IGN - A second circle pad might seem crazy, but it's actually a good thing - and critical to the system's future.
Was needed from launch. Second dumbest controller option since the renobs at Sony released the ps3 without rumble.
I don't think that was Sony's choice, they were in a legal situation were they not? Their PR spin that "rumble is last gen" was dumb, but what'd you expect Sony to say? Their hands were tied down The second analog stick is important if 3DS aims to emulate the Gamecube and not the N64. I don't mind games that don't use a second analog stick. In fact, I think that was the greatest thing about the DS and I hope to see more games on the 3DS and even the PSV that retain that simplicity from older consoles like the SNES. But this should have been included day one. Now if devs want to make games that require a second analog stick (because the tech is there) they have to use the motion or touch screen. The lack of this option was incredibly shortsighted
No it was Sony choice to not include rumble. They choose the sixaxis over the rumble and at the time the motion sensing technology interfered with the sixaxis also the cost of them both in the controller was too high. Later better vibration technology was developed that allowed them to incorporate both.
Wasn't "the Motion interferes with the rumble" a PR lie?
Alpha is right the lack of rumble on ps3 is due to legal battle with Immersion , who holds the patent on rumble . Sony had to pay nearly $90 million in damages while Nintendo and Microsoft bowed to paying royalty fees. As a result, Sony decided to just remove the rumble feature altogether .
You guys have it backwards. It was really a problem in the beginning but later the technology was there because Immersion developed better rumble. The battle between Sony/Immersion was a result of Sony not putting rumble into the ps3 controllers. Sony still denied that they wanted to add rumble due to the costs and they tried to knock rumble as last gen. Immersion wanted Sony to use rumble hence the development of the new technology and they tried and succeeded on getting Sony to reput rumble inside their controllers which stopped the legal battles.
@thehitman Having motion and rumble was available day one for the wii remote. The tech was there.
Read this... http://www.avsforum.com/avs...
Sony chose to fight it out in court instead of settling like MS did which is why we didn't have rumble. Seriously, that's one of the things that kinda pissed me off at first but eh, what was I to do. Ps3 games were still great.
Rumble is useless, I always have it turned off to save up battery anyway. =/
Same here. I feel it adds nothing to the game, and I can't even stand the sound of it. For me, saving battery is just a positive side effect! I don't mind the little bit of extra weight though.
I don't know man, personally I think rumble adds a lot to the game. Makes you feel like you're more immersed esp. in shooters.
That is a good question. Nintendo is having a identity crisis. They cannot seem to make up their mind on their decisions for the 3DS. They wanted 1 circle pad, now 2 and they're growing a tumor to add one? I am waiting for another attachment that adds Wii-U horsepower making the system thrice the thickness. Nintendo is...SMH
I say they need to scrap the 3DS, admit failure, and start again with a new name - maybe even bring back the Gameboy name - how awesome would that be? The problem with the 3DS from the start comes from Nintendo's own mistakes of releasing SO many different DS models. People still think the 3DS is just a DS with 3D and not an actual new continuation of the DS line. Then a $70 price drop less than 6 months after its release? Releasing at $250 to begin with? Then that and the 3D danger warning - nothing good could've come from the 3DS from the start. This add-on is a joke and if they really release this smh. Scrap it, build a new handheld to take on the Vita, and let's go.
I'd say the 3DS has a lot of potential the way it is. It's sad Nintendo is not accepting that and has to screw it up with this addon. Nintendo is pulling a SEGA Genesis with this one. A lot of 3DS fans loving the machine like myself are angry with this idea. If it comes to a moment that I am either required to buy this atrocious excuse for an accessory to continue playing future games or buy a revised model with one built in, I will refuse to buy the successor to the 3DS and just use my 3DS as a door stopper.
I'm honestly surprised Nintendo is struggling so much. It's seems the stage is set for SONY to swoop in. Seriously, if SONY doesn't take full advantage of the situation, they'll be loosing big time. This might be the first gen Nintendo actually looses a handheld "war." Especially with COD coming to Vita with full online capabilities (or so I've heard).
I appreciate that some people are trying to put a good spin on this, but its a pretty lame effort. If Nintendo had their heads on straight, they wouldn't have relied on the 3D gimmick to sell the system (and not the games), they wouldn't have overpriced it and they would have included a second circle pad at launch. Nothing has worked out well for Nintendo since the 3DS launched. I hope they can pick up some momentum but I don't see it happening this year.
This is the first time Nintendo has suffered by their handheld gaming device. Which personally I find surprising because i know most of us grew up with the gameboy handhelds (which were all amazing). Though I won't speak for the DS series, since I never actually owned one.
This should have been there from launch idk whats wrong with Nintendo I'm not buying a Nintendo console ever till they get their sh!t straight, I didn't buy they Wii and I'm not getting the WiiU. Nintendo is just successful because of all the casuals that buy their system.
They made the same mistake twice. The first mistake was the Wii motion plus and now this analog stick add-on? They should've had both from the beginning.
Next, Touch pad on the back.
it should have been on it, but i do think it could be extremely optionally like the classic controller it can be used but it isn't required
exactly. or i see it as more of a separation where some games will use it and some games will not. sort of like an add on similar to wii motion plus. some developers will base their games around it and others wont. i wouldn't be surprised if nintendo releases a 3ds later on with the second analog as standard.
3DS was launched to early + with no games, and hardly any good ones in near future, its even had a price cut They are now releasing an addon to have 2 sticks, I can bet you next year we will have revision including the 2 sticks This will be a blow to those who have bought a 3DS, this addon is a monstrosity Nintendo better had fix things quick, although vita won't be as big as 3DS in long run it will take many customers away if nintendo don't get it right
Good job nintendo BTW haters gonna hate
Why don't they just admit they've messed up... It would p*ss a lot of 3DS owners off but I'd rather see them release a true next gen handheld and say the 3DS is in the DS series. I know, I know highly unlikely but I'd rather have that then see this ugly crap on 3DS's
I love the 3ds. I had my doubts at first but after using it it blew me away. The games are far better looking than my ds or psp, the 3d is frigging amazing, and it has online that might work decently lol. The one thing that irks me is why wouldnt they add a second nub, it woul cost them like a dollar? Most games play fine without it because of the touchpad and one nub but still, they will limit what games will come without it. I do hope this means by Christmas we get a revision with 2 nubs, an addon for early adopters/option to use touch if not and move on.
it was suppose to fail and look what happened. The internet makes up a small number of gamers so what do we know? I cant wait to see how this turns out.
dude I can't believe I'm saying this, because I hate your avatar, but I completely agree with you. Bubble Up.
I still find it amazing that Nintendo, with all its experience and supposedly high quality and highly paid executives could have made the errors it has made with this console. The price, releasing it without any games or with features not finished, and know adding a hideous add-on for a feature that should have been included in the first place. At a time when the relevance of dedicated gaming handheld's is being questioned, this product and launch needed to be perfect. Instead, they have made seemingly simple errors that have made it quiet possibly the worst launch of a Nintendo product yet.
all i can say is lol
I'd consider it if it added extra battery to the 3ds. Based on it's shape and size... IT BETTER!
Miyamoto is human and makes mistakes, the guy makes great games.... but this mistake was moronic. Why would anyone release a control scheme with only one analog in 2011, especially if they wanted to capitalise on games made in previous gens that required 2 analogs. It was so short sighted.
I hate the hell out of that ugly add on, but I'm willing to bet it goes over well and really does wonders in Japan. Those guys love peripherals.
"It's certainly reasonable to use the touch pad as a fix for this dilemma. Using some sort of stylus can go a long way in simulating that second input. However doing that introduces limitations. Holding the system becomes awkward, and plenty of buttons become cut out of the equation. Sure, it's technically feasible, but when the Vita has a clear cut, more direct solution, the 3DS has a much smaller margin of error." I pretty much agree with them.
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