Battlefield 3 single-player: “We’d rather 6 hours of awesome than 12 hours of ‘meh’”

DICE have revealed the length of the single-player campaign in Battlefield 3 will be “slightly longer” than Modern Warfare 2′s – but they’d “rather have six hours of awesome than 12 hours of “meh”.

[Yi-Long]

... Battlefield is all about the MP! And that's going to be ultra-awesome!

[AllroundGamer]

couldn't agree more.

[Gazondaily]

I don't even think singleplayer when it comes to Battlefield 3. Not at all. Which might lead to a pleasant surprise if its really good.

Its all about the MP for me man. If it didn't have singleplayer I wouldn't even care.

But that's just me.

[pixelsword]

“We’d rather 6 hours of awesome than 12 hours of ‘meh’”

Assuming that the 6 hours are "awesome".

[sdtarm]

still is too short, 8 to 10 hours should be the established length for most games

[RedDead]

That is too short IF you're looking for Single player, me however...I don't give a f**k. Multiplayer goty

[Brosy]

I just hope they have large levels to free roam in Like Bad Company 1. It's just not as fun being funneled down a linear path. I hate to say it but they probably won't.

[Dee_91]

Yea i only play MP anyway
so it dont bother me
If I wanted the game for single player I would want way more than just 6hrs

[TAILWHIP]

yeah multiplayer will be awesome, but this is about the single player so how is this relevant? It's embarrassing they cant even put in a days work (average 8 hours) into a single player campaign claiming it will be "awesome". How can you drive an awesome story in 6 hours, at best it will be cut short with an abrupt ending or even worse a weak developed plot and characters to justify an 'awesome' single player experience. Awesome is 20 hours of Metal Gear Solid 4, so no excuses of six hours to attempt to impress single player fans.

[Kleptic]

dude I love MGS4 as much as anyone...but seriously...how did it take you 20 hours to play through that?...My very first go at it on the hardest setting available still was around 12 hours...and that was being just about as cautious as possible, and exploring EVERYTHING...

I don't really care either way...BF3 could have no single player campaign and i'd still be all over it...and while I do think 6 hours isn't quite long enough...its better than nothing i guess...

can't wait to see what reviewers say though...for some reason i'm assuming 6 hours in BF3 will be ok, where as earlier this year it was FAR from ok in killzone 3...

[gaden_malak]

How about 12 hours of awesome?

[DaTruth]

I'd rather have 12 hours of awesome, it wouldn't be the first time! Hell, I'd rather have 6 hours of meh, followed by 6 hours of awesome; I don't mind if a game/movie starts off slow!

Why the insinuation that it must be meh, if it's 12 hours?

[hiredhelp]

Whats with the disagrees to everyone liking the MP of battlefield 3.
?? oh i get it its call of duty. hey you got your game we gott ours!

[Bathyj]

I'd rather ten minutes of fellatio.

[gamingdroid]

Remember when everybody complained about 6-hour campaigns was too short, but all of a sudden it is overwhelmingly fine....

[SilentNegotiator]

And with the footage of the scripted moment of dragging an injured soldier that we've seen a million times, the slow movement across a roof-top, and the wasteland tank gameplay.....I have my doubts that the 6 hours (thanks for letting that cat out of the bag) will be "awesome"

BF3 SP footage has been looking as exciting as being forced to change your car's windshield fluid in a racing game, using a motion peripheral. After driving your virtual vehicle to the store to buy some.

@gamingdroid
So long as it's a big sexy over-advertised brand name! Plus, haters of a certain insanely popular series are willing to overlook any problems with the magical realistic modern warfare game that will "save" us from realistic modern warfare games.

[bakasora]

NO

[otherZinc]

I disagree.

This is why I'm not buying BF3. The should make it co-op through the campaign story 1st. 2nd, they need to concentrate on making a good Single Player game, something they've never done.

Single Player & campaign co-op are the main reasons I would buy a game like this.

[hassi94]

You do realise the majority of Battlefield games (not Bad company spinoffs) were multiplayer-only - it is a multiplayer game. They surprised most of the gaming community saying that there would be a proper campaign with a story in BF3.

[NarooN]

Most BF games have been MP only. Don't like it, leave. Go play CoD lol.

[chaldo]

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[rjdofu]

NarooN: COD campaign is rubbish.

[andyboy13]

That's like asking for a CS:S campaign, some games are just better as MP

[TheFirstClassic]

@Marked dude... that was seriously uncalled for.

[TheIneffableBob]

The Battlefield games have historically been nearly entirely multiplayer focused. They may have had short little scripted missions for when your Internet is down, but the series didn't have a story campaign until Bad Company 1.

If you want a big campaign, you're playing the wrong game.

[Kurt Russell]

I thought Marked hit the nail on the head. Too many easily offended bores on here.

[chaldo]

@Naroon

That didn't make sense.. He was talking about how BF3 should have a good campaign. What does COD got to do with this?

[kingdoms]

PS3 fanboys see COD and BF3 as console badges and or flags. He was offended that some one attacked PS3 by insulting BF3 due to PS3 fans falsely trying to paint BF3 as a PS3 prefered console of choice for battlefield. PS3 fans think BF3 is the COD of the 360 when it comes to identity and console association. Half of them try to own this game in the name of ps3 because the graphics are too good to let the 360 have the upper hand, they did this with Crysis 2.

[chaldo]

@kingdoms

Haha, they should get over it. and if people want a good campaign, play the uncharted games.

[iPad]

You can also have 12 hours of awesome.

[REALgamer]

For significantly longer development time and budget!

[subtenko]

Awesome vs. Meh!

Alright now I want a good clean fi- OMG awesome is beating the crap out meh!!!! oh sh** hey take it easy man I think he's had eno- OOOOoooo thats goin on facebook!

Agree or Disagree if you Agree or Disagree

[Lets-Game]

i dont know if you guys realize but bf3 has turned in what mw was at start.

a wise dude ones said, if a game is good it will get popular fast by itself if its not they will spend shitloads of cash on pruberhype machine zombiefy ppl into loving the game before release and only after playing it for a while they will realize it suck but some maybe be forever zombies.

as big fan of bf games except bc2 I will stay subjective until i play it.

[zero_cool]

Well gamers that like single player more deserve the same quality experience as the gamers that like multi player more. & Some people on here don't have to act like total douchebags!

[Zanarkand]

Lol at all the disagree fairies. Its true though multiplayer is where its at in the BF franchise.

[joab777]

I played bfbc2 campaing 1 time on easy for trophies and it had cool funny characters. It gets back to a point I made awhile ago, I wish companieslike dice and infinity ward would simply put 100% of their time and focus in mp, whether co-op modes or competitive and if someone wants to create a jaw dropping single player mixer military campaign put all their time and money into that. Im sure it affects sales somehow or how ppl percieve getting their moneys worth but it makes alot more sense.

[DeadlyFire]

SP mode is as expected. Nothing new learned here.

[jjohan35]

The Single player in battlefield games have always been average at best. The multiplayer has always been fun though.

[Nate-Dog]

What happened to the "12 hour" campaign mode then DICE? I'd rather 6 hours of awesome than 12 hours of meh too but don't claim the game has such a long SP in the first place when it's only half that length.

[Flavor]

I'd rather they had zero hours of 'meh' and just put all their resources into multiplayer. The campaign looks so tired and cliched, been done already and done better.
Maybe we wouldn't have to put up with a measly 24 players in the majority of game modes.

[Ju]

"Maybe we wouldn't have to put up with a measly 24 players in the majority of game modes."

Or maybe not. How's the SP related to the player count in MP exactly?

[vickers500]

"I'd rather they had zero hours of 'meh' and just put all their resources into multiplayer."

Agreed. The campaigns in the Bad Company games, while neat, shouldn't have been in there. They should have put more focus into what most people really want, the multiplayer. BC2 didn't had like what, 8 maps? I'd rather have them add like 4 or 5 new maps and a few vehicles/weapons/features than tack on an unnecessary single player campaign.

[opinska]

yeah this guys are trolling... they told they gonna make 12 hrs. single player campaign, and now it's gonna be 6? I bet EA cut half the game to release DLC's down the line...

[theflyindutchman]

wow indeed!
i know its all about the hardcore multiplayer and so on but it is strange to say the least that the SP lost 50% of its length in a few weeks!

[C_Menz]

Well SP is 6 hours and then Co-op is an entirely different story, so essentially the story between both will be 10-12+ hours.

Either way I don't see it as a big problem, BF3 is all about the MP and the SP is just there as a tutorial(at least in my eyes). I didn't even touch BC2's SP.

[FunkMcnasty]

I remember reading an article on N4G some time ago that touted a nice long SP campaign. I'm surprised to see a lot of people here are happy to hear that its a 6 hour campaign when many people complain about the short lengths of most SP campaigns these days...

[Kaos_Vll]

Didn't you know? They only care about these things when their preferred game is unaffected.

As soon as it does it no longer matters...

so funny reading these comments and looking up past post by these guys and the reversal of heart is sad...

[Organization XII]

here is the link, it says the campaign is 12 hours long

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[phantomexe]

I'd kind of like to know myself Nate. I look forward to the mutiplayer but if they said 10 hours of SP and lied then i'm kind of wondering what else they lied about. I read 10 to 12 SP

[iamnsuperman]

From DICE's track record of single player it should read six hours of meh and unlimited hours of mp goodness. We all know BF is a multiplayer game with the single player tagged on. It might change this year but they are one of those developers that haven't go the single player nailed but have got the multiplayer nailed.

[phantomexe]

I agree with ya man but they still lied about the SP.

[vTuro24]

So is it 6 hours or 12 hours?
He said it's slighty longer than MW3. How long is MW3?

Anyway I'd rather have 12 hours of awesome instead of 6.

[NuclearDuke]

I'd rather have all correct details on the table instead of hype and lies from DICE.

*Semi-Destruction* Buildings will only take partial damage. After one hundred playthroughs, you can level the battlefield to the ground.

*Long Single-Player campaign* We rather want 6 hours of awesome instead of bla. 12 hours bla.

*Battlefield 3 won't require Origin* Battlefield 3 will indeed require Origin.

What is the next lie DICE?

[StoneyYoshi]

i dont understand what they mean by after 100 play throughs you can level the battlefield.

[KNero]

but 12 is hours awesome and 6 is meh.... get it?

w/e that 6 hours of missing SP time will be added to my MP time

[WitWolfy]

I concur

[MidnytRain]

Why can't we have 12 hours of awesome?

[Fishy Fingers]

Probably be a long time after the game releases that I even get round to the SP. It'll probably take an internet outage to get me off MP or co-op anyway.

[Psychotica]

Rather they added offline multiplayer with bots than the campaign

[NarooN]

Having to render the entire Battlefield 2, 3, or 4 times at once would degrade the visuals to hell. Plus split-screen BF just isn't a good idea at all.

[bumnut]

I think he meant on PC. Earlier BF games campaigns were basically the same as multiplayer but with bots.

[Psychotica]

I was referring to playing alone against the PC.

[ladybug7]

this makes me happy i hate long campaign is realistic shooters with meh story lines

[Skate-AK]

Not a biggie it felt like a chore to finish Crysis 2.

[Miiikeyyy]

That game dragged. I thought I'd finished it and then suddenly there was hours more to go. I was ready to say fuck this shit and drop my controller XD

[Kurt Russell]

Me too, I found that game weak from the start. It was really slow paced.

Kicking cars into people online is the only part I loved.

[MSpence516]

I don't really have an opinion on this, but isn't this what the COD campaign's get criticized for? Although good, they were loathed for being too short.

[bumnut]

COD didn't start out as a multiplayer game though, it always had great single player campaigns, BF did not.

[JeffGUNZ]

@Bumnut.

Yeah, but since COD4, it was all about the MP. Yet, year after year, people on this site bash it for a short single player while BF is getting a free pass? My buddy has never played a single chapter in COD since COD4, it's all about the MP for him.

It's just so much hypocrisy on this site it's disgusting. The same people will bash COD for it's short campaign and then say that's perfect for BF. Funny thing is, COD said the same thing BF is saying in that they want to story to run itself and feel complete, not just stretch it along so you can get 10-12+ hours out of it. COD gets bashed yet it's a brilliant though for BF.

This site is becoming more and more of a joke every day.

[_LarZen_]

Im glad games aint 10 hours++ anymore, love games but it feels like a chore to finish some of them...most I dont even bother as it get so repetetive and boring I rather do the dishes.

[phantomexe]

IF you pay 60 bucks for a game you want more then 10 hours of play time for any game. If you think all games are repetive after 10 hours you need to stop gameing and start collecting ball cards or something.

[_LarZen_]

So a game has to last as long as possible regardles of story and content?

Dumbest I have read in a while...what are you a child?

And I wrote "some of them"...not to be mistaken for "all games" as your brain somehow made it out to be.

I have been gaming for 25 years now, started when I was 8. You could say I have seen it all...played it all and as it is today there is so much crap out there.

And as Dice say, "rather 6 hours of awesome than 12 hours of meh".

[phantomexe]

I'm 34 with 2 kids and know i read what you said right.

[scotchmouth]

Agreed with phantomexe. When you are plunking down the cash you want to get the most bang for your buck.

What kind of ADD causes 10+ hours of gaming to feel like a chore? Perhaps a different hobby is needed.

[ECM0NEY]

Shouldnt even have single player. Concentrate on making MP even more awesome!

[Convas]

Wow. So, let me get this straight, DICE is now saying that that the campaign is about 6 hours? They said that the Co-Op is 30% shorter, so that's what 4 hours?

Where are the folks who were bashing MW2 for it's 6 hour campaign? Suddenly, Multiplayer will make up for it? Suddenly, it's OK, because it's DICE?

I'm not pretending here, I'm disappointed. Not because I really care all that much about the campaign length persay, but because it's looking like they (EA/DICE) are really just a bunch of hypocrites now. Constantly going after IW, yet doing the same thing now.

If by some miracle the player count of MW3 multi has been upped to 32 players and has dedicated servers (GIGANTIC IF), the victor the war between MW3 and BF3 will not be as clean cut as it has the past few weeks, and there are going to be a lot of sour folks on this site.

[Rettom]

Lol they can't even add a tank, so how would they add 32 players? Or even 24?

[JeffGUNZ]

They choose not to add vehicles, they focus on infantry combat which is amazing. I personally do prefer vehicles in FPS. I don't know what IW has in store for MW3, we only have a few days to wait and see.

[Kaos_Vll]

@rettom

First, there were tanks in WaW.

Second, what makes you think the majority of FPS gamers WANT vehicles in their MP FPS's? I hated the maps in WaW that had tanks and dislike the BF series for the very same reason, though I love the rush and conquest modes.

Not to insult those that like them, but come on, it's a SHOOTER for crying out loud. How hard is it for you guys to aim a gun and get a kill or defend the base? Get out of the jet/chopper/tank and fire a damn rifle/pistol/smg.

How do you feel good because you beat a guy using an AR and you're using a tank? But hey, what do I know, I play FPS's to shoot guns...

[theflyindutchman]

i think they haven't got the time to finish the game.
so we can buy it later in form of DLC.

[GamerPS360]

yes, it is okay 'coz its Dice.

BF2 don't have single player at all and it is one of the best game to play :)

[JsonHenry]

I never played the single player in the Bad Company games. Hell, never played the single player in the CoD games for that matter. Bought them solely for Multiplayer.

[Yangus]

6 hours SP?
I think"little"short.. ..

[cannon8800]

Agreed, 10 hours would have been solid. but oh well I'm still playing it.

[WitWolfy]

Whats the bet that if you play it on hardcore it will be closer to 8-9 hours. But in all fairness i woudve been happy with 7 hours really, Ill just rush through the campaign to get to the MP anyways!

[Son_Lee]

Rolling the DICE with that one.

[Gazondaily]

Who is that in your pic Son_Lee? My mate and I have been discussing several different ways of impregnating her.

Oh nice pun btw. I see what you did there :)

[Son_Lee]

Hahaha I wanna impregnate her myself! Her name is Lights. She's this GREAT synth-pop artist. Not only is she hot, but her music is amazing! Check it out!

And also, I love me puns!! :D

Oh, I was waiting for someone to ask me who my pic was haha

[KonaBro]

I beat MW2 in literally 4 hours but that was some of the best 4 hours I spent in a FPS game on the SP. DICE realizes that keeping the game short and action-packed will garner more positive feedback than 12 hours of "set piece followed by slogging through filler levels just to make the game longer." That's how it felt for Crysis 2 and Medal of Honor.

[Saryk]

I guess it will depend on the value of the MP content versus the single player content. I also would love some co-op opportunities against bots with different types of matches also. I still play BFBC2 and in the back of my mind I wonder if I am playing with cheaters and that really kills the mood in MP.

[nilamo]

I really hate games that have 6 hours of non stop action. After playing COD for a while you just feel numb after all the constant action, i'd prefer some down time so I could appreciate the exciting moments a lot more.

[Jocosta]

I don't even know why anyone bothers to give games like this SP in the first damned place, most of the people I know just tear it open and jump into MP anyway, and rarely finish any SP campaign. They should just focus on MP, instead of having "tacked on" single player.

[phantomexe]

Wait WTF i read it was at least 10 hours now it's 6. There was crap posted about it. Wow yea i mean mutiplayer is still cool but yea thats a problem being i pitched the game to my wife saying it was 10 hours long months ago. She'll know she's not stupid.

[Kran]

MW2's campaign took me 12 hours. I dont get how people saw it so short. HOMEFRONT is short.

[Ju]

Glad we get R3 and UC3 for the SP. But 6 hours is a bit of a let down, no doubt about it. Question is, how much story can you create in a modern day military shooter. Flat as hell, anyway.

[Szarky]

I personally don't care as B:BC2 was the first game EVER for me to skip SP and go straight into MP and it felt so great. I'm getting so bored of most FPS stories in SP, they all feel pretty much the same after you've played a lot of them. Playing against humans is always more dynamic than AI.

[GamerPS360]

bubble :)

[artdafoo]

I recall a recent interview with DICE head honcho saying SP was roughly 10 hrs, not sure where the hell u foools are pulling 6 hrs out of and if even if it was it can't be any worse than Wack Ops's convoluted, Castro killing, acid flashback filled mess.

[e-p-ayeaH]

So its like CoD pretty much

[trenso1]

I think im one of the few that actually want bf3 sp and mp the story from the fault line trailer looked awesome and i cant wait to play the story. Ill finish that first and then move onto the multiplayer

[InTheLab]

When has Dice ever made 6 hours of awesome single player?

[GamerPS360]

I am lvl 50 on my BC2 but I have not even touched single player side yet.

[sielder]

Would definitly prefer the campaign to be longer but fingers crossed it is as awesome as they say it is.

[Dynasty2021]

Battlefield IS Multiplayer.

CoD was singleplayer and has turned into Multiplayer and has become popular as a result.

Battlefield has always been about the Multiplayer and has been superior forever.

Now they're trying singleplayer. I'd like a small singleplayer thrown on, it's nice, and I know DICE will do a great job like they did with the Bad Company series, but even they were all about the multiplayer.

So stop comparing CoD's transition to multiplayer to Battlefield's. CoD doesnt have a leg to stand on.

[iistuii]

Then maybe they should have made the game download only for £20 and be done with it. They can't just tack on a single player game and expect everything to be ok because of the multiplayer. They slag of COD for that and yet B3 is doing the exact same thing.

[CaptCalvin]

In that case drop it entirely and put offline bot practice back in!

[SYNTAXeRror]

Ugh, i buy battlefield for the longer sp campaign...i do enjoy mp..but to me, despite all this nay saying to COD, they certainly are following their formula.....

[RedDeadLB]

or like Bad Company 2's 6 hours of absolute "meh".. BC1's singleplayer was 10 times better.

[liquidhalos]

Forgive me but, id rather a 12 hour great single player than a 6 hour one

[ballsofsteel]

thats what people keeping telling me but most of the time even that 6 hours is mainly meh

[maxmill]

doesnt even need SP, its BF any real fan will tell you that

Same for COD

[darksied]

To be honest, this is fine with me. As I'm getting older (in my 30's now), I really don't have the time to put into a longer campaign unless it's a great RPG. But this is all dependent on whether the campaign is actually good or not; I'll wait on reviews to let me know about that. If not, I think I'll just jump right into the multiplayer. For those really, really complaining about this and hating DICE for having a "short" campaign ... if you're buying BF3 for it's campaign, and if it means that much to you, you're buying it for the wrong reason.

[SSKILLZ]

Whatever just give me the damn game already

[Huntmaster17]

Really who plays Battlefield for its single player campaign?

[StarWolf]

6 hours ? who the hell said they couldnt make 12 hours of fun . No one brought up a '12 hour meh' , if you cant make a 12 hour fun, then dont even bother. Send in those guys for more online mp maps. Its like saying you only lasted 20 seconds. then saying to the girl, 'better 20 seconds of fun instead of 15 minutes of meh' cmon bro, that aint gonna cut it.

[chrisgay]

THey might rather 6 hours of awesome, but based on previous Battlefields, I'd expect a very, VERY average singleplayer regardless of length.

[OMEGAXS1]

I usually forget theres a single player campaign. Then one day it pops in my head. Hey, why dont you try the single player campaign? OH DAMMMMMMMN!! I FORGOT!! Ha. Two days later, im still on multiplayer.

[Hazmat13]

really people i play mw2 storyline of days multiplayer 7 hours odds are im gonna play the fuck outta the storyline for BF3

[brish]

"rather have six hours of awesome than 12 hours of “meh”"

I'd rather have 12 hours of awesome than 6 hours of awesome!

[ndl1531]

sux that its that short but this game is multipayer heaven so its the only game that i dont really care for the single player campaign. battlefield is all about multipayer

[Dorwrath]

It's simple if you want to play the single player only, then rent it, do not buy it. Don't give DICE your hard earned money for a lame short assed campaign. I like shooter, but do not buy them anymore due to the short, half assed campaigns they have nowadays. I just rent or buy from bagin bin.

If developers want me to buy thier FPS games they have to have length and quality. $60 is a lot of money for 3, 4, 5 or 6 hour campaigns you can finish in less than a day.

[Morgue]

I played the first Bad Company but not the second. The third looks pretty tight but MP only holds my attention for so long then I get bored with it probably because I'm not a fan of " team based " games.

[fr00ty-wizenhymer]

And I'd rather 12 hours of awesome :\

[Bay]

12 hours of super awesome > 6 hours of awesome.

But, multiplayer will be 100+ of awesome.

[Kee]

Define "meh". Wait minute, don't do that. You're all now gonna give me a list of games that are "meh".

[freakdaddy37]

computers blow the 360 and ps3 away tuff 4 u gamers

[freakdaddy37]

still think a pc has btr graphics

[Miacosa]

That means it goes for buy to rent, thanks short games.

[hilyou]

then how come back in the ps2 age and before they used 2 hav like 25 hours of AWESOME all the time!

[unpuercofeo]

Or... you could try to be Half Life 2 and have 12 hours of awesome.

[Hassassin]

rather have 12 hours of awesome... and I will, in multiplayer.

[KendrickGLS]

I don't really care for the campaign in Battlefield 3 since it don't return the characters from Bad Company, but since I can't get online at my house, and I have to go to my aunt's house on the weekends to play online then I'm gonna have to rely on the campaign; eventhough I've always cared for single-player over multi-player in Battlefield games. I think I will take my pre-order off of Battlefield 3, and put it on Gears of War 3, but Gears 3 comes out in 3 weeks(which is the same day as Demi's new album! That's my baby girl!) so I don't have much time left. I'm still gonna get Battlefield 3, but not on pre-order, but not that it matters anyway. Righteous!

[Platinum_k]

Quality of Quantity... Makes sense! ^_^

[SugarSoSweet]

I agree with DICE

[pijinio212]

now thats some bullsh!t man...F U EA.. u just lost to mw3 to that odacity...

[BrianG]

Lets here it people, bash BF3 like you did KZ3 for being about 6 hours of varied action.

[DynDasE]

SP is a plus when I think about heavily Multi-player FPS... but the Bulletstorm's parody on MW2 is really true.

[SugarSoSweet]

I also like their honesty here just lik when they said the PC version looks better because the hardware in it is superior

[Chucky2003]

don't need it,i swear to myself that i won't ever buy a game that is 4hours long,because this is how long it will be,really?its like they are doing us a favor when they are saying that its better an awesome 6 hours of gameplay than 12 hours of "meh",why don't you make 12 fucking hours of awesomeness, instead coming with this lame excuse

[BLAKHOODe]

Nowadays, for me, it's difficult to keep interest in a long story cause I just don't have the time anymore to really allow myself to get sucked into a game. So 6 hours is fantastic for me. But to be honest, until this article, I never gave the game's SP a second's thought. It's all about the MP for me.

[Ace_Man_6]

So why don't they do 12 hours of awesome?

[KendrickGLS]

Chucky2003 is totally right. How would 12 hours have been "meh"? DICE just been getting lazy, but I still like them a lot, and I hope that Battlefield's awsome graphics, and gameplay can make up for it's short campaign.