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Nintendo Vs. Sega: The Console War - Part II

Following up on the first half from two weeks ago, AMN presents the second half of the complete historical retrospective of the Nintendo/Sega console war of the early 1990's.

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PS360WII6442d ago

Good part 2. 16-bit gaming was the best and has the best library of games.

DeckUKold6442d ago

no wonder why 3rd parties ran away after nintendo tried to turn things around with the genesis and nintendo need to learn to bring they hardware out ON TIME other wise the ps2 wouldn't be the most successful console EVER and M$ Sony and Ninty need too attack each other like that it would be very entertaining

va_bank6442d ago

I was waiting for part 2 - I thought they forgot about it. wery-well written.

jcgamer6442d ago

"But without this, some of the greatest games ever made might not have come to be. It was this fierce competiton that spurred each company's developers to work at the peak of their ability. It was that competitive spirit that forced new game ideas out into the open, and pushed existing ideas to boundaries that in some genres, remain as of yet surpassed. Gamers profited from it, and the industry profited from it. So who won the war - Nintendo's marginal victory in terms of sales or Sega's victory of destroying Nintendo's reputation? If you take away all the corporate espionage, neither of them won. In fact, it was the gamer who won. With the level of competiton that took place in those years, gamers saw some of the greatest hits of all time. Competition inspires greatness, as they say..." -Lucas DeWoody, author

goodganja6441d ago

Sony = Nintendo

Micro$hit= Sega

Micro$hit's tactics are so similar to Sega that it's eerie. I'm expecting their fall off by 2009.

P L A Y B 3 Y O N D

darthv726441d ago

It is no suprise that we are living in the 90's again with the 360 vs PS3 war mimicking the "world console war II" between Sega and Nintendo. The battle lines are pretty much the same and even the tactics used by both sides are following history to the "T".

Yet this "WCW III" may have a different outcome than that of the past. It can mostly be attributed to the generation of the systems this time around. To understand what I mean you simply need to look at the combatants from the past "WCW I" (atari, coleco, etc) as well as those from WCW II (Nintendo, sega, etc) and see the number of systems each company produced, which generation system was their height, and which generation system was the beginning of their descent.

It has been shown by systems in the past that the 2nd gen system is where the height of a consoles popularity peaks as both the brand recognition and the system itself. If they are able to make it through to creating a 3rd, that is where the decline of the brand begins to take form. Making it to a 4th can pretty much guaranty that success will be few and far between as compared to the 2nd gen iteration.

Looking at the 360 and PS3 and using the logic stated above you will see that the 360 is only a 2nd gen system for MS and the PS3 is a 3rd gen for Sony. The height and popularity of the Playstation brand has been (and probably will always be) the PS2 (a 2nd gen system for Sony). You also have to understand the "sequel" analogy of if there is a sequel it has to be better than the first. Rarely does that happen and even more rare does a 3rd outdo the 2nd.

More examples of this analogy would be the 2600 was the 2nd gen system to the PONG which was Atari's first. The 5200 was 3rd and 7800 was 4th, Jaguar 5th. The last three being failures in their own respects.

SNES 2nd, NES 1st with N64 3rd being somewhat successful but nowhere close to the SNES. Gamecube is the 4th and in a strange but true turnaround you have the overly popular Wii as their 5th.

Sega had the Genesis as their 2nd gen system to the Master System being 1st. The saturn was the official 3rd gen and Dreamcast is the 4th. I am hopeful there will be a 5th (rumored to be called Phoenix for creative naming). There were a number of additions during the Genesis time but none were true "generational" systems including the 32x.

Sony has the PS2 2nd gen to the PS1 1st gen and is now in that "3rd time may NOT be the charm" situation with the PS3. The developement of a PS4 depends solely on the outcome of this 3rd gen system.

Sorry for the long read but you see I speak from experience and I use logic and reasoning. Something REALLY lacking from the droves of fanboys (no offense...but still true) that troll this site. Anyone who has been through the ups and downs of gaming since its inception will agree with me that this generation has no idea where the roots of great gaming really came from.

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils1d 14h ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent7521h ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils13h ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai2d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning772d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher1d 18h ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor1d 18h ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde1d 16h ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z1d 5h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey861d ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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The 'Stop Killing Games' initiative is close to its final deadline

Ross Scott—also known as Accursed Farms on YouTube—has been fighting tooth and nail for almost a full year to help spearhead game preservation. Starting after it was announced that Ubisoft's The Crew would be shutting down, permanently ending support for the game, Scott launched the "Stop Killing Games" initiative.

That makes a twofold deadline for the Stop Killing Games initiative. Or, at least, one headed up by Scott: The UK petition, which ends July 14, and the EU Citizens' Initiative, which ends July 3.

M3talDiamond5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

If you live in the EU then Please sign this or our game ownership rights and game preservation is
at stake. I know there isnt much time left but please consider signing the petition

-Foxtrot4d ago

I never knew Ross Scott was doing this

I love Freemans Mind

Inverno4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

People whine and in the end don't do a thing. Then whine more when they get screwed some more smh. If this makes it then it'll be monumental for consumers. That Pirate software guy was no help either smh.

GazCBG4d ago

The EU Date is the 31st July not the 3rd

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Xbox June Update: Copilot for Gaming Available on Mobile, Aggregated Gaming Library, and More

There are many exciting updates this month for Xbox. Copilot for Gaming is available now for early preview on mobile and will be coming to PC soon. Xbox PC app introduces a wave of new updates: Aggregated gaming library gives players quick access to games from Xbox, Game Pass, and other leading PC storefronts, and with publisher channels players can browse their favorite franchises. Updates for the Xbox Console includes customization for Most Recently Used, free-to-play benefits, Game Hubs, and dialog improvements for game saves.

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darthv726d ago

"Players can now hide system apps, pin favorites to the list, and reduce the number of tiles displayed. This update is part of our ongoing effort to make Home more personal, flexible, and responsive to feedback."

This is welcomed, i like a less cluttered home screen.

Profchaos6d ago

Not everything needs co pilot ms

1Victor5d ago

Gotta be a slow news day when a 18 hours and 3 comments (now 4)makes it to the front page🤷🏿
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Well anything that adds and help gamers is a good thing even if some don’t need it there’ll be more that will use it.

darthv725d ago

Well its MS news... those are usually pretty dry, unless it has something to do with another game being ported to PS. then its top of the pops.

Obscure_Observer5d ago

"Well its MS news... those are usually pretty dry, unless it has something to do with another game being ported to PS. then its top of the pops."

Oh look no further than the "Upcoming layoffs at MS" topic. It will easily top the Hottest of the week.

Special guests like Mr. Dead might also show up. You just watch.