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How can the PS Vita Succeed?

8bitfix says: I just read that Sony will be taking a 5000 Yen ($65/£40) loss on each Vita sold, not specifying if the numbers given were on the standard or 3G models. I started to ask myself, will the Vita even stand a chance, with the 3DS at $169, and not to mention six of the most anticipated titles of the year?

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rabidpancakeburglar4637d ago

It can succeed by slaying the competition and sitting on a throne of its styluses

Trunkz4637d ago

You failed to answer the "How" part.

I think the PS Vita will do fine, 3DS will probably sky rocket when big games come out like SSB or Pokemon 3DS.

rabidpancakeburglar4637d ago

The slaying part answered the how

LOGICWINS4637d ago

"How can the PS Vita Succeed?"

1. Drop the price by $50

2. Create a new Vita exclusive IP that can match the excitement of a Pokemon 3DS.

jaosobno4637d ago

Only thing in which 3DS was successful so far is bombing on the market. So leave skyrocketing PSV.

LOGICWINS4637d ago (Edited 4637d ago )

"Only thing in which 3DS was successful so far is bombing on the market. So leave skyrocketing PSV."

The DS is the best selling/most popular dedicated gaming platform of this generation. If the next iteration of the DS bombed at a $250 price point..can you explain how the lesser known Vita will "skyrocket" at $250?

Cyb3r4637d ago

I agree with you there arent any killer apps on 3DS yet apart from Zelda Ocarina of Time but Im sure when there are more big games thats when 3DS will sky rocket

firemassacre4637d ago

How can the PS Vita Succeed?

release it

Knushwood Butt4637d ago

I just read that aliens have been here for hundreds of years and are living among us UNDETECTED.

jaosobno4637d ago (Edited 4637d ago )

@LOGICWINS, yeah I can explain. For 250$ Nintendo offers poor hardware, poor online support, 400 × 240 display, pre PS2 graphics (check out MGS Snake Eater comparison), vomit inducing 3D effect using parallax barrier (proven worst possible technology for displaying glassless 3D), and ports galore of ancient titles from PS2 and N64 era.

PSV (for the same amount of money) offers quad core CPU, quad core GPU, stellar graphics, AAA titles, great online functionality, crossplay for PS3, dual analogs, front&back touchscreens, OLED 960 x 544 display, trophy support and so on.

LOGICWINS4637d ago

^^Ah, so your assuming that the technologically superior console with more varied features will be the one that most people go for.

How did that theory work out for DS vs. PSP?

Did that theory also apply to Wii vs. PS3/360?

Micro_Sony4637d ago

How can the Vita survive? Bring Professor Layton to the Vita and its game on.

tiffac4637d ago (Edited 4637d ago )

The reason the DS beat the PSP this gen because the DS gave the gamers a different experience.

And as it looks like right now the shoe seems to be on the other foot with the 3DS and the PSV.

We'll just have to see if that will equal to sales for Sony.

MaxXAttaxX4637d ago (Edited 4637d ago )

You make no sense.
You want, like you said, a "technologically superior console with more varied features" to be under-priced before it's even released?
People may not necessarily be drawn to the more technologically superior system as much as the cheaper system, but that's just how it is. The technology difference will almost always be priced higher.

See: PS3/360 vs Wii, as an example.

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@ Article,

Here's how:
GAMES and marketing!

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Blaze9294637d ago

well first I assume, and I just ASSUME...that it needs to come out, you know - release.

Thatguy-3104637d ago

All I have to say is COD on the go!!!! Gamers will eat that up as soon as iys release and since vita has the analogs sticks no gamers will hold back..all we can do is wait and see but that's my prediction.

extermin8or4637d ago

You know the thing is I don't care- and unless you work for sony you shouldn't either really. I know I intend to buy it day one. I know I'm looking forward to many of the announced games for it whether they are launch titles or not and past that idc wether the 3DS sells more or not....

LOGICWINS4637d ago

"You know the thing is I don't care- and unless you work for sony you shouldn't either really. I know I intend to buy it day one."

The more Vita sells, the more developers take notice. The more developers take notice, the more developers will be interested in Vita. The more devs interested in Vita, the greater the variety of games Vita owners have to play.

After what has happened to Megaman Legends 3 and Shenmue 3, any informed gamer would be foolish to entirely have no interest in how well their console of choice performs commercially.

extermin8or4637d ago (Edited 4637d ago )

Nope as long as it sells enough to get noticed it doesn't matter-this is specifically about how it will sell compared tot he 3DS.... so I don't care how it performs compared to another console that is targeted at a different area of the market....

VampiricDragon4637d ago

The same way the psp succeeded. Exclusives

buffycrp4637d ago (Edited 4637d ago )

Psp succeeded due to hackability not exclusives don't care what u say.

LOGICWINS4637d ago (Edited 4637d ago )

THIS

Also, the few PSP titles that were worth a damn will be on the PS3 shorty(GOW: Origins, Peace Walker)

That Resistance game was pretty cool though.

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SilleGamer4637d ago

I really hope that Sony's PS Vita succeeds.

If only to prevent titles such as Angry Birds dominating the charts in place of deserving titles such as Uncharted: Golden Abyss.

wumster4637d ago

It will succeed. No one knows how it will do initially, but it will succeed.

Some people will be turned off by the $250 price tag because they fail to realize what technology is in it.

Rainstorm814637d ago

I dont think gamers will be turned off.....The 3DS wasnt successful at that price point because it visually resembled the DS with only a 3d upgrade although it is more powerful...... The PSV is an all new beast in comparison to the PSP.....

Market confusion wont exist, besides 250$ is a steal when most thought it would be 400+

The PSP biggest failure in its attempt to make a home console portable was the absence of dual analog controls.......PSV problem solved

wumster4637d ago

@Raiinstorm81

Gamer will not be, but if you don't have a job and you depend on your parents to buy things, that price point in this economy will make them think twice.

I have a nephew that I buy for so I am telling you, I will think twice before I buy him one at that price point.

xAlmostPro4637d ago

It will succeed. I mean Every PS3 sold made a loss to begin with, now they earn on each one. Sony will most likely stick to the original PSV price point for awhile maybe even when it's cheaper to create just to bring in a bit of money.

Then they'll earn from the exclusive games and what not :)

WooHooAlex4637d ago

Market the crap out of the fact that it has dual analog sticks and Call of Duty. That will be enough to win over a lot of gamers.

badz1494637d ago

CoD = WIN! Why Sony don't push it as a release title is beyond me.

clrlite4637d ago

Yes, I will continue to say this as well. Marketing and games. Sony you have to market and advertise this device properly.

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PlayStation Vita Issues Have Tarnished the Legacy of an Otherwise Great System

The Vita is a well-designed system, albeit one that Sony left for dead as soon as it hit its first bump in the road. If it weren't for a couple negative quirks, it might have even been one of the best handhelds ever made. Unfortunately, those quirks have turned into awful problems as of late, and have only served to tarnish the legacy of what has otherwise been an excellent cult system.

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lptmg2423d ago

I like the Vita a lot. I actually blame Sony in putting less faith in it than it should

Prince_TFK2422d ago

I love my Vita. Fantastic system. The screen totally destroy the 3DS. Too bad that Sony drop the support as soon as the sale slow down.

I wonder what would had happened if they had used SD card instead of that expensive card.

PhoenixUp2423d ago

I'll always find it hilarious how even when Sony seemingly abandoned their second handheld, Vita still outsold Wii U which was heavily supported by Nintendo.

Never underestimate the power that third party support can do for a platform.

freshslicepizza2422d ago

Which cleary shows why it's good to have a nice balance between the two. Sony knows this but some of their fans seem to only want to talk about exclusives.

Prince_TFK2422d ago

I thought it is all about exclusive here on n4g? So third party is only important as long as we don't talk about Xbox? Oh the amount of spin.

rainslacker2422d ago

Sony had 3rd party support, and still has it to this day on the Vita. IN fact, it's about all they have. They even had some pretty good 1st party support in the first few years.

But no one would give them credit for that support, and "vita has no games" was the constant mantra being spewed on every vita article until Sony finally dropped all its meaningful support for the system.

Games are what sells a system. Doesn't matter if they're multi-plat or exclusive. Sony had a lot of both, they just failed to get more of the really big exclusives like they got with the PSP. PSP didn't really take off until they started getting things like Metal Gear or GT. When they looked like they were finally going that path, they pretty much gave up on it, and it's kind of sad, because it's a great system.

chris2352422d ago

got the vita although it was dead on arrival. mobile gaming on dedicated machines is deadder than dead. oh wait, the switch is doing stellar, even rivaling the ps4, the xbox and the new xoxbox. ok, let's forget for one second about the absolute market dominator: when was the last time you saw someone playing his or her dedicated machine outside? I can't really remember. what I'm seeing everyday though is that everybody and their little daughter got smartphones when they are on their way to go somewhere.

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thatguyhayat2422d ago

Vita was and still amazing. Playing uncharted and gravity rush on it was simply epic. Such a shame Sony gave up on it

InTheLab2422d ago

Was...perhaps. still? Those games came out years ago. The vita is a terrible handheld that Sony pushed out with Insanely overpriced memory cards and a handful of games. It was amazing for maybe a year then reality set in.

Sony only cares about the home console. Vita, PSP, Move, and now the PSVR all rely on 3rd party support after Sony pushes them out the door.

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Top 5 Best Cancelled PS Vita Games of All Time

Are you a huge PS Vita fan? If the answer is yes, and you absolutely adore your Playstation Vita then this video is going to be tough for you. The VitaBoys count down the top 5 best PS Vita games that got cancelled.

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PS Vita 2 Will Be Better Than Switch

The PlayStation Vita is such an underrated handheld device that it's almost sickening on how it just disappeared in the hands of gamers. And even though the Vita vanished off the face of the earth, this does not mean that a next gen Vita isn't welcomed. If another iteration of the PS Vita does come to be, than this could spell disaster for the Nintendo Switch.

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naruga2590d ago (Edited 2590d ago )

i m calling it now...No Monster Hunter 5 No portable console for me .....if Vita 2 is to be released with games like 'portable"Uncharted&a mp;a mp;q uot; , portable "Horizon", portable Assasin Creed , is Hell NO ...portable consoles need proprietary games (ex Splatoon Monster Hunter, Gravity Rush ..games that can be played portbale) and not degraded versions of home console games (huge mistake from Sony to support Vita with Uncharted and Killzone (two mediocre appeal IPs that could only be enjoyed on pS3 because their graphical superiority) and most importantly Vita died because its main life source MHou series was stolen/went Nintendo exclusive ...

Kaneki-Ken2588d ago

Ignorance at it finest. Vita died because no one bought it and the games. The reason that no one bought it and it was because the pricey Memory Card.

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princejb1342588d ago

One of the many reasons. My reason was because I just don't game while traveling

fiveby92588d ago

I agree the pricey memory cards really diminished the sales of the Vita. I recently read that one of teh reasons Sony stuck with their pricey card rather than standard SD cards had something to do with concerns over piracy of games. One would have thought cheap standard cards would open up software sales on the PS Store. But oddly piracy was some major concern. Regardless, I'd like to see a new handheld from Sony.

The 10th Rider2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

But the 3DS floundered at first and had comparable sales, however it's now a success. I think the Vita was less salvageable due to the memory card costs. On top of that, Nintendo moved development to the 3DS, resulting in great 3DS support but poor Wii U support, and Sony moved development away from the Vita, resulting in poor Vita support but great PS4 support. On top of that, Vita was clearly the more powerful device, which is great, but games with a higher visual fidelity take more time and money to develop, making it far easier for Nintendo to turn around and get games out than it would be for Sony.

The big reason I think we won't see another Vita is because Sony would have to split their development teams between PS4 and their handheld, and it would be even more powerful leading to increased dev times and cost. It may be possible to make a handheld that plays the same games as a console (in 720p) if consoles go native 4K next gen, especially if it released a few years after the home console. Other than that I don't see Sony making another handheld that pushes power. (Maybe something different that's affordable, portable, versatile, and doesn't push power though.)

freshslicepizza2588d ago

sony is about tradition, they will come out with another handheld. they invest quite a bit into in-house studios and want more than just the ps4 to sell their ip's on.

nveenio2588d ago

I don't think Sony wants a new Vita. I think they want to get Playstation Now ready on all mobile devices. Then people can play whatever whenever and Sony doesn't have to worry about the hardware headaches or being first to market or anything like that.

Erik73572588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

Nintendo had better games on the 3DS , hence why third party sucks. Who wanted the shitty assassin game on vita?

zb1ftw7772588d ago

By saying no one bought the vita and it's games, you essentially agreed with everything naruga wrote.

He literally listed the best games on the vita and then explained why no one bought them.

Funny how two people say the same thing, but word them differently and obtain different levels of likes.

toyzombie2588d ago

I kinda disagree.... They had to release the Vita at the correct price. We've already seen what happens when something is priced to high. Lets say they would have released the PS Vita at $350 with an internal 64GB of storage. People would have lost their minds because its $350. People just arent willing to spend a high dollar amount for a high quality portable device due to cell phones.

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conanlifts2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

Uncharted is a mediocre ip? Have you even played the game?

xMANB3ARP1G2587d ago (Edited 2587d ago )

the memory prices would have been forgotten and went down if monster hunter and some other games came to it the PSP memory card prices were way worse than the vitas at release. I never understand when people want the newest and greatest up till it comes time to pay. Sometimes new things cost money sucks but it is a fact of life. uncharted wasn't bad and resistance was sick but overall they misfired on this one would of loved one now built with ps4 in mind and a real mobile connection that can be used with your current plan and plan data limits for like a 10 buck a month fee better quality stick and hopefully sd card support but it would still need stuff like monster hunter Patapon LocoRoco wipeout and final fantasy games. unfortunately mobile games ruined handhelds to many ppl are ok with the garbage mobile games anymore and its a tough sale for a handheld and a handheld game now there will always be ppl like me who love portables but now with everyone owning a cell phone and every dev having at least 1 cell phone game of all various quality its hard to sell a buck cell phone game much less a full priced handheld game.

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EddieNX 2589d ago

There is no PS Vita 2 lol so good luck with that. PS Vita had way worse games than the WiiU and was a disaster outside of Japan.

Kaneki-Ken2588d ago

Good Luck with the Switch having no 3rd party support from Big Publishers after Skyrim releases. After Zelda hype dies off, no a lot of people going to buy a Switch for a port Mario Kart games and Indie, a sequel that doesn't feel like a sequel *cough* Splatoon 2*cough*. And the puchies game that doesn't seem nothing new and The only good exclusive is coming out in the fall, Mario.

EddieNX 2588d ago

I was just playing Splatoon 2 before on the global test fire and I can confirm now that its fantastic, an iteration sequel like COD but its gunna be worth owning a Switch for the amount of hours you can sink into its sensationaly addictive multiplayer. Mario kart is a perfect game 10/10 the only thing wrong was balloon battle and they've fixed it made it 1080p and portable you can play multiplayer anywhere, fantastic, can't wait.

Mario Odyssey is gunna be epic, so is Xenoblade chronicles 2 and Fire emblem. Fire emblem warriors and Arms will both be great, there's a TON of amazing indie games and other games already announced, god knows what they're going to show us at e3.

Honestly, Switch is turning into my favorite ever console. The portable nature of it is amazing. Im so excited about the future of Switch and I really feel sorry for people who are going to miss out on the games I've listed above. I have an XB1S and will be getting a Scorpio as well, so I won't be missing out on any third party games. But I'll also have the ultimate portable/ hybrid console with Nintendos truly amazing games

conanlifts2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

"The only good exclusive is coming out in the fall, Mario"

So you think xenoblade 2 is not a good exclusive?

Prince_TFK2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

Kaneki-Ken

You seem to forget that Nintendo has many unannounced games that is coming such as Pokemon star, monster hunter, fire emblems...on top of that E3 is coming and who know what Nintendo has up their sleeves.

But yeah...keep putting your fanboy google on and keep on hating Nintendo, while i keep on enjoying their games.

V0LT2587d ago

I think your crystal ball has been hacked. You couldn't be any more wrong.

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PhoenixUp2589d ago

Switch has Dragon Quest XI

The next potential PlayStation handheld will not.

That alone spells which will be more successful

Platformgamer2587d ago

Ps4 also has DQ XI and sony could do a cross-platform thing with a potential psvita2 so...

_-EDMIX-_2587d ago

I don't know how you came to such a strange conclusion.

The likeliness is statistically if Sony does release another PlayStation Portable it's going to be what the PlayStation 4 is in regards to strength or near it.

PhoenixUp2587d ago

If Sony couldn't get DQIX for PSP, I doubt they could get DQXI for a future handheld

Miguelitons2588d ago

There will be no PS Vita 2, that's just it!

InahimeHondaSengoku2588d ago

I love how you are always right. :-)

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