Failure-in-Motion: The PlayStation Move is a Bust

PSLS: Think back to E3 2010, when all the talk was about Microsoft and Sony jumping onto the arm-waggling motion-controller bandwagon made so popular by the little Wii that could. The 360 went the way of controller-less cameras, and the PlayStation 3 decided to stick close to the Wii with the PlayStation Move. While the PlayStation Move is much more precise than the Wii, and has seemingly infinite potential, up to this point in time the Move has been a complete bust. And it’s looking like it will continue to be, at least in the near future.

[doctorstrange]

I agree. It needs some move-only AAA games.

[Trexman89]

it just needs games period. Sure, games like No More Heroes will have Move Support, but there need to be game designed specifically for the device.

[Heartnet]

Like Sorcery :) that game look sweet imo :P

[Boletarian]

If there was a game designed specifically for Move, that one could only play with Move, would it be said that Sony was shoving Move down people's throats?

[Ju]

Move only games is not what I want. I want all games to support it (at least all shooters). I love the Move in shooters. Each its own I suppose. I hardly play games because they are Move exclusive, I like the games I am used to; but with a new experience.

They can tack on what ever they want, I think Sony should force all 3rd party studios to support a move option in FPS and 3rd person shooters (and action games). Glad Resistance3 will support it, but a shame if BF3 won't (well, there is some time left).

[sikbeta]

If they wanted to push the thing for real, they should have Sourcery done by the time Move was released, (no news about this game for months now) the same way with LBP2 which was pushed back until January, get ready all the patches for the games that support Move like HR and RE5 ( pay to Capcom to get it done in time if needed), release some Move-only games and after all that, release games with optional support like KZ3 and R3...

[t0mmyb0y]

I was hooked on Tumble when it came out, then Echochrome 2 wasn't quite as engaging. Now I don't use it :(

[-Alpha]

It needs exclusives, sure, but the problem is that it's an optional motion device, meaning less focus and attention by devs because they don't want to limit their product.

PS3 is doing well, consumers and devs just want to focus on the plethora of games for the product, not jump into unnecessary device add-ons.

The product itself is too much of a risk for devs to go out and utilize to its potential. As long as the product is optional, devs will assume first that most of their audience does not have both.

This also goes for the people saying the Vita will make the Wii U obsolete: Wii U tablet is in the hands of 100% of Wii U buyers. Devs have more confidence in using the Wii U tablet to its advantages. The PSVita is not in the hands of 100% PS3 users and devs wont utilize the compatibility as a main focus.

[fr0sty]

I guess kinect is a bust also? it only has a couple million more sales, and an even worse looking game library.

[Aggesan]

In a way I'm glad it's not a huge success. Too many people buying it would mean too much focus on casual stuff from the developers, which is in conflict with my intrests.

[killcycle]

Move for me has been the best experience for Arcade shooters.

Deadstorm pirates and Time Crisis.
Killzone 3 is also very very good with move god knows how they made it so accurate on that game.

What do they need?

POINT BLANK!!!!!

[seinfan]

That's the problem, though. Call the developers lazy, but they have to do twice as much work with vector calculations just to support both the DS3 and Move. They are going to favor DS3 in terms of QA simply because it's the standard. But if they only supported Move, then people would be like "wtf, I don't want to buy a game that makes me use this only." Pick your poison.

[DarkTower805]

I enjoy The Fight: Lights Out, then House of the Dead is coming out soon. Still waiting on Sorcery like others.

[Dee_91]

after i got use to sharpshooter i was hooked for awhile
I was just imagining what could be possible
but it does need more support
Honestly I was hoping for more move titles at e3

[lil Titan]

i wouldnt say move is a failure anymore than kinect is a success http://imageshack.us/photo/...

[Disccordia]

I think Sorcery was either cancelled or will return as only a move-optional title? The game looked pretty much done at e3 2010 and then we've seen nothing for 15 months.

[fatstarr]

they are lucky no more heroes is designed for the wii. like i said a year later and its just a wii mote imitation with lackluster games.

they should just release ps4 with move and move+ support out the gate

100% of the games library should support it thats like gettin a ds game with no touch input.

a universal move to controller mapping should be able to be downloaded and patched into any game so you could at least walk and play basically with move in anygame.

[Getowned]

yep the move is a failure and not because of the tech the device it's self is great but it's not used to it's full potential it suffers i got mine with the socom4 bundle and it was fun but then socom got boring and i stoped playing and a month later i got dead space extraction and played it with the move (as a huge fan of dead space i loved it 8.5/10 not bad for a rail shooter) i am how ever intrested on how it will be used with the new bioshock game..my biggest problem with move is lack of support i should of known they wouldn't support it that much just like the eye toy and the move turned into nothing more then a gimmick right now the only move game i still play is the fight lights out.we need more move games maybe a few made for move only or at the very least move in mind.

[nickjkl]

i find it strange how people call i a failure because there's only a small number of move only games

that's like calling a car manufacture a failure because only a small amount of there vehicles are used in racing

[Marceles]

Well that's the thing nickjkl...a car manufacturer makes race cars, but if people aren't making any roads for the race cars to drive other than on a regular street, then what's the use of owning one? You can only drive at the limit and only know about its potential.

[darthv72]

The wii uses the wiimote 100% of the time. This includes using it as a pass though for the classic controller.

Yet because of the focused attention in the controller it basically gives the devs different ways of making it work for their game. Move has potential but it needs to get past that "add-on" appeal and fall into more of a standard like the wiimote.

Problem is....sony would not commit to that kind of investment. Changing everything they have done with traditional controls and forcing the use of move to take the sixaxis/ds3 place. It wont happen or if it does then next system release.

But to call it a bust is hardly appropriate. The games are there with more to come. To call move a bust would be like calling sony's 3d in games a bust. The only ones that should be able to say that are sony themselves. For now there is support for both move and 3d as new games come out.

[zag]

All this stuff doesn't work simply because you need to devote a whole room just to make use of it.

Which many people just wouldn't want to do that.

The other reason is not many people will want to stand up and jump around just to do stuff in a game.

Many people are just jumping on the band wagon because it's new then find out that a 6 hour game would actually require you to stand up and jump around for the whole 6 hours and probably give up after 20 mins.

[50Terabytespersec]

I hope Sony learns from this garbage..
Thank you also MS for brainwashing(millions in marketing) Americans into thinking your crap is just as good, motion control BS!
Motion Control is the day i can run walk in place and jump and shoot evert MF in the room and break a major sweat and calories,and not look like and idiot doing it!!!!
This crap is child gimmicks and nerd life-sucking toys!
Im out in the outdoors doing this crap and with Paintball Bikes and guess what Im not obese!!!!
Give me games like uncharted and Killzone not Gimmicks Sega 32x anyone?

[Neko_Mega]

Really? This idea seems to be working for Sony more then Wii making games Wii Remote only.

[Elwenil]

What are "Paintball Bikes"?

[ASTAROTH]

Unfortunately its all NINTENDO's fault.

Nintendo take a gamble just adding motion controls to a GameCube powerfull old tech hardware. The press and everybody saw the Wii as an "innovative" gameplay over graphics console when the reality was it was just a new motion controller with lots of shovelware and crap games to play. We all end buying a Wii just for the hype... as amazing as Mario Galaxy 2, I cant stand playing it for more than one hour with the Wii mote.

Then everybody copied NINTY and guess what?? Ninty just droped the Wii controller for a more traditional controller with a LED screen and a console with HD graphics. What happened to the gameplay over graphics NINTY?? The truth was that gameplay experiences were and are even worse with motion controls.

NINTY is known among fanboys for being innovative. I believe NYNTY is the responsable for the decadence in gaming. They just want more money from the Mario franchise. Ninty is also responsable for the overhashed and re-releases of old games in new packeges... HELL Ninty even re-releases its old Mario All Star as a Wii "exclusive". Thanks to that now we see a everybody re-releasing games as HD revisions instead of completely new experiences. From Sony to MS to Nintendo and Capcom everyone seems to have an HD collection of something. Dont be surprised if the mayority of Wii U games ended up being "remastered" Gamecube and N64 "classics"

Just my opinion... ohh and I have the MOVE too. So far KZ3 is one of the few games I really enjoyed with it... but I still prefeer playing it with the DS3!!

[orange-skittle]

Sony copy-cats everything Nintendo does. When Nintendo showed the world the Wiimote, Sony responded w/ the dumb six axxis controller. Barely any games make use of it and is almost unused now. Microsoft stuck w/ their guns and kept their controllers the same way without following Nintendo. Their response to Nintendo was remote-less control. What was sony's response, Another controller that does the same is the wiimote. What's next Sony, a tablet?

[Hayabusa 117]

Though you put up a good arguement against motion controls, you failed miserbaly by suggesting it was Microsoft that "brainwashed" Americans into believing Motion controls was the future when we all know (except for you, apparentely) that Nintendo kicked it off. Fanboyism at it's best...

[Achemki]

@orange skittle
How can a "me-too" company be the only one with blu-ray and true stereoscopic 3D in 2011, lol?

Look, I like Nintendo, but the Wii isn't even HD and the online Wii friend codes are a dinosaur. You can just as easily say Nintendo is copying Sony and MS with their new Wiis and the 3DS since the Wii supports neither 3D, HD or anything resembling a relevant online service.

[orange-skittle]

@Hayabusa, MS didnt brainwash anyone into thinking that bc you would've seen it mass marketed and everywhere. You would see it implemented in a lot of their games as well. They just want a piece of the pie w/o making and ME-TOO controller. MS wants the 360 to be a multimedia machine. That was the target goal since 2001. They invest more into XBL than they do anything else. If you did your hmwk you would have seen that was Bill Gates' mission statement.

@Achemki

You have to be joking if you think Nintendo is copy-catting. They haven't followed the leader yet and sometimes it has failed while others have been successful. When everyone went CD-ROM, nintendo stayed cartridge based and failed. Then when they went disc, they went mini-disc and and failed. Nintendo not only dominates consoles, they dominate hand helds. How can you even say what you said? MS has yet to release a motion controller or update their DVD9 drive to blue-ray to appeal to the masses. They do what they do...period. Sony should focus on what really matters most...ONLINE GAMING. Fix PSN and give it a major update/overhaul. Digital Downloads and Streaming is the future.

[VINNIEPAZ]

As I said in my other post if you bought Move or Kinect you shouldn't have expected a massive amount of games to go with them. When you buy these "ad ons", you are most likely going to waiting months between something worth using them for. I have both and am somewhat happy with what has been released for both, yea I wouldn't mind more games but this is about what I expected. Saying either failed is all perspective I guess.

[TheDivine]

Idk kinect has tons of games and lot coming. The difference is move is kind of an afterthought where kinect has the focus. Its great move can work with games but it needs a reason to buy it like move exclusives, not just sorcery down the road but at least 5 good ones. Kinect has that. I dont own either but il get kinect down the road once all these games get released. I want ur shape and ufc trainer not to mention child of eden is awesome on it. Hope steel batallion, project draco, and kingdoms whatever come out well.

Kinect is a platform where move is a redisigned controller. I dont want to spend 100 for move plus 80 for another just to replay through my games. Il pay 150 for kinect if theres games i want for it.

[mcstorm]

I agree with you. There is aot of hate for kinect and move but they are both good at different things. Kinect offers more than move and i think so far ms have done a good job with it as they have some must have games like kinect sports dance central. But move dose not really have any stand out game. Yes kz3 and lbp2 look amazing but if yoi dont tell everyone what move adds to the game noone will buy it and this is why kinect has out sold move. This is why apple out sell everyone else and tthe same for the wil and ds out selling the other consoles.
The biggest plus for kinect though is it can be used for more than games and this will help ms think of new ways to interact with the console plus with games like forza 4 me3 adding extra content into the games for kinecg it will help other developers come up with other ideas for there games. Where sonys first party are not really showing off move in there games so its not pushing the device.

[SonnyD978]

Kinect does not offer more than Move, mcstorm.

[taylork37]

@Sonny

They are both busts so who the fuck cares.

[Kurt Russell]

I bought a move... it's a clever bit of tech - but I bought one game when I got it, and have never bought anything for it since. If house of the dad lands for it I will get it, but in general it's just another dust gatherer in my living room.

[IcarusOne]

Sonny says "Kinect does not offer more than Move, mcstorm."
I disagree. (Full disclosure: I own neither.)

Kinect allows you to navigate the dashboard without a controller. Move doesn't. Kinect recognizes your face and signs you in automatically. Move doesn't. Kinect allows you to interface via voice commands. Move doesn't.

At this point let me clarify: I'm not saying the PS3 can't do some of these things, just that at the moment, it doesn't.

I'm not too interested in either piece of tech at the moment, but what really impresses me about Kinect is its use beyond the console. Hospitals buy it and write their own software for it, allowing doctors to interact with 3D MRI scans. Cancer researchers use it to examine theoretical proteins. I just read that there's even a Kinect at the Hadron Collider, allowing the scientists there to better control the scans of the collisions.

In my opinion, Kinect is moving us closer to a Minority Report future. Move isn't really doing anything, aside from helping some of us play a couple of video games.

[paintsville]

Kinect is a huge success with lots and games and record setting sales. Move, like this article said, is a bust. Too much like Wii.

[Achemki]

@icarusone & mcstorm
And the Move has ITS OWN DEVELOPMENT KIT on the PS Store with free discounts for schools and people who want to use it for educational/teaching applications etc. Do some homework. http://blog.us.playstation....

Move needs a camera to work so a camera is part of Move and the camera has been recognizing facial scans and voice (it has a built in mic for any game) for years. Kung Fu Live scans and tracks your whole body into the game as is. Games/apps like Tori-Emaki and Operation Creature Feauture are 100% hands free Minority Report (including menus) since 2006/2007. The concept of Kinect is only new to people that don't have PS3s or know what they do, *cough cough*.

@paintsville
Move sales are just a smidge below Kinect. Kinect however doesn't support AAA games. Move works with lotsa stuff from existing games like Heavy Rain and Killzone 3 to LBP2 and Resistance 3 later this year. Resistance > Sesame Street.

[StanSmith]

@achemki

If you had used kinect you wouldn't be comparing it to those PS Store titles that use the PS Eye.

Look, i was like you. I doubted kinect. I just couldn't see how it could work and i wrote it off as an eyetoy copy. Oh boy did that opinion change when i played it at a friends house. Simply put, it works. It's better than Move. It now has better support than Move. Move will just be an add-on as this article says. Kinect has become a new way to play games just like the Wii was when it released.

I'm no longer using my Move controllers. They just sit there collecting dust. This year, however, i'm planning on buying kinect for games like Star Wars & Rise of Nightmares. As for move.... It could find itself being traded in.

[showtimefolks]

for example PSP is a failure yet it sold over 60 million systems and sold a lot of software for sony too so why is it a failure? compare to DS is that why?

and ps move has sold over 9 million units and that's without any major title just for move. I don't think sony considers that a failure and with more titles using move and some move exclusive titles coming up soon its only gonna get better.

sorcery should be a great game with move

but what a fan may consider a failure might be a huge success for that company.

[SlipperyMooseCakes]

If you read the article, he isn't coming from a sales perspective. He goes over that early on.

[nycredude]

So just because he thinks it is a failure then it is? Forget about the numbers right just toss that out the window.

[damnyouretall]

i really like my move sharpshooter. kz3, socom 4 and r3 round the corner. headshots are easier,kinda as easy as using a mouse to aim. all the people that tried my setup really enjoyed it, so i wouldnt say its a bust. some people think theyre too cool and just wont give it a chance. anyways im hoping a great game like skyrim will use the move. we'll see. ive been playin games for 27 years and i dont mind changing it up a bit. move is better than just a gimmick imo

[arjman]

They need Lord of the Rings with move controls.

Imagine slaying uruk-hai at Helm's Deep with the move as your sword and the nav. as your shield...

[JayD-1K]

you would need 2 move controllers but, yeah...nice idea!

[firemassacre]

i do not agree, i think the move has actually proven to have hardcore games like resistance 3, killzone 3, bioshock infinite will use it ect...all we need it sorcery.

[GrandTheftZamboni]

Killzone 3 + Move + 3D = one of a kind experience.

I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't tried it for myself.

[subtenko]

Well the ps move does have more games than kinect, I guess kinect is dead O_O say it aint so :( I like both, I prefer one over the other, but I sitll like both.

As a ps2 eyetoy owner, I appreciate what both do for the gaming industry no matter how big or small of a deal they are. Sometimes things make you go "wtf..." but thats not all the time..

Agree or Disagree if you Agree

[Tired]

You DO realise just how lame 'Agree or Disagree if you Agree' is, right?

[tplarkin7]

Sony did not invest in motion control tech. The Sixaxis controls and Move were knee-jerk reactions to the competition. It was done to please the investors, not gamers.

[jneul]

dont be stupid and completely ignore the existance of eyetoy even before wiimote existed and they even had an early version of move back in 2001(just a prototype without buttons or gyros), yes back then it was all just testing to see if their theory worked but seriously i think we are all fed up of of these suggestions when there is proof out there that sony did indeed invest in motion control way before ninty did....

[Seferoth75]

Come on now... Posting a video in 2008 two years after the Wii releasd and slapping a 2001 date on it is hardly proof.

BTW you might want to look up this thing called the Power Glove. Nintendo released it before Sony was ever even in the gaming market.

so if I take a Wii video and slap a 1980 date on it you'd take it as proof?Wow

You got fooled by PR BS.

[Cmpunk]

atleast sony didn't abonded their fanbase unlike m$

[Hedberg]

I think it works really well in Socom 4, Killzone 3, Tiger Woods: The Masters 2012, and The Fight: Lights Out....I am looking forward to Sorcery and Resistance. It works really well for shooters (not with the sharpshooter attachment, I haven't tried that, just by itself) It is akin to using a mouse a keyboard and I have really taken a liking to it.

My kids love The Shoot, Time Crisis: Razing Storm (especially the Dead Sea Pirates part),and even Eye Pet and Start the Party...... Definitely and underrated peripheral in my eyes.

[cobblestone19]

Move still has more overall quality than the embarrassing Kinect. Kinect makes me feel sorta ashamed to be a gamer...

EDIT: @Cmpunk: The fact that you have any disagrees proves that 360 fanboys care WAY to much about what happens with the Ps3.

[Lifewish]

Needs some much needed love in the form of killer games.

[Drekken]

The shooters that support move have been pretty amazing. Slap a move and a navi in the sharpshooter and that warrants the price of entry. I have been having too much fun with it lately and can't wait for resistance 3.

[guitarded77]

No doubt... Sony has done an excellent job of making games for all players with the Move.

[LadyGaga]

Those games only support Move functionality and are best played with a controller. Those games don't count. Move doesn't have any decent exclusives.

[Drekken]

So what you are saying, Lady Gaga is that a game that I only play with the move/sharpshooter doesn't count as a move game? Your N4G persona is as stupid as your music.

Sony already said that move won't replace the controller, but be another option. I spent money on move and get to use it with these games and that counts.

[BrianG]

I personally have about 6 games for Move, 3 being Move only and the others Move compatible.

While I'm not overwhelmed with great games at my finger tips, I'm also not completely disappointed.

The Move compatible games are always fun, and I am picking up quite a few this Fall, old and new. But I would obviously like to see more Move exclusives, like Sorcery type games. Maybe even a full on Gladiator type experience, Fallout style game maybe, those would be great.

Creative uses for the Move controller. I don't want to see games like Deadmunds Quest from E3 or Move Hero's. While those games do target an audience, they aren't for me.

[metsgaming]

sports champions was great and thats about it, then there is killzone 3 which i played a little bit with it. They need to make a sports champions 2 i was disappointed they went and made a mid-evil game instead. When you look at it alot of shooters are using the move now but i just dont like it for shooters or at least FPS. Then there was that bs with RE5 that you had to have the gold version. Complete bull that would have worked great with the move.

[Fishy Fingers]

Tacked on peripherals rarely win over the masses, Move just followed the trend. Better luck next time. Stop wasting development resources on it please.

[Parapraxis]

I'd like some more move games. Spending development money is not a waste to me. If anything they should put more money into it, especially from a business standpoint.
Resistance 3, Bioshock Infinite, GoldenEye 007: Reloaded and The House of the Dead Overkill will all be played first with Move.
And if they play as well as KZ3 I'll be more than happy.

[Vaud-Villian]

Move released at about the same time Nintendo started to fall into decline. Waggle gaming is a popped bubble.

[dbjj12088]

At least it has more games than the Kinect..... :-/

[Fishy Fingers]

In my eyes, that's like saying, "I've got more STDs than you".

Congratulations :/

[Why o why]

Lol

Ive used it as an integrated device on core games like killzone, resident evil, heavy rain. I would definitely like more move only games. The game ive put the most time into was sports champion in the move only cat. I would like more games of that quality. Wtf happened to sorcery??

[omi25p]

Your joking. I dont like kinect but i know it has a Huge selection of games.

Dance Central 1
Dance Central 2
Kinectimals
Kinect Adventures
Kinect Joy Ride
Kinect Sports
Dance Masters
EA Sports Active 2.0
Motion Sports
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved
Sonic Free Riders
Your Party: In Motion
Zumba Fitness
Adrenalin Misfits
The Biggest Loser: Ultimate Work Out
Child of Eden
Forza 4
Kinect Star Wars
Brunswick Pro Bowling
Micheal Phelps: Push The Limit
Micheal Jackson: The Experience
Fable: The journey
Rise Of Nightmares

Im am certain there is more.

@Below, I didnt say they were good games, I just said games. Also alot of those games are out

[chasedagreat]

lololololololol all those games suck

[Shang-Long]

but they are games. maybe not be good but they are good. to be far dance Central is good

[cooperdnizzle]

Half of those games aren't even out yet. lol. And sadly they are all crap to the fullest. Not one of them is a good game.

[Ulf]

Move has just as many games, if you're including "support", rather than "required", which you appear to be doing.

[cooperdnizzle]

Sin151. You sound like a loser. "Stfu" Hahhahah go dance in front of you're tv. You must be a little girl to like that game. Or i hope you are for you're sake. And while you're dancing in front of you're tv, ill be playing real games like killzon socom resistance, heavy rain, ect. hahahah what a little lady!

[gamingdroid]

I'm looking forward to Mass Effect 3 support and Ghost Recon personally. There is of course Ryse as well.

Also looking forward to Gunslinger and Fruit Ninja. Fruit Ninja looks like the bomb!

Dash integration for Kinect will also hopefully be uber awesome to use. Personally, I'm looking forward to even more Kinect stuff. Bring it on!

[Tired]

As opposed to:-

Auditorium*
Beat Sketcher*
Brunswick Pro Bowling
Cabela’s Dangerous Hunts 2011
Create
Dance Dance Revolution
EyePet
The Fight: Lights Out
Funky Lab Rat*
Get Fit With Mel B
Heavy Rain (via PSN software update)
High Velocity Bowling* (via PSN software update)
Hustle Kings* (via PSN software update)
John Daly’s ProStroke Golf
Kung Fu Rider
MAG (via PSN software update)
NBA 2K11
Pain* (via PSN software update)
Planet Minigolf* (via PSN software update)
Racquet Sports
Rapala Pro Bass Fishing 2010
Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition (via PSN software update)
R.U.S.E.
Sackboy’s Prehistoric Moves*
Singstar Dance
The Sly Collection
Sports Champions
Start the Party
Swords & Soldiers* (via PSN software update)
The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn’s Quest
The Shoot
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11 (via PSN software update)
Time Crisis: Razing Storm
Toy Story 3: The Video Game (side modes via PSN software update)
TRON: Evolution
Tumble*
TV Superstars
echochrome II
Dead Space Extraction
de Blob 2
Dungeon Defenders*
Dungeon Hunter: Alliance*
PlayStation Move Heroes
Killzone 3
LittleBigPlanet 2
Michael Jackson: The Experience
Modern Combat: Domination*
No More Heroes: Heroes’ Paradise
SOCOM 4
Sorcery
Top Darts*
Under Siege*
Virtua Tennis 4
Yoostar 2
Zumba Fitness

There are more now but I cant be bothered...

[Seferoth75]

Lot of that list is already available on Wii.

LOL so games that were complete garbage on WIi are suddenly worth owning a Move for?.. All it takes to change some peoples opinions of something is a name change. How sad and pathetic.

[cobblestone19]

Looking at all of these agrees/disagrees, Xbots need to get a life.

[Ares90]

Agree with doctorstrange
PS: I think Infamous 2 will have a move patch coming soon...?

[HeavenlySnipes]

for creating UGC missions, not playing.

I think the Move has to be incorporated into a larger variety off genres. Imagine if Skyrim had Move support and played like Sports Champions?

Having them in FPS games is fun for the campaign but playing online will get you raped.

I'm looking forward to Socery, and more RPGs need to be developed to take advantage of the Moves precision capabilities.

[YogiBear]

@ HeavenlySnipes

Not true. My clan leader uses "move" for Killzone 3 and he wrecks people.

[mastiffchild]

I agree with Yogi. I'm actually AMAZED at how much better I am at KZ3 with move than with a DS3-it's almost a totally different game, tbh, and I'm told a sharpshooter would help me even more-though I'm sceptical about that one, even now!

Point is Move is just as good as a controller for some people and better for others while a lot of folk will always stick to their pads-I came, shooter wise, from PC and, to me, a mouse IS a motion controller so it's natural to me that Move would be OK.

You aim down sights a lot less(unless you want to snipe but Move is better run and gun)and it's more a plain reflex thing imho.

[trollkill]

i agree thts what i thought the whole time plying demon souls how cool it would be with move. But ppl saying Sony is not supporting move is laughable or tht there arent any games is dumb doesnt matter if move was enabled after many of thsd games arebetter thn move only games and motion control well

[Jdub895O]

i like how people disagree with you.Obviously they dont know how it is to play move games online. Socom singleplayer was the shi# with the move.KZ3 was great as well.These stupid idiots are just gay and immature. There is a new game coming out from the devs from sport champions that looks very good.An adventure game that uses alot of gameplay mechanics from sport champions....

[DJMarty]

Bust my ass, MOVE has miles more support than Kinect.

Reason MOVE can do proper control schemes, not just lame ass Kinect controls.

Jump, lean left, lean right, run on spot.

[sikbeta]

Key-word here is "exclusive" as games only playable with Move and there aren't much of those, having move-compatible games is appreciated for gamers (KZ3+Move is excellent) but they need to sell those motion-controllers and the best way to do it is by making move-only games, Sorcery should have been a launch title for move...

[Jihaad_cpt]

yes because Kinnect only games are so great?

[qwertyz]

move is still better for gaming than kinect. the only reason kinect has so much developer support is because its selling very well.

[KMCROC]

This is my favorite part of the article. LOL

In the end, it is hard to call anything a bust with over 9 million units sold worldwide. However, when your competition is nearly doubling that number at a higher cost, all while driving their car with an imaginary steering wheel all the way to the bank, then things start looking… bad.

[mrmancs]

i went out and bought the lot , cheers sony for mugging your hardcore fans of, better see a sick star wars game soon at least , twin light sabers fully tracked with rage like graphics , if not a fail.

[metsgaming]

typical lucasarts ignores a game that would be good a Lightsaber move game, Battlefront 3, and goes a make garbage kinect starwars and the forced unleashed. Come on...

[sickbird]

motion gaming is a bust.

[Silly gameAr]

Damn. Maybe they should have spent half a billion on that bad boy. Should have marketed it as a must have instead of something optional. :/

[Cpt_kitten]

eh if killzone had a locked reticle instead of it moving around the screen i would love playing it with the move so much more, but because its not i hate it

[Parapraxis]

Key is to remove the bounding box completely then tweak the horizontal and vertical setting to your liking. It basically works like a mouse pointer that way.

[HowarthsNJ]

Is there a post somewhere with the settings?

[naiyo]

thats what the DS for.

[chasedagreat]

Kinect is a Bust
fast out the gate now its out of gas

[KingZFlipper]

why bring up kinect in this article? makes no sense.

[Jihaad_cpt]

probably because teh article mentions Kinnect? Now next time please learn to comprehend

[metsgaming]

9+ million for move is a failure but 11+ million for kinect is a resounding success ? Thats only a 2 million difference how is one a complete failure and the other a success story? Oh wait i know why its gaming journalism nothing needs to make sense.

[Dread]

wow

you did not read the article right?

come on admit it :)

o and FYI it was written by a Sony fan, so keep that in mind before all of you fanatics start claiming that there is a conspiracy in journalism against Sony. lolz

[Jihaad_cpt]

Actually American journalism and gaming journalism is horrible and not journalism at all I think thats what his saying

[Seferoth75]

Sony is perfect and there is nothing negative to say about them. If you make up something negative even if you have proof it is total bias..

Pointing out PS3 is dead last? Media bias
Pointing out how poor software sales are? Media bias.
There are 4 Sony loyal for every 1 real gamer so of course everything is bias against Sony

[blackburn10]

Its just like how people call PSP a failure at 70 million sold. Because it sold less doesn't make it a failure. I guess since the 360 hasn't sold as mich as a PSP or a PS2 I guess that makes it a failure too. Or the fact that Kinect hasn't sold as much a console I guess that makes it a failure too?@ Raven_Nomad half those games are below average and the other half are unreleased games. What's your point?

[cooperdnizzle]

People complained that the wii had no hard core games. Now sony starts adding support for all of there hard core games, and people like you aren't happy. I think it would be even lamer if they made games like you want. I like using my move with games i already like. Socom uses it very well. Lame article. And its only been out about a year. Lets see what the announce next year. And yea there must be fanyboys on this thread. Because the move has way more support then the Kincet yet there are a huge amount of disagrees with it. The move has way more games and support. I can list all of them and all of the kinect games if you would like. The move kills it!

[Swiggins]

I have no idea how you think the Move kills the Kinect.

They have roughly the same amount of titles and roughly the same amount of Good Titles. The only real difference being that Sony has implemented them into other games that don't demand it sooner than Microsoft...with varying degrees of success...I do think KZ3 rocks my socks off with a Move.

However Microsoft will soon be implementing that as well and then where the hell will we be? Right back to a standstill.

The other thing is that even though Microsoft's tech is far and away more advanced, they have no idea how to properly implement it, it's like giving a toddler an atom smasher. If they'd only do a little research into what they're own tech can do, then maybe they'd be able to churn out a good game.

As it stands now, nobody is winning, but know this, if Microsoft ever gets their heads out of the sand and realizes what they've got, then they're gonna be raking it in hand over fist.

[Raven_Nomad]

Move lacks quality Move only titles. It has no hit on it's hands. Yes you can use it for games like Killzone 3 and Socom 4, but few people do. There is no killer app for the device. Sorcery is nowhere to be found. That could have been it's killer app. That's my main complain about Move, it lacks something credible that was designed strictly for the device.

In comparison at least things like Dance Central, Kinect Sports, Fruit Ninja, Gunstringer are fun. Plus there are better games on the way like Rise Of Nightmares, Draco and Ryse. Sony should have planned a little better, maybe put some of those developers to work on some quality titles.

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@ cooperdnizzle
I haven't used mine since I won the damn thing. 8 million what sold? I mean Sony tracks things awfully sketchy with the whole "Shipped" vs "sold" crap, not to mention they count each Wand and Nav controller as a "Move" sale. Look at Move only title sales and you get what I'm saying. When your best Move title only pushes 21k your in trouble. I would guess the actual install base to be 2.5 million and of those probably half don't even bother with the lack of quality games....

[cooperdnizzle]

Nobody uses the move huh? 8 million sold and nobody uses it. I want to know how you know that. O you pulled it out of thin air. Me and all my friends like using the move with games such as socom, killzone, heavy rain. And you say they have no game that uses it as its that is a move only game. Here just pretened that heavy rain is a move only game. There ya go. Do the same with killzone, do the same with socom. Just cause you have the option of using the move doesn't mean that it is not devolved for. All sony would have to do in you're logic is come out with this games and say hey you can't use a dual shock anymore cause these are move exclusive. That is pretty stupid.

[Bigpappy]

Nah cooper! we al know most Move fans own at least 2 and many own 4 Moves. So 3 to 5 mil is a more reasonable estimate of install base that 8 to 11 mil. Raven make a lot of sense.

[DigitalRaptor]

And guess what? You can play through the entire game with the device with utmost motion control, be more physically involved in the experience without losing control, and gameplay is not sacrificed because of it. That's what core PS3 gamers care about, not silly gimmicks that are empty distractions and marketed as the "next big thing".

You can bet your bottom dollar that 'Infinite' will be of immaculate quality, and unanimous GOTY next year. That is huge for Move... you know this!

All it takes is one! Once developers/publishers see and get inspiration from others, there will be no holding back. The fact such a prestigious studio as Irrational games would take the time out to focus on Move and implement it into their masterpiece means much more than your troll tactics ever will.

It's been like this all generation with you 360 guys. If it doesn't sell 5 million in a month, it's a flop... -.-

[Bzone24]

"It's been like this all generation with you 360 guys. If it doesn't sell 5 million in a month, it's a flop... -.-"

You do realize that this article is from a Sony fansite and they are the ones calling the Move a failure.

[GrandTheftZamboni]

@BZone

You do realize that he replies to Raven_Nomad who has nothing to do with the article?

[KingSlayer]

"In comparison at least things like Dance Central, Kinect Sports, Fruit Ninja, Gunstringer are fun. Plus there are better games on the way like Rise Of Nightmares, Draco and Ryse. Sony should have planned a little better, maybe put some of those developers to work on some quality titles."

Are you serious? 5 of the 7 games (one a mobile port) aren't even out and you have zero idea how they play...yet they're "better games"? You are biased as all hell.

[from the beach]

We're assuming they'll be good based on the pedigree of the teams making them.

Twisted Pixel have made solid games all gen, with Gunstringer taken from what was the best part of Comic Jumper.

Rise of Nightmares is from Sega's House of the Dead Team, no doubts it'll be great.

Steel Battalion and Project Draco - the two franchises are about as hardcore as it gets. The new games are by From and Grounding, which is the former Panzer Dragoon team. Again, quality developers and high expectations.

Then there's Codename D from Grasshopper, Konami's Leedmees on XBLA, Ryse by Crytek and of course Rare and Lionhead's games.

That's a good lineup, IMO. Do you think it isn't?

[KingSlayer]

Twisted Pixel has made some good games, sure, but seeing the GunStringer in action doesn't impress. Rise of Nightmares doesn't look good at all. The enemies don't look particularly scary or rendered well, but until I play it I can only base my opinion on what I see. Steel Battalion was originally a game that had a controller with two control sticks and around 40 buttons. I do not expect the Kinect version to amount to very much. Project Draco doesn't look good...mainly b/c nothing but a pre-rendered trailer has been shown. Leedmes is lemmings, Ryse look interesting, but isn't it on-rails too? Codename D could be great, could be shit. Suda makes games the mainstream don't clamor to get, so I expect the same with this. Rare hasn't made a game I've enjoyed since Kameo. Lionhead hasn't made a game I've liked yet.

[Jihaad_cpt]

Raven please tell me where are all the Kinect only games that are so great? Just because Sony is not forcing developers that makes this a failure?

[WhiteLightning]

It still sold alot without 500 million dollars advertising.

I don't think the Move has failed I just think Sony is focusing more on core gaming and trying to give us the best possible exclusives they can. Plus they have Vita to worry about.

[MrDead]

So about 1 in 5 PS3 owners have one..... and thats a fail?

[zero_cool]

I own playstation move as well!

[NotSoSilentBob]

Kind of funny that they want the hardcore games for move yet they do not mention Killzone3, MAG, and Heavy Rain. Just the 3 off the top of my head that you get 2 games for the price of 1. Yes you can play with the Move or you can play with a DS3. Either way they are hardcore games that have Move support.

[Simco876]

The Move failed? Who cares....

Keep bringing me the games I love, and 10 motion control ideas can fail... I don't even care.

[Ace_Man_6]

It's a shame really, I've got the PS Move and for the past couple of months it's been picking up the dust :(

[ElementX]

Same. Waste of money IMHO

[Whackedorange]

I wish i could ues the move controller for the wii since i think it look way more sexy than the boring wii controller

[GamerGuy153]

The Move has honestly sold plenty of units for the amount of games and advertising that it has. True, it may not have many good "Move Required" games but in all honesty the Kinect doesn't either. It has Dance Central but that's about it, while the rest are weak casual games. But unlike the Kinect where the "Kinect-Compatible" support equates to nothing more than being able to look at a car or have the game talk to you, the "Move Compatible" support is incredible and offers compelling reasons to purchase one. Examples- Killzone 3, Socom 4, Resistance 3, and LBP 2 when that incredible Move pack comes out for it.

[ElementX]

PSLS said something negative about Playstation?

[Just_The_Truth]

it's good to be honest

[archemides518]

two things:

1. sony, how hard is it to come up with a game where you swing the move controller around like a sword? and i mean ANY game? even a crappy game would do compared to what we have right now, which is nothing. that would sell like crazy, just make sure it also uses the nav controller or dualshock to move around.

2. PSLS, what happened? weren't you just teasing that you knew about a "triple-A move exclusive title that has yet to be announced" not too long ago??? did you heard from the same inside source that it was cancelled? or were you just full of crap???

[MetalProxy]

Strange I was playing some Heavy Rain last night and iam really enjoying it alot more than using the DS controller. Iam sure if all they where doing was focusing on Move games, people would still bitch and complain. Sony has alot on there plate. Give them some time and i have a feeling they will surprise us...me

[trollkill]

To be honest with you many games with added move support are great and better than most games that are specifically made for motion control so i dnt knw what all the whining is about.

[trollkill]

The funny thng about these hater comments is tht most games with tacked on move abilities or not solely move required are better and use motion control better thn every kinect game mentioned lol which is shamefull on microsoft part. Socom 4, kz3, res evil, and other move enabled games plyed with move literally shit on kinects garbage games and motion control on rails lol and lol at star wars mention lol

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Indeed.

You can play PS Move against DS3 Players in Core games. Unlike Kinect.

[insertcoin]

Sony already admitted that they didn't spend enough time one product, be it the PSPGo, PlayStation Move, Blu-ray, or the PS3. It's not that the Move is a terribly product (Sony hardware is rarely the issue) but the software and support for their hardware sometimes just isn't there.

[TheGamingArt]

BWHAHAHAHAHA, Sony and no software support. You're a laugh.

[GoldPS3]

The motion hype is fading. Wii had the most success with it. I think Sony don't like to make gimmick party games. They tried it to get the move sales going. Sony will bring more games tho. Sorcery should be good. I also think adventure games are best with move. If Sony could get Crash and Spyro back, they would be great move only games.

[tiffac]

I think the problem is people are looking at Move as a console release like what MS did with Kinect.

Sony is treating the Move as an add-on. So there won't be too much AAA games that will be created dedicated to the Move.

Sony is focusing on 1st/3rd party devs to make games with the Move as an optional controller instead.

[Mike_Tha_Hero]

Sony is trying too hard to do what Nintendo couldn't, which is incorporate motion controls into already established games.

No ones interested in playing NBA 2K11 or LBP2 with the Move control set, and like others mentioned there needs to be more games dedicated to the control scheme, rather than just squeezed into other games as a side-option.

[slayernz]

complete fail of an article....anybody play kz3 with move + sharpshooter on a 3d projector and youll see what i mean

[RevXM]

Move Only titles can be cool. Sorcery looked awesome.
Im most interested in core titles though.
Thats where the move shine, I dont have one yet but it is responsive and accurate. its a controller with buttons!, with gyrosensing, a camera that tracks your movement of a lit up ball on the controller, a Mic, rumble, trigger and the chuck controller got a analog(you can use a DS3 instead of the chuck = awesome).

Kinnect is all for the gimmicks most of wich could have done with a regular web cam or a mic.
Its not veryresponsive or accurate.
And its expensive.

Kinect is a tacky expensive toy peripheral... Move is a real controller fit for core gamers and casuals alike.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

And this is what I am talking about RevXM... You say its cool...you say it responsive and accurate...but what is the most telling thing you said in all your rant?

"Thats where the move shine, I dont have one yet but it is responsive and accurate."

All I heard from your rant... I don't have one yet.

[btk]

lol
Then Kinect must be what? Circle in the drain? HD-DVD equivalent of motion gaming?

Move is great. Has some great games - and a lot more potential than Kinect. Kinect just has press releases every three months trumpeting great things to come.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

potential is only good if you do something with it. Move has potential.... So now what?

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Its funny because given the tech and promise of integration you would think the Move would have been a slam dunk. But clearly its not been the case.

I think a big part of that issue comes from how Sony has approached Move. Its an add-on controller that plays with some games and has a few exclusive experiences. Sony approached this timidly. They did enough to support in terms of "adding" support...but from an overall company feel...Move is not the direction they are moving to. So as a consumer I have no confidence that Sony really wants to support Move.

You look at Kinect and whether you like it or not...you fully understand Microsoft is behind it now that its launched. Kinect is absolutely part of the MS future and consumers know it. You can buy with confidence that it will be supported.

Nintendo enjoyed the fact that their system had the controller from the get go. The wii-mote and nun-chuck is the Wii...consumers didn't have a choice nor a worry that games would support.

Back to Sony... Move control support will not be enough to sell consumers on Move. Why isn't Sony promoting Move Only games as AAA top tier games? And the answer, it appears, is that Sony doesn't want to take the chance on making a big budget Move only experience that would drive consumers to buy it. If they wont support it...why should consumers?

[InTheLab]

The alternative would be for Sony to focus solely on Move and we end up with 2 or 3 great exclusives instead of 2 or 3 plus 10 good exclusives.

I think the real problem is not the lack of Move specific titles. It's the fact that 3rd party support has been very poor. For instance, there's a Wii version of CoD but CoD does not support Move. CoD might be a bad example because people will buy it with or without Move support, and we know Acti won't be going the extra mile for the PS3.

Perhaps that will change once Bioshock Infinite drops. As it stands, it's the only high profile title with Move support that's not a Sony made game.

[cstyle]

Move has basically no software support. Now i bet sony is having second thoughts about going with tech like kinect. Sucks to be them.

[sdplisken]

Motion control in general is a crock of shit IMO

wii- crap
kinect- 2x crap
move- just as much crap

[frankymv]

sony is more focused on 3D instead of move. 3D has also been a semi bust.

[AutoCad]

Played it with Socom 4 and its pretty terrible...
Hopefully, there isnt a video of me using this garbage on youtube making a fool of myself.

[HowarthsNJ]

Check out this video

[IaussieGamer]

Yet another anti Sony article. Yawn

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

Move IS amazing tech. Way better than Kinect in my opinion. But when I ONLY see Kinect and NEW GAMES for Kinect being advertised ALL THE TIME. It's not surprising at the flop Move has been for months now...

Move NEEDS games and it NEEDS them bad... I know I wish I had held off on getting 2 moves/nav's myself. Had I not had one and been reading this article now, I'd be patting myself on the back for not diving in so fast...

[gaden_malak]

Needs a Star Wars game for it. Or a sword fighting game. Or Sorcery to come out. It would be perfect.

[zero_cool]

resistance 3 is move & 3D enabled & im sure more core games will be move enabled through out 2012 & beyond watch & see!

[NarooN]

It failed? The thing sold like a few million or over a million units, didn't it? I don't have one and don't really want one due to the lackluster implementation in most games, and the move-only games so far all suck. But yeah, it's a success financially, just not software-wise to me. Some people love the thing though.

[zero_cool]

Also the playstation move has only been out less then a year & more game studio's skepticism is fading away & their becoming conference is growing towards move as more core games surface & im willing to bet 2012 is playstation move's year of reckoning.

[JonnyBigBoss]

I love Move itself, but the support needs to improve. Playing Sports Champions, LittleBigPlanet 2, and Killzone 3 were all extremely fun with Move, but it needs an exclusive, killer app!

[squeeb]

I have yet to try KZ3 with it...seems cool...but ya since i bought my two move controllers they pretty much have sat under my TV for the last year collecting dust.

I'll have to pickup the gun mod at some point.

[Leviathan]

I prefer my move over my kinekt. Not that it matters...at least my move Controller HAS games attached to it :)

[Flummoxxed]

It's not hard to figure out. The motion controller was new and fresh with the wii, but everyone played it and was burned out on it by the time the move and kinect were introduced. It was a fad and we're all over it. Sony and Microsoft were too late to the party, and hopefully they'll figure it out and dump these gimmick controllers and focus on regular games.

[SnukaTheMan]

I only want ps3 exclusives only thank you.

[Kakihara]

I agree but to be fair motion controls in general are a bust. The Wii sold well because non-gamers heard about the motion controller and were excited by the concept. Once Microsoft and Sony got round to bringing out their versions, the hardcore gamers realised what a limited experience motion controllers are and the casual gamers didn't bother upgrading because they already bought their Wii and that was enough for them.

Still though I enjoyed Sports champions and would still like to see a few more games come out for the Move that don't just use it as a lightgun.

[axisofweevils]

This should give everyone food for thought about PS3+Vita being able to replicate the Wii U.

[SteveSmith]

No matter how good the Move is, PS3 players are the kind of people not interested in that kind of gimmick.

[Jdub895O]

Motion gaming is a bust period! Its just a phase.

[Knightofelemia]

I wish Sega would port over Mad World from the Wii to the Ps3 I would give it a whirl. The problem with the Move is that its not being marketed right atleast some games are compatible with it like Heavy Rain and Killzone 3 and maybe Resistance 3 wich are great atleast you can try shooters out with the Move. And that Sony Allstars game with Sly Cooper and Jack and Daxter is a great game I enjoy playing it. The thing I am surprised about when it comes to the Kinnect is the fact Microsoft has not released a patch to try out Halo 3 or Halo Reach. I would not mind trying out a shooter game with the Kinnect instead of kid friendly games. The Move is not a bust its just poor marketing on Sonys part.

[ForROME]

Agreed, to me, Move was just so MS could not take the entire market, they knew they would lose.

Its like when Blu Ray came out, MS knew HD DVD would not win, but you cant let them have the market right away, to buy yourself time

[gypsygib]

Nothing about Move at E3 was disappointing.

[IHateYouFanboys]

anyone with half a brain knew that move would be dead in the water from the get-go simply because sony seemed hesitant to make "Move Only" games. by going this route, they can only make games that are playable with the DS3 as well as Move, meaning theres no real reason for people to get a Move.

Kinect on the other hand, you cant play its games with a controller. if you want to play them, you have to use kinect.

[P_Bomb]

Sure you can use a controller. Child of Eden says hi. Or it would if anyone actually bought it.

What you do need for Kinect are consistent lighting levels, whereas you can play Dead Space Extraction with the Wii-mote and Move in pitch blackness. When the sun goes down, so does my friend's Kinect. Brings new meaning to the term "timed exclusive". :o

[stragomccloud]

They really should have required it for games. If you don't enforce it, it won't be adopted. Like Nintendo and Wii motion plus. They really should have enforced that thing. Even if the games that use it only use it for gestures, it will still be a lot more accurate, just having the support.

[Ethereal]

I disagree.

[jessupj]

I tried Dead Space extraction and the shoot. It was always horribly inaccurate. I know others have managed to calibrate properly and report having an awesome experience, but that just wasn't the case for me.

I was expecting the move to be 100% accurate, I expected to look down the gun sight and see the cursor on the tv precisely lined up. It didn't. I spent a good hour or more trying to calibrate it with fruitless results.

I don't see the point of playing those games when I can't aim it myself, I have to completely rely on the cursor.

I quite disappointed with the move.

[P_Bomb]

Gotta call shenanigans. I platinumed Dead Space Extraction on the PS3 using Move and it was uber-accurate, even in pitch black. Very sensitive to the point that it picks up any unsteadiness or shakes in your hand. Quickest calibrate ever, just point it at the screen and press the PS button, even in the pause menu.

[jessupj]

I did that contantly. I would keep the move perfectly still and I could see the cursor moving along the screen, it was very very dodgey.

[Hozi89]

Having Move only game is foolish. Why would Sony want to make it Move only when they can make it for Move and Controller in one? Wouldn't it be better to have both options? Sheesh people would start complaining that SONY is abandoning non move gamers for Move only gamers...

What Sony needs to do is get the games they showed us for MOVE out soon and bring Move Support to TES:SKYRIM.

P.S.-All Move game should allow the player to map his own controller config to the device.

[kamakaz3md]

The move isnt a system seller, its a perk. If you want to use it for ur games, then do so. Id rather it be a perk then be what M$ is trying to do with kinect. Be smart before you post , k thanks...

[Optical_Matrix]

Well to be honest, Sony and MS were too late. Being a day one Wii owner as well, I don't give a shit about motion controls anymore. For me the novelty wore off in 2007. MS and Sony were 3 years too late in my opinion. When I play my Xbox 360 and PS3, and even my Wii now, all I want to do is sit down with a controller and play without any gimmicks involved.

[naiyo]

I see the move as an upgrade from Dual analogs controllers like what shoulder buttons, rumble, analog triggers and analogs sticks. When it is in more popular games like CoD, BF3, UC, AC, GTA etc. then more ppl will give it a chance and accept it. Making a move only game isn't going to help sell move. If that was true RedSteel 2 and the Conduit should have sold better. Popular known franchises with unique move controls, no half ass idea with rails(RE: UC shit), is the only way for true success.

[WitWolfy]

God more fanboys here then actual opinions

[videoxgamexfanboy]

Is the move a bust? Guess that depends. If u own a ps move and u never use it then yes its a bust, but if u use it often then no i would say its not a bust. Personally i dont own a ps move so i cant say one way or the other. Im not a big fan of this motion control fad but i do see the value in it. I own kinect and i hardly use it so for me its a bust bit my 5 yr lil girl loves it so it does come in handy. I say decide for urself if move is a bust dont let others decide for u...

[Bolts]

A complete bust. I bought it to use as a "mouse like" controller for the PS3. There is nothing mouse like about it. As a FPS controller it blows.

[onenut]

Sony needs to stop the Make.Believe bullshit and start to Make.Shit.Happen

[RAmar101]

Dick article, move is a good option for ps3 gamers as long as games are released with move support it will continue to sell. I can't wait for child of eden

[matey]

I just think Microsoft came into the games industry and used hard money to buy there way in i mean sony/nintendo did it the hard proper way mainly Nintendo but Microsoft just get 100's of thousands of $ out 4 exclusives ect something un heard of untill Microsoft started out i think MOVE failed because Microsoft is paying devs to support there Kinect when in all essence MOVE/MOTION+ are better 4 all games in my opinion but yeah Microsoft have paid there way into the games industry in fact it just shows that any company Apple 4 example could do a home console with 99% 3rd party content and do very well at least Iwata has said they have had there wallet out 4 exclusives 4 3DS/WiiU but wont discuss them until TGS11.

[Kee]

I think that the problem sony failed to understand is that a lot of hardcore gamers aren't interested in motion control.

Sure, some are, but the reason the move flopped is because they haven't shoved it down anyone's throat, like they claimed they weren't going to do.

I mean all the casual gamers who want motion control are happy with their wii, so why would they want the move. So there. You have 2 groups of gamers who don't want the move.

[Bolts]

There is nothing wrong with motion controls as long as it is good for core games. Too bad it sucks for core games. I tried to use it for Killzone 3 and after three days Of wasting both my time and money I tossed it in the closet and went back to my pad.

[Daves]

I don't understand, for me it's a magic silk wand, my aim is spot on, unlike with dual shock. I guess it's down to playing position and set-up.

The default config is rubbish.

[unicronic]

The article, sadly, is spot on. Move hardware is sound but gaming support has been very lukewarm to date.

[unicron7]

I'm glad that the device is always optional and doesn't force you to play with it. Oh, it also does what it's supposed to. Work.

[Michael-Jackson]

There's no killer app PSMove only game so that's why I don't have one. Sadly I don't think we will be seeing any.

[Daves]

Killzone 3 is killer :) for me.

[lionelglitchy]

who really cares

[SpinalRemains138]

Good. The sooner this motion horseshit goes the way of the Dodo, the sooner devs and Hardware manufacturers can get back to focusing all their efforts on to real games again.

[Garethvk]

At this point the lack of games has hurt both. That being said at least you can play shooters on a Move and with 8 Million units sold as of April 2011 it is hardly a bust.

[punisher99]

I'd like to know where did this thing come from, that it has to be a "move only game" in order for it to be a great game??? Look. The PS3 is not a casual gaming machine. Its not a machine for people that don't normally play games. they are not desperately trying to attract the grandmas and grandpas and people that said the last system they bought was an atari. The PS3 has great games that can be used fully with the move by itself without the use of a dualshock. And considering how well move is selling, its definitely not a a bust.

[Wintersun616]

No matter what games come for Kinect, it will always be a failed gaming gimmick to me and I can't enjoy playing on it, because of the nature of gameplay it has. I've tried a few games like Dance Central, Kinect Sports and Child of Eden, and I didn't enjoy them on any level, because I found the controls frustrating and laggy. Thus IMO it doesn't matter what games come for it, it's a big fat failure without buttons. Naturally there are people who really enjoy Kinect, but for me, a hardcore gamer, Kinect will always be a failure.

Move on the other hand improved on the dualshock controls and it's easy to play with even in more complex games, which require more complex controls. Therefore in my eyes Move is the winner here.

[ChronoJoe]

I disagree.

Move only, AAA titles would just split their fanbase, and annoy existing consumers. Like how Microsoft has done with Kinect. Less core 360 exclusives, more Kinect 360 exclusives, it sucks.

[DA_SHREDDER]

The move would have be perfect if it had an analog stick on it, and the Navigator controller had its own glowing ball.

[Daves]

I can't / don't want to play Killzone without the Move, it's the equivalent of mouse and Kbd for PS3 for me.

[Hallow]

I barely use my move, for me I guess the novelty wore off. It's not a failure if they succeeded in getting my money for it tho.

[charmer]

until sony can come up with some innovation of their own they will be out of the gaming business first cause vita is getting ready to lose to 3ds after the first two years

[OooHJohnny]

360 owners are more easily brainwashed, that's it.

[MoonConquistador]

I think Unicronic came closest to drawing from the article why it isnt selling as well as Kinect, and is partly right

"The article, sadly, is spot on. Move hardware is sound but gaming support has been very lukewarm to date."

I think its more 3rd party integration required in some of their core titles. Why hasnt sony offered their own code and routines for implementing it into the big FPS like BF 3 or MW 3. Sony said themselves that the reason eyetoy wasnt as successful as it should have been was due to the way they supported it. They have learned their lesson in part with a lot of 1st party support for core titles, but 3rd party not as much

[Killman]

The move may not have its own killer app, but it certainly is compatable with some, unlike another certain device, which has neither.