After Carmack revealed the recommended installation size of the Xbox 360 version of RAGE ( 21-22GB! ), gamers wondered how big the mandatory install size would be for the PS3.
wow 8GB. So is this mandatory as in you must install it full right away or is it Mandatory like fallout 3 where it installs as it plays (with small install on start)?
Its not that bad. The 360 install is rumored to be around 20+ as it’s a really big game. Either way if this game lives up to the hype; 360 and PS3 fans should jump on it (if space permits).
Yea but the difference here is, The 360 20+GB install is completely optional and will never be needed in order to play the game. If you don't have 8GB left on your PS3, you ain't playing RAGE until you do.
The 360 install isn't mandatory. Changing disks is. I wonder what is going on with Rage that makes for such a large install though. The entire game on the 360 is close to 20G. How can a mandatory install be damn near half that?
How the hell is units and xPhearR3dx getting disagrees????
Correct me if I'm wrong but no game on the Xbox 360 requires a mandatory installation. If they did, then every Xbox 360 would ship with a hard drive.
The rage installation is OPTIONAL on the 360. It is NOT MANDATORY. The 20+ GB is just the total of all disc games. If for example you have 1 GB left on the 360 hard drive, you CAN play Rage without installing it. If however you have 1GB left on your PS3, you won't be able to play because the installation here is MANDATORY and an 8 GB or more space is required.
I want the game to perform its best. I give a shit what platform it's on. If an install is the way to go, install it is. So, pop in and play (while taking a performance hit) is better than installing 8GB, but multiple discs is ok?
The total size of the game isn't much different if at all on both platforms for those that keep mentioning the size of all 3 discs on the 360 version. PS3 often needs the whole game or part of the game installed as a requirement. Probably texture streaming off the HDD etc plus loading etc
my god...Borderland is just over 3GB the whole game compared to 20-22GB of RAGE! what is this monstrous thing packed in it? textures? uncompressed audio? Full HD fmv or something? that is just ridiculous!
Well John Carmack said that the game will be best in this order:
PC > 360 installed > PS3 > 360 uninstalled.
The game will run the same across the platforms but you you'll notice things on both that stick out better than the other. The PS3 has an 8gig mandatory but it'll run better than just the 360 version without the install, but if you are like me, I would install the whole damn file and allow the 360 version to run at it's best possible settings and then when you max your achievements, then delete the extra data.
On the install for PS3: The Bluray reads different than the DVD drive. It's slower so multiplat game devs do use the install to allow it to perform the best they can, and in this case it looks like it'll be amazing. 1st party devs have managed to get Uncharted 3 qualiry running with no install at all, but still... Rage looks phenomenal.
I'm wondering how many discs will the x360 version have? It's not like the data can be overly compressed to fit on 2 discs since it has to be able to play without an install. 2 DVDs would make the game pretty much unplayable from disc with the pop ins and such right?
Ontopic: 8 Gigs? Pretty much but I have plenty of space on my 250GB slim left. No worries for me.
I like how you say if you loose a disk on 360 you cant play it for a downfall, that makes no sense. If you loose the disk for ps3 you loose the entire game, instead of only 1/3, its actually better to loose just 1/3 a game, lol.
But really thats a lame reason anyways and not a drawback of either.
The problem with 360 instal is that it is the whole game and is huge 22 gb that alot of people dont have, but it is optional and will improve performance alot. You could instal all or just 1 disk at a time and change and play off the next disk and then instal after that session. But many will just play off the disk as not everyone has 22gb free, or even 9-10 gb for 1 disk.
Space is less of an issue with the PS3 instal, I delete stuff on both all the time anyways but the problem with the ps3 mandatory instal is that it is right away and you have to so it first before you play at all. I usually play a new game off the disk, then install on 360. Also, many of my ps3 games dont have any instal at all or they are alot smaller than this 8gb one. You pretty much cant bring this to a friends unless they are cool with waiting for something that isnt COD to install 8 gigs.
I will wait till the comparison sites compare the ps3 with the 8gigs installed to the 360 running off the disk(LOT etc). If its close at all either way I will play it on 360 with it installed.
I would rather just play on PC since I would be installing either console version anyways, but my PC is too old now.
Yeah I get what you mean. It is a pretty long time to wait for the install before being able to play but I don't think it's that bad. I usually put the game to install while putting the kids to bed brushing their teeth and all that. If there's NOTHING to do meanwhile it installs I usually let my anticipation grow and browze the little instructionsbooklet through while waiting. I really don't see where there's a problem with mandatory installs on PS3.
If you want to turn it around and say "well people always bash multiple discs on x360" I'm going to tell you that you must've misunderstood the problem with multidiscs. Ill tell you.
There are many games out there that devs will not put on multiple discs. Sportsgames for example or openworld like GTA. Those types of games are limited by the available space on DVD because they will not put them on multiple discs for obvious reasons. THAT'S the problem with x360 and it's DVD drive. That's what I've been telling atleast. On RPG or games like that multidisc is NO PROBLEM AT ALL. You'd have to be a fanboy to say so. Sure it might seem a little last gen with multidiscs but that does NOT limit certain games that they are multidisc. It's games like Tekken or SSF4 or racing games that get problems with multidisc.
1- 8GB is not that bad. Ps3's ship with large HDD's for a reason.
2- The 360 has a 22GB install. As Jac5al said: The 360 install may not be mandatory, but your 360 is going to sound like a jet engine if you don't. Which can shorten the life span of your DVD drive. + longer loading times.
3- You and easily delete stuff off of you Ps3 or upgrade you HDD.
wow 8GB. So is this mandatory as in you must install it full right away or is it Mandatory like fallout 3 where it installs as it plays (with small install on start)?