Why I think Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 is a great idea

Jake from needmoremana.com, a long time fan of the MvC series wants more added to this years blockbuster!

[Shok]

Why I think this article is a stupid idea:

This is pure cash-in. They did the same thing with SSF4. And if Capcom keeps succeeding with this, more companies will follow, further screwing us gamers.

[waltyftm]

Well said.

[RockmanII7]

$40 for 12 characters, 8 maps, and rebalancing is a good deal. If you don't like it just stick with MvC3 they're not forcing you to upgrade.

[hamoor]

which all of them should be included in the original mvc3

i mean did you ever heard about a game that got LESS content than it predecessor?

[Larry L]

I DO think Ultimate MvC3 is a good idea. In fact I think it's a great idea. What's NOT a great idea however, is ONCE AGAIN not putting in the characters people actually WANT and have demanded, when you have such a perfect chance to do so. (of course this is ASSuming on my part that the leaked full roster is true, in fact I even suspect it's not completely accurate, a ruse on Capcom's part perhaps.)

[maniacmayhem]

Too funny the logic of some people. So we paid 60 for half a game and now an extra 40 for the full...?

I fail to comprehend the "good deal"

[VileAndVicious]

your absolutely right Rockman it IS much cheaper than having to pay 5 bucks per new character. I agree that it seems like a good idea all around. New Stages,new characters, a rebalancing of gameplay.

But for some reason people didnt want any characters as DLC as they feel as though ALL the characters should have been included in the first place.So because people feel as though "Oh well Mvc2 had more characters Mvc3 should as well." They should NEVER add anymore characters as DLC. That makes alot of sense...

Lets not forget that making video games IS a business not a fan service. Sure adding extra content is nice when its free but I dont understand why people feel they are entitled to it. Its completely optional both in part of the devloper and the consumer. Capcom isnt holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy the Ultimate edition fact is you dont have to.

Ps. Oh and Hamoor Tekken 4 had less characters than Tekken 3 did. And Street Fighter Alpha had less than Street Fighter 2.

[tiffac]

I think the Ultimate edition is not a bad idea, the release date is though.

Capcom should have wiated for a year or so before releasing the next Ed.

Early adopters felt betrayed because of early release date than any other factors.

[JaymizNMM]

Which would rather have...

To pay for 12 characters, stages, modes and costumes for a huge sum

or

pay a much smaller price for all these things.....

[hamoor]

i would like mvc3 to be a complete package from the first place then they can add what they want after that!

it is so bare-bones and got LESS characters than mvc2!!

at least when super street fighter iv came nobody complained because SFIV itself was very good and full of content worthy of your hard earned money!

[Ddouble]

While i agree that it is a bit bare bones, you can't compare the roster size.

MVC2 ported sprites from other games while each character in MvC3 has a 3d model and were all built from scratch. Even the leaked characters haven't been finished yet.

Like you said if the game had the other features and they just added the 12 characters then i think more people would have welcomed it.

[T3MPL3TON]

@Jaymiznmm

Neither, I'd rather they stop trying to nickel and dime us and put all the characters in the game in the FIRST PLACE.

The only reason they even keep doing this is because people keep being dumb enough to allow it. MVC3 wasn't worth the original price of $60 it damn sure ain't worth another $40.

[zerocrossing]

Im not saying Capcom shouldn't have made Ultimate MVC3 but they definitely should have made the additions available as DLC for those who purchased the original MVC3.

[CrescentFang]

I'm pretty sure a lot of the hate stems from the cancellation of a certain game... (if you know what I mean) and then Capcom announcing shit like there's no tomorrow lol.

[hamoor]

if there is anything worse than capcom greed... then it is people who are happy to get scammed by them!

mvc3 was sooo barebones and it lacks a lot of features that a lot of fighting games had.
hell! even super smash brawl got a lot more content and replay value than mvc3!

[DA_SHREDDER]

Being someone who bought this game day one, I feel taken advantage of and I'm totally devastated that this title makes the version I paid for (with interest I might add) totally obsolete and irrelevant. I cannot even fathom they would consider not making this something I can download. It's things like this that makes me not want to buy anything new again. It makes no sense buying day one if I'm always having to buy the other half of the game for another full game price. Yes I know its 40 bucks, but thats thew whole point. I can get the full version months later for the same price if I'm just patient. This only makes me that much more reluctant in the future.

[AKissFromDaddy]

I don't like what Capcom is doing but a CEO's primary objective is raising the value of its shares for sharholders. News about strong profits do just that supplementing that the shareholders get a nice chunk of the profits as well.

A private company like Valve, doesn't have to nickel and dime customers to make great quarterly earning for its investors and that is why Valve is the most respected and arguable, the most loved entertainment software and technology company in the business.

I don't like this as a gamer (Street Fighter IV was the last game I purchased from Capcom) and I show it with my money but I can't imagine the pressure of having a job that depends on an ability to make huge quarterly profits and not pissing customers off.

EA, Capcom, Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft etc are in the business of making as money as often as possible for as little as possible for their shareholders or Executives will be replaced with someone that can.

[wenaldy]

Why are you still supporting Crapcom???

[vglulz]

I'm only happy about this game because I never bought MvC3 and now I can do so and get to play as Phoenix Wright. For anyone who's already payed for the game though, this is an absolute rip off. What happened to DLC?

[kornbeaner]

I'm going to play devil's advocate here. The reason why this is happening is because "Gamers" demand it to be this way. When MvC3 was in development and being released people couldn't get enough of it and couldn't stop saying "We need this game now" and seeing as Capcom does not have that many successful IP's, they made a very craft business decision. They stopped development early, polished it as much as they could (or felt was necessary) and released it to our waiting hands and you know what? We bit hard.

The game IMO was not good as a fighter, to be honest I felt it's a great party fighter game easy to pick up, do combos and specials and seeing a bunch of boyhood characters duke it out its a blast. But there is just something missing that keeps it from Greatness (again my views only). And now with people complaining about balance, characters that have gone missing (Mainly Strider) Capcom saw another chance to make some more money to those same people who bought the first game and know what? they'll succeed yet again. Why? Because gamers don't know how to be patient.

If the OG MvC3 wasn't plagued with leaks and people shouting from the rooftops that this game "Looks fine as is and we want it now" than guess what? the game would've spent more time in development getting refined and possibly had included a few more characters that we wanted (Again mainly Strider) and had a later release date. For all we know November could've been the targeted date all along but seeing as people are impatient the game was released to make money and have a successful business quarter and it worked. Now Capcom is releasing what is really an expansion to a game that should really still be in its closing months of development and when its released it will sell another million units and there will probably be talks about another expansion similar to what we see with the SF series and we only have ourselves to blame. People need to learn to how to be patient, if you feel a game is not ready to be bought, then don't buy it. Its that simple. If MvC3 didn't sell as well as it did then 1 of 2 things happens. Support for the franchise gets scraped or they try to recoup the franchise with UMvC3 but they start doing everything possible to make sure the "Ultimate" tag is not just a marketing ploy.

Impatient consumers is what has caused the market to be what it is today. Why do you think there's a Call of Duty game every year? multiple expansions or upgrades to games that released just months earlier, because consumers now-a-days what the latest and greatest super quick and are willing to pay top dollar for the "privilege". What company in their right mind wouldn't release product on a accelerated cycle if it means more money. That's business "take what you can now, because later might be too late."
EA did it with madden in the PS2 days, Activision has done it Tony Hawk, Guitar Hero and now Call of Duty. Capcom is doing it with their Fighters and whatever the next trend is that next company will do the same. Know how we stop that? put your money away and stop spending it on stuff that you shouldn't be paying for. Stop buying map packs, stop buying yearly titles that don't change, stop buying costumes for you characters and stop buying characters, WTF is that all about? These things used to be included back in the day and if not we saw a pretty long development cycle before hand to at least justify the cost in our eyes. The more money you keep giving these companies the more money they will take from you, its that simple.

[AKissFromDaddy]

A bit long, yet its wonderful. Be better if there a HD video with pics and effects to supplement this.

On the other hand, the gamers who play a few games or exclusively play FPSs, sports, and/or fighting games will push back on this message.

[JaymizNMM]

21 comments and it's still not been approved :p