Electronic Arts has it. THQ has it. Warner Bros. has it. Hell, even Sony has it. What’s it, you ask? Answer: an online pass network program.
EA what have you done?? Can anyone confirm that SONY's pass was officially priced at $20 like that article claimed?
I haven't seen any offical confirmation on price for the PSN Pass, just most people speculating that its $10 to $20 seeing how its what others are doing. As for online passes. You can tank Gamestop for companies developing the practice. They make a ton off of used games, and it was only short time till developers and publishers wanted to get a piece of it.
It isn't Gamestop's fault. These companies ALL make sales when stores like Gamestop buy their games in bulk. These companies are just greedy, they want a continual revenue stream from people buying the same game over and over. These devs and publishers don't see a damn cent when you sell your games in a garage sale either, but they'd sure as hell try to prevent anyone from playing them if they could. It's pure greed. They like to play a victim card, but they aren't a victim at all. These devs and pubs don't sell the games directly to the consumer, they sell them to stores like Gamestop who pay for them. They make sales either way. They just want more and are pissed off that Gamestop found a way to generate a consistent revenue stream after the final sale.
A dangerous precedent has been set and continued. The industry we love will continue to take a mile from an inch if we let them just like paying to play online, paying for dlc already on the disk and parts of games being held back to be sold to us at a later date. The moneymen will continue to give it to us in our necks. I understand the devs lose money because of retailers and 2nd hand game sales but im a gamer not a dev and have to care about myself more than them. A secondhand buyer doesnt all of a sudden duplicate the online space taken up by game purchased in the used section. Its one in one out not one plus one so i cant see how this cost the devs any more. It will persuade some to buy brand new but some cant afford that. Gaming is expensive enough without these dirty tricks being thrown at us on top of everything else.
I'm pretty sure the EA pass for Medal of Honor was 9.99 so hopefully it's more in that range.
As far as I know no price has been announced yet.
Ubisoft needs to get rid of Uplay. It's a waste, especially when PSN,XBL, and Steam already exist.
Heck no, not when Uplay offers FREE themes and skins and weapon upgrades upon completing certain tasks.
I will be amazed if Microsoft has the balls to do this after charging for XBOX Live. The back slash for that would be incredible
Is their backlash for Sony? I mean they have PSN+. There is nothing stopping people from playing single player games without a pass or paying for online. Also, you will notice the biggest game franchises aren't doing this, it's the smaller ones. I for one don't feel any sympathy for game companies, if I buy a game and choose to sell it to Gamestop or Ebay or at a Garage sale then people should be able to play the games offline and online.
At least for Socom Sony gave PSN+ users the Socom "pass" for free. So if you have PSN+ you can still buy used games if they go this way forward.
Just like Activision started the $60 game standard EA will start the Game pass standard.. That why I like PC! I have more power to hurt the company or avoid the drms.. These corporations better be good little boys or else.. Look at call of duty! Biggest game ever but they won't spend money on their fans who made them what they are to have dedicted servers & they still make more money each time.. Console players take a lot of crap.. it's sad but hey you guy get the big budget games huh?
PSN+ is not required to play online like it is for XBOX Live & paying to play online. So Sony can get away with PSN+ unlike with what they are doing with their passes
Somebody forgot to tell Raven_Nomad that PS+ is completely optional.
They do these passes on top of xbox live...
Others have said this, and I hate to say it again, because I'm against it, but we had better get used to it. This is not going to go away until companies like Gamestop don't exist anymore (i.e. never). It might be obvious sometimes, and other times it might not be noticeable, but used games generally hurt sales, so this is a way for them to recoup some of that "lost money" as they see it. I'm not a fan of it; I generally wait for Steam or someone else to give me cool deals on games, or I just buy console games I kinda want when they're on sale later. Those games I really want, I will buy full price, but that's not many. Anyway, I don't like it, but it's here to stay.
Ummm is it bad if i wish for an other video game market crash like in 1983??Maybe that would hopefully open up these companies eyes cuz they need us more than we need them?? Give me feed back i'm prepared for everything :D.
I just will not buy a product that does those stupid passes.
Get ready to give up your hobby of gaming.
I would rather give it up...look at Mw3 will not have a pass
. This will effect if people buy a game or not. People look for deals all the time, this is no deal. Many times I've picked up a game used and thought, I have to get the next installment of this game. Add quality DLC to a title and you will make all the money you need, used or not. Borne supremacy, the movie, didn't do so hot in theaters. Then through rentals it developed a cult following and the next movie did great as did the entire series. If they are worried about used game sales, they should make better games. If your game is good it will generate all the sales in the world. What these buffoons are doing are forcing gamers to buy one game and stick with it. Look at COD...a lot of those gamers don't play anything else already because gaming has become too expensive. I'm not paying $60-80 for a game only to not like it and get stuck with it...O_o...what are these guys thinking. Piracy will skyrocket and PC and 360 will as well since they are the default systems. COD will be bigger than ever as will select other titles squeezing out the rest of the market as they play one game and that's it. Watch and see...this will put the industry in a tail spin and the smart pubs out there will skip this and say, buy our games, you can trade them in when you are done. THQ is the worst game pub out there...how dumb are these guys...lol...I guarantee you 3/4 of the people who bought that Homefront game traded it in for something else. If they told those gamers that they couldn't trade it in, they would of skipped the game all together and went back to playing COD...guys like ThQ will lose the most. Sony hitting their exclusives with a 9.99 surcharge if you buy their exclusivesused only hurt their fanbase...dumb move if you ask me.
So would I have to pay for this AND a psn pass?
not if you're purchasing your games new. If you bought your games used, then you'd be paying for those. But if you buy new, then your games come with vouchers for online already.
just like Online Pass only for games published by EA. Uplay is the same for Ubi. they are separate things but serve the same purpose!
Oh! alright. Thanks.
So these online passes shouldn't bother you too much considering it doesn't effect you if you have these games brand new. Every single online pass thus far only effects the used market. EA, THQ, Sony, and Ubisoft's passes won't do anything to you if you're purchasing these games new These passes wouldn't even be around in the first place if it wasn't so many people either pirating games or buying second and third hand used. If people actually supported the developers this probably wouldn't be happening.
wrong. used games have been around from the start. they didn't suddenly appear. this is just pure greed. they sell u a game for $60 or more bucks that's not even complete and in need of numerous patchs/updates, sell u bits of the game(dlc) that last gen was considered "hidden" content and on the disk now it's still on the disk but u have to pay to unlock it. these pubs just want more cash for more boats and high end autos. screw these greedy bastards I hope the backlash is severe.
This is fvfking getting ugly! I wish gamestop would target their games hard to buying it used. I also hate gamestop but I hate this a bit more, not cause I buy games used I don't but now my bro can't go online if I let him borrow it?! I'm seriously about to go pc gaming very soon.. I just don't understand why console players always get the shaft when compared to how pc gamers are treated.
Go tell that to all the PC gamers that get shafted because developers put more time and care into their console counterparts.
More time yes, but more care?! I don't know but last I checked places like steam takes very good care of their ppl and games. Have you ever seen the massive savings Gamers get on a steam sale? Or the kind of free add on most pc games get?! This is bs what they are doing. They should open their own retail store and or online store and comepete with gamestop head on with their game sales or incentives. Pc doesn't get the kind of support consoles get but when pc gaming does get that support they blow consoles out the water in every category, price, performance, graphics, sound etc. IMO the reason for shit like this is ppl like you with the who cares attitude. Did you ever stop to wonder why pc games are cheaper than consoles? and the irony is the games are made on pc's!
Dude please, there's nothing you can educate me on that I don't already know about. And who says "I don't care". I just know the reality of the matter when I see it. The thing is, even with those "savings" you speak of, the console versions of most games still outsell the PC versions pretty badly in most cases. And the PC games are cheaper for a number of reasons. Would you like for me to give you a rundown? And yeah, I said more care. Why don't you take a look at all the multiplatform games that get delayed on the PC in favor of the console versions. You think that's a coincidence?
dude wake the f up consoles are on stage 1 of drm control pc;s are on the final stage next gen i can see console having online to play drm easy. Also this pass stuff has been on pc's sense 2002ish i don't mean register online i mean the code in the case to activate the game. Online activation started 2006ish on pc's.
I don't see how anyone can disagree with him. They've been on the PC longer than many of you realize. And even before 2006 as just_looken said. Remember when you bought your PC games and they had "license keys"? Well, what do you think that was?
***I wish gamestop would target their games hard to buying it used. *** You do know that GameStop relies on developers to make the games that they resell in the first place, right? If GameStop were to go further in their focus on used game sales, they'd be leading the developers to instituting one-time activation licenses or similar with their software, along with requiring them to be installed on the HDD and treating them more like PC games.
"... not cause I buy games used I don't but now my bro can't go online if I let him borrow it?!" I don't know about the 360 but on PSN, you can download the same content multiple times like 3-5 times if I'm not mistaken on different PS3s too. if your bro borrows yours, just sign in with your account on his PS3 and download the pass again. problem solved!
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