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EA: Battlefield 3 not expected to beat Modern Warfare 3

After all the mudslinging, EA now says that they do not expect Battlefield 3 to beat Modern Warfare 3 in sales.

xX-StolenSoul-Xx4611d ago

It was never expected by me, Call Of Duty has a huge fanbase and i was never expecting them to just ditch the game.
But with that said a lot of my buddies I met on Cod are going to pick up this title so I'm sure this game will sell very good.
Can't wait till release date :) As a longtime Battlefield fan i think this game was long overdue.

LOGICWINS4611d ago

“Just to be clear, the [Call of Duty] franchise did about 23 million units worldwide. We don’t expect to surpass them with this year’s Battlefield 3, just to be very clear.”

LMAO, this makes EA look so stupid. How do you spend months talking smack about a game that you know you can't beat?

It's like saying that Usain Bolt isn't really that fast...even though you KNOW he'd smoke you in any footrace.

Shackdaddy8364611d ago

Because talking smack gives them more sales. If you talk smack people will eventually start to listen and buy their product over the competitions.

LOGICWINS4611d ago

^^Absolutely agree. EA looks even more dumb now because they need to use smack talk to get attention instead of letting the game speak for itself.

Hufandpuf4611d ago

That's not dumb to admit the competition is going to win in sales. EA never said they were going to outsell COD, they said it will be a better game and that it will take a chunk out of COD's sales. The mission was never to outsell them even though that'd be great for them.

LOGICWINS4611d ago (Edited 4611d ago )

"That's not dumb to admit the competition is going to win in sales."

It is after you talk crap about them for the past few months...but thats just my opinion.

"They never said it would sell more
they said it would be a better game."

I personally don't see how you can determine which one of these games is better gameplaywise. Ones an arcade shooter and the other is a tactical one. Graphics and sound is a different story though...a battle that BF3 has already won on the PC from a technically perspective.

Gameplaywise, they are incomparable IMO.

Darkfocus4611d ago

they said it would be a better game. It looks like it'll deliver on that.

Peppino74611d ago

All they've been saying is that their game is better, which it obviously is, but selling more is a different argument. I have friends that are buying cod JUST because other friends are only buying cod. It will be a social decision instead of quality.

Sarcasmology4611d ago

How is that admitting 'defeat'? They're doing nothing but pointing out there's a hell of a lot of retards that support a different product.

hiredhelp4611d ago

Im sure much of the smack talk wasnt aimed at the game itself. but under neaith really it was more aimed to get activisions back up its been on going for ages.

theflyindutchman4611d ago

@logicwins:
could not agree more!
typical EA, same sh!t last year with MoH.
i liked the game and i wil like BF3 but come on EA STFU ur sounding so fkn stupid!

ScoobyDrew4610d ago

Logicwins,

The only reason that MW3 will sell more is because It's still riding the bandwagon from cod4.

Petro4610d ago (Edited 4610d ago )

"I personally don't see how you can determine which one of these games is better gameplaywise. Ones an arcade shooter and the other is a tactical one."
I couldn't disagree more with this line, as you can easily say when you compare any two games which is the better one, as it is your opinion.

Lets compare Duke Nukem Forever with Fallout 3, obviously you can say that Fallout 3 is the better game, even tho they are somewhat different genre. And I also can say that clearly from all I have seen that Battlefield 3 is the better game when you compare it to Modern Warfare 3.

XboxInnovation4610d ago

They used Call of Duty to get attention in the headlines and to get the attention of Call of Duty fans. They are also using Frostbite 2 nonsense to hype their game. We all know it's just an upgraded engine, not a brand new engine and that the PC graphics were always going to be jaw dropping regardless.

ShadowJetX4610d ago

The main mission EA is trying to accomplish here is too take away from cod's fanbase to diminish cod's rep/fanbase and absorb them into their own franchise. At least thats how I see it.

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morganfell4611d ago (Edited 4611d ago )

If any side can be said to win then it wll be BF3 because quality > sales. There are a great many people for whom that simple thought is a mystery. You see it often. They are the real losers in this battle of ideas.

Arnon4611d ago

After the cowardly attack you did to me by trying to lecture me, then block me... I hate to say it, but I completely agree with your comment.

Sales are going to be the last thing you should think about when it comes to this game. Also, if BF3 actually scores higher than MW3, and receives more awards, I guarantee you it will sell better in the long run.

jessupj4611d ago (Edited 4611d ago )

I amazed you only have one bubble morgan. You are always pro sony, but I almost always agree with you and your posts are always well structured with a good arguement.

Guess you've been targeted by a certain group of people.

But while we haven't played either of the games ourselves, from the videos and information we've seen I have to strongly agree BF3 will be the better game by far, in terms of quality of course. We all know the sheep will flock to COD in the millions. Of course that's just subjective. I can't make an objective opinion until I have played both games.

skeletonss4611d ago

i never thought i would agree with you. but i just did.

Arnon4611d ago (Edited 4611d ago )

Call of Duty is pretty much the epitome of a loyal fanbase. I mean, the game has been the same thing for the past 4-5 years. It doesn't get anymore loyal than that. Battlefield 3 however, while not winning in terms of overall sales, will (most likely) win in terms of quality, experience, features, replay ability, awards, reviews, sound, graphics, etc..

EA and DICE have all the right in the world to downplay this franchise. Maybe if it makes a huge dent in it's sales and reputation, they might actually spend more time on one of the titles and make it worth playing. I'm sure everyone here would be perfectly fine waiting a couple years for a new Call of Duty, just so it can be somewhat different from it's predecessor.

On a completely unrelated note; Dice, for the love of God, release Mirror's Edge 2 on the Frostbite 2 engine.

xX-StolenSoul-Xx4611d ago

Mirrors Edge 2!!! who knows... maybe it'll be their next project? Besides supporting Bf3 that is.

RedDead4610d ago

It's not loyal, they just don't know any better, Cod attracted alot of new gamers. They think it's normal for a sequel to come out each year and they think it's the greatest thing going, simply because they just don't give other games a chance. I know people who only buy one game a year and it's COD.

RioKing4610d ago

Wow this is a suprise...not! (Said with Borat voice)

It's funny, I stated this obvious fact in another article recently....only to be met with a TON of disagrees. Like I said before, I guess the truth hurts for some people.

I, for one, like that it's not as popular as cod, so there's more hardcore players online than 10 year-olds yapping into my ears...

ape0074610d ago (Edited 4610d ago )

what's the problem with being accessible??

it's a style for play

burnout is more accessible GT

super mario galaxy 2 is accessible, 5 year old can enjoy it and it's the highest rated game in this generation of consoles and a masterpiece

mgs is far more accessible than splinter cell chaos theory, yet both give outstanding experience in their certain aspects

I don't understand people saying it's causal, yes call of duty appeals to both the very casual, and core, most pure thirsty core gamers out there, but does that means it's sucks because it's simple? absolutely not

every developer should do what they do BEST to give us the best experience they can

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AngelGirl164611d ago

Of course it not but it gone to be the better game.

LOGICWINS4611d ago

And I assume you've already spent sufficient time with both games to make that determination right?

AngelGirl164611d ago

I watched alpha gameplay from the pc version and it plays like the battlefield games i love.

vortis4611d ago

LOGICWINS, you're joking right?

Ancient tech vs the latest in Frostbite and you're asking how someone can determine which will be better?

That's like saying who is more likely to shoot you in the face while on a duck hunt: Obama or Cheney...we all know who is better with a gun.

Motorola4611d ago

Tech doesn't make it good. Look at Crysis 2. Game was pretty bad. Just because its technically better doesnt mean its a better game.

Chaotic_Lament4611d ago

@Vortis

Crysis and COD4 both came out in 2007. So by your logic, Crysis had much better multiplayer gameplay over COD4 simply because it had a better engine and tech.

LOGICWINS4611d ago

"Ancient tech vs the latest in Frostbite and you're asking how someone can determine which will be better? "

So better tech always means a better game/gaming experience?

Tr10wn4610d ago

"So better tech always means a better game/gaming experience?" in N4G...... yes, in reality no, hence crysis and gran turismo 5 is another good example.

Ser4610d ago

/shurg

I won't be purchasing MW3. I participated in the BF3 Alpha - which confirmed for me which game would be better.

All CoD titles (thus far) have all played the same for the most part. If MW3 is sticking with the tried and true formula of previous CoD titles, yes, I've already made the decision in my mind. Battlefield 3.

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NYC_Gamer4611d ago

there is enough room for both franchises to be successful

TekoIie4611d ago

Notice how people respond to the smack talk comments and no where near as much to the ones praising both games equally? this shows EAs puplicity stunt worked but it does make them look stupid...

Rearden4610d ago

For sure. Both games are expected to sell well above 10 million. Any game that sells 10 million units is a huge success, with over $500 million in revenue.

JellyJelly4611d ago

As long as it does well enough in sales for them to continue producing these fine gems I'm all fine & dandy with it.

death2smoochie4611d ago

BF3 will never outsell any COD game. Not possible.
That's reality at the moment.
However we all know based n what has been shown and gameplay which is the better quality game.

narutogameking4611d ago

Yes better quality in terms of graphics.

but in terms of gameplay and replayabililty MW3 wins.

death2smoochie4611d ago

Based on what I have saw from both? BF3 looks to be the better game overall.
The fact you can use vehicles/jets etc. Use structures as defense, offense wins out easy imo.
MW3 is nothing more than a rehash of all other COD games with poor visuals and physics.
You actually have a very hard time distinguishing the difference between MW2 and MW3...and that's sad.
The ONLY thing Activision is claiming is 60fps.
Really?
Tell me how it beats out BF3 in game play?
Aim Assist? Camping galore? Easy for a 7 year old to play?

http://www.collegehumor.com...

Replay ability?
That is fully subjective.
MW3 is a casual FPS game. That will definitively suit the young kids who play the game.

AngelGirl164611d ago (Edited 4611d ago )

@ Death

You being kind of a fanboy. Battlefield 3 doesn't really have that many major changes either. They added jets and there a huge graphical update.The enviroments will be less destructible :(. There are some little changes and new ablites to classes and other little things but that pretty much it.

Now MW3 did change up their kill streak system and added alot of balance changes and new perks.

Don't just blindly attack one game. Both games have aim assist. Both games have campers. I personally noticed battlefield has alot more snipers in their games so that leads to more camping. I play battlefield alot and i noticed a few immature people on there as well. So both games have their faults and both are gone to be good.

Caffo014611d ago

@Angelgirl18

does battlefield have aim assist? are you sure?never played bf2 but i'm sure Bad company didn't have it..

Sub-Zero854611d ago

LMAO what are u lookin @ ? The destruction in BF3 is beautiful , the sound of the weapons all sound authentic , they completely changed the melee attack , and instead of just crouching down u can now crawl on the floor those are all huge upgrades all COD games same unrealistic gameplay !!

ScoobyDrew4610d ago

I hope all of you know that you're buying a 60 dollar expansion pack...

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Rearden4610d ago

It will give CoD a run for its money. The reason CoD dominated was because it had no real competition over the past few years. It has now.

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Call of Duty Players Disappointed by $80 B.E.A.S.T. Glove Bundle Deal

Recently, players of Modern Warfare 3 and Warzone were met with a new bundle featuring the B.E.A.S.T. Glove, inspired by King Kong's armament in the Godzilla x Kong movie. However, the $80 price tag attached to this themed accessory left many Call of Duty fans feeling underwhelmed.

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Kaii15d ago

Morons that allow themselves to be milked continuously by this company is the definition of irony.
Spend more $$ and you'll end up In easier lobbies so you win both ways when ya spend that cash

melons15d ago

Controversy in the COD community feels like it happens within an alternate timeline. Activision will take the piss with something, there will be a momentary fuss about it, and then they will forget about it and carry on anyway. Repeat this cycle literally every year for the rest of time.

Gridknac15d ago

They call that a crack head! Thats what this is really about, its an addiction. People who dont smoke cigarettes look and laugh at the addicts that spend $8-$10 a pack, but they cant help themselves, they are addicted. That same analogy applies perfectly to the whole MT industry. Only an addict that was not thinking clearly would spend this kind of money on something so frivolous. A round of multiplayer provides the same high a person gets from scratching a lotto ticket, or putting money on a sports bet. MT in general need to really be regulated because you have a generation of kids becoming adults who grew up only knowing the MT era of gaming. Its normal to them and they will in turn teach their kids the same by just being a gaming parent and getting their kids involved with them in gaming. Thats why no matter how ridiculous the headlines keep getting out of the MT industry, it never seems to fade or go away.

X-2314d ago

I'm so tired of hearing about what they're doing with this game, its never going to change and it's never going to value the consumer over money, furthermore the people who engage so heavily in the microtransactions I guess allegedly are having a blast and can't wait to do it some more this year when the new version of the game drops.

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Cheech And Chong Are Coming To Call Of Duty Because Everything Must Be Consumed

The famous comedy duo is the latest example of pop culture becoming one big grey blob

Christopher30d ago

Certain to have some sort of reference to their online store for CBD/THC chews, which is advertising heavily online the last month or two.

Sciurus_vulgaris29d ago

The randomness of the multiplayer characters is one of reason I quit playing COD after briefly returning in 2022. We got Space Marines, rappers, tree monsters etc. all in a series called “ Modern Warfare”.

OtterX29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I think if there was ever a time for a competitor to rise up and take away some of Call of Duty's thunder, the time would be now. A military shooter that takes itself seriously, not sold out to Fortnitism. Easier said than done, I know... but the time is ripe.

I can't stand this stuff either.

Palitera29d ago

There are tons of MP shooters that make no profit, if you're looking for one of those

fsfsxii29d ago

You guys have been saying this shit since 2009. Fortunately, nobody’s bringing down cod anytime soon, if ever.

crazyCoconuts29d ago

I agree. I really didn't like how the silliness takes away the gritty origins. That and all the crazy effects... dunno. I'm still playing it but I'd love for someone to steal their cheese and cater to grittier players

OtterX29d ago

@fsfsxii It's not so much wanting COD itself to die as it is wanting this silliness to die. Like CrazyCoconuts said, it takes from the grittiness. Many OG COD players want a straightup Military shooter experience, not silly costume time at Carnival.

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Profchaos29d ago

is this what the kids want these days a pair of iconic stoners who were big in the 70s and have kind of held on I enjoyed their movies decades ago but I never recall the movie where cheech infiltrates a enemy base while chong snipes for support guess I must of missed that one

Man I'm getting to old for this

Knightofelemia29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Cheech just looks so wrong in the picture.

Profchaos29d ago

Why just why. cod up in smoke

anast29d ago

They charge too much for a game that is kitsch.

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EA Hopes to Use Generative AI to Drive Monetization and Make Development 30% More Efficient

Today Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson provided a look into his ideas for the use of generative AI in the company's development processes.

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thorstein50d ago

I wonder what the next buzz word they'll slap in front of AI to make it sound exciting next? "Generative" as if it's creating its own content. Lol.

Cacabunga50d ago

EA is already dying a painful death..

peppeaccardo50d ago

i have a better idea .. why the whole exec team doesn't get replaced by chat bots ?

just_looken50d ago

Though i agree the ai thing is already in other forms of media there have been ai translations/scripts/voice over and even full ai commercials aired on tv. Ubisoft has created a ai game creator story/vo/music except the building of the game

The new unreal engine has auto terrain creation tools

In the world of greed in which it is winning without any major blow back ai is our future.

everyone want's biden dead on the mic or a criminal instead of a woman and now we are getting ai everything because no one will stop watching/playing ai created media.

GamerRN50d ago

Maybe they should just focus on making good games?

Just a thought...

Kiryu199249d ago

Exactly EA are just pure evil. When they are beating Bank of America to be voted the worst company to work for that’s saying a lot

Good thing I don’t buy their games day one and wait for deep deep sale years after launch (the select few games I am actually interested in)

Gaming is making so much money yet the greed of these companies is never ending

CEO’s and people on board making millions yet cutting jobs to those who are actually making the products

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Knightofelemia50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

EA is still a shady shitty company even with or without the help of Skynet. All they will use AI for is new ways to milk loot boxes and come up with the same sports title with a different year on the label. They are one company I truly do hate with a passion. They single handedly ruined some great franchise with their death touch. ME, Dead Space, Alice Returns, Dante's Inferno.

Stuart575650d ago

EA layoffs followed by 'Generative AI to Drive Monetization'

I knew it. Wonder what AI salary looks like? Nothing.

ChasterMies50d ago

I having a feeling that most of the layoffs in the industry are based on the idea that AI will do the same job for less.

DarXyde49d ago

Very likely, yes.

Made worse by the fact that the execs aren't changing their compensations.

My deepest fear at this point is that we are now in the capitalism endgame.

At this point, we really should just burn AI to the ground. Executives cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
How are those people expected to support families if everything gets automated?

Barlos50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

And take away creativity, and people's jobs as we've been seeing. Got it.

No thanks. I want my games created by people, not AI.

CobraKai50d ago

Exactly. If or when games start becoming more AI than people, im done with gaming. AI and companies like EA can suck donkey d***k.

just_looken50d ago

Though i agree remember this is no ps3/360 era were we got up to 3 games in one generation from on developer like gears/halo/bioware/sony/ms

The people today are pro esg/sweet baby for the most part AAA gaming is imploding right now.

We should be stepping back re evaluate everything as a whole this year xmen 97 written/directed by a woman that is nuts and its also being made by a group reshaping bodies to be less sexual like wtf. A dam famous cartoon from the 90's is being rebuilt with millions spent to be worse in everyway.

Gaming/movies/tv shows made today are worse than what we had 7years ago ai won't change this but that ai is also being made by these groups so either way we are screwed.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Eonjay49d ago

Don't be of afraid of women. Sexy characters in games and movies still exist. Got my Stellar Blade on preorder!!! Everything all the time doesn't need to be sexual...that's stupid, childish and dull.

Chocoburger50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

EA doesn't want to lose their title of worst gaming company ever, always trying their best to remain the champs!
What's sad is that they have so much potential to be a decent publisher.

SSX Tricky / SSX 3
Def Jam Vendetta / Fight for New York
NBA Street
NFL Steet
Mirror's Edge
Bad Company
Burnout 3 / 4 / 5

Remember when EA used to be awesome? It's all over with now. Unpolished, if not out-right broken games these days. Endless monetization and gambling in their sports games, and let's not forget wasting hours of your life trying to unlock characters or equipment using "surprise boxes!"

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