Justin Lacey isn't sure if he is frustrated more by Nintendo's mistakes or the anger level of its critics.
No but they made a huge mistake with the 3DS and they need to know that they've done wrong......how are they supposed to learn anything. Others just miss the old Nintendo from back in the day since the new Nintendo seem too big headed
Nintendo hasn't changed. The entire mentality of the gaming industry has. If people didn't want Nintendo to fail, than the stories bashing them would sound more insightful and analytical, but they almost never do. They're just filled with snarky critiscism, clear bias and propaganda like rhetoric (is that spelled right?). Go to Kotaku and read some of their stories on the matter. Jim also, of destructoid.
the 3ds is doing good despite people getting up in arms over this new circle pad add-on. I would think they would include it with the first game for those who want the game and need the pad. Then I can see them selling it by itself for those who want it for other games. Interesting approach though. A wireless pad interface with the 3ds and powere by a single AAA battery. I also like how it give the 3ds some thickness to help hold and play better. If anything i can see this being made into a wii-u controller for certain games. That would be neat. Those that want nintendo to fail are saying so because of their long time run in the top spot for handhelds. The psp shook things up but regardless of the technical specs....its all about the games. DS had games the psp crowd probably wouldnt have appealed to which is why they were on the ds. The same will happen with the 3ds and vita games. Sure both will get multiplatform games but it will be the quirky ones that sets each other apart. I dont want nintendo to fail. I'd like to see the return of sega if they did however.
i doubt most people want nintendo to fail, the 10% minority on the internet always has a way to seem like the 90% of the internet if people wanted nintendo to fail there wouldnt being any sales of software/hardware, etc.
It seems to me that this Gen, anything thats not made in the U.S( like microsoft) gets bashed in some type of way, form or time. Do I like the Wii?! hellz NO! but do I want Nintendo to fail?! F$#K no! I want microsoft to:D
I don't like Kotaku either, mostly because of their 3DS news. I don't see how WhiteLightnigs comment was blocked. I mentioned Kotaku, and he replied about Kotaku. Seems on topic to me...
It's just like SONY after the PS2. Remember how the media treated the PS3? They wanted it to fail so bad and now we're seeing the same thing. After absolutely dominating with the DS, the media wants to see Nintendo fall.
Depends on what you call the media. A large majority of the "media" on N4G are just kids with a website trying to cash in on the controversy. Also, I see a lot of senseless bias by people in the comment sections. There is clear reason to criticize Nintendo, but I see some of that go overboard
What's a Nintendo? Just Kidding as my hand still hurts from their stupid square controllers for the NES. No i don't wanna see them fail but just get their crap together and stop releasing new hand held models every two months. Also for once make a more Mature themed Zelda to put all other RPG's to shame. Sure Zelda is cool as is but man a Zelda game that has no kiddie marketing involved would be SO GRAND!!
Zelda's not an RPG. Also, The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess is rated T (i am not sure how mature you expect them to go). Completely agree with you on the "new handheld every 2 months" though.
Shoe, meet other foot.
Not me but I'm sure some fanboys would. I don't think a lot of gamers today were around when Nintendo were great (80's/early 90's). They need to go back to their roots.
Just because Nintendo was great in the 90's and saved the video game industry in the 80's, does not mean that you should look the other way when they make stupid decisions.
I kinda want to go back to the good ole days when Nintendo had all the best shit. I mean, are there any Nintendo fanboys? (Other than Darkcharizard....) I hope with the WiiU they bring new IPs along with them
Nintendo never "saved the gaming industry", that's just a overblown statement Nintendo fans always talk about, even though it's grossly inaccurate.
No but many others do, but there opinion i dont care.
Idiots do. There are always idiots out there who want a game to bomb because they don't like the company's new direction, or hope a system fails. As much as I hate CoD, I don't want the games to tank. And I don't hate Nintendo at all, so why would I desire their failure? People's livelihoods depend on these things, and as someone who was jobless is this crap economy, I really don't wish that on anybody.
I don't. I would like them to make a product I am interested in though.
No, but they better get their shit together. This is not the 90's anymore where you can create an add-on and hope it does great. Hell, back then it still was a stupid idea. Both Sega and Nintendo loved to do this kind of bullshit. Same thing happened with the extra RAM for the N64 and motion+ as well. Release the damn product when you believe it's 100% done. Nintendo stated that they didn't need a second analog stick but look a them now. They are going to release this monstruosity: http://i56.tinypic.com/2edb... beware, it can melt your eyes.
it's Capcom, who were asking for this add-on.. On-topic: I don't want Ninty to die, because best games that I've played were on Nintendo platforms.. (and on PS1, PS2 too :))
The fact that Kojima productions, Square Enix and a couple of other companies have it, make me think Capcom wasn't the only one.
It's best for us all if Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all continue to maintain profitable slices of the market. Competition drives innovation.
words made of gold :)
yes they ruin this generation so i hope they go to hell once for all ... i bought a game cube they fucked up i bought a wii they did the same i bought a 3ds they fucked up why i want support a company who produce trash ...but i must admit i m the stuoid one who bought they products
I wouldn't say they f*cked up with the Gamecube, it had a range of great creative titles. Mario Kart Double Dash, Pikman and Super Bros Melee were amazing
When you compare the GCN with the beast that was the PS2, you can clearly see that Nintendo could have done better. Sure it had a couple of great titles, but I only owned 7 games that I was interested in, while I gathered around 50 games for PS2. GCN seriously lacked third party support.
Whose fault was it that third parties left Nintendo for Sony? Gamers who bought Sony consoles, and Sony for being there. Nintendo couldn't do anything about that instantly. That's why they're doing it now.
ronin4life- bullcrap. Nintendo became hard headed and decided not to advance the video game industry and continue using shitty, expensive carts for the N64 when the Sega Saturn, Sega CD, Jaguar CD and Playstation 1 (etc.) were already supporting Cd based tech. Game developrs like SE (FFVII) and Konami (MGS1) moved to the PS1 because of the CD tech and for the power of the console itself. Nintendo loves to make "innovative" peripherals or add-ons, and they have sometimes worked in the past (D-pad, rumble, etc), but in terms of moving forward, console wise, they are horrible. The only exception being the GCN (which was still weaker than the Xbox, but more powerful than PS2). Now they will release a console that goes on par (and rumors say a little bit better) with consoles released in 2005-06? really?
white sharingan, that's exactly right. I knew that already, and never said that wasn't the case. People going over to sony was caused by this. Did Nintendo make a mistake? Maybe. But that is what happend, and Nintendo couldn't do anything about it afterward. But now they are trying to do something about it, and look how everyone reacts. Also, what's wrong with ps3/360 level graphics? If the WiiU was more powerful, the result would be prettier, shallow and expensive to make games. I'd rather have a stable platform with sub-par graphics and a focus on quality programming over a more complicated, hard to develop for system with stronger graphics capabilities. Because then more games will be made, with fewer glitches( hopefully, anyway). Imagine if the 360 focused on ease of programming and proccessing power over just graphical output. The result could have been Halo 3 with halo 2 graphics, 100 enemies onscreen, each with dynamic AI, and 60fps (maybe. I'm no tech expert.). Or games that use prosccessing power to create completely new experiences, instead of last gen games that just look better, which is what we have had the past gen so far. The Wii did this, but instead with a different way to control the games. Of course, we all see how that played out, for better or for worse, I have no real opinion. Game advancement should be about upgrading and changing the experience. Sprites to 3d models did just that, as did refining those 3d graphics. But now we are at the point were that's not enough anymore, because it's not really changing or refining the experience enough on it's own. I don't know if the WiiU's solution is the best way, but it IS better than simply making the same system with stronger graphics. Ultimately, we will have to just wait and see how it all works out. ...That post was to big... I'm feeling [email protected][email protected]
Metal gear:twin snakes Eternal Darkness Donkey kong jungle beat Resident Evil 4, 1st remake, zero Luigi's mansion Super mario sunshine Viewtiful joe 1 & 2 Killer 7 ..and more.. :) sure it's not better than PS2 was, but still it was better for me than Xbox
If you think that Mario, Zelda etc. are trash... then why would you buy a Nintendo console?
I'm not a big Nintendo fan (their games generally aren't my cup of tea). That said, my daughter owns a Wii and a DS (and loves them) and I think they (Nintendo) have their place in the industry and a lot of fans. I really hope they can turn this mess around and put their [email protected]#$ together.
No more then people who seem to want to see Sony fail. Ever since they dominated the gaming world with the PS1 and PS2 and took down 4 different consoles with them everyone seems to have an axe to grind . BTW I don't want to see Nintendo fail, I just don't like what they have become as opposed to the SNES and N64 days.For instance when was the last time Nintendo came up with a main or even normal character that stands out like Link, Mario and Samus? (Waluigi? Daisy? Koopa jr?) Or properly supported and got behind a new IP?
It isnt failing. Its on pace to outsell the ds's first fiscal year
it's seem like alot of people on this site would love for them to fail.monster hunter 4 got announced for 3ds and i barley saw anything about it on this site.if it was on a sony or microsoft system we would see tons of articles for the next two days on how that system is going to rule japan.but we see nothing cause its on 3ds. and i love how everyone is flipping out about the add-on analog stick for 3ds.if you don't like it don't get it!all the games that use it will have another option to play with out it but nobody wants to mention that right?if you want console like control then get it and just use it at home and when you go out or have to bring the 3ds on a trip use a control method that doesn't use it. thats simple enough right?and we all know they will bring out a new 3ds they do it with all there portables.so the new one will have two sticks and the old one will need the attachment.it's not that be of deal i got one and don't feel screwed at all cause if i want two sticks i got the option!
Oh come now, really? First of all I don't understand why gamers want other people to be excited for their games fo them. Go be excited for your games yourself. I saw an article with new footage of Gravity Daze from TGS and it had only ten people in it but I don't go around accusing everyone here of trying to downplay GD. Also if the situation was reversed and the 3DS came out with the dual joysticks first and the VITA came out with an attachment to add another joystick there would be hundreds of articles saying 'Sony is a copycat' or 'how dare they make us pay for this junk' or 'why didn't you think of it like Nintendo did' while everyone would be 'flipping out' quoting 'Nintendo leads while Sony follows',down playing the VITA and jeering at anyone who said the attachment is not that bad. But you believe, like many gamers, that your system or game is 'special' and exempt from critism. If Sony had done this no one would ever let it drop but with Nintendo its a 'good idea'.
yup. they need a wake up call. i want the Wii u to fail i want the 3ds to fail i want them to suffer just enough until they understand that GRAPHICS POWER ,and new ideas on how games are played out are key ,not new ideas on how to play them. And for goodness sake make the next system future prof ( Blu ray , CD , DVD something). Understand this Nintendo, your super Nintendo beat Sega because of its advantage in power . all your other systems failed in a lot of ways because you didnt make it future prof so i say make a system that has the edge or compete in power(graphics ,hdd space,hd 720, 1080p) make a system that plays domesticated formats so dvd playback will be a bonus for customers( not sum lab experiment disk that you guys made that no one ever heard of) and most of all give us an evolution of the snes controller this will never happen , so HELL YES... FAIL NINTENDO. FAIL , your not trying your defying
^^^Looks like somebody doesn't know video game history. When has a technologically superior console ever won? Since when has any console been future-proof?
lol i have been gaming for years owned every system that came out except neo geo and jaguar 64 i know my history pretty well , and i have stacks of old egm and gamepro mags to read if i ever forget. well if you paid attention the only powerful systems that never came out on top was the xbox, and the ps3. and it was major factors behind the two. xbox being the new comer , and ps3 late arrival and high price tag. the snes replaced the nes, and out shined the genesis .the ps1 killed the snes and genesis ,then out shined the Saturn . the n64 would have followed the patternn if it didnt stick to the cartridge format. The dreamcast killed the ps1, the ps2 killed the dreamcast. and consoles been future proof since the ps2. a system that came out in 2001 and you can playback Thor dvd (2011) or other new movie that released today.
"well if you paid attention the only powerful systems that never came out on top was the xbox, and the ps3" lol you really have no idea do you? seriously those are the only two you could find ?? ! Funny really, funny. The NES beat out the more powerful Master system, and TurboGrafx-16. And you can also throw the commodore 64 in there too as it had much better sound with the SID chip and had higher end graphics compared to the NES. But the high price of the c64 and the long loading times of the disk drive or tape loader really let it down. But there were much higher quality games, they just never made an impact on the mainstream like the family friendly nes did Ahh the Monochrome gameboy flogged the Sega Game gear and atari Lynx The ps1 was 32bit and the n64 was 64 (graphics wise, which you seem to love so much) The Super nes come out on top barely beating the mega drive (only because of donkey kong country), hence It had nothing to do with graphics but the games that it came out with. ^ Plus the neo geo was out at the same time was much more powerful than either two and never became mainstream due to its high price. Not graphics The DS well and truly outsold the more powerful PSP You can also name many many many failed "higher end" consoles that just utterly failed. Not because of graphics, but just plain and simple too many crappy games. The 3DO and jaguar come to mind, but im sure there are MANY more You said- ".the ps1 killed the snes and genesis ,then out shined the Saturn . the n64 would have followed the patternn if it didnt stick to the cartridge format." You say the ps1 killed the snes etc etc ^ They were in different generations...naturally the newer system that wasnt 6 years old would sell much better by that point in time. And the N64 was more powerful (again i say this because you seem to love "power"). But the Cd was just storage, had nothing to do with grit power. It had 200 mb on the cartridge (700 for cds, and 500 for the cartridge). It was the reason for 3rd parties jumping ship, but the n64 still made some of the best looking, and best playable games of the generation. Ocarina of time and Mario 64. For example Its funny though how you say you really know your history. Because I laughed and I laughed.
didnt know i was being quized . if i felt like adding those consoles i would have. come on man turbo graphics? commadore 64? ok i guess so if you want to be anal about it. and you can stop with all that down talk like you know more about games than me . i dont feel like cyber fighting today. add me on the psn and lets see whos the better gamer. lets do sum Hard corps 2p mode, or streets of rage 2 co op
"turbo graphics? commadore 64? ok i guess so if you want to be anal about it." Yeh why not they were 8 bit consoles that had many of the same games. Plus i noticed you never mentioned the master system. Which alone squashes your ps3/xbox only powerful consoles that lose theory. And why not comment on the rest of my list. Streets of rage is a great game, I love any retro game. I would prefer contra 3 or 4 over hard corps tho, better games but they aint online. Or how bout street fighter 2? Or tatsunoko vs capcom?? I just wish super ghouls n ghosts had some kinda online so i could leave you trailing in the dust or in your undies as that particular game would have it
^ my point with the n64 btw was that it still got out sold by a under powered console even tho the n64 had quality games with great graphics. Games sell a console. Not the graphics. Sometimes you get both tho. Like the snes
Some gamers want Nintendo to fail. There seems to be this strange assumption that if Nintendo fails, then they will go 3rd party. All of those brilliant IPs up for grabs. Although the joke is on them, Nintendo will never go 3rd party. But that is the only logical, secure reason that i can think of. Nintendo has brought so much to the industry, and continues to do so. However, i do want that 3DS add-on to fail. It is just so gross and insulting to me. How long have we been making analog sticks now? Don't even try it Nintendo, just remodel the 3DS while you have the time. Vita will be here soon.
I would never want the company that introduced me to the NES to fail in the gaming industry. I simply want them to pay more attention the the gamers instead of doing everything on their own and feel they have the perfect ideas. I also would like them to stop being so cheap. I mean, they always give us the same exclusives.(Marios, Zelda, Metroid, etc) nothing new...and it seems 75% of every third party game for Nintendo is crap, gimmicky, or mainstream games.I'm hoping they change all of that with the WiiU. I was hoping the 3DS would work with the WiiU like Vita will with PS3. Looks like they wanna give us a pad instead with more gimmicks. I just think that they will only truly learn to be a better company if they feel the burn...when they start to fail then they will care for us gamers once again.
It's tall poppy syndrome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Some people are annoyed that Nintendo outsold the competition this gen with a low-powered console. Other people are annoyed they went in a different direction and attracted a different audience.
All of these comments from Sony fanboys on this site? Yup. 7_7
I think they need to fail. They need to see that their new casual audience is not there for them, but it is US, the harcore that have supported them over the years. Its about time they show us some love. Scrape the Wii U Nintendo! Announce the Nintendo Revolution next E3 and show us some true next gen power and massive hard drives.
damn dude ur a sad guy -_____-
there's no place on this site for the old Nintendo fans that got left behind after the gamecube dissapointed us late in its life span. they went sponge bob on us with the Wii. everytime they released a mature title it felt wrong and out of place.i use to defend Nintendo ,but now they are truly a kids system. we all love kid games every now and then but all the damn time ? i can tell you are an old school gamer that loved when Nintendo was always was on top . hasn't been that way in years. and it will never be that way again unless they FAIL .they so damned focus on the wrong things.
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