Big Microsoft first-party title canceled, high-up exec on the way out

1up Yours this week (11/09/07) mentions a couple of "hot rumors" near the end of the podcast. Here are the transcripts from the relevant segments in the podcast:

Shane: I won't go into exacting detail because these rumors haven't been confirmed but they're definitely swirling around. They're probably gonna break next week. So a preview of what you may be seeing next week. A big Microsoft first-party title that has been in the works for a very long time that people are very excited for, sounds like it's being canceled. And a Microsoft executive who's pretty high up, who's been a voice for the company, sounds like he's on the way out. (1:58:11-1:58:37)

Simon: How solid are these rumors? (1:58:46-1:58:48)

Shane: I would give these rumors like a 97-percent chance. (1:58:50-1:58:55)

Notes:
• The voices are host/EGM editor Shane Bettenhausen, 1UP Network VP of Content Simon Cox, and Jane Pinckard of GameGirlAdvance.
• The source link downloads a one-minute MP3 file, which is cut from the original podcast and contains only the relevant segment.
• For the full podcast, please see first alternative source.

[me_p]

my money on Alan Wake....

[PimpHandHappy]

is out

and who ever the suit is that is leaving doesnt matter. They will fill that spot in no time

[Gamespot-equals-EGM]

Halo 3 has been cancelled. That's going to hurt MS big time.

j/k, yeah i agree its probably Alan Wake, although I never really understood why people were excited about it to begin with.

[MK_Red]

Huxley is not much of a first party game. It's a PC game that is also being ported to 360. Also, it just got into second beta phase few days ago so I don't think it's the one.

The article/podcast says the game "Has been in works for a VERY long time" long dev time in games is more than 5 years and the Too Human was in the list of most delayed / in works games of all time so I think it's TH.
Too Human was once a N64, PSone and even GameCube game and on every one of those generation / consoles, it has was canceled once...
IF I remember correctly, in of the recent previews of Too Human (Pro-G?) they said that the game was not ready when it was showed 2 years ago at E3 and the previewer believed that it's still not ready even for a quick showing.

As for Alan Wake and why people like it, It's because it's a freaking Remedy game. The team that made the superb AAA Max Payne games and was praised by many during E3 and other showings.

[ruibing]

I agree that its Alan Wake.

[Evil0Angel]

agree with every single word you said.
respect man

[TheSadTruth]

It's Banjo Kazooie 3

I have a friend of a friend, whose cousin works at Microsoft, who got the details directly from RARE. You didn't hear this from me

[Sean14233]

I think your right. That title has been one I have wanted more info in since I purchased my 360 at Launch in Nov 05, yet nothing ever gets announced about it, 2 E3's later still no news. I bet this is the one.

[Leathersoup]

After playing Max Payne I was really looking forward to Alan Wake. :(

[ktchong]

The official site was there a while ago, and now it's gone! Now the link redirects to the main page.

http://www.banjo-kazooie.co...

[InMyOpinion]

Sounds most probable. Alan Wake, Too human and Fable 2 are too far into the development process and we've seen demos and trailers from all of them.

Banjo Threeie on the other hand has never been shown to public more than that it made an appearance in one of MS trailers at a gameshow(was it last E3?). Too bad cause the 360 really needs a platformer and Rare knows how to do them well.

[TheSadTruth]

Rare is such a joke these days. They are the company that single handedly saved the SNES and made the n64 the greatest multiplayer console in the history of gaming. What have they done since then? Viva Pinata, PDZ, Kameo and that's it. What a f***ing disappointment -_-.

[Gamespot-equals-EGM]

Rare is like the girl who used to be ultra hot but now is just a scrub. You see her 10 years later and she's all wrinkly from being out in the sun too much and out of shape from eating to much and being lazy.

[EDMIX]

WTF? its not Alan Wake MS does not own the IP, Remedy does, its a 3rd party dev, like Epic and Gears. Its not Banjo either, they said in development for a long time, AAA, and a lot of people are excited for. My beats are on Fable, cause they showed this game at E3 2006, and then after that Nothing. Its not Too Human either Silcan Knights owns the IP, where do you noobs here this crap from? Alan Wake?

[tplarkin7]

You're assuming that "first party" was the text book definition. You may be right, but the leaker/mole may not have used the most accurate term.

[sanderFVCKINcohen]

Your retarded....it is not Fable2, because they just finished there diary#3...if you had a 360 you would know that, and by that, it shows they are still strongly in developeing Fable2. Nor is it Alan Wake, you goofs: http://n4g.com/News-82334.a...

It is also not Banjo Kazooie3, because that is just ridiculouse for Rare not to make it...because they have something to prove. The only game that I will see as a first-party developer being canceled under Microsfot Games Studios IS.....drumrolllsss.....HALO WARS. Thats RIGHT...maybe its for financial reasons, or they need more workers on another certain game...like Fable2 or Peter Molyneux's other project known as the "Dimitri Project"(which is B.C., not canceled, just suspended).

[karlostomy]

errrm... you're kidding right?

cancel a HALO game on the 360? The mere mention of the 'H' word in the 360 community equals guaranteed sales.
WHy on earth would MGS cancel guaranteed sales?

nuh-uh.

[Jack Bauer]

lame, prolly gonna be alan wake...

[InMyOpinion]

You just want it to be =)

[ShiftyLookingCow]

Alan Wake is owned by Remedy(MS only has publishing rights like Mass Effect, unlike Halo and Gears of War) so it isn't exactly first party.

from Alan Wake forums(see comment by mod):
http://www.alanwake.com/for...

[gamermoney1985]

i think its too human it has to be cause it is the only game from ms that every time u look around something else is goining wrong, beside alan wake site was just updated why would they up date there site just to canle the game.

[vloeistof]

fable 2

[DZNetworks]

I thought that as well.. notice that there haven't been any more diary updates from the Fable development team released on xbox live?

[PlayStation360]

Fable 2 is one of the 08' games I'm most hyped about.

[Thugbot187]

That would suck big time if it was Fable 2. However I think the Fable team is pretty solid and has quite a few games under it's belt. My guess would be Too Human or Alan Wake. Alan Wake i wouldn't care so much but i have been looking foward to Too Human

[green_ghost5]

It's not Fable 2, I'm a member on their community website, and we got two conformations from the devs themselves. Fable 2 is still on, and they just released video dairy episode three and four will be coming around dec.

[OpiZA]

Should be a god bit of news

[iceice123]

Yeah, I will believe that Sony fan anyday.

[Meus Renaissance]

1UP is made of fanboys altogether. Shane is the only one who is a Sony fan or actually talks positives about PS3 games, however most are 360 Guardians.

But that girl on the show, who talks to her dog in the videos, needs to get fired because she contributes nothing but try to look sophisticated with her glasses; however she fails with her fangirl comments degenerate knowledge on some things with the others correcting her.

[Vojkan]

Yeah same Shane PS3 fanboy that said few time that Mario Galaxy kicks azz to Ratchet & Clank, same Shane that in same podcast episode AGAIN said that Galaxy is way better than Ratchet, for no particular reason he bashed R&C. Get a life people. Shane is a puppet that sucks diks of Microsoft/Nintendo/.

BTW-Girl in this episode goes on my nerves. She was like all the time "AHHhhhhhh..." like someone is putting giant d..k in her azz.

[socomnick]

I doubt its fable . My money is on alan wake we haven't seen or heard anything about this game in months. Sucks it was looking very promising.

[Ri0tSquad]

I loved the 1st one.

If its Banjo Kazooie 3.....Could care less.

[AnalFace]

alan wank

[Meus Renaissance]

Banjo Kazooie, that game has been advertised since X06 yet we haven't heard or seen anything about it since.

[MK_Red]

"since X06" you said it yourself. X06 doesn't seem like a "Very long time in works" normal next-gen games take 2-3 years and are not considered long ;)
But still, nothing's for sure. Heck, it's a rumor.

[ParaDise_LosT]

I hope not :\

[Shadow Man]

but if its 3rd party probably not. So my moneys on fable 2. It won't be Too Human it looks way to far along unless something huge happened.

[PimpHandHappy]

cant be done on a 360

thats my guess

[ParaDise_LosT]

Isn't even a MGS published game.
lol
Its also already in Closed Beta, I doubt they'll cancel it when its that far in production
and the IP isn't in Limbo..
My guess is Banjo or KuF:COD....Maybe Halo Wars but thats highly unlikely

[MK_Red]

Nice find but sad news.

"that has been in the works for a very long time" Most likely it is Too Human. It is the game that has been in works for a long time. Alan Wake, Banjo Kazooie 3 and Fable 2 haven't been in works for long. 2 to 3 years max and that's not a long time in game dev standards. Original StarCraft or Diablo 2 (Not sure which) was in works for 4 years and it's still not considered that long.

In the recent list of longest delayed games (Long in works) that was posted here on N4G not long ago, there were Prey, Duke Nukem Forever, Daikatana and Too Human... So yes, my money is on Too Human.

Long dev time aside, other suspects: Alan Wake, Halo Wars, Kingdom Under Fire: CoD, Fable 2.
Hope neither of them are canceled. Also, who could be the leaving exec?

[iceice123]

Wasn't there a bald guy that talked a lot about the 360 pre-launch?

[Devr]

Alan Wake has been in development for a long time. Max Payne came out in 2003, so it's been in development for 4 years now. But it isn't a first-party title, so I doubt it. My bet is on Banjo Kazooie.

[BlackIceJoe]

I think you could be right MK_Red. MS wants to keep a good relationship with Epic and seeing as Silicon Knights is suing Epic. This might mean Gears of War 2 will take longer to be made and if MS lets Too Human go Gears 2 will come sooner.

[bababrooks]

could stuart scott be the guy they are talking about?

[iceice123]

If it ends up being true that it is Too Human. Didn't look good at all. Looked generic to me.

[blooodFrenzy92]

Its definetly not too human theres been recent updates and interviews on it within the last week and it seems like its going good. I really really doubt that its fable 2 because its just to0 big of a game to just get cancelled like that. Also i dont think its banjo 3 either because i was reading something fairly recently on the development of it and that its coming out in 08. Hopefully its just a rumor but if its true i think it may be alan wake even though i hope it isnt.

[Vojkan]

Could be Alan Wake or Fable 2, i put my money on fable 2

[Nameless]

It better not be Fable 2

[pornflakes]

Wtf is going on with MS.

First Bizzare, Bungie, Bioware and now a "great" 1st party title? strange if you ask me.

But never Banjoo, this will come 4 sure. Rare belongs to MS.

[Rhezin]

wtf? it won't be Alan WaKe, it's not that well known, my bet is on too human and the silicon knights buisness.

[Nameless]

While if this news is real I hope it wont be Fable 2 but keep in mind Shane is a PS3 Fan Boy so he can be talking out of his ass like most Sony Droids do.

[ParaDise_LosT]

I'm hoping its Too Human

I want Silicon Knights to Drop it and make an Eternal Darkness Sequel
But thats even more unlikely since they spent atleast 100mil on the IP
(Cost even most than Shenmue....)
so I doubt its Too Human...
It all comes down to 2 games

Kingdom Under Fire:Circle of Doom (Blueside)

or

Banjo Kazooie ( Rare [this might be the best bet because someone high up is going out ](Maybe Rares President? ect.)

[BIoodmask]

Project Gotham Racing 5. Maybe when they are referring to a game long in development, they are referring to the previous games in the series. It is only just a rumor though.

Bizarre Creations is after all owned by Activision now.

[gamesblow]

I posted the news of Alan Wake late last night after I got off work, people. It is Alan Wake!!!!! I'm so glad you all didn't approve my story, though. Ha... The computers at my work say Alan Wake Sku- canceled. Simple as that. We have to do call backs to anyone who reordered it. Pc version is still a go, however. As it did not show up. Monday this news will break even bigger. Wait and see. I'd kindly appreciate it if you all would go approve my story now.

[Martini]

In your dreams troll, get your hand out of your pocket.

[Shadow Man]

i feel he may be right, even though its third party after seeing the footage i don't think it could run on 360. I'm not trying to be fanboyish i have a 360, but the night and day cycle and the real time tornado are pretty amazing. Like something crysis would do, and those devs stated that game could definitely not be done on consoles. So Alan is one of my top suspects to be canceled at least on the 360 side.

[Danja]

It's probably the next Halo...lol..J/K....

[gamesblow]

It's not Too Human, people. It's the xbox 360's version of Alan Wake, which is a 1st party game as they bought up remedy. & how is someone gonna disagree with my 1st post there? I posted this news last night on my blog. It's doccumented well before any of this garbage. I posted the new on my lap top at work as soon as I seen the Sku!

[lodossrage]

When I first read your alan wake axed my space, I was like "yeah right".

Now this gets posted like a day later. Now I'm thinking the canceled game MIGHT be Alan wake.

Dude, how are you getting this info?

[ktchong]

and the admin and Alan Wake tech director said it's not Alan Wake that's canceled - it something else and he has no idea what it is.

I tried to post the official announcement, but the Sony fanboys kept reporting SPAM/DUPLICATE/FAKE/LAME to censor it... seems like they want it to be Alan Wake.

[RadientFlux]

I saw your post/blog... sorry even if it is Alan Wake your post was just to bias to be taken seriously.

[doomsonyman]

GAMESBLOW=360 fanboy

[TheXgamerLive]

What are most rumors on the web?

Well?

False, that's right boys and girls.

So wait for an official announcement if it's true.

[Meus Renaissance]

The fact that most of these rumours relating to MS recently have been true doesn't bode well for your caution. ;)

[TheXgamerLive]

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[rofldings]

Yeah... It's "ATTENTION: RUMORS ONLY" when its 3shitty news, but when a rumor for the ps3 comes up (such as that 40% failure rate bs) - you're all on it going "AHAHHAAH PS3 SUCKS"

stfu tard.

[power of Green]

Sony fanboys are picking the biggest threats as the game being canceled lol. Alan Wake isn't even a 1st party game. Fable 2 Has been comming along and many video's have been showing progress its not Fable 2, its not Too Human.

[Meus Renaissance]

Just out of interest, what is Alan Wake threatning on the PS3 in terms of popularity or impact...Metal Gear Solid? Gran Turismo? Or KillZone 2? White Knight Story?

It's a sincere question.

[TheXgamerLive]

It's future plans of being a gaming console and it's inevitable future as a BR player only being solidified.

LOL, ok well maybe not so powerful as that but it's going to be HUGE and don't mention those hilarious ps3 titles, there weak, the only one with any hope or weight is MGS4 maybe late 2008 or 2009 at this point.
KZ2 also 2009 at this pace.

[power of Green]

You'll have to ask the Sony fanboys that question not me.

My guess is that its probably going to be a AAA and will help MSFT compete in 2008 and its technical prowess has not been seen in gaming. They don't want the 360 to be seen as a power house console by the general public.
http://www.alanwake.com/scr...

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Well the alan wake forums said it was not alan wake.

ummm Xgamer are you saying, ff13,gran turismo, killzone are nothing? You must be retarded to think that.

and mgs4 only has a slight hope? pfft you just proven how big of a fanboy you are. Everyone knows how well these series have done before, and only an idiot would not acknowledge that.

I own a ps3, but I know Halo, fable, and ninja gaiden are great series.

Try just admitting something for once.

[NeonSkull]

halo wars, looked pants anyways.

[TheXgamerLive]

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/g...

[poopface1]

If it is NInja gaiden I'll cry.

[gamesblow]

It is too ALan Wake!!! It's not the Pc version ,folks. That's still being made... Games for windows, at that. The xbox 360 version is in fact axed!!! I cannot stress this enough. I can't wait until Monday.

[Devr]

Wouldn't be surprised if that happened. Alan Wake always seemed a little too ambitious for consoles.

[power of Green]

Thats fucin crazy the Sony fanboys would do such a thing.

[Meus Renaissance]

I've never understood what the game is. It's just a guy in a woody area? What's the plot and why is it seen as some kind of "threat"?

[RadientFlux]

The only reason Alan Wake was hyped was due to the developer (Remedy), who developed Max Payne. Personally it's near the top of my list for games to play in 2008.

[remix]

man alot of 360 fans were looking foward to that game too. it won best showing at e3 2005.

i wonder why this guy is leaving and its cancelled?

lets hope your right power of green because come monday if its alan wake, your gonnna be looking pretty stupid

[darkequitus]

Read the alan wake forum. They said it is not being axed

[macsto]

Allan wake is not a first party title

http://www.alanwake.com/for...

"Moderator Note:
Microsoft Game Studios does not own the copyright nor the IP to Alan Wake. Therefore, Alan Wake is NOT a first party title for Microsoft."

[Mallow]

Oh hey, I know, I'll do like every Xbot in the world and post in some rumor topic and laugh.

Oh man you 360 guys are screwed now, oh well, one less flop for you, I bet it was because to work on 360 they would have to use 12 disc, you shouldn't care anyway because PS3 will kill you in 08.

Yeah, sounds fuc*ing stupid, doesn't ? Idiots, I swear fanboys are idiots.

[lodossrage]

Then I can see Too Human being axed.

I say that because ever since the start of the game's development, it's been riddled with problems.

It was suppossed to be on ps2 and got canceled.

Then it was suppossed to be on gamecube and got canceled.

Now its suppossed to be for 360 and they have trouble with the unreal engine.

So yeah, due to all the past and current troubles. It's a safe bet that it MIGHT be Too Human. But we won't know what game it is until some official announcement is made

[remix]

if forgot about that, they are having problems with that lawsuit so we will see

[remix]

but i last night when gamesblow posted it, i wasnt sure of believing it but now all of a sudden these rumors are coming so we will see.

i called gamestop just now and they said they dont have information on alan wake

[Meus Renaissance]

The woman in this podcast sounds like she is moaning; is she playing with herself? Every sentence she speaks is like "ahhh.." so slowly and exasperated

[HELLFIREV1]

Silicon Knights are i think second party so not them but Lionhead and Rare are first party so it could be Fable 2 or BKazooie and with Alan Wake being a FP game as well who knows.

[IGNFTW]

I WAS NEVER INTERESTED IN THE GAME,SO IT CAN GO.

[gamesblow]

I'm not gonna say I'm 97% sure it's Alan Wake, I'm 99.9% sure it's Alan Wake, cause they're stripping it off all GS computers and the only Slu available is Alan Wake PC TBA. I'm also 100% sure that I had to call people who did pre-orderes early for Alan Wake xbox 360. So, yeah... it's Alan Wake, sorry to say.

[TheXgamerLive]

Let me guess, your a blind sony fan boy.

[power of Green]

Going to be Banjo Kazooie 3 if any of this is true that is.

[MK_Red]

Let's hope that the whole rumor turns out wrong because these are all great games we're talking about.
Banjo Kazooie 3, Alan Wake, Too Human, Fable 3 and others. Hope they all make it.

[Gahigiddy]

Someone put those two dev houses out of their misery, they've made nothing but trash and trouble for ages.

Oh well, MS loses another exclusive, in a harsher way.
The list:

Ace Combat 6, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Eternal Sonata, Katamari, Lost Planet, Full Auto 2, Viva Pinata, Blue Dragon, Oblivion, Condemned, Saint's Row (like how apparently Ridge Racer was a lost exclusive when the title never appeared on PS3), Assassin's Creed (announced first for 360 at X05 - http://www.joystiq.com/2006... Enchanted Arms, Alan Wake (no longer MS 1st party, already coming to PC) the list goes on and on.

Now we have Banjo Kazooie going away.
Remember that there was a multiplatform game called Wardevil that was actually canceled for 360, much worse than losing exclusivity.

Bleed away MS. Bleed away.

[fenderputty]

who the hell is excited for Banjo Kazooie? Seriously ... I'm thinking Too Human. Sucks either way.

[zonetrooper5]

I would not mind if it was Too Human so yeh. I hope its not Alan Wake, Halo Wars, Banjo Kazooie or Fable 2 as they all look awesome. =D

[NeonSkull]

windows vista 2 got to be.

[whateva]

wii fit is the blame for this now everyone at sony and Microsoft is losing they jobs.

joke!

[zonetrooper5]

Actually there was gonna be a new Windows OS in 2009 I think but they pushed that back sometime I think. It was called Vinnena or something...

[Salvadore]

Just a rumor people.

[Snukadaman]

I think if any game gets cancelled it might be huxley....it was really too ambitious for its own good or it might be conan mmo..im guessing its a MMO..since I dont think theres not many people who want too pay for xbox live and then pay for a mmo...i know I dont...but both games are still up on gamestops website..so we shall see....another interesting thing on the gamestop website is UT3 for xbox 360 in may of 2008...that would make it a 6 month exclusive...if it comes out on ps3 in dec.

[LONEWOLF231]

HOLY.......

Man what game could it be???

[DJ]

I'm thinking either Fable 2 or (more likely) Banjo Kazooie. Fable 2 was shown a few months back, and it definitely didn't look very promising. But Banjo has been non-existent. I actually wonder if it's a title that hasn't been announced to us?

Kind of weird that Microsoft hasn't shown any of their plans for 2008, despite the fact that we're only a month and a half away.

[NeonSkull]

i predict they are saving up some big stuff for the next e3 with the hope of blowing sony out the water. sony is going to have some real big stuff to show off with ff13, mgs, gt5, lbp kz2 near completion and they probly got a few new first party titles to show off.

[DJ]

at the next E3 to counter whatever Sony has to offer, but there's also something like a dozen first party titles that Sony hasn't even officially announced yet, on top of the other 15 or 20 exclusives that we know about but haven't seen yet (or seen in a long time).

Next fall is going to be a big battle between Resistance, Killzone, and Gears in terms of FPS offerings.

[FirstknighT]

Gears isn't a FPS. It's a third person shooter. Totally different gameplay.

[HarryEtTubMan]

Who cares none of those games are gonna be big anyways, Alan wake would probally be the best... Too human looks like a piece of crap. Microsft could use some platformers like Banjo Kazooie.. its a good franchise.

[UltramanJ]

The game looked like crap anyway. Pretty textures, bland gameplay, uninspired enemies, and a history of development hell.

[goodganja]

Probably too human will be cancelled. Probably due to it going to it's original console home. Playstation. Started on playstation, finished on Playstation.

P L A Y B 3 Y O N D

[Hollander]

I don’t care what it is as long as its not Alan Wake.
when I still wanted to buy a PS3 I was so pissed that suddenly it was only being made for the 360 en now I have one of those so it would really piss me off if it gets cancelled.

having said that though, I actually don’t for a second belief its Alan Wake.

[PS3 Limps on and on]

Fable 2 baby.

[ThisIsWaiting]

silly fangirl

[Nameless]

It has to be a big enough game for someone to get fired over

[TheMART]

hhhmmmm indeed Alan Wake. That's too bad, I liked the tornado footage...

[EDMIX]

First off they have lost Development Studios ( Bizzare Creations, Bungie, Ninja Theory,) Closed down Studios,(Fasa), and lost potential Studios (Bioware(. All signs point to MS planning for this to be there last System. They have not shown any games for 2008. They have not invested long term, since they bought Rare in like 2002. and LionHead in 2006. Where are MSGS games? Why do they keep paying for timed 3rd Party games? Its cause they are Loseing in Japan and in Europe, and because of the RROD. It cost them 1.6Billon in 2006, and 2billon in 2007, mind you there still losing money off hardware. I think MS has had enough, i don't think they are cut out to be in 1st place. They don't make games,(good ones, Shadowrun) There Hardware sucks, and they are still losing in Japan and the UK, even with Halo3 and Blue Dragon. PS3 at 6.5 millon, 360 at 9.5, that does not look like the lead of a Company that will win. Mind you its been 2 years, and the PS3 has like no game yet, the 360 has shown and released like 95% of all there games.

[TheMART]

And this is called wishfull thinking or should we say wet dreaming from a PS3 fandroid.

Don't wet yourself too much, it gives a mess.

[ElementX]

Go back to school, seriously. You confuse there and their. Shut up unless you can speak properly. BTW MS entertainment division is making money. You say they have 9.5 million consoles sold? Try over 12 million. Where do you get your information?

[HeavyweightInTheGame]

Edmix=Idiot

[BBsin]

Alan Wake is a second party title and the IP is owned by remedy (just like team ninja and NG2 exclusive for the 360, not 1st party but MS got's publishing rights to it). My money is that it's Banjo Kajooie 3, and the executive out the door is that Kim guy. Alan Wake is still in development and Remedy would be stupid to cancel that project after all the resources they put in.

[HeavyweightInTheGame]

Why are Sony fans happy that an exclusive will be lost? I really don't understand why some people want their console to be "the best" and want other console owners to suffer. Play the games and systems you want to play and let others enjoy the ones they want to play. God I hate fanboys.

[Mwaan]

If it was Too Human. Some of you are mentioning Fable 2. Are you nuts?! Fable is to Xbox what Final Fantasy is to Playstation and Zelda to Nintendo. Plus the game is already looking real good. I hope it's Alan Wake if it has to be something...

[darthv72]

has my vote. It has been in dev since xbox 1 and with recent lawsuit over UE3 it makes it the prime target to be canceled.

[UltramanJ]

Actually it was originally coming out on the first Playstation. Personally I'd rather have a spiritual successor to Eternal Darkness.

[pshizle]

there have been updates like crazy if you have not known

im guessing alan wake or maybe fable or BK3

[The Dark Knight]

it is a rumor, didnt they say bioshock was going to be on ps3?? and that dude himself that made the game said that wernt going to make it???

and plus cant be alan wake since they said it was still in devoplment.

But then again if tis is true, may god have mercy on your souls :@

[theoneandonly]

Its not freaking ALAN WAKE or BANJO KAZOOIE.

The game has been in development for a while, and its NOT Too Human since that's second party also.

The game is most likely the SPACE MARINES game that everyone was hyped up about its definitely not something everyone's heard of.

And here's a topic EVERYONE needs to see that includes YOU !

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

=)

[green_ghost5]

http://community.lionhead.c...

This is a link where two different Fable 2 devs have confirmed that Fable 2 is still on, and they are currently working on video dairy 4, which will be out sometime in December. So any fable fans out there don't worry!!!! FABLE 2 FTW!!!!!!ALL THE WAY!!!

[esreveR]

Maybe it's Fallout? Or is that going to be on PS3 as well? That would be a horrible game to lose =(

[Xi]

first party titles are titles from

MGS
Lionhead
Rare
Turn10
all other titles are published by MGS or have their IP's owned by ms.

[solar]

man...i was looking forward to the sequel to Hello Kitty Island Adventure

[EDMIX]

Um ElementX, MSGS has lost money almost every year. NPD puts them at 9.5millon sold, they SHIPED 12MILLON DUMBASS. Plus thats not including the REDRINGED ONES!!! on which they lost 1.6 Billon in 2006 and 2billon in 2007, not sure how much they will lost again this fall. They can't even keep there own studios, they closed down like 4 studios and let go 2, and lost a potentioal studio. The rumors of MS becomeing a 3rd party Dev are becomeing more and more believeable every month. Loseing devs and not buying Devs is not the sign of a Company this is doing well and will win a console war, its the sign of a company loseing one.

[HyperBear]

For those who think it might be Halo Wars, highly doubt it. Theyve already made trailers and a live demo for it, and bungie has already confirmed that they are working with Ensemble to finish it for Spring 08'(But you would know that if you had a 360, wouldnt you, lol). Um, im prolly gonna have to go with most people and say that it is most likely Banjo 3. Cause there hasnt been a shred of news, or trailers, or gameplay, pics, etc, for it ever since that opening at X06 last year. So thats prolly it, but another game I just realized is following that same way.

Now keeping in mind that this may not happen, and because its Ubisoft and a Splinter Cell game, it will most likely not get cancelled, but Im thinking it might be Splinter Cell Conviction. Now i know there have been i think 1 or 2 trailers for it since it was announced, but when you look at it. SP:C, is exclusive to Xbox 360, announced back at E306 and E307, the only thing we've seen or heard about SP:C is that very short, rough, laggy trailer, and it was supposed to come out this year, and it looks like it wont, because no news has been spoken about the game. I dont know, it could be SP:C, could be Banjo 3(most likely), but i think we can all agree its not Too Human, Alan Wake, Fable 2 or Halo Wars. (It could also be that secret project Peter Jackson was supposedly doing for M$, or is that still going?)

[n00dl3s]

this is hilarious. nobody is reading the previous posts that say over and over that alan wake and huxley are not first party titles. In fact both were being developed for the PC first lawl.

Also, who the hell has EVER cared about the banjo kazooie franchise? Honestly... there are sooo many better platformers.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Which 1st party title it could be that apparently everyone has been excited about.

The ONLY game I have been really excited about is Mass Effect so as long as thats not being cancelled I dont give a damn about any other game because I dont know any 1st party titles that are coming out from Microsoft at this stage.

[Genki]

None of it adds up. If it's certainly not Fable, it damn sure isn't Banjo. I have yet to hear of a substantial following for that title, and from what I know, it hasn't been in development for a long time.

This is just here to stir the pot.

Wow, I wish I was in gaming journalism so I could get the whole world riled up about rumors.

Gaming journalism is equivalent to the tabloids now. Rumors for games, preposterous.

[Daves]

We can speculate all we want, either way, whichever game is being canned, if it really has been in dev for a long time then is a big shame for the dev and the buying public... unless it really was bad.

But this is not often the case, it's usually politics that cans games.

No dev likes to see a game canned when they have poured hearts and souls into its creation.

I have been on the receiving end - it's not nice!

[Red]

make a list of upcoming MS first party titles. That might help to know the games first.

[Saint Sony]

It is most likely the above one. Sad news really, just because 360 really needs more games for the kids and whole family.

RARE and MS has not been having the best possible relationship lately.

I would not be surprised if it would turn out to be PS3 exclusive from now on.

[candystop]

MS needs to start showing some cards because all though I hate to say this they appear to be jumping ship from everything thats been going on here lately and I'm a bit concerned! They need to bring back J.Allard and give us gamers alot more than a couple bits of gaming news here and there! I want to know whats going on because if they do jump I guess I will be a pc man simply because I don't want to play Mario games or PS3 games that personally don't live up to next gen in my eye's! Maybe Lost odyssey will be the game leaving and Robbie Bach is exiting for being one of the guys that cost MS a billion! Whatever happens I just hope these are rumors and MS starts to show us why we should never of doubted them to begin with!