"Suddenly, people are calling Jade 'a touchy bitch' and talk about how she was using her sex appeal to sell the game , to how UbiSoft was pimping her to sexually frustrated gamers to get them to buy the game."

[wil4hire]

So are Gamers worldwide supposed to be mature politicians? What do people expect when dialog between gamers go so far as:

"YOU GOT PWND F@GT!!"
"Suck it down.."
"LOL RAPE!!"

etc.?

I hate how the gaming community is going to take a hit for this jade raymond BS. For the most part the game community is fine, but once you unleash us all behind online anonymity.. theres no tellin what is going to be said or done.

[FreeMonk]

If I was Jade Raymond I'd be more pissed about producing a game that doesn't meet the expectations that were promised when it was first announced than a crude comical image.

I've played through much of Assassin's, and it's the same thing on every mission. You climb towers to view your objectives, you pickpocket people, you eavesdrop on people, you save citizens, you help other assassin's collect flags, then you assassinate your target.

THEN YOU DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN!!! It's repetitive. Not matter how good the game looks or how well the game plays, the game is the same thing over every mission.

Surely they could of added a Rescue mission in where you have to save a fellow Assassin of the creed, or other ways to gather information, not the same damn things.

Also, why not get people off the street to do dialog for there characters than have the same person do the same woman citizen or male citizen over every area of the game. This isn't a small budget game, this is massive, surely they could afford a few more character actors to do different phrases for the different characters.

It's a good game, but very very flawed, and Jade and Ubisoft should be worried about short changing there customers over that a dodgy comic, because when the sequal arrives (which it will), most of us will be very sceptical of buying the sequal incase it plays like the original, which is something I will be doing.

I'm pretty pissed that I payed £40 for this game! Rent instead!

[smturner68]

Hey Wil4hire. You bring up the point that boys talk like retards to each other, trying to outdo each other with their taunts. That is definately NOT acceptable for an excuse. Neither is hiding behind anonymity. NOBODY should disrespect a woman like that. How would you like it if someone drew your mother or sister in this fashion? It's plain unacceptable. Who cares if your precious "gaming community is going to take a hit" for this? For you to defend it, you are embracing the part that offends. I am a game player, but don't feel I have to defend the entire community for it. The offender, and people who slander her, and say she deserved it, are the problems. Every individual should be responsible for their own actions. So, for you to defend some 'community' that you feel part of, and feel the need to defend it, makes you a total loser. I've thought that about you already because you use your gaming platform(ps3..we all know this about you) as a way to divide, just like a form of bigotry, similar to racism, and yep, you guessed it, SEXISM. You are a waste of space.

[eLiNeS]

Did you take a look at the credits yet for this game? There are a ton of voice actors, more then you think. They had to find different voice actors for each language the game is made for, I believe 6 different languages in all. So give them a brake. Also, did you notice how huge the game is? It's huge and it's beautiful! There's lots to do thanks to the achievements if you have the 360 version and I have neglected all my other games to try and finish them all up. If you don't have the 360 version, I feel for you, you get a totally different feeling about games with achievements, hopefully the PS3 will get something similar soon, then I might think of getting one sooner then later.

[FreeMonk]

I can understand that there are a lot of voice actors for the game, but surely they could of got the actors to do some different sentenaces for the citizens you save, and the citizens moving around the city. It drives me mad that something so simple can be messed up. It only a little part of the game, but hearing the same comment from the same woman twice in one city is bad enough, but over all the cities is a stupid decision.

Yes, the game is huge and will easily last a good 9-10 hours, maybe more if you go for all the citizen saves and complete all investigations, but isn't it a good idea for a game of this size to have a a little more varitey. Once you've got past the first mission, other than the story plot, you do the same thing OVER and OVER and OVER! It's repetitive.

I have the 360 version, but I'm not bothered about Achievements, so that section of the game is lost on me, but it sucks if your a PS3 player, because they don't get achievement, so the replayablity factor is low. Collecting 100 flags in one city is kinda lost on the PS3 version because you don't get anything for it.

I just think that the game is repetitive, which is it's major flaw, and that they could of added some more character sentences instead of re-using the same ones over and over, especially the one's that you HAVE to interact with to complete objectives. Games like Halo, Oblivion, Mass Effect all have managed it, so why not AC. It's just sloppy!

[radzy]

they (ubi) , in one way shape or form exploited her, because face it "sex sells".
i remember when she was taking us through the walkthrough of assassins creed. i think it was at gdc or tgs , when chasing talal and the assassin jumped on talal and stuck the knife in his neck in a swoop, jade's reaction was like "oh... ha ..........woooow!!!!!" and then a small giggle.
i swear it sounded like an orgasm.
she had it coming.(not literally speaking)

[KeezNah]

She does come from Electric Playground, so I guess she's used to being a little more "active" in front of the cameras than the other developers / producers.

Let's not forget Ubi did screw up once with the Frag Dolls, but it's sad that the artist had to choose something so senseless to get his message across about Ubi "using" Jade.

[smturner68]

Hey, Radzy, you said " UBISOFTS FAULT !!!!!!!!!
they (ubi) , in one way shape or form exploited her, because face it "sex sells". "

This is a copout. You're not too bright, but not entirely unusual. Some football players at our U of Iowa just got busted for raping a woman too. So, anyway, according to your logic, when Epic games used Cliffy B to pimp their Gears of War game, and to use him, as the producer of the game, to be the 'face' and spokesperson for the game, they should have expected him to be sexually exploited? No, you're showing your disrespect for women. I could see someone that's gay being disrespectful to women. I mean, if you're straight, wouldn't you rever, and put women on pedestals? I guess not, if you think they're just for your pleasure and abuse. You are among the pathetic.

Also, Radzy, you said,

"i remember when she was taking us through the walkthrough of assassins creed. i think it was at gdc or tgs , when chasing talal and the assassin jumped on talal and stuck the knife in his neck in a swoop, jade's reaction was like "oh... ha ..........woooow!!!!!" and then a small giggle.
i swear it sounded like an orgasm.
she had it coming.(not literally speaking) "

I realize that you are trying to be witty, funny, or something here, but basically, you are using your play on words to essentially say what most rapists say to rape accusations. "SHE HAD IT COMING."
No woman deserves to be debased and degraded like this. She is a game producer. She is not in a porn movie asking for a load to be dumped on her. Get it straight. In normal society, you don't treat women as if they are porn stars, or like they are in your bedroom ready to submit to your sexual desires. By saying these things, you are showing that you are a loser as well. Show your mom your comments, see if she approves. If you're afraid to show your mother this, then you shouldn't be saying it ANYWHERE, including in here, because it's not acceptable in a gaming public forum. This is not the porn awards forum.

[rushbd]

watching these agree and disagree counts. Jade's fault was she was too beautiful.

For the first time in my life I'm feeling ashamed to be in this crowd who calls themselves gamer.

[Mighty Boom]

Your not going to meet a chic on this forum dude. Go to a bar or something. Save the captain save a hoe act for some other forum. Let me guess your vote is for Hillary. Assuming you can vote of course.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

How cute...

[KeezNah]

See now, that, is very tasteful! For the most part, she does seem like a 12-year old kid when she's talking. I remember her saying something to the effect to "I would like to pet my horse too" and then burst out giggling. That's actually endearing. And she can pull it off, unlike the guys who usually talk about the guns and the blood and the other stuff we're all used to hearing about.

Sorta reminds me of Samantha Brown, impressed easily by all the things going on around her.

[rofldings]

^pedophile

[ultraviolentz]

pretty sure mature people prefer guns and blood to petting horses

[thereapersson]

It brings out the worst in everyone

[BIoodmask]

company figure that is used to represent a product. The only difference is the prepubescent filth that walks the planet can't control themselves when it comes to an attractive female in a marketing campaign.

Jade doesn't deserve to be treated the way she was. She has the credentials to be in the position she holds at Ubisoft.

The problem is with the immature public, not with Jade or Ubisoft. Some people just need to grow up and learn to have respect for women.

[ry-guy]

Amen, Bloodmask. You deserve a bubble for that post.

To the others above (I'm looking at you wil4hire) I swear no one reads these articles anymore before commenting. Wil4hire, you did the same thing on a Ghostbusters article. Posted some junk when the article was written to the complete opposite to what you had to say about them.

In this case, I was completely unaware of who Jade Raymond was. I still would be if it were not for this lawsuit. Let's face it, Somethingawful.com is NOT known for their gaming community. This is not about the gaming community as a whole. It is aimed at some specific people, who I think justly deserve the finger pointed at them specifically.

In video games, the only sex that sells is with the video game characters. If you bought Assassin's Creed because of Jade Raymond's cuteness you are uninformed and just as guilty as Something Awful. The only reason her face was all over the interviews is because SHE was the game producer.

Why is no one going after Will Wright? You see his face all over Spore? Am I going to buy Spore because of Will Wright? No. I will buy Spore because it is a good game.

[LONEWOLF231]

She doesn't deserve this type of treatment no women does!
And its true dude these F^&* need to grow the F%^& up.
Poor Jade, i hope these fools get whats coming to them!

[PS360PCROCKS]

Amen. Thank god SOMEONE has some damn morals.

[LeShin]

I may not agree with things you have posted in the past Bloodmask, but I totally agree with you on this point. You wonder why certain people and ahem...one particular lawyer, think gamers are imbecilic retards with no morals when things like this happen. Saw some of the people defending the comic as well.....idiots. Please post a picture of your girlfriends or better yet...your mum's and I will promptly create a comic and post it onto the internet THEN tell me about that freedom of speech crap.

Idiots....

By the way, I bought Assassin's Creed yesterday and I think it's brilliant! Anyone who says that it's really repetitive better not love Fps's as I will turn that response back to them in a second!

[Daxx]

I blame 4chan.

[darkvenom]

usually i disagree with what you say but this time i have to side with you,bubbles for an excellent comment!all these pre-pubecent punks that infect the internet have nothing better to do.

[sixaxis]

its just sad that such a good producer as Jade is have to deal with this kind of mess. Assassins Creed is a very good game, i really dont know why people are acting differently with this game than any other. Really did they made fun over God of War producer, or what about Half life, Gears of War etc. Is it really because AC producer is a girl? Now, You wont see any other game from Ubisoft anymore exept sooter thats for sure!! Then you are complaining that theres no creativity in games, LOL.

[CLOUDJU]

People actually find Jade Raymond attractive ? I mean, she's not bad looking or anything; average at best. I just find she has the enthusiasm and personality of a wet sponge. Glad I bought Assassins Creed because it actually looked like a good game; which it is thus far.

[gamesblow]

What mess? I don't understand how this is a mess at all... It's just more publicity. It's like bono talking politics... Does he need to? Hell no... but he does and in turn his band reaps the rewards. This didn't hurt anything. It helped. Don't tell me it didn't. Case and point... U2 has sold more reccords on their last 3 albums then they ever did with all their albums combined. It's because Bono is a damn shoe horner now and has to have attention. Jade is no different, only she's not near as talented.

[KeezNah]

"Jade is no different, only she's not near as talented."

Not nearly as talented as Bono, or not nearly talented enough? I don't think any of us has the right to judge how talented a person is without really knowing them.

As far as her gaming portfolio is concerned, she's worked for Sony, produced games for EA and delivered one of the best games ever made along with the great PoP Team. That's more than enough talented for me.

[gw4k]

The whole idea is pretty dumb.

I bought the game because it looked amazing and you know what, it is!
The game is a blast.

This Jade woman is beautiful but she isn't the reason for buying the game and I don't see how this helped anyone make a decision on buying this game.

What are people thinking? Just because you buy the game you may get a shot at having sex with her?

Complete nonsense and a total waste of time, space, and what not.

[snittolo]

But thus is the nature of the interwebz. Even people who are completely normal come online and say some of the most retarded things because you can be anyone and act however you want behind the screen. It is something that will never change, so we all just better start getting used to it.

[LONEWOLF231]

Yes no doubt,BUT not at the expense of other peoples feelings!
And as sixaxis pointed out she is a great Producer, this game is AWESOME and to me there is never a dull moment, but too many people out there believe that UBISOFT used Jades Sex appeal to sell this game and that is BS!

[snittolo]

Yea I don't think it did because I wanted to play the game if they had her talking about it all the time or not. Playing it right now on the first (I think) Assassin mission and it's a really fun game. Hopefully this all blows over soon and the Ubi team can focus on the start of Assassin's Creed 2.

[smturner68]

Snittolo says, "It is something that will never change, so we all just better start getting used to it."

Well, I know what you're saying, but instead, I will embrace this commonly used phrase, "If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem." Don't make excuses for these people. I know that it's always a good idea to try to understand where opposing people are coming from and understand their point of view, and even try to imagine why they think a certain way, but never use the, "that's just the way it is" line when someone's comments or actions are clearly F'd up. I condone freedom of speech completely, but I also think that you should expect people with dissenting views to exercise their freedom of speech to tell someone that they're misguided, or just plain offensive.

[snittolo]

I meant the way of the interwebz in more of a different way of how people talk not the jade comic in question, because no that is something we should never accept. But that's the other problem with the internet, you always need to write a novel so everyone can understand what your saying.

[antoinetm]

It's just more fuss around the game.
Too bad its only limited to 4 or 5 forums :P

Somebody should send this story to the major news sites. \o/

Bad press is better than no press at all.

[pwnsause]

LOL INTERNET!!!!11

[beoulve]

I will buy assasination creed after the patch. Which version is more stable now? PS3 or XBOX 360. I heard both are pretty sh|tty.

[urban bohemian]

I completed final fantasy tactics about 5 minutes ago.....woot Ramza!

[poopface1]

Ihavent had any problems, and the framerate is fine too.

[PS3 Limps on and on]

Not at all, because Assassins Creed fell well below expectations. I haven't played it but reviews are mixed and a lot of people who bought it say it sucks.

[BLACKJACK VII]

AC doesnt suck, it a very good game with alot of innovative elements, & equally, alot of flaws...

As far as Jade, yes, the internet forums with the 12 year olds constantly making sexual references about her since AC was announced has finally come to a head. Someone should have seen this coming. One mistake Ubi made, I dont care if she is the producer, there have been wave after wave after wave of interviews with Jade ONLY about AC for months fueling the whole sexist thing. They would have been smarter to not have her SOLELY in the public eye so much.

However, that website deserved to have their a$$'s sued - I hope Ubi follows through. Sorry Jade, welcome to the sad public perversion & sexism of the internet & the public eye.

It's sad we can't even have just one cute, cool chick in the Industry as a spokesperson without sexual references & explotation.

[bootsielon]

The game would have cast a shadow on the messy blowjob images. However, the game was a buggy pos.

[akumous]

I don't think the company should be sued for their wrong but be forced to take it down, which they did. However, its out and a lot of guys have access to it. It is the internet for God Sake..They're a lot of rude things that have been done to famous people...They're even movies of Nintendo's mascot saying all sorts of profanity and being imaged in sexual situations with other mascots. Even real life celebrities outside gaming had the same faith. It is inevitable and she should live with it and move on.

[Itachi]

why is there such a uproar who actually cares about jade Raymond

when will we ever get back to the topic of games instead of a cartoon picture of a average chick who has been placed on a mantle by sex starved fanboys

I mean people actually defend this sub par game (said in half of the reviews) because of jade Raymond and put her name in lights in the same vane as kojima and miyamoto because she has a pair of tits and not a great game

[wind_dragon]

i believe AC is a subpar game....what has it innovated? SOMEONE PLZ tell me...ohh its a sand box game. OMG that GTA3 innovated that so how is this any different(besides the lack of cars and hella weapons)
Jus cause shes a woman doesn't make her immune to internet gossip. As it stands she is a public figure and can be used in anyway the public see's fit(not like wat the remedial kids did was a good thing tho, which was in fact was a very bad thing but unavoidable none-the-lss) Arnold tried to pull the same S#!+ a few years ago but was overruled.I totally agree that she should not be placed on this high mantle of great producers like Miyamoto-san, Kojima-san, or even David Jaffe...she has yet to wow me, because the game isn't all that great. what makes it different?!

[x440Magnumx]

It's unfortunate she had to get wrapped up in stupid jokes, she's really a beautiful woman. Ubisoft isn't guilty of trying to sex up the game.

Assassin's Creed so far (I've played about 2 hours) is a good game with very fun possibilities, but either the controls are too imprecise for the actions performed or there's a steep learning curve. Combat is ok, but the freerunning can be pretty wonky at times.

I love the concept and the power you feel you have as your playing though.

The story is alright, albeit simple, so far (2 hours in.), and the "sci-fi" portion is tolerable, though the cutscenes get a little tiresome. It's making me look forward to the cutscenes with dynamic dialogue in Mass Effect.

[Marceles]

I just beat Assasin's Creed 5 minutes ago...very repetitive but reviewers who gave it 7's are dumbasses. I'd give it an 8.5, and this game would've sold without her.

[StrboyM]

once again you sad little hornballs are left standing crying over a beautiful woman. what did you expect? all she wanted was your money...lol

in all fairness who cares if it was a girl or not, obviously she didnt make the game herself, she did put her face on it tho....ooohhh ouch. sucks to be you jade...great to be me!!...i dont own that poop!!

[PS360PCROCKS]

"And what the fu*k is this crap about Jade selling the game because she is sexy? Seriously, how many people actually bought Assassin’s Creed because of Jade?"

Thank god someone said it, and someone wrote this blog, and has some damn morals. I got an idea, everyone on this website/forum that for some ODD reason thinks this is funny or ok because she "had it coming she was flaunted in front of the cameras for that reason, sex sells" Go now, go grab your girlfriend, your mom, your sister, some girl, show her the cartoon and than explain that the cartoons ok because "she basically had it coming" and than come back and let us know what they think. Fuc*ing jackasses.

[Infernus]

Totally agree! Bubbles!

[SharpeNoir]

Bubbles for you mate, I think its sick how people think this is acceptable, couldn't have put it better myself. Well done.

[bootsielon]

Nobody said that the game will be bought based on who made the game. However, Jade was pimped indeed. No one would have bothered giving the game a second look was it not for Jade Raymond; I'm not talking about actual purchasing decisions, I'm talking about the press. Sex sells, and Jade has gotten way more coverage than Cevat Yerli, Gabe Newell and John Carmack for their respective games, COMBINED.

I got sick of "Jade this, jade that", "Rumor: Jade on Maxim", and all that, since the game wasn't very convincing initially. Some very fair journalists gave the game the reviews it deserved, and didn't let themselves fall for the hype. Seriously, Halo 3 got a 9.5 thanks to hype, but hey, at least it would have been a 9.0 in the press had it not been for hype. On the contrary, AC got 8.3 and 8.5, 360 and PS3 respectively, on metacritic. With that amount of hype and exclusive interviews, one helps to wonder, how good is the game, actually? Especially since after so much development time, the game is a buggy POS.

Seriously, if the game is actually supposed to speak about Jade's degree in Computer Science, then she was probably not only NOT the best in class, but perhaps the class' bimbo, since she didn't learn anything about software engineering, usability and quality control in the first place; she was there to pass and get a degree, and who knows how many teachers were actually objective (given her looks and all; for a Computer Science chick, that is). If that's the product kind she says it's "A killer app", then I wonder what she deems as "barely acceptable".

Edit:

You're funny.

You quote how I say that something "probably" is true. Quoting you:

"It seems that you don't like a woman doing what you probably think is a man's job. That's my guess."

Yeah, what I "probably" think, right?

Then, there's the hypocrisy of:

"ANY personal attacks on Jade are pathetic" followed by "You don't deserve a woman of her calibur, let alone ANY woman. Masturbating to porn, even cartoon porn is about all you can aspire to."

First of all, I'm not gonna go down to your level and try to insult you. It just doesn't make sense to take personally something that some random guy called me.

Anyway, I never said what Jade raymond "probably" is, based on nothing; I said what she probably is, GIVEN the state of the game; it's a condition needed for the conclusion to be valid; of course, there is more info known than just the game about her, there have been interview. Yes, I used exaggeration to make an argument. I used extreme words, but hyperbole can be useful to make a point on an informal discussion. Had I said "she wasn't the best" wouldn't have made sufficient emphasis on her skills (or lack thereof) in being a software engineer.

By the way, the game is not only NOT perfect; it's buggy. If Jade Raymond was so important to Ubi, then she could have done something about it; she is the PRODUCER OF THE GAME. Bugs are never acceptable. Especially on such a hyped game. The games' average Metascore is higher than it should be, thanks to the hype. Ubisoft simply proved it by cancelling adds for a few press outlets; I wonder how many other outlets got menaced about giving less than acceptable reviews.

I do agree that Jade deserves respect like any person. However, you can't deny that Jade was pimped, and that the game is less than impressive; that should get many angry, as the game wasted many's time and money; 60 hard earned bucks could have gone to better games.

Besides, the fact that she got so much attention makes it even more blatantly obvious that she was pimped, and therefore more off-pissing. Not only that, it's insulting to other women, since she is not the only woman in the industry, there are PLENTY. I seriously doubt she is the hottest woman in gaming out there.

It's obvious that Jade was used to give the game an image more than she should have been. Plenty of press outlets actually emphasised on her looks, and why not? It sells. She definitely helped Ubisoft into making Assassin's creed a "most wanted" amongst many gamers; again, she helped build the hype. Jade was bait so gamers could give the game a second look, when it was never really that appealing. "Prince of Persia meets GTA" except with tons of bugs. Wow, how inspired.

And by the way, even if I didn't deserve a girl, my girlfriend is better than Jade. Life is a B1tch pal.

[smturner68]

Yeah, two things are obvious. Jade is the game's producer, and she is pretty to many people. Sex does sell. Of course they thought that she'd be a good face for the game. But then again, she's a person, and doesn't deserve such crap. Now, all of the sudden, because you feel she's not worthy of 'whatever' you decide to run her down because she 'probably' wasn't good in class. You even called her the class bimbo. You're a sexist. Period. It seems that you don't like a woman doing what you probably think is a man's job. That's my guess.
As far as I'm concerned, ANY personal attacks on Jade are pathetic. She seems like a really nice young lady. She's enthused about her game. It may not be perfect, but most games aren't. She has done nothing malicious to any of you, yet the degrading remarks continue unabated. You offenders make me sick. You don't deserve a woman of her calibur, let alone ANY woman. Masturbating to porn, even cartoon porn is about all you can aspire to. It truly boggles my mind that such people exist and actually say these things thinking they're justified. You're just plain mean.
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Ok, here's my edit. You make a lot of points, the first one that stick in my head is you talking about how other 'probably hotter' women in the industry are being insulted by the attention she gets. LOL. What can I say? How many of them are game producers?
You also said that your girlfriend is 'better' than Jade. At what? I bet she's not a better game producer. Maybe she's better at making YOU feel good. Nobody cares.

As far as the beginning of your edit, you note the 'probably' thing. Yep, you got it. That was intentional. I was using your word back at you. I did say, "that's my guess." It still is.

Then, you point out hypocrisy? lol. Again, You quote me, not getting what I mean. YOU started the insults to her. I said in my first response to you, "She has done nothing malicious to any of you, yet the degrading remarks continue unabated." Did you miss that part? Yes, I insulted you, because you started it with her.

I would agree that she probably wasn't THE top in her class. That's just the law of averages speaking. It's really the BIMBO comment that I took exception with. I also agreed that yes, of course, sex sells. That was no excuse for your rude comment. A rude comment, and hyperbole are not the same. Hyperbole is when you like something and instead of accurately describing it, you exaggerate. An example is "Assassin's Creed is the best game ever!" Or, "that cake was second to none!" I suppose the one thing that is close to hyperbole in your note, is that she was being PIMPED. She was actually used to promote the game that she was in charge of. I don't think it was that planned, like some infer that she's a face more than her skill set, so they primarily used her for that reason . The game was generating attention on it's own before she started being the face of the game.
I wish we were in the same room, so we could address each other directly, and we could maybe come to an agreement. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't insult you. Jade, on the other hand doesn't.

[Infernus]

" Seriously, if the game is actually supposed to speak about Jade's degree in Computer Science, then she was probably not only NOT the best in class, but perhaps the class' bimbo, since she didn't learn anything about software engineering, usability and quality control in the first place; she was there to pass and get a degree, and who knows how many teachers were actually objective (given her looks and all; for a Computer Science chick, that is). If that's the product kind she says it's "A killer app", then I wonder what she deems as "barely acceptable". "

First of all the game isn't supposed to speak about Jade's degree in Computer Science, she said herself in a few interview she doesn't know how the programmers got the game to work as it has done. To be honest, to be a producer (as bad as it may sound) you don't need to know very much at all about programming, you need to make sure the game departments are working along together and that the game is coming along as intended and within the set timeframe. Jade doesn't need to know how to programme Altair to leap from building to building, she just needs to know that it's possible.

I could design you a game right here and now and know nothing about programming...

[Marcellus Wallace]

Yep. Great game.

[WAR]

yeah it's her fault that she is a babe

[akumous]

XBOT FANBOY....only xbox 360 fanboys do insulting things like that..when they finally catch the guy we all going to find out that he owns a 360 and not a PS3...Ps3 users will never do something so childish and disrespectful..and I am not being sarcastic

[WAR]

This is the most un-fanboy article and does not mention any consles but you managed to make it about which fanboy is better.

PS i own only PS consles 1-3 and even psp so i am not an "xbot"

[Lionsguard]

I don't blame Jade at all I mean sure I thought she was hot and all that too but it's the fans who are at fault. Ok so the game sucks, but it's no reason to attack Jade, all she is an attractive girl who's working for a game company, but it's the fans who make it out to be some conspiracy by ubisoft. I'd quit if I was Jade, let Ubisoft hire some ogre girl to be their producer.

[Infernus]

The game doesn't suck.

[PirateThom]

Assassin's Creed is a great game and I do like Jade, she's a nice person, has good PR skills, and I'm not surprised Ubisoft put her to the front of marketing for the game, however, I don't feel sorry for her. There's been a lot worse done to people on the internet and if she's going to get upset at something like that, then she needs to reconsider her forward role in PR.

[ActionBastard]

Why even talk about this, seriously? F*ck her, Ubisoft and AC. All this "drama" is such a waste of time. 3 nerds, bust 3 nuts on a bikini clad, blowjob handing out Jade in a COMIC. End of World: commencing in 3...2...1...

Yes, she's hot. Yes, the game sucks. Yes, Ubi is overreacting simply because their intention is to slap her face on many, many more titles. What kind of role model has 3 hand-drawn loads on them?

[Infernus]

Yeah, that's pretty much the perfect word for the comic, pathetic. Ever wondered why there aren't many female figures at the top of companies in the gaming industry? It's because of things like this.

So because she's female suddenly she's being accused of using sex appeal to sell a game... that's actually laughable in a way, such simple-minded sexism! Jade has every right to be annoyed, upset, pissed off, etc. she's simply been showing us the game she's producing and then she gets accused of all this simply because she's a woman.

Btw I disagree with those saying Assassin's Creed is a bad game, it isn't, it looks great, plays great and if you actually take the time to take in and understand the story behind the game you'd realise the storyline is brilliant and in that sense it makes the game better, I won't give away anything (I'm not one for spoilers) but it's easy to see how sequels could be made set in different eras, the idea behind the game is superb and refreshing, something new and that's what we need.

Personally I like AC, those that don't like repetition, do something else in the game between missions to break it up a bit, you don't have to complete the game in one sitting! You can do what you want when you want so if you're bored of doing one type of mission go find something else to do until you feel like going back to it, explore the city, go find some Templars to take out. At least it's a break from the piles of repetitive FPS stuff we've seen over the past year, don't get me wrong I like FPS's I just tend to support games more if they're going for something different.

Good luck to Jade and Ubisoft for their future ventures, AC is a great game and I'm glad I bought it! How about a game set in ancient Rome? To those who've played AC you'll know how that could be linked storywise :D

[TeaDouble_E]

I wonder how much money she gets on her checks ?

[vilmer]

This is what happens when a beautiful woman becomes an iconic figure in a nerd-infested dimension! I'm with you all the way Jade ;)

[djroberts]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Jinxstar]

Honestly its the price of popularity. The more popular someone is the more publicity they will receive. Including bad pub. She let herself become the face of Assassins creed and if she really didn't expect it then shes naive as hell. I bet everyone in your school talked about the most popular girl and probably not a lot of it was nice. I was actually BMOC and Prom king so I was doing that chick and you know what. She could FVckin stand up for herself and scare half the damn people in the school. If Jade is sulking in a corner due to popularities politics and consequences I have no respect for her. So honestly flame on everyone. Knock me all you want. This site is so damn liberal with many of you. This is Jades issue and she needs to deal with it and make her own damn statement and not stand behind lawyers when it gets a little rough. That would show true character.

I would bet she will come up with some "Psychologicaly damaged" BS. You know what I was in full on firefightes when I was in the Army. I killed people and had friends killed. I don't stand behind nobody.... The chick needs to stand up for herself. Not use excuses and if it were me I would laugh at the comic and make a statement like "Nice art"... Do you know how much respect she would gain in doing that. The only thing that matters is what your friends and family think and as long as they know the truth who gives a crap about public image.

e.g. Olivia munn from G4. I hate G4 but she takes it like a champ and jokes about sex and her being a slut all the time. Thats respect from me.

[smturner68]

She probably realizes that it's some punks. I imagine that she isn't cowering in a corner, but that the company itself has decided to protect her...or do what they feel is protecting her.

As far as being liberal, I don't think it's necessarily liberal to treat women with respect. That should apply to all men.

I wouldn't bet that she's gonna come up with some psychologic damage nonsense that you imagined.

The "nice art" comment is just stupid. If you're a woman, then I will be floored, but I don't think many women would react with that thought. I'm not saying that they'd all freak out, and be shocked...some may just think, 'whatever.' Anyway, the army didn't seem to teach you any manners. If you gained any maturity, you didn't demonstrate it on here. I'm not impressed. Being in a war, or in the military doesn't make a person smart or insightful, or respectful towards women. That's obvious, thanks for all of your credentials, BMOC, but they're irrelevant to this discussion.

[Jinxstar]

I think it is her. The company has no right to step on her personal boundries without her consent.

No its not liberal to treat women with respect but she is a public figure and they get ridiculed. Look at President Bush. All I'm saying is there seems to be a lot of hippies around here. I treat women with much respect as long as they have respect to stand up for themselves. I work to save lives of those weaker then me.

You know she probably wont make up some psychological damage. I didn't say she would. All I said was it wouldn't suprise me. Don't misconstrue what I said.

The "Nice art" comment... Thats personal opinion and you are entitled to yours. All I said was it would make me actually respect her. let me explain. If she ridiculed right back and retaliated to make those responsible realize they can't harm her that way. That would be cool.

No the Army does not teach you manners. They teach you Respect, Honor, Loyalty, Courage and how to find strength you never knew you had and many other things you probably have no idea about. I did mature and the only reason I brought it up was not to point out a maturity factor but to show that I personally have very little respect for people who do come up with "Psychological damage" due to insignificant things. when many people go through much more and come out fine. That to me is a strength and courage thing that many liberal babies in this day and age lack. The military did make me smart and insightful. That along with Oxford University as a FVcking American, I know 4 languages fluently and worked in Intel for many agencies and probably have done more in my life already then 99% of the people on this planet. I have many credentials but do not feel like spouting them out.

As far as my credentials. STFU. Seriously. I was trying to make a point that this is BS and Jade is full of it. I have immense amounts of respect for women. Its not about women or men. Because she is a woman does she need protection? If this was Cliffy B would you care? What about equal rights? Would epic make a full out legal battle for this if it were Cliffy?hell no it would probably be taped to his computer every single day for years to come when he came into work. or is it that shes a woman? She needs to deal with it and allegations due to some comic strip are BS. That is what I am saying. You my friend are a liberal, tree hugging, hippie. That's obvious. You are irrelivant to this discussion.

PM me if you feel like. I see your out of bubbles.

[Wii60_FTW]

lmao @ this whole thing. ASS Creed still sucks. the comic was hilariously true.

[SharpeNoir]

because you're a f*cking thick c*nt.

[radical_pi]

shes pretty but i didnt spend $64.79 because she told me to.

[SharpeNoir]

if some w*ankey little twat on the internet made an offensive cartoon about me. Especially of this nature, I think it's a total disgrace and those responsible should be ashamed. Its pure degradation of women in the professional workplace. Its disrespectful to everything Jade Raymond has achieved in her career, why should she be the victim of such vicious slander? Because she's a woman? Everyone who thought the cartoon was humourous is a f*cking bigot and also should be ashamed of themselves. Assassin's Creed as it turns out is a great game, and gamers are buying it because of that, not because of the female producer. I actually think its a disgrace that certain people on this site think that the cartoon was acceptable. Its nothing more than vile sexist misogynistic bigotry. All of you who think that this cartoon was acceptable are a bunch of f*cking thick immature muggy little c*nts!

[Zeevious]

I support their right to create and publish it.

The 'legal' letter is completely baseless and without any legal precedent.
I'd strongly support anyone who's being bullied by a large company trying to infringe upon, and inhibit legally protected speech in any forum, or format supported by law.

Many other sites and comments have been made concerning the appeal of Jade Raymond, though not as explicitly as this, which is a comedic commentary and no worse than Falwell vs. Penthouse.

Whenever a company with some totally BS-letter can get any form of speech removed, we all suffer.

For instance, I support your rights to say what you've said:
"w*ankey little twat"
"you're a f*cking thick c*nt"
"a bunch of f*cking thick immature muggy little c*nts!" - Etc.
(and YOU complained about the cartoon???)

Why, that cartoon could have been anything...a courtroom drawing of her Jury Duty, Party after college graduation, Assassins Creed planning session, Honeymoon orgy invitation, a page from Ubisofts incentives for new hires...anything!
MY POINT...not all humors in good taste or worthwhile, and nothing more than what you wrote, drawn.

I don't support their content, but I do support their right to create it.

[Enigma_2099]

... and I ain't in it...

[Stray_Wulf]

If Jade gave me head i would so buy the game... lol...

I figured this article needed some comic relief... all your posts are like tense and arguing about everything... its like watching a bunch of politicians arguing over crude humor... CHILL OUT POEPLES and just laugh at this post... :)

[feejo]

she is cute, did you buy the game because of her?

[Tyler Durden]

no but i did buy it bc she told me about it

[Tyler Durden]

mostly every one was raving about this game before it came out and now scince the game wasent what most of those ppl expected they needed someone to blame something on so poor jade happened to be there to take it all like if she made the game all by her self

[Mighty Boom]

How old Jade is?

[Zeevious]

While I won't comment on the quality, or apparent lack of it regarding the tasteless (or tasteful if that's a better pun) comic, there's absolutely no basis for the absurd Ubisoft lawsuit.

Anything drawn like this is considered protected speech. That's something decided decades ago with far more explicit cases than this.

Letters like this are often sent by lawyers in the hopes the people receiving them are uninformed and scared into removing something someone else finds 'offensive'
In reality it's a threat as valuable as the paper it's printed on...and if faxed, even less.

The inclusion of '15 U.S.C. §§1125(x)' is LAUGHABLE, unless Jade's had the cartoon likeness of oral enticements copyrighted or trademarked pursuant to the Lanham Act. Last I checked the public records for UbiSoft, no such trademarks or copyrights exist. Oh and good luck with that pesky JURISDICTION thing, being a French Company from Montreuil-sous-Bois, and hiring a California, LA. law firm to go after a website from MONTANA... If you can't even get ALL THOSE RIGHT, what is this, really?

In my opinion, a MARKETING STUNT...

Think about it:
This would have been some second hand comic on a lesser known site forgotten as quickly, UNTIL the totally worthless 'threat letter' with no legal basis for a claim whatsoever.

NOW it's all over the place, and everyone's talking about Assasins Creed, Jade Raymond producing Assasins Creed, and don't forget 36+D+D's and Assasins Creed...all without one ad-dollar spent.

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Everyones so intent on political correctness that their screaming over the slightest expression outside those rigid boundaries.

Jade has a nice smile to thank her orthodontist or porcelean veneers for, but I don't see anything needing this kind of reaction -- Pimped by Ubisoft or not.

The comic looks like it's just a commentary on her seeming overexposure in a sexual connotation. (C'mon, there's 20 something other comments about it on other sites having nothing to do with Assasins Creed...Why isn't Ubisoft suing THEM, because they're written, not drawn?)

While I may not personally support CREATING a comic like this I will fight to the death for their right TO create it. Shouldn't you?

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P.s. Along the lines of offensive politically incorrect comments: Whoever said gamers are sex-starved hasn't talked to my wife, my girlfriend and my boyfriend... ;)
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and supporting those comments:
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For just $3.95 per minute, you can see what you've been missing on my website...
http://ZRaymondDoesJadeAGir...

- lol

[Enigma_2099]

Good game or not, I am officially SICK of this woman.

[ultraviolentz]

humour is humour, no matter how tasteless. and its JUST humour

[BigPenguin]

Direct repost of what I said in the previous story about this on N4G.

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"I had no idea that it was Ubisoft that made AC, much less Jade Raymond.

I knew about the game, but had no interest in it, I am not a fan of sandbox games unless they are also RPG's(aka love oblivion, don't like GTA)

Because of this article people like me who had no idea will now know. Ubisoft is NOT defending Jades honor like was mentioned earlier, this is just another facet of pimping her out. You can now bet that their will be national news story's on this now.

The news story's will talk about how such a good game was made, and how a giant lawsuit is going to be started trying to protect the honor of their female employee.

House wifes will watch/read this and purchase the game for their kids. They will want to support the nice lady and the honorable company sticking up for her.

This is not a real lawsuit, it is just more press. It is free advertising. Something that any rational company would jump upon. Hell, it is essentially what I do for a living.

Take my bubbles, I do not care, I have to speak my mind, and my opinion is that this is just another way to get word of mouth about the game."
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Already have seen a story on this, and it is a Saturday, wait until the weekday. Honestly, genius move by Ubisoft. Deplorable, yes, but genius.

NOTE: I do not support the comic.

[propheta]

We should only care about the game and the designers, not the PRs and the faces selling it. The artists and their work.

This is the sort of controversy one would find in a sensacionalist newspaper or magazine. Are you videogame players or are you old women discussing soap operas the latest scandal concerning some country's royalty? Grow up people... play whatever game you like and shut yer traps. As if the videogame society wasn't stained enough because of the silly discussions it creates. I see so many people are expressing their opinions on a subject which deserves no consideration.

This whole thing makes me wan't to puke.

[J@D]

It is just me or this defend sound like one of those Britney Spears Defender artciles with any accusation against her o_O. Anyway, I'm quite less that partially not totally agree with all the article.

All that's I want its my patch to fix up my framerate slowdown problems that's all ^_^

[Zeevious]

More or less.

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Thanks for the laugh...best comment I've seen so far!

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more or less -- And I am unanimous in that.

[Nytr8]

Some people are so pathetic.

Assasins Creed is a wonderfully realized idea. People complain about the most pathetic things.

This game is for the dreamers not the cynical. Its about immersing yourself in another world where you can put yourself in the shoes of one badass assassin, I for one love it.

Did anyone play the early Zelda games? remember how cappy they looked, how much repetition was there. but it wasn't about that, it was about loosing yourself in the world of Zelda, engulfing yourself in the fantasy. Using your imagination.

Now all people do is analyze and criticize, don't even see whats in front of them and just always look for the bad and ignore the good. My advice to those people is Shutup and Fixup.

Having Jade promote the game is just a nice added benefit but has no bearing on the actual game. It seems people are just finding any excuse to post any old sh*t on the internet.

If you aren't tainted by cynicism and still have some imagination left and own a PS3 or Xbox, just buy it and play it, You will love it.

[titntin]

Sad as it is... many people used Jades 'appeal' to get more coverage than they would have achieved without her. It WAS getting to the point where whe was attracting as much coverage as the game, and ubi helped to encourage that.
There was nothing wrong with her being the face of the game, she was well qualified to be so, and its notmal to have the producer talk to the press about the product.

But when the coverage about her becomes almost as much as the game, theres something wrong, and you can expect people to comment and take 'pot shots' at that situation. Watching Gamer TV over the last year here in the UK, every time they covered Assassins Creed they made some 'boy' comment about Jade and had loads of shots of her, and very little of the game. I found it annoying and distasteful - not all gamers are hairy handed teenagers. Given this coverage, it was a given there would be some negitive backlash.

[TheMART]

Well they didn't put Jade in every interview over nothing for sure.

Ubisoft knows she looks nice, Ubi knows she'll get extra attention with her games then another nerdy guy would get.

So yes, Ubi used her sexy image to at least put the game under everyones attention. If they pushed it to sell the game more to users I would doubt gamers would buy it because of Jade talking about it.

[felidae]

She's a beautiful woman - of course Ubi used her face to promote Assassin's Creed.

But it's sad that gamers have to talk sh1t about her.

[TheExecutive]

lol, this is what happens when you get a bunch of sexually frustrated little brats and older less mature sexually frustrated people together. Plain old retarded behavior... well I wouldnt use retarded, that would do a disservice to the mentally handicaped people out there.

[Salvadore]

Apparently some people haven't seen a goodlooking gamer.

[Crazyglues]

This would have be over four days ago if they just didn't sue. Yes some gamers are cruel, or stupid, or both.

But one thing you don't do is pour fuel on the fire. I'm surprised they did this. No comment would have been a much better move.

This just made everyone want to know what was so bad they had to hit the website with a the threat of legal damage. I mean seriously come on, some gamers put sex on everything so this was bound to happen but for Ubisoft to go crazy about it, or jade to be upset is just stupid.

But if they wanted the story to go big, I guess they did the right thing because now it's on the front page. enjoy

Welcome to CrazyWorld

[Zeevious]

They "sued" on PURPOSE for the very marketing reasons you state!

The basis for the lawsuit:
'15 U.S.C. §§1125(x)' is an absolute joke, so is tying a cartoon; known, protected free-speech to the Lanham Act.

The key to this being nothing but UbiSoft marketing stunt is the fact they are a French-based company, hiring a California lawfirm to file against a Montana website, and not even in the websites county, or anywhere near the jurisdiction.

More importantly...wheres the upline providers letter? With any infringement, DMCA or other there is ALWAYS a letter sent to the sites upline HOST. Interesting that there is none in this case. (It would be noted in both the letter and c.c.)

It's a TOTAL marketing ploy, and while Assassins Creed may be an impressive game, I've lost significant respect for UbiSoft.

What company would do this to one of their employees to save a few ad-dollars?

Is the IP address of the cartoon's poster tracing back to France or UbiSoft servers? We may never know since the FAKE threat letter got it pulled...how conveniently perfect.

Ubisleaze should apologize to Jade for their disreputable treatment of her...

And of course give me thousands in the Pain and Suffering I have experienced as the result of this horrifying act of blatant corporate insolence.
Why when I heard the news I fell from my place in front of the very Assassins Creed game they are selling and screamed: I'M BLIND & I CAN'T FEEL MY LEGS! -- Thank the gods my law-firms on voice-dial.

So, Anyone for a class-action suit?

Contact:
Dave Anderson
Nixon Peabody LLP
555 West 5th Street, 46th Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90013
(t) 213-629-6095
(f) 866-532-8491
[email protected]

Hurry, your time limit for mitigating damages may be running out!
Oh, and don't forget, it's a quick, decisive stab to kill victim 3, not 4...and yes, he deserves it.

[jinn]

assassins creed sold itself, she just watched it happen

[jinn]

she does have the best smile. :)

[ROCCOZILLA]

cant make one game right.

[Chriswsm]

Ubisoft made a slightly faulty game, they are not the first.
Pretty lady helps bring attention to a product, again not a first.
Kids on the internet say innapropiate things, surely not.
Large companies lack a sense or humour, no $h*t!
Lawyers are happy when the above happen, honest.

Nothing new here.

[Guardian0fPeace]

people are just playing the blame game, and in this case, people are blaming Raymond or being hot...that's just stupid. would they rather she look like an orc?

[Hollander]

It is sad that when an Industry dominated by the male persuasion finally has a woman in charge to have that woman being defiled in this manner. And worse still to have some people say it is here own fault…

I don’t know if suing was a good Idea but I wanted to know what all the commotion was about so I looked for the comic in question and I cant seem to find it any where.
So maybe the did take the right course of action. Surly the commotion will die down soon and most of us here will have never seen the comic. If they had done nothing the comic would have been every where by now.

[hardcorehippiez]

whether it was intended or not jades sex appeal did help to sell this game to certain demograph .probably most of said culprits are the ones that now think the game is bad whereas those that actually find the topic of the game interesting bought it for a whole different reason. i dont see wot the attraction is personally but any1 who is in the spotlight have to be prepared to take ridicule no matter how bad it is . doesnt make it right what has happened but its only an attempt at humour and should be laughed off as such. the pending courtcase is equally as laughable

[neophytemax]

The comic is still up at DeviantArt, and DA most probably won't remove it. Sad, considering all the publicity. Still, I suppose it's DA's way of enforcing free speech and preserving an artist's right to create, even if it's offensive to someone.

http://teh-dave.deviantart....

So any registered DA member can look up the horrid thing online and bypass the mature content filter.

[Chriswsm]

I just registered in order to take a look and it is not all that funny and hardly all that insulting. Juvenile perhaps. Nicely drawn tho.

[Pain]

Well They did use her Picture sellin Image ALOT to sell this game from 1 point of a view, but
leave it to a bored person to spin it one way, So its kinda a what u get thing.

My Reason?? Every time i read or seen anything about this game, it was jade's pic was selling it.
(mabey they thought the same)

BUT!!!! i Dont agree with how it was done. ( i saw it, and dont like it >.< )

[andron]

Nobody does.

So she can't do publicity because she looks good? It sounds like some people cant control themselves. Looks and gender doesn't matter, people should be treated the same.

And she didn't do the publicity in a swimsuit or any in any inappropriate way.

So grow up and think how bad you make gamers look...

[Enigma_2099]

I also think it's true that Something Awful shouldn't be threatened with a lawsuit over someone else's comic...

[Shaka2K6]

assasins flop does suck though horrible game.