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Are the Microsoft Kinect and the PlayStation Move the Future of Gaming?

GameZone's Robert Workman wonders if the Kinect and Move are the future of gaming.

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Yardie4631d ago

I really think that sony will replace dualshock controllers with a controller similar to the ps move for the PS4. They will probably add another analog stick (for games that aren't controlled through motion), and hopefully add some kind of connection between the move and the nav (so it only takes up one bluetooth space).

Why o why4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

No, just a part of it. MS and sony are moving in slightly different directions. Sony announce 6 core 3 move whereas ms announce 6 kinect and 3 core if that. Kinect sells a crapload so ms go in harder. Sony hasn't been so aggressive or as successful but it doesnt need to be forced either. Move can be used as an alternative control method for some games NOT the only way to control some games like kinect. Its saddening that sales could decide where each head.

The future motion control is what each respective company wants it to be. My preference is core pad games.

My preferences wont all of a sudden change because ms, sony or nintendo change their focus because they caught a wiff of easy money and by that i mean focusing on the casuals who dont know their rpgs from an mmo. The ones who couldnt give a damn about custom engines or any form of technical excellence. Sorry, most n4g members are NOT that type..We do pad. We do core but we'll play it all with whatever mc device if its any good but that doesnt mean we prefer it over our main preferences.

darthv724631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

but a step in that direction. Full interactive entertainment at some point will be the future. We are talking holodeck stuff but that is a ways off.

HMD's (head mounted displays) coupled with motion control to give that full home VR effect is what is going to be next. Sony has demonstrated an HMD that should give the 3d effect quite nicely.

The key to really feeling like you are in the game and controlling it is total outside optical isolation. Closing off distractions from your view allows the brain (and eyes) to focus on what is being seen.

What both need to work on is some type of feedback system for your body to feel. Either in a vest or shirt that has the tactile feedback ability.

Gazondaily4631d ago

Now before you start spamming the disagree button, hear me out.

Yes the Move and Kinect leave a lot to be desired in terms of core games and the respective applicability of the latter devices but understand this, they might be a necessary step for the future of gaming.

Why? Because as gaming advances more and more in terms of complexity in depth, visuals, physics and general immersion, we need inputting methods that go beyond the draconian controller input or mouse/keyboard input we are so accustomed to.

When you think Virtual Reality, you don't think about holding a mouse and keyboard or a controller in your hand. No, you think of that nifty little visor and you slowly caressing the breasts of that midget elf female you always fantasised about. Okay, bad example but you get my point.

Kinect and its motion sensing tech, with the accuracy and feedback of the Move COMBINED with an immersive virtual reality medium is what the game industry giants should be aiming for in the future.

If this doesn't happen then the gaming industry and technology will stagnate and not evolve.

You know I speak the truth. For I am Septic. I am a disease. And you are the one infected. BRAP!! (That should be my sig).

lance424631d ago

I personally dislike motion controllers/ movement based peripherals. It has nothing to do with the games. I just like the feeling of a real controller as opposed to a wand.

Ron_Danger4631d ago

Man... People love phantom dissagreeing with you...
I agree with you though to some extent... I'm 27 so I'm used to playing with a controller or keyboard and mouse but the young kids that are just now starting gaming are using motion tech more so for them it might be the future

Gazondaily4631d ago

I know right?

People on n4g are just mean. I'm going out....

TheDivine4631d ago

I agree that its the future but not as it is now. I see kinect bieng a big part of the future but with a controller (imagine the 360 pad split into 2). That way developers would add little things here and there for immersion like throwing an elbow or grenade, talking to characters, or other little things to add to the game. It would be great in 3d also. Dont imagine little wii sport type games but if the witcher 2 or bf3 were built to use kinect w it. No mic in bf3 and you could see the person celebrating after they shot you or you could see their expression when you killed them. Theres so many ways to use it but it needs to be built in next gen (included in box). Ms needs to realize that yes kinect is awesome but not every game on it needs to be controller free, only sports and workout/dance games and maybe rpgs if they improve it to use fingers like a mouse in something like diablo 3. Use it to add to games, dont adapt games to use it. Theyre too interested in the you are the controller tagline, great for some games but not all games.

WhiteLightning4631d ago

They better not be....

There is nothing wrong with the controlers we have now, Microsoft is more likely to go down that road but Sony better not.

There has to be that one focused core console (for variety) and it looks like it will be the PS4 if Microsoft don't get their act together and stop pretending that every single core gamer "loves" Kinect.

I don't want to believe the "Kinect Controls" rumor for the PS4. You just can't beat a good old DS controler it's that plain and simple

ksense4631d ago

if this is the future then I hope the world ending in 2012 is true.

Micro_Sony4631d ago

Life has much more to offer than gaming.

Dont let your youth go to waste sitting on a couch.

Games are good but when played in moderation.

ClimateKaren4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

http://www.merriam-webster....

Seriously dude.

*edit*
Also @Micro_Sony,
Do you PM someone every time they make you look stupid? Please stop PMing me. You did it yesterday after I pointed out your hypocrisy
( http://n4g.com/news/823874/... ), and again today after I pointed out that the joke went completely above your head. Let this be the last time, there is no reason for us to be talking privately.

ksense4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

obviously I am exaggerating and being sarcastic but I do not like a future where it is going to seem like work waving your hands and legs around. just want to sit down and relax and have an enjoyable experience and while kinect and move may provide some enjoyable experiences it is not what I want the entire gaming experience to be in the future.

Why o why4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

@ micro_sony

I think what he's saying is that you know, he prefers pad gaming, core gaming you know like the stuff that made him jump into this gen

galgor4631d ago

No, both are gimmicks. Just like the keyboard & mouse, until something truly intuitive comes along we'll keep playing with what works best.

Anon19744631d ago

To early to tell. It's not the first time a company has taken a stab at motion gaming and failed, and even Nintendo, with the success of the Wii now seems to think having an Ipad as a controller is the way to go.

I think it's too early to tell. Neither Kinect nor Move have been on the market very long, and while Kinect enjoyed a nice spike at the start, who know's what's happening now. Last quarter MS suddenly clammed up about Kinect numbers which they had previously been shouting from rooftops and 360 sales were barely above what they were during the same period last year, prior to Kinect's launch. Sony hasn't really been forthcoming with specific Move numbers either.

When you consider how long motion gaming has been around, I don't think it's a sure thing. There have been games that used web-cams on PC for over a decade now, yet nothing really caught on. Why would we expect similar games to suddenly catch on now?

I know personally I'm not ready to ditch the gaming pad anytime soon.

gamingdroid4631d ago (Edited 4631d ago )

It's not common to comment on sales during the slowest time of the year.... What we do know is that Xbox 360 is selling the fastest it has ever been.

Instead of looking at abnormalities in the pattern, you should really compare them to the competition and the trend is up for Xbox 360 and down for both PS3 and Wii.

***There have been games that used web-cams on PC for over a decade now, yet nothing really caught on. Why would we expect similar games to suddenly catch on now?***

Because the technology has improved significantly where it is now usable.

Prior to the iPhone there were plenty of smart phones that failed, did that spell the demise of iPhones?

What about mp3 players prior to ipod?

Heck, what about tables prior to the iPad?

What about FPS games prior to Halo?

... or how consoles failed to dethrone PC for ages?

I could go on....

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Knightofelemia819d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog818d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69818d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming818d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79818d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember818d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog818d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop818d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic817d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop817d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic816d ago (Edited 816d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic817d ago (Edited 817d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10818d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar818d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10818d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell818d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10818d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72818d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming818d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog818d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming818d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming818d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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