After all the mudslinging, EA now says that they do not expect Battlefield 3 to beat Modern Warfare 3 in sales.
It was never expected by me, Call Of Duty has a huge fanbase and i was never expecting them to just ditch the game. But with that said a lot of my buddies I met on Cod are going to pick up this title so I'm sure this game will sell very good. Can't wait till release date :) As a longtime Battlefield fan i think this game was long overdue.
“Just to be clear, the [Call of Duty] franchise did about 23 million units worldwide. We don’t expect to surpass them with this year’s Battlefield 3, just to be very clear.” LMAO, this makes EA look so stupid. How do you spend months talking smack about a game that you know you can't beat? It's like saying that Usain Bolt isn't really that fast...even though you KNOW he'd smoke you in any footrace.
Because talking smack gives them more sales. If you talk smack people will eventually start to listen and buy their product over the competitions.
^^Absolutely agree. EA looks even more dumb now because they need to use smack talk to get attention instead of letting the game speak for itself.
That's not dumb to admit the competition is going to win in sales. EA never said they were going to outsell COD, they said it will be a better game and that it will take a chunk out of COD's sales. The mission was never to outsell them even though that'd be great for them.
"That's not dumb to admit the competition is going to win in sales." It is after you talk crap about them for the past few months...but thats just my opinion. "They never said it would sell more they said it would be a better game." I personally don't see how you can determine which one of these games is better gameplaywise. Ones an arcade shooter and the other is a tactical one. Graphics and sound is a different story though...a battle that BF3 has already won on the PC from a technically perspective. Gameplaywise, they are incomparable IMO.
they said it would be a better game. It looks like it'll deliver on that.
All they've been saying is that their game is better, which it obviously is, but selling more is a different argument. I have friends that are buying cod JUST because other friends are only buying cod. It will be a social decision instead of quality.
How is that admitting 'defeat'? They're doing nothing but pointing out there's a hell of a lot of retards that support a different product.
Im sure much of the smack talk wasnt aimed at the game itself. but under neaith really it was more aimed to get activisions back up its been on going for ages.
@logicwins: could not agree more! typical EA, same sh!t last year with MoH. i liked the game and i wil like BF3 but come on EA STFU ur sounding so fkn stupid!
Logicwins, The only reason that MW3 will sell more is because It's still riding the bandwagon from cod4.
"I personally don't see how you can determine which one of these games is better gameplaywise. Ones an arcade shooter and the other is a tactical one." I couldn't disagree more with this line, as you can easily say when you compare any two games which is the better one, as it is your opinion. Lets compare Duke Nukem Forever with Fallout 3, obviously you can say that Fallout 3 is the better game, even tho they are somewhat different genre. And I also can say that clearly from all I have seen that Battlefield 3 is the better game when you compare it to Modern Warfare 3.
They used Call of Duty to get attention in the headlines and to get the attention of Call of Duty fans. They are also using Frostbite 2 nonsense to hype their game. We all know it's just an upgraded engine, not a brand new engine and that the PC graphics were always going to be jaw dropping regardless.
The main mission EA is trying to accomplish here is too take away from cod's fanbase to diminish cod's rep/fanbase and absorb them into their own franchise. At least thats how I see it.
If any side can be said to win then it wll be BF3 because quality > sales. There are a great many people for whom that simple thought is a mystery. You see it often. They are the real losers in this battle of ideas.
After the cowardly attack you did to me by trying to lecture me, then block me... I hate to say it, but I completely agree with your comment. Sales are going to be the last thing you should think about when it comes to this game. Also, if BF3 actually scores higher than MW3, and receives more awards, I guarantee you it will sell better in the long run.
I amazed you only have one bubble morgan. You are always pro sony, but I almost always agree with you and your posts are always well structured with a good arguement. Guess you've been targeted by a certain group of people. But while we haven't played either of the games ourselves, from the videos and information we've seen I have to strongly agree BF3 will be the better game by far, in terms of quality of course. We all know the sheep will flock to COD in the millions. Of course that's just subjective. I can't make an objective opinion until I have played both games.
i never thought i would agree with you. but i just did.
Call of Duty is pretty much the epitome of a loyal fanbase. I mean, the game has been the same thing for the past 4-5 years. It doesn't get anymore loyal than that. Battlefield 3 however, while not winning in terms of overall sales, will (most likely) win in terms of quality, experience, features, replay ability, awards, reviews, sound, graphics, etc.. EA and DICE have all the right in the world to downplay this franchise. Maybe if it makes a huge dent in it's sales and reputation, they might actually spend more time on one of the titles and make it worth playing. I'm sure everyone here would be perfectly fine waiting a couple years for a new Call of Duty, just so it can be somewhat different from it's predecessor. On a completely unrelated note; Dice, for the love of God, release Mirror's Edge 2 on the Frostbite 2 engine.
Mirrors Edge 2!!! who knows... maybe it'll be their next project? Besides supporting Bf3 that is.
It's not loyal, they just don't know any better, Cod attracted alot of new gamers. They think it's normal for a sequel to come out each year and they think it's the greatest thing going, simply because they just don't give other games a chance. I know people who only buy one game a year and it's COD.
Wow this is a suprise...not! (Said with Borat voice) It's funny, I stated this obvious fact in another article recently....only to be met with a TON of disagrees. Like I said before, I guess the truth hurts for some people. I, for one, like that it's not as popular as cod, so there's more hardcore players online than 10 year-olds yapping into my ears...
what's the problem with being accessible?? it's a style for play burnout is more accessible GT super mario galaxy 2 is accessible, 5 year old can enjoy it and it's the highest rated game in this generation of consoles and a masterpiece mgs is far more accessible than splinter cell chaos theory, yet both give outstanding experience in their certain aspects I don't understand people saying it's causal, yes call of duty appeals to both the very casual, and core, most pure thirsty core gamers out there, but does that means it's sucks because it's simple? absolutely not every developer should do what they do BEST to give us the best experience they can
Of course it not but it gone to be the better game.
And I assume you've already spent sufficient time with both games to make that determination right?
I watched alpha gameplay from the pc version and it plays like the battlefield games i love.
LOGICWINS, you're joking right? Ancient tech vs the latest in Frostbite and you're asking how someone can determine which will be better? That's like saying who is more likely to shoot you in the face while on a duck hunt: Obama or Cheney...we all know who is better with a gun.
Tech doesn't make it good. Look at Crysis 2. Game was pretty bad. Just because its technically better doesnt mean its a better game.
@Vortis Crysis and COD4 both came out in 2007. So by your logic, Crysis had much better multiplayer gameplay over COD4 simply because it had a better engine and tech.
"Ancient tech vs the latest in Frostbite and you're asking how someone can determine which will be better? " So better tech always means a better game/gaming experience?
"So better tech always means a better game/gaming experience?" in N4G...... yes, in reality no, hence crysis and gran turismo 5 is another good example.
/shurg I won't be purchasing MW3. I participated in the BF3 Alpha - which confirmed for me which game would be better. All CoD titles (thus far) have all played the same for the most part. If MW3 is sticking with the tried and true formula of previous CoD titles, yes, I've already made the decision in my mind. Battlefield 3.
there is enough room for both franchises to be successful
Notice how people respond to the smack talk comments and no where near as much to the ones praising both games equally? this shows EAs puplicity stunt worked but it does make them look stupid...
For sure. Both games are expected to sell well above 10 million. Any game that sells 10 million units is a huge success, with over $500 million in revenue.
As long as it does well enough in sales for them to continue producing these fine gems I'm all fine & dandy with it.
BF3 will never outsell any COD game. Not possible. That's reality at the moment. However we all know based n what has been shown and gameplay which is the better quality game.
Yes better quality in terms of graphics. but in terms of gameplay and replayabililty MW3 wins.
Based on what I have saw from both? BF3 looks to be the better game overall. The fact you can use vehicles/jets etc. Use structures as defense, offense wins out easy imo. MW3 is nothing more than a rehash of all other COD games with poor visuals and physics. You actually have a very hard time distinguishing the difference between MW2 and MW3...and that's sad. The ONLY thing Activision is claiming is 60fps. Really? Tell me how it beats out BF3 in game play? Aim Assist? Camping galore? Easy for a 7 year old to play? http://www.collegehumor.com... Replay ability? That is fully subjective. MW3 is a casual FPS game. That will definitively suit the young kids who play the game.
@ Death You being kind of a fanboy. Battlefield 3 doesn't really have that many major changes either. They added jets and there a huge graphical update.The enviroments will be less destructible :(. There are some little changes and new ablites to classes and other little things but that pretty much it. Now MW3 did change up their kill streak system and added alot of balance changes and new perks. Don't just blindly attack one game. Both games have aim assist. Both games have campers. I personally noticed battlefield has alot more snipers in their games so that leads to more camping. I play battlefield alot and i noticed a few immature people on there as well. So both games have their faults and both are gone to be good.
@Angelgirl18 does battlefield have aim assist? are you sure?never played bf2 but i'm sure Bad company didn't have it..
LMAO what are u lookin @ ? The destruction in BF3 is beautiful , the sound of the weapons all sound authentic , they completely changed the melee attack , and instead of just crouching down u can now crawl on the floor those are all huge upgrades all COD games same unrealistic gameplay !!
I hope all of you know that you're buying a 60 dollar expansion pack...
It will give CoD a run for its money. The reason CoD dominated was because it had no real competition over the past few years. It has now.
As long as I enjoy Battlefield more than Cod then EA wins in my book.
I just want them to hurt COD sales and hit Activision where it hurts. That would be good enough for me Anyway it's all about which game will be better and it's obviously going to be Battlefield 3
in slaes maybe its already won in terms of quality and gameplay it IS battlefield
Cool, you're lucky to get a copy of BOTH games so early to compare their gameplay. Oh jolly!, luck you!
Tell me, what distinguishes one CoD title from another? Nearly all of them offer identical gaming experiences from what I've seen. CoD4 looked and played like MW2 in my eyes. What will MW3 do to break the CoD mold? Judging from the footage I've seen? Nothing. MW3 will use the same formula that has rocketed the series into the stratosphere of popularity. Activision will not change ANYTHING until the sales start hurting.
COD4 plays different from MW2. Yes, the mechanic are similar and they should be in any sequel. COD4 was simplistic minded combat. There wasn't ridiculous killstreaks and unbalanced issues. MW3 is suppose to bring the series back to a COD feeling. I can't really debate your comment yet because I have yet to play it to experience it for myself.
lol yes because the alpha footage alone shows battlefield is much better than cod and the new videos of cod just look every other cod....if you deny thins you are a very close minded child
...Okay, besides killstreaks, what was so different in MW2? Honestly? I don't recall any major game changes that justified my $60 purchase. (Spec Ops mode was alright, but aside from that there wasn't much else that got me excited.) MW3 is supposed to bring the series back to a CoD feeling? When did the series lose the CoD feeling? Right after the release of CoD4? What's this "CoD feeling?" MW3 is still going to have a ton of killstreaks and balance issues - every CoD after WaW did.
MW3 will outdo black ops. Black ops' successor will not do as good as black ops it is destined to be doomed. Especially for the ps3 pc crowd ;) It was the worst cod in history.
Modern Warfare 3 won already in terms of gameplay,replayability and fun. Some people are "bored" of COD. They want something new...that's fine. But then there's people like me who still enjoy COD and will buy MW3 day 1. There's a formula to COD just like there's a formula to the Pokemon games. It's not broken so there's no need to fix it.
Man, that's some strong kool-aid. Where can I get me some?
You can get Kool-aid at your local super market I guess. Why are you asking me this? You high or something?
Then there's people like you that like to play the same game over and over again. CoD titles are overrated. They should change the gameplay engine. 7 years old is alot. Hell, I'm not even hating on CoD, I loved MW 2 and Blops, but it gets repetitive to always play the same thing with new maps and new guns. On the other hand, DICE/EA is taking a great step in the right direction. And they deserve to be on the spot they are right now. I always said... CoD is for kids, Battlefield is for real men. In the end... Activision will win once again. Due to it's fanbase. But one thing's for sure... Quality > Quantity. Battlefield = Quality.
Wait, so are you a kid or a real man? I can't figure it out. You said you loved MW2 and Black OPs but then you said COD is for kids and battlefield is for real men? Are you a man-boy? How about this, COD/BF are for gamers and real life soldiers are REAL MEN/HEROS. It's just so funny how people claim playing COD makes someone a kid while playing BF makes you a man? That makes no sense to me. One is a run and gun type of gameplay. The other is a squad based tactial team based game. I am 26 years old and married. I have a full-time job and own a home. I enjoy COD, does that make me a child? Christ, I'll throw a curve-ball at ya, I also enjoy battlefield too! So, should I call Ripley's Believe it or not for being half man/half boy?
overrated in your opinion I love both but CoD>BF cod is a bigger game, it's more than just MP got great sp more, spec ops, awesome soundtrack, story and characters
"Its not broken so there's no need to fix it", i don't know what kind of holy grail version you play, but i have had problems with both MW2 and Black ops, along with many other people. Give me a Call of Duty that doesn't suffer from mass amounts of glitches and easy exploits that ruin the very multiplayer that many praise
Both games have taken notes from each other and are implementing each others ideas a little in their next game, not to mention that the competition makes your game of choice better. Look at Madden, you don't want your shooter of choice to become madden. You need the game you hate so your favorite game can stay fresh. Wake up and smell the coffee little kids.
I well definitely buy this game for my PS3 I hope EA gives this game exclusives 1st like call of duty I'm tired of cod on xbox getting maps 1st
BF 1942. I tried the MP trial and its pretty fun.
It's 1943 not 1942.
Can Battlefield 3 beat COD in terms of sales? No. But it can beat it in several other fields. such as: -Overall experience -Higher review scores -Winning awards etc,etc..
Cod mw3 is a full package, plus u can't beat cod FUN and blazing 60fps action
Sales wise nothing can take down Call of Duty in one "attack". It has a HUGE fanbase! But eventually the fanbase can turn their attention to other games if other games keep bringing better quality products. Unfortunately Medal of Honnor didn't give the first blow to COD like EA planned...(get me in the BETA EA or i want my money back from that piece of sh!t) It seems like this year there will be a great market change with the ace that Dice have been working for so many years and with COD feeling a little to familiar... One thing is for sure, if Activision doesn't care enough to evolve and improve on COD in the coming years, they will probably destroy the power of their giant franchise by themselves(most of the Infinity Ward team left Activision and joined EA remmember?). Consumers shouldn't be taken for granded...
Well of course with all those so called gamers(fanboys who are mostly young kids)getting this game just bc it saids COD in front. True gamers know that BF3 will be better multiplayer hopefully a good story to, but cod is to much of an arcade shooter where u deal with campers, boosters, stupid people who misuse a sniper by tryin to quickscope...i will be buyin both because both are games that are fun to play...To all gamers(NOT FANBOYS)if u are a gamer and buy 1 of the titles try to rent the other one..i have smack ops(black ops) and BFBC2 and i like both even though ACTIVISION games are suckin due to activision not wantin dedicated servers and force us to deal with host migration, poor bullet connections and mess load of LAG