Mark Rubin, producer of Modern Warfare 3 told during a round table that the main focus of Multiplayer in MW3 was to discourage Camping which has lead to more verrticality of the Multiplayer Maps.
If they really wanted to discourage Camping it can be done by removing kill streaks, i know killstreaks are a big part of this game but we will have to find an alternative, sort of like they did with the Killstreaks that you get for doing objectives with the support package.
I don't think Killstreak will do much at all. I mean there are loads of other games before COD and now with no killstreaks and still suffer from campers. TBH I think a 3-5 second spawn shield would really limit spawn camping considering you won't die as soon as you pop up and at least have a chance to counter attack. Obviously could be an issue on extremely small maps (shipment small, but I think it can be done and help with the camping situation a whole lot.
While I agree that would help with spawn camping..camping and spawn camping are two different things and both can be a problem. That only limits one of the root problems.
It must just be me but when I start a match the last thing my instincts tell me to do is start sprinting around and blind firing. I usually have a buddy and we try to find a choke point and then proceed to try and win the round. I just don't understand why people feel that finding a good spot, working as a team with your mates is a bad thing. Constantly running is the epitome of ADD.
They should make it so that anyone who stays in the same area for more than a certain amount of time, say 15 seconds either dies or starts loosing XP. Now that will get rid of campers.
umm myst,search and destroy?? in order to defend the bomb most cod players camp it out bcuz obviously moving around and being the last guy aint as smart unless your gud at it.. just saying tho..
Kill Confirmed will definitely reduce Campers but only for that game mode. What about TDM?
yeah that gamemode looks fun. Reminds me of Crysis 2 how you have to pick up peoples Tags to get killstreaks in Crysis.
Make every area accessible from more than 2 ways. This way, no one will be hiding in the corner of a hallway.
They can still hide in the corner.
Its simple. In COD the person who gets seen first dies. That's what causes camping. Easy kills is the reason why COD is so popular. Adding 50% more health would eliminate camping. Because then you could take a hit, escape then go back and face your enemy. Like Halo. But then the abusive 10 year olds couldn't get kills and they would stop playing, which would hurt sales. Camping = COD Its here to stay.
Well, you know, Halo is Halo and CoD is CoD. Trying to make one game more like another is almost always a bad idea.
Noob. I cant wait to buy this game used.
Your actually pretty right about that. Just a a bit more health, making it a little more Headshot related and more recoil/less bullet damage would reduce camping a little. 50% more hp wouldnt entirely reduce camping.
What? By making opponents respawn behind you more than they did already?
If you stay in a 5x5 foot square for more then 15 seconds and get a kill on somebody within 10 feet, it shouldn't count. Enough said. I don't even get campers. When I run into them, I spawn and throw a grenade where they were, and usually get them too. You don't win camping on me, camp on me and I'll WRECK you! But if you're going to camp, you're not going to get anywhere near the kills you will running anyway, and I'll kill you when I come back so it doesn't hurt me much, but it is annoying letting kids who wouldn't get 1 kill normally get one because they sit in one damn place for it, it's pathetic and stupid... After reflecting, I have remembered....I am not buying this anyway so it doesn't hurt me! Have fun sheep, camping each other to death. I'll be flying jets in BF3 and arming MCom's. Bye! Have fun complaining COD players about you're "amazing game" which you don't even find fun either.
Easy way to stop caming is if you stay in the same spot for 30 seconds you instantly die. /s
All they have to do: - Give EVERY gun some kind of recoil or sway - Give people 10% more health As for level design, they cant do that because actual good snipers have to camp
Yes, that. They kill too fast. Give somebody good more time to react and there's no way even campers can win. Good post. :)
you make camping not seem as good in some aspects in some game modes but people will camp regardless if its a choke point in the map and they can control it whether it be by them selves or with 2 or 3 people they will camp their to get their k/d up more so in objective games seeing with extended time and that you know the other team will come to you. i think if cod wasnt such a k/d oriented game and that killstreaks were either gone or back to 3,5,7 we wouldnt see campers so rampant in the games. look at blops its like they promote camping with claymores,motion sensors, camera spikes. even if your equipment gets destroyed/ hacked since the game literally tells you(except when its hacked) you now someone is coming for you so you can "camp smart" by putting 2 and 2 together. camping and QS is just what makes cod, cod
HAH i seen camping on the live streams at cod XP
Comments made in the original source article show videos proving there will still be campers. http://tinyurl.com/3gc4tet Campers are a fact of life in MP games anymore and it even happens during PvP in MMOs all the time too, and don't even get me started on real-life paintball.
Make the map (buildings) destructible.. :d
COD gets blamed for camping now lol. Who plays BBC2, where everyone CAMPS by the crate in Rush and gets easy kills. I was playing CS years ago where if the bomb was dropped they CAMPED by it so if anyone went to collect it they were shot. Camping has been around for years, stop blaming COD for everything, it's becoming stupid now.
You can shoot out windows
Camping will never stop.
True, it is a play style that counters mindless rushers. You dont get campers because almost no one rushes around the map mindlessly and because buildings can get destroyed.(snipers dont count as campers. They snipe) If people stopped mindlessly rushing around the map then campers would get too few kills to make the style of play worth it. In short just stop running around the map like a chicken with its head cut off.
Like people said above, one major reason for camping is how little health everyone gets. Camping got so bad in CoD because of how easy it is. Once you start shooting someone, there's next to no chance of them being able to respond quickly enough. That's just how it is, I suppose.
Can't wait to set up my tent :)
Interesting.... Not that I'm saying they aren't trying, but you can't make someone play a certain way. The reason that CoD isn't the online game I play daily(I do play [email protected] still from time to time) is the community. So, them saying that they are trying to design the maps differently, plus that mode where you have to confirm the kill by grabbing their dog tags(I think?). Though I don't have any intention to buy it(mw3) at this moment, that doesn't that it's impossible for them to do something that will persuade me. Plenty of other games coming out. So I will wait and see what the community says after they have played it for a little while.
If they want to defeat camping, encourage more teamwork through their videos, add exp bonuses or elements that promote team based efforts (like what Battlefield did with spotting). The days of Quake are pretty much over and camping is unavoidable in any shooter but it is a sickness easily remedied by good old fashion teamwork which is actually more of the team's fault not the campers or developers.
If there's a corner, The unskilled will sit in it! Camping is now apart of ALL first person shooter games and the more popular FPS games has more campers because there's more people that play it.....
honestly, ppl who complain about camping are way more annoying than those that camp.
Dont forget the Heartbeat sensor and infrared scope- very overused in MW2.
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