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State of Gaming '11: The Xbox Brand

Nerds on the Rocks continues its series, State of Gaming, by looking at where Microsoft and the Xbox stand in the current generation. Nerds on the Rocks also glazes into the crystal ball to see what the future may hold for the console.

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LeonhartX4656d ago

i think they will stay in a steady pace until the end of this generation

firemassacre4656d ago

there pace has changed dramatically since the last 2 years. they've gone almost full blown casual. so the face is different from when the 360 launched and now.

GameTavern4656d ago

I don't think focusing on Kinect would be a huge problem if they did it correctly.

But it seems like they are content to send out games for the device, once a year, and that will appease the masses.

They need to work on having a more well-rounded release schedule in general.

IAmTheTruth4656d ago

Sony's gonna pass Microsoft and bump them to third place where they belong.

Microsoft cant sell like trash in Japan and Europe and have it not catch up to them.

HaloSpartan4655d ago

They aren't selling bad in Europe. PS3 will stay last place forever like they have been the last 5-6 years. Reasons are poor marketing,poor u.s sales which is the biggest and most important market. They let Microsoft figure out the console industry,it's all trouble from here and in the future.

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AO1JMM4655d ago

Whats your point? So Sony will eventually pass Microsoft and its xbox, How many years later? Eventually MS will launch its next XBOX and Sony will be behind yet again.

Fanboy!

ilikegam3s4655d ago

You know the US market is the world's largest, so it doesn't matter for Europe and Japan, even though it would be a good thing.

OT: If the US market fails then the whole world is in debt/screwed, aka global recession.

HaloSpartan4655d ago

@Apophis -headstart was years agoo. ps2 had a one year headstart on xbox 1 and you didn't see people complaining. They had years to still catch up and didn't. 360 is still ahead in UK and continues to outsell ps3 there. UK is the biggest market in Europe. Point is ps3 is in last place WW till this day and will remain there.

firemassacre4655d ago

@HaloSpartan

"Point is ps3 is in last place WW till this day and will remain there."

BS how come when the 360 came out it had a lead of 8 MILLION on ps3 and now some type of voodoo magic happens and the ps3 is only 2-3 MILLION behind?

when something sells better is the gap supposed to increase? or decrease? nevermind do not answer that im sure you could not figure it out.

in short yes the ps3 is OUTselling your xbox360. year on year. disagrees will not change this fact.

Tito084653d ago (Edited 4653d ago )

I don't play sales anyways, when it comes to the games, I think PS3 has the upper hand, and you know it, keep playing your Halo as your username indicates... Look at the Wii, has a bigger install base, but the games aren't there with the exception of the first parties, 3rd party games don't sell well on Nintendo platforms except a few.

Microsoft's heardstart was at the expense of bad hardware and the consumers, releasing it very soon to market with hardware failures was a huge mistake in their part, you're using the PS2 as an excuse to make your point when in reality it was competing with the Sega Dreamcast at the time it released!!!!! You and Microsoft can keep your headstart and sales for all I care!!!!

GameTavern4655d ago

How did this turn into a discussion on whether Sony or Microsoft will come in 2nd this generation?

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv722d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle2d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18812d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio2d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771d 23h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga2d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721d 16h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19921d 11h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21832d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga2d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1d 17h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus231d 23h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721d 23h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier1d 11h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan1d 3h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1012d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1d 22h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac2d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1012d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic2d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1d 22h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere3d ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN3d ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos3d ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN3d ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo3d ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies3d ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger3d ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic3d ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows902d ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger1d 20h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto3d ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos3d ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long3d ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator3d ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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‘It’s been really painful’: Ex-Lionhead devs explain why they’ve announced, and shelved, a new game

An independent UK developer says it’s been forced to announce and postpone its game on the same day, and lay off more than half of its staff, due to the sharp downturn in investment in the games industry.

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