Sony Must Announce the PlayStation 4 ASAP

Earlier this week, reports surfaced suggesting Sony would be launching the PlayStation 4 next year. Almost immediately, Sony fans jumped for joy at the news, while Microsoft fans scoffed at the idea. And along the way, Sony hasn’t said for sure what might happen.

Even so, I’m here to tell you (and Sony) that the PlayStation 4 should launch as early as possible next year.

[Prcko]

oh cmon

[alousow]

Sony will not rush the PS4. Just like the previous consoles the nex 1 will be quality

[TurismoGTR]

PS3 is enough till 2014.. We need MAJOR! change before a new system.

[firemassacre]

im too busy playing EXCLUSIVE games to want a ps4 just yet, i cannot say otherwise for everyone else.

have fun playing your many games omi ;p

[omi25p]

Im to busy playing any games. There are so many multiplatforms and exclusives coming out that it would be stupid to announce a new console while the current gen is doing so well.

[BattleAxe]

I'd like to see Sony stay strong with the PS3 for another 2 years, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did release a PS4 sooner than that. This has been the most successful console generation for all console makers, because all 3 consoles have done extremely well, nobody got blown out this time around.

When the PS1, Nintendo 64 and the Sega Dreamcast were competing, the war ended with Playstation destroying the competition with 102 Million units sold compared to Nintendos 32 Million and Segas 10 Million Units. Usually at least one console gets blown out of the water, but that didn't happen this time, so I think a PS4 could be possible...nobody wants to get left behind.

Heres a list of all console sales all the way back to the 80's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

PS: To all you SEGA delusionals out there, check out the sales list and you can see just how poorly Sega did with all their consoles(the Genesis was their only popular console)....they won't be making a comeback.

[MaxXAttaxX]

Most multiplatform games look similar on PC.
We need at least 2 more years before we see bigger leaps in graphics.
Like PS1 -> PS2 -> PS3 leaps.

[TheDivine]

I agree we dont need it yet. I want the ps4 to get all the focus until 2014ish. This gen is just now hitting its sweet spot. Sony needs to be ready though, they cant afford to be last again. The wii u is dropping, if ms beats sony by a year the ps4 will be in a tough position. I hope ms and sony take their time so we dont get rushed consoles and we see a big jump in power and quality. I just now got a ps3 last december and wont get a ps4/720 for years anyways. Both ms and sony need to have all arcade/dlc content be able to transfer and have bc with all games.

[StarWolf]

we couldnt even message people in the psn during a game. the store was ugly and crappy layout with nothing new for months aside from trailers. No XMB during game, no rumble in the controller.

yeah great quality. I payed 600 bucks for it and thankfully R:FOM made it all worth it but CMON now

[Army_of_Darkness]

How many people are actually pushing Sony to release a ps4 anyways!? Lol! It honestly feels like the ps3 is just getting started!
My gf randomly decided to get a ps3 for herself mainly because i showed her how easy it is to use bluray, netflix, web browsing and video chat! That's why she bought one as soon as she seen them on sale at walmart this week for $249 with black ops lol!

[slapedurmomsace]

@battleaxe...The dreamcast wasn't in the same generation with the PS1. They were the first console of the next generation which included the PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube. They were released 4 years apart. I actually agree and hope the delay the launch of the ps4 and next xbox til 2013, however when you start spoutin off at the mouth like that, you make yourself look like an amateur on the topic who heard something from your friend and took it as fact. And also, if you like it or not, the Wii blew the doors off the PS3 and Xbox 360 this generation.

[Saladfax]

@NathanExplosion

Generally, as in most cases follow this trend, multi-plats tend to appear pretty similar to one another regardless of the unit's processing power. Very rarely are there significant differences.

But standard hardware has changed enough since the previous console gen to where an upgrade to latest and greatest (or at least close to it) would create a difference.

Of course, fidelity is getting to the quality point where you're not going to see leaps and bounds as concretely as previous console gens. It'll look better, but not MGS1 to MGS2 better or Final Fantasy VII to Final Fantasy X better.

[BattleAxe]

@slapedurmomsace

Considering the Dreamcast was released in 1998, and was dead in the water before the PS2 even came out in 2000, I would call that the same generation as the PS1, but lets have it your way and put the Saturn in there instead.....it still only managed to sell 10 Million units. So really, Sega released both the Saturn(10 Million Units 1994) and the Dreamcast(10 Million Units 1998) within the same console cycle as the PS1(102 Million Units 1994). Because the Dreamcast died so fast, like it or not it didn't compete with the PS2.

[slapedurmomsace]

@battleaxe..last thing I'm going to say..It was the Saturn..period..and yes it was a fail. However..I do appreciate how you sku that release dates.you obviously did a quick wiki search on the dreamcast..yes it was released in 1998 in Japan..while 09-09-09 was the USA. I can still remember commercials for it. While the Playstation 2 was released in late 2000. So the PS1 was not competing with the Dreamcast generation wise, so your argument goes right out the window there. Furthermore, the Dreamcast was the fastest selling system at the time of it's launch, so absolutely not dead in the water, terrible marketing again ruined it. I can't and will not argue the PS2 was an awesome system, however all I was trying to let you know was, this has nothing to do with the PS3 or the PS4, and that's just fact. And as far as the disagrees to my last comment, really doesn't matter what anyone here thinks, the sales numbers for the Wii, 360 and PS3 speak for themselves. Does matter if you like it, doesn't matter if you think the PS3 has better games, or the 360 has better games. It is was it is, and the Wii spanked the 360 and the PS3 this generation, period. If you if disagree, please give me a fact, not your opinion that states otherwise, because if it's opinion that matters, the PS3 has the best games, the 360 has the best controller, and the Wii the the drunken party system, and that's my opinion so it must be fact.

[hikayu]

@battleaxe

while i was not around while sega was still in the business , i must say that sega didnt do tooo bad in the 80s . they werent that far off from competitors numbers . but anyone looking at the numbers now should be able to see : they seemed to release a console every other year . i know that the dev cycle is shorter back then because it didnt take that long to create an engine and the man power required is much less intensive than now . but who wants to make another investment every year only to outdate the previous console , kill it , every 2-3 years ? it is clear that sega has no strategy approaching the market and their management is a clusterf*ck . they did not know how to invest in their business , how to appeal to their fan or to approach the new audience at all . of course , sega's mistake is sony opportunity .they took that pitiful of a company and shoved the dreamcast up sega's hole .that's how capitalism work , that's how the market works and im glad it did work in this case .

[ConanOBrien]

With current cloud-storage crap buzz going on, console makers should apply some sort of cloud-based anti-piracy methods for its future consoles. Example: game textures must be stored on secured cloud servers, the rest in regular disc. Games must be connected to internet in order to play, while both firmware and cloud servers authorize a 2048bit RSA access key. IF mismatch occures then games can still be played, but you see NO textures at all.

That way, games will be hard to pirate and more gigs of space in disc can be optimized for game contents. Devs and gamers happier.

[DeadlyFire]

Rumors are often misquoted. Launch likely means visually debuted. I am very certain PS4 is coming is going to be at E3 2012 in full form and Release in 2013.

[jadnice]

What with these silly notion that Microsoft and Sony will both release consoles next year. the only console new console to be on the market in 2012 will be the WiiU... that it.

Fanboys need to stop with the pipe dreams.

[ProjectVulcan]

The leap is actually a lot now to those saying it isn't enough and quoting multi plat games. They look similar because lazy devs are not exploiting the PC platform. Those that can be bothered have come up with Battlefield 3 for example. BF3 probably won't even require the highest end hardware to max either by the comments from DICE.

The difference was not long after the previous gen launched we had a good advance in graphics tech and the devs on PC all took advantage of it. Now it costs so much to develop few devs are willing to build what would essentially be a different game for modern PC hardware now with the gap we have. They prefer incremental improvements.

A modern gaming PC with a GTX580 is easily 8 times as fast as current machines, and in six months that gap will only be bigger as next generation GPU launch. As long as the consoles launch with that next gen tech, the gap is enough....

[BeastlyRig]

It's been 5 years! how long does it to make a pc that can't upgrade high quality?

[insomnium2]

@slapedurmomsace

If only this console gen was over you could say the Wii spanked both x360 and PS3. However considering the price PS3 is JUST NOW lowering itself to it really is only starting to appeal to the bulk of the consumers. Do you not remember what happened as PS2 got down to about 200 usd? What about 150 usd?

Once the PS3 has been around the same pricerange as x360 and Wii both are a couple of years then you might have an accurate prediction of the sales this gen.

[Derekvinyard13]

what will be after blu ray? and who will use it.

[blumatt]

I can't see Sony making another disc format for the PS4. It will probably use a 100GB Quad Layer bluray disc and offer consumers the choice to either buy its games digitally (via the PS Store) or on disc (retail stores, WalMart etc.).

The PS4 MIght Continue Using the Cell architecture with just upgraded RAM etc.

I have a feeling that Sony will simply continue using the Cell architecture so that devs. won’t have to re-learn new hardware to develop for the PS4. The PS4 will likely have a 32 SPU Cell architecture with around 4GB of RAM and an upgraded graphics card (possibly still RSX, but maybe something new). The upgraded RAM will help out “lesser” developers like Activision to make pretty games without having to use the Cell. Bluray drives have come down in price significantly. They’ll likely use a quad layer (100GB) BR disc and a 8X or higher read time. Using similar architecture with upgraded components (BR drive and RAM) will help keep the price down and make it easy to develop for.

If developers haven’t figured out the Cell by the time the PS4 comes out, I’d say it’s safe to say that they are lazy. lol That will have been nearly 8 years or so.

Also, another reason why they might continue using the Cell is because Sony bought back the factory that manufactures the Cell chips.

Backward Compatiblity with PS3 games will be a non-issue if they choose this route.

As far as motion control goes, I can definitely see them making an upgraded PS Eye 2.0 that is more “Kinect-like” and offers body only motion gaming. However, I think they’ll continue supporting the Move and not make a new Move controller for the PS4. The Move’s technology is already cutting edge. It’s good to see companies competing for our dollar and making new technologies even better through competition.

The PS4 will also likely make a lot of features standard such as cross game chat, in-game music, a party system, Youtube uploading, etc.

By doing what i just predicted, I can see Sony being able to sell the PS4 for $399, which would be very good for us gamers. The PS Vita is proof that Sony has learned its lesson about using developer unfriendly hardware and pricing their hardware too high.

[blumatt]

I sure wish explanations came with all these disagrees. lol I don't know what I said that you're disagreeing with. Please explain. If you don't have the courage to explain it on here, then message me via PSN. PSN:blumatt

[MasterCornholio]

I dont believe that they will use the RSX again. It will probably be a GPU from Nvidia again. I do agree with you stating that they will use cell because they bought the cell factory a while back. However i really dont see the need for a 100GB bluray drive what i really would like to see is a faster drive though maybe 8X would be nice.

[kneon]

What comes after bluray is more bluray, only bigger, faster and cheaper.

[jony_dols]

@blumatt

That's the PS4 that I want. With a Summer/Fall release window in 2013.

I think that some people are forgetting that after Spring 2012, there really isn't that many high profile games left in this generations pipeline. Hell with the exceptions of The Last Guardian, Bioshock & Halo 4 (all 2012), there isn't much left to look forward to.

I think Sony & Microsoft's lack of big title exclusive announcements at E3 this year, was a clear indication that both companies are preparing for a roll out of new consoles within the next 2 years.

[slapedurmomsace]

crap, can't remember but JVC created some disk that does like a terabyte?? A holodisk maybe??? either way I can't imagine a game that takes more space than a blu-ray can handle, and blu-ray does 3d and the prices are at this point certainly acceptable so there really is no reason to do anything beyond blu-ray, except digital download, and I have shitty DSL that took 8 hours to download infamous...so god help me if we have to go digital only.

[kneon]

@slapedurmomsace

There are a number of companies working on holographic optical storage (including Sony) with capacities into the terabytes. But the road to this tech is littered with the roadkill of failed companies. It is quite a complex technology and is currently only available for niche markets as it's outrageously expensive.

Bluray has been shown to work up to at least 500gb and I've seen researchers speculating that it could some day reach several terabytes. If that happens then holographic disks could be dead in the water unless they can get into the 10's of terabytes with costs comparable to bluray.

[mugoldeneagle03]

I still feel like the PS3 has a few solid years left at least. Agent (if it still exists) and Last Guardian are both a year + away, and those are some pretty big titles.

As for the Move, it's an accessory. And there still hasn't really been a killer title out for it yet. What will happen if they ever make a Star Wars game? If it was PS3 exclusive, I guarantee retailers would be sold out for months.

I also think Sony could revamp the XMB/Interface, drastically if they wanted. Anything new would give it a fresh feel.

I don't expect PS4 talk until 2013 at the earliest from Sony.

[gamingdroid]

Same story, different generation. When a new console comes out with amazing graphics, every hardcore gamer will flock to it like mice to cheese.

It's human nature, you are content until you see something else better!

We need a new generation naow!

[jessupj]

If anyone needs to release a new console for the hardcore it's microsoft.

[ShoryukenII]

Didn't they say that the Playstation Move exceeded their expectations at E3? I just closed the tab when he said that it didn't catch on as they thought it would.

[slampunk]

Of course they would say that.....Did you expect them to come out and say that it was a flunk?! lol

[gamingdroid]

What was their expectations? It must have been very underwhelming....

[ShoryukenII]

It seems to be selling pretty close to Kinect so I don't think he was lying.

[n4gisatroll]

i hate this, why keep writing about how sony must announce a ps4, they will announce it, when they are ready, so stop with all this crap.

[Oxymoron028]

All reports of the PS4 are fake. It's not coming out any time soon, Sony are dedicated to the PS3 and PSV,

move the fuck on already.

[slampunk]

Maybe, although if MS come out with their new console (which they will at E3 2012 with halo 4), then sony will be forced into bringing things forward.....

Sony are throwing new ip's & exclusives at the ps3 to get back the many millions they lost in the beginning of this gen... I commend them for that as it's good for us gamers. Sony should be far more dominant this gen than they are & sony would internally think that aside from a few great exclusive titles, that this gen was a fail from a business point of view.

i just hope they learn from their mistakes....Their has been a lot from sony this time around.....

[Oxymoron028]

Sony won't be forced into doing anything. The PS3 is picking up pace now, and with a large list of exclusives they aren't going to jeopardize that by releasing a new console.

All the people disagreeing are just lying to themselves with wishful thinking. It's not going to happen any time soon.

Also to the reports saying "Sony haven't said a thing about it". Yes they have you're just choosing to ignore it. When Tretton was asked about such rumours he stated about how the PS3 was upping it's pace and that and the PSV are their main focus.

We are still years off from the PS4, just face it.

[DaTruth]

You could easily be correct, but I would take anything Sony says about no PS4 with a grain of salt!

Any talk of a PS4 would obliterate the Vita hype! I don't need a portable gaming system at the moment, but I may still buy the Vita if there are good games; but if a PS4 was releasing next year, I would absolutely not be making a Vita purchase for some time!

[Oxymoron028]

Yeah you are right that the PS4 will overshadow the PSV in some ways, but it doesn't make any sense for the PS4 to exist now.

Not with how much pace the PS3 is gaining, how well it's selling and all the games coming out for it.

Plus the reports are such a cluster fuck surrounding it. It went from being planned to being developed within a couple of months? Not a chance in hell, it won't go into development before prototypes are made and before developers get their hands on a developer kit.

And considering how developers leaked information about the PSV we know they'll leak information about the PS4.

I could put money on the story about the PS4 being in development being false.

[showtimefolks]

i think people forget the kind of investment sony made with ps3 and its only in its 5th year and still selling at 300 bucks and through all the psn attacks was selling better than last year.

I believe ps4 will be the last console out again like this gen i just don't see sony coming out with a new console for just so they can just launch before MS.

expect to hear about next xbox at E3 2012 and launch at 2013 and expect to hear about ps4 at E3 2013 and launch most likely late 2014 to Q1 2015

think about when ps3 will hit 149 or 99 it will sell like crazy and we are 200 dollars away from that price.

and many of sony's 1st party studios have yet to release a AAA title on ps3

[Peaceful_Jelly]

only 5 years? I was still in high-school 5 years ago and I'm almost finishing my bachelor's degree and thinking about starting a family. >_>

I want to play PS4 before my 30's!

[showtimefolks]

so just because of you we should all spend another 400 for a new system really?

go buy a new wii or wait for xbox720 in late 2013 to earl 2013

if you are waiting for a ps4 than wait and while you wait play some of the best exclusives on ps3

[DaTruth]

Don't listen to Tretton; any talk of a PS4 would leave the Vita forgotten, that is why they will do their best to downplay any talk of a PS4!

You don't want to have two new products on the market competing with each other for hype! When the Vita is well established, they can announce Vita cross-connectivity with PS4 to reel in others, with great features like remote play, home to portable gaming and even using the Vita as a controller with a screen like the WiiU... maybe even PS4-Vita bundles!

[trancefreak]

Yeah I do think we are at the point were within at least 2 years will give us a much better technical experience across the board.

Also with cost and longevity for the future consoles.

[subtenko]

Sony dont listen to these lame article writers,lol this is ridiculous xD

[xtremeimport]

I read the title and nothing els.
Laughing....I will not give this fool hits on his site.

[joab777]

I see it differently. They should release it when possible but to build on momentum. It will hav a similar cell processor but much more powerful and now creators are comfortable w it. They have strong exclusives. If it has kinnect and move, itll b the most precise motion control. It has the best 3d tech, and it understands the future of gaming is mobile w the vita. And the mobile links to the psn. If the new ip dishonered released multi comsole next gen but on the ps4 was motion control, real 3d tech, done on the powerful cell processor w at least some if not all of the game being able to b played on the go w vita, which version would u buy? Sony is working on a disc much larger than blu ray but if I were them, id leave it out. Id go digital and sink the momey into the processor and memory allowing a longer life cycle. Include steam or thwir own service and sell a better console for a reasonable price w the ability to buy gamea cheaper than its competition.

[hiredhelp]

Did i just read this right. He thinks be next yeat. HELLO Knock' Knock any sense in that head.

[TBM]

Why I still have a crapload of games to play on the system, and there are more exclusives to come that haven't been released yet?

[wsoutlaw87]

no ones saying you have to stop playing your ps3 and buy a ps4 right when it comes out.

[paladinaz]

Pathetic article.
There is no single valid argument why Sony needs PS4.

[BeOneWithTheGun]

I respectfully disagree. I would love to play Skyrim in 1080p with draw distances and texture mapping that is seen using a high end PC. For me, it's just like my car. I have one and it's nice but I am always eyeing one that has more horsepower, gets better gas mileage and whatnot. It's human nature.

that said, I am quite happy with my PS3. I love all the exclusives that are on it but I would totally shell out some money for a console that ran Infamous 2 in 1080p at 60fps or greater and a 5 terabyte hard drive with movie editors, or something built in.

[wsoutlaw87]

exactly, the ps3 is good but the ps4 will obviously be better. More innovative games will become possible with the ps4. I want games with more power for physics, AI, more players on screen and online,1080p with 3d, and 60 fps. If it comes out next year then ill buy it as soon as it has games and a good deal. And by then i will definitely have gotten my moneys worth on my ps3

[BeOneWithTheGun]

double post

[Pedantic91]

You and what proof mate ?

"The way I see it, the PlayStation 4 will help change the discussion surrounding Sony."

And the PSV ?
Anonunce the PS4 now and it'll be the PSP-PS3 case all over again, the PSV not getting it's attention 2-3 years after it's release.

"Gone will be the days where the company is mercilessly criticized by those who are still upset about the PlayStation Network breach. Instead, people will talk about Sony’s new and exciting console."

If there is one thing ive learned is that there will always those someone who bi*** and moan on just about anything any company/dev does.

"Wii U. That device, which features a really neat controller that might catch on with both casual and hardcore gamers alike, is right now poised for unabated success next year."

That's a good lookin' time machine ya got there, mind if i borrow it ?

[xtreampro_REVENGE!]

My proof for the Move not doing well is the fact that one of my friends who was all over Move decided to get rid of it just recently, and he's reason for doing so is because it basically sucks and pointless.

All motion gaming is stupid and it'll always be stupid, and whoever said Move doesn't have lag is the biggest liar on the planet. The lag is very noticeable even when playing table tennis in Sports Champions.

I can remember before the Move came out I was hyping it up as well, but then I used it and realised it sucks, and personally I don't think the WiiU's going to do good at all.

[fucadastates]

ohh.. so thats proof.. hmm well i have a friends who was hyped as hell for kinect.. they dicided to get rid of it just recently. reason - it sucks and is pointless.. eyetoy 1.5 only kid games and so on.

both kinect and move are selling great (the moves 8.9 numbers may be a bit meeeh because of people buying 2 move controllers.)

[Pedantic91]

Because you thought it sucked.

That sure makes sense /s.

[BattleTorn]

"one of my friends" =/= proof

[bloodybutcher]

one of guys i used to work with said that on a video with collapsing WTC one can clearly see alien spaceship.and i am not even joking.i did not,however,take his words as a proof of such event.

[thekiddfran]

@XTREAMPRO sorry bro I am too busy playing killzone 3, sly trilogy, heavy rain and Socom 4 with my move to read your post.

[M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L]

Uh...no. Just no.

[bloodybutcher]

and at xtreampro,who pm me saying that i should learn how to read-there is something i would say is a proof on psmove not doing bad.
http://www.pushsquare.com/2...
and this is part i am talking about ´´Jack Tretton confirmed that the device has sold 8.8 million units to date, which is certainly not a number to be sniffed at.´´
8,8 million.confirmed by mr J.´´Boring´& ;#18 0;Tretton.could it be a higher number?definitely.could it be less?oh yes.in my opinion it is a considerable amount of sales for a device that was,and still is,described as a dildo.it may not have been great experience for you and your friend,but i know few people who use it with quite few games.so do not write that your and your friend´s disappointment with psmove is proving anything,there is a number of players who like it.

[omi25p]

I dont see why they have to announce it ASAP.

[Jio]

Either way, waiting or soon, I'll be happy

[Arthas]

There's no need for it in 2012. 2013 would be better IMO. 2014 definitely though.

[fucadastates]

christmas 2013 :)

[Mr Tretton]

How is 2013 or 14 better? To give Nintendo a whole 2 years lead?

[colonel179]

Nintendo doesn't count as much since the Wii U is not much better than the PS3/360. The lead won't matter at all. Actually, it could be even worse for Nintendo since the PS4 and Xbox 3 could be much better than the Wii U leaving Nintendo behind technologically-wise again.

The PS4 will be announce at the earliest on E3 2012, but I actually think that it will be announced (talked about) on TGS 2012, shown on E3 2013, and launched on Christmas 2013 (at the earliest)

[CRAIG667]

Why the hell would sony or microsoft cut short of their current gen machines who's hardware/software sales are still massive in order to support the huge investment of realeasing new hardware and alienating current gen users this early in the game.

I have both consoles and neither feel tired to me what so ever,not in the way ps2/dreamcast/snes consoles did when approacing their golden years.

bottom line is,their is still money to be made this gen,and whatver sony/microsoft release is gonna hve to be HUGELY advanced compared to todays already immpressive standards in order to really stand out

[bozebo]

this ^

Also.
At the moment, they can't develop a machine that will perform at the cutting edge to be retailed at a reasonable $300-$400 price. The wiiU's performance is about all they could manage for that price - and it will perform extremely well (like a $650 PC), but not enough for developers to go overboard with amazing graphical advancements as seen in the likes of the samaritan demo.

When the 360 came out, it performed amazingly for the price compared to a PC - and the PC is the benchmark for consumer computing capabilities at a given point in time, so it gives a good overview of what the hardware industry is capable of producing and for what cost.

Also, consoles need to be compact - new graphics chips eat up loads of power, so they are making loads of heat. The problems with heat this gen have already made themselves known with the 360's RRoD issues. More heat = more airflow = more fans, or a larger case for the machine to aide airflow - which would be the quieter option but also the more expensive and less convenient.

Graphics chips are, however, constantly being manufactured with smaller fabrication methods. So in a couple of years it will be viable for amazing performance in consoles, without it being too expensive. I wouldn't be surprised if a console is released which uses a dual graphics chip solution, to spread the heat sources to different locales in the device.

Anyway... Current consoles are fine for a while - they don't need better graphics capabilities yet, but their RAM quantity could be stifling creativity somewhat.

[GunofthePatriots]

No they don't

[SuperSaiyan4]

need new consoles reason being graphics technology is advancing and all PC gamers are doing are constantly ripping us console gamers for old tech. Now the thing is consoles will never be able to keep up with PC's because PC's are upgradeable but at the same time consoles do not need the amount of ram and processing power as PC's because they have to run a full operating system and many other applications.

The ram in the current consoles is not enough 512mb split between cpu and gpu has been pretty impressive up to now but we are not really seeing much advancement.

PS3 has blu-ray so space isnt an issue but if anyone needs to bring out a new machine its Microsoft as DVD is really showing its age.

Look at the exclusives on the 360 example Halo 3, Bungie originally had high expectations for the game to look as it should have with the original E3 video yet we ended up with a sub HD aliased game and wasn't that great. Yet you look at the Sony exclusives and they do look pretty amazing.

Next gen will most likely have USB 3.0 support that is pretty much a certain but ram wise hoping they have at least 2gb DDR3.

[2v1]

all PC gamers are doing are constantly ripping us console gamers for old tech.

had TO LOL

[ClaveroRulz]

The ps3 is fine, Sony is not microsoft, they don't need to rush a console to win.

Mr. Don Reisinger you need to STFU ASAP.

[Morbius420]

then how come they're not winning?

[ClaveroRulz]

Uncharted 3
KZ3
LittleBigPlanet 2
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus Collection
Infamous 2
Twisted Metal
MotorStorm Apocalypse
No More Heroes: Heroes’ Paradise
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
Resistance 3
Yakuza 4

[NLGSean]

The PS3 still has many years of life yet. Look at games like Uncharted 3! They really don't need the PS4 right now. Sony will not be bringing the PS4 out any time soon so get over it. Worthless article.

[crackerface_whitey]

every single one of these sort of articles are absolute shit,
if you've read one you've read them all

[Berserker__1124]

Article is bullshit. Microsoft needs the new console not Sony. Microsoft is the company holding the industry back. With its sub-par DVD format

[NLGSean]

I agree to some extent. DVD is now a thing of the past when it comes to game storage. But Microsoft will ride that Kinect wave until the very end. That and the upcoming television on Xbox Live and you would think that Microsoft won't be announcing anything new soon either... Too much invested in the current 360.

[kharma45]

DVD has been mostly fine for this generation, few games have exceeded its capacity.

[qwertyz]

@Berserker__1124

not dvd but processing power, memory bandwidth and ram same goes for ALL consoles. consoles are now holding back pc development majority of game developers are ready to move on to a next gen habven't you noticed they've all statrted talking about console limitations. look at uncharted 2 25gb yet TERRIBLY LINEAR, look at killzone 3 40gb yet terribly LINEAR and look at crysis 1 6gb yet its environents are larger than that of all ps3 exclusives COMBINED and also looks better than all ps3 games running at only MEDIUM settings(not even high or highest settings) what does that tell you ? even bulletstorm pc thats about 5gb destroys all consoles games in the graphics department you see ? the most important thing is not disk space its RAW POWER which ALL consoles are seriously LACKING. the 512 mb ram in consoles is a MUCH bigger limitation than the 360s dvd format get your facts right would you ? even PHONES have more ram than consoles now aside from that consoles have been oydated in the processing power department since 2006 lol a 2006 high end pc is more powerful than ps3 and xbox 360 COMBINED that just goes to show how weak consoles are and that was n 2006!!! 5 years ago pc gpus deliver 15-20 times the performance now than they did 5 years ego PC is already a GENERATION ahead.sony might launch ps4 in 2012 and have it coexist with ps3 for a few years I don't see a reason why not.

This is what gta iv could have looked like if it was pc exclusive and rockstar didn't have to worry about the MANY limitations of consoles

http://n4g.com/news/799253/...

[Berserker__1124]

But those PC's are so damn expensive to buy and mod.

[menezeez]

@berserker_1124

you can build a bleeding edge pc for 900 bucks that will deliver at least 25 times the graphics performance of consoles. you can also build a high end pc for cheaper than that, that will also destroy consoles. its gotten to the point that even ENTRY level pcs would destroy ps3 AND 360 combined. instead of adding blu ray to ps3 if sony had used the money to change the ps3s gpu to even an 8800gt can you just IMAGINE how good ps3 exclusives would look ? an 8800gt(not even the far more powerful 8800gtx) has more ram, bandwidth ad graphics processing power than the cell and rsx COMBINED) ps3 exclusives wil look 2-3 times better than they do now!!!

300 dollar pc running crysis 1 on HIGH 1920*1200 at 35fps average!! and that was last year you'll be able to build a FAR more powerful pc today for the same price. like I said before even crysis 1 running MEDIUM destroys your ps3 exclusives in the graphics department

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

by next year sony could build a ps4 that could match samaritan tech demo graphics they could also use a 32spu cell. launching in late 2012 will give developers time towrite engines that will use all the spus(spus need to be coded for INDIVIDUALLY or they don't do anything) thats one of the reasons ps3 is so difficult to code for ps4 will 32 spes will be even more difficult to code for as they'll be far more spus to code individually so game developers will need TIME so as they are learning to adjust to working with so many spus the ps3 continues to cell when the ps3s life cycle is over developers should be experienced with the more advanced cell and wii u doesn't end up getting a head start so it dies off as it will be no match for ps4.nintendo themselves said wii u will be just as powerful as current gen consoles to keep costs low so they can make MASSIVE profits from day 1 which is a short sited mind set as it won't be able to last as long as the REAL 8th generation consoles(ps4 and next xbox )

[Clarence]

I agree. The PS3 continues to outsell the 360 for the past 3yrs. Last year the 360 released Kinect and Halo Reach, yet it was still outsold by the PS3.

This year will not be any different. M$ needs to release a new console before Sony. That's the only way they can hope to stay ahead of Sony.

[WooHooAlex]

Announcing it before the Vita comes out would be a mistake IMO.

[NLGSean]

That is another thing people do not realize. Sony will spend the next few years promoting the PS3 and Vita. There is no need for a PS4 at the moment. The PS3 is still VERY capable of doing some amazing things.

[menezeez]

what amazing things ? bulletstorm pc looks better than ANYTHING on ps3. crysis 1 MEDIUM (not even high or higheest)settings looks better than ANYTHING on ps3(that was a 2007 pc game by the way), farcry 2(that doesn't even look nearly as good as crysis 1)destroys ps3 exclusives in the graphics department lol even a core 2 duo can emulate ps2 perfectly and even crank up resolution to 1080p and STIL run at full speed something the ps3 cell cannot do or ever wondered why launch ps3s included the ps2 emotion hardware ? those where so the machine would be able to run ps2 games they later removed them to save costs thats why the newer models don't haev backwards compatability. a core 2 DUO not even extreme, quad,nehalem or sandy bridge(i3,i5 ir i7) has the processing power to do what the cell can NEVER dream of doing what does that tell you ? an 8800gt from 2006(not even an 8800gtx) has more ram memory bandwidth and graphics processing power than the ps3s cell and rsx PUT TOGETHER so what is so amazing about the ps3 or 360 ? even dead space 2 pc destroys any ps3 exclusive in the graphics department so what are talking about ? there are MANY pc games including multiplats that look better than anything on ps3 or 360 and they've been READILY available since 2006/2007. ps3 and 360 have been outdated since 2006!!! and now pc gpus deliver between 10 and 15 times the performance of their 2006 counterparts so as you can see pc is already a GENERATION ahead of consoles alot of game developers have said this already. you console fanboys are never well informed

[WooHooAlex]

Sony has a lot going for them right now with the momentum of the PSVita and amazing lineup of games on PS3. I don't see any reason to stomp all over those by jumping the gun and announcing the PS4 before they need to.

There is no doubt in my mind that these rumors are at least somewhat true, but they should announce it NGP-style.
Hold a private press event early next year, after the Vita launches to unveil the PS4. Show off the system, some games and talk about what its capable of. Then at E3, come out guns blazing and show off every game they have, announce a competitive price point and 2013 launch date.

[OooHJohnny]

Another bullshit article...

[marioPSUC]

The PS4 wont even be announced till at the very least 2 more years, maybe even longer than that.

[WooHooAlex]

I can't even put into words how wrong you are.

Do you HONESTLY think Sony is going to sit on its ass for the next two-three years while Nintendo and Microsoft launch their new consoles?

That would be suicide.
If they want to do this right they have to price it right and beat MS to market.

[leogets]

ps4 is out next christmas. confirmed days ago mate

[Holeran]

What a joke.

[Jdub895O]

No No! The ps3 is the ULTIMATE gaming machine ever.The power of the CELL!!

[Bell Boy]

It is not the ultimate because that system can never exist as technology always improves, however it is hardly on it's last legs...

[Bell Boy]

What a joke indeed, the rush of some who want to be paying more for hardware and each games just for an upgrade in current graphics..

All the talk of PS3 and 360 being maxxed is also a joke imo, because a handful of games on each system are pushing the envelope of their technology, the majority of developers barely scratch the surface of what the systems can do and yet complain they need more juice...

more like they want an excuse to charge more for games...gaming sites want new systems so they can fuel a new round of fanboy wars to get hits and therefore advertising $$$

I love my technology but gameplay is the core component which sadly is all to often put way down the list in many games....

I have always been an early adopter but frankly a new system could launch right now and I think I will give it a wide birth for a year or 2....the only new system that as wet my appetite is the PSV so I will let that get out the door 1st

[Raoh]

LOL

GTFOH

[younglj01]

Okay let me put in plain english why Sony shouldnt release PS4 next year.

I already have a PS3.Later this year I'm going to buy me a PS Vita and one of those Sony tablets.Sony you spent years building PSN on tha PS3.You have finally reached a place where you can ripe tha profit of your hard work.

Do me a favor and focus on bring more awesome games too tha PS3 and PS Vita.Tha only people you should be listening too about when you should release a new Playstation is you developers not some random people.

People are acting like tha PS3 have just stop selling.It havent even reach $199 and you want a new fuking console.Someone might get a PS3 for christmas you really think parents going too buy a whole new PS months later.

Tha more I come too this site tha more I think common sense is disappearing from people brains.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

ahah good logic there. I especially like this part:

"Someone might get a PS3 for christmas you really think parents going too buy a whole new PS months later."

LOL, no. I would expect those parents to wait till the ps4 is 5 years old and pretty outdated till they bought it for their kid, just like they did with the PS3.

People were still buying ps2 in 2006, that didnt stop sony then. I think that The PS3 will be out in about the next two years. There is still plenty of time for people to enjoy ps3 before the ps4 arrives. Ps3 will still be supported some after ps4 comes out, especially if ps4 has full BC.

[younglj01]

yea true but releasing it in 2012 would be dumb thats all i was trying to say ;)

[Morbius420]

Someone might get a PS3 for christmas you really think parents going too buy a whole new PS months later.

that could be said for any year.

[nano88]

Ps3 has not done much and now ps4 is coming out lmfao

[silvacrest]

fail troll failed

[thekiddfran]

Weak.

[divideby0]

I wasted a click for laughs.. author and website are totally clueless... nothing like writing (and I use this term loosely) in this case, a total lame and unsubstantiated article.. no facts, just lame opinions...
If this neo's 8th grade English teacher read this trash, he/she would just cry

[bobrea]

No, they don't.

[artsaber]

Why does something that everyone know is coming have to be announced? Everybody knows it's coming, if they announce it tomorrow or 3 months from now won't matter one bit. Announcing it early or later will not change the official street date for release.

[brew]

"maybe it’s time Sony stop worrying about its 10-year life cycle and get going on the PlayStation 4. At this point, it seems like the best idea for Sony."

This author is dumber than a bunch of rocks.

[Braid]

ASAP? Seriously? Like you've played Uncharted 3 and The Last Guardian already, not to mention the new Tomb Raider game, Assassin's Creed III, RAGE, Bioshock Infinite and all the others that I can't remember right now. Why the rush? Just be grateful that the PS3's giving your money's worth.

[BlackIceJoe]

No it should not come out next year. 2014 is the best year. Why that year is because in 2013 is when some really cool chips will come out & that way they can be in the PS4. The same with the Xbox 720. 2014 will allow for a better system then a 2013 or 2013 sytstem from them.

I do not just mean because it would be another year & so the chips would be better but what I mean is the chips coming out in 2013 are to be a big leap compared to the ones in 2012. So 2014 is the earliest I want the system to come out. Plus many companies have folded because this gen was to much & one bad game made them become extinct.

So letting this gen last until 2014 helps develops. Because this way they are use to the hardware & then they can move on. Plus there is still lots of great games coming out soon. So no I do not want the PS4 to come out next year.

[Raider69]

nvidia 28mn chips are already in production stage and fully samples have been tested at the begging of this year!Wii U its possibly going to use 28mn chips already.

[silvacrest]

i dont want sony to rush out with the PS4 but they simply cannot wait for 2+ years while MS and nintendo bring out their next gen consoles

forget about all other issues, move not selling well (unconfirmed), PSN breach, japan disaster, these are all temporary to an extent, sony launching there console after everyone else AGAIN is not an option

[V0LT]

I know it has been out 5 years now but I really feel as if Sony is just now getting started with the PS3.

[retro]

lame article, why do we even bother?

[mcstorm]

Why are people so fixed on having a new console? If we do see Sony and Ms bring out a new console next year then its bad news for the industry. We have lost so many developers this gen because of poor sales on new ips and big development costs. Sony and Ms need to keep the current consoles running for another 18 to 24 months to let developers settle down. Then it should be ok for next gen.

[admiralthrawn87]

worst article of the day. or of the week. idk, the robin williams one was bad

[bub16]

ps4 wont be out next year im 99% sure. ps vita coming out early next year. all these exclusives, so much is going on sony will milk ps3 for ATLEAST another year. disagree with me but only time will tell

[ramtah]

I think that we will se the PS4 in early 2013 or in winter 2013

[aquamala]

All the people saying they don't need new consoles will change their mind once they see gameplay footage on next gen. Don't you wish you can play the real Battlefield 3 on a console? Don't you wish uncharted 3 MP look nearly as good as the single player videos? Even when new consoles are out in 2013 they won't be too affordable til 2015 anyway, that's a LONG time from now

[Treyb3yond]

The links (I won't use te word news) this site provides are becoming worse.

[Ulf]

$450 for CPU, GPU, RAM, motherboard, 300W power supply, , HDD, BD optical drive, small cool case, and 2 decent case fans. Add a game controller, too.

150W CPU+GPU power -- assume the is for the drives, fans, motherboard, memory, PSU safety margin, etc.

Put together a PC which meets those requirements, and tell us if we *really* want a PS4 next year, or if we can wait a couple more.

I can wait, personally. I'll take a real upgrade, over the tiny one those requirements would get me.

[silvacrest]

i dont get why you think if the PS4 showed up sooner the specs would be lower, tech has advanced a lot since the PS3 launch and i dont expect sony to just use standard devices in the PS4 that are available at any tech store today, they never did it with the PS1/PS2 or PS3

hell, even the vita is using a quad core CPU which is unheard of in a handheld

so what im saying is, dont expect sony to skimp on the specs

[Ulf]

Tech has advanced, yes.

Also, in other news, the prices of the consoles are 50% of what they were in 2006, and we're in an economic depression. On top of that, along with the tech advancement, high-end PCs require TWICE the wattage that high-end PCs did in 2006, and that's not gonna cut it, in the livingroom. The average console consumer does NOT take good care of their hardware, so the heat dissapation must be excellent, and the device must be relatively small.

You can't simply say "tech has advanced" and pretend that's good enough. It's not. Many other factors have not fallen into place.

Console manufacturers would go bankrupt trying to sell a console with the kind of heat dissapation a modern gaming PC uses, in the average joe's livingroom. That just wasn't the case, in 2006, you could still put a high-end PC in a case with acrylic sides, with one or two medium-sized fans -- clear acrylic cases were even popular, in 2006, despite having horrid heat dissapation. If you tried to pull a stunt like that with a modern gaming PC, you'd be throwing your money away, because it would melt your CPU and GPU within minutes. The same heat dissapation issues will be present in any modern console. Remember RRoD and the billion dollar fix-it plan?

[silvacrest]

"You can't simply say "tech has advanced" and pretend that's good enough. It's not. Many other factors have not fallen into place."

okay, so tell me, why isn't that good enough?

you basically said im wrong but have given no explanation or proof why you think that, just going on about heat issues, wattage, and melting CPU's isn't good enough since you have no proof of such issues on even a theoretically device

[BitbyDeath]

As long as it's backwards compatible so i can play both PS3 and PS4 games then i'll be getting it whenever it's released

[Soldierone]

It doesn't need to be ASAP they just need to play cards based on the next Microsoft move. MS announces a new Xbox, Sony won't fall behind and have something ready to announce the same year. They will also get the next PlayStation or something to compete with the next Xbox out within a year of release.

They learned their lesson. Releasing late means sales are harder to grab. People still compare 360 to PS3 sales and include that extra year, so that will always make them edge Sony ever so slightly. The only thing that sucks is unless its something digital, I don't really see a new format coming out again with next generation. However the plus to that, Sony has less marketing to get a product mainstream in multiple industries and can keep the price lower overall, thus allowing them to fully target the game industry.

I believe they are releasing Vita just for this cause too. It allows them to have 6 months to a year of breathing room if anything does happen next year.

[menezeez]

i think both ps4 and the next xbox will be revealed at e3 2012 and launch summer 2013

[7SBuzzLightyear7S]

A new console in this day and age means nothing without a strong online presence. If they can fix everything that has been wrong with the PSN, which includes reports of another intrusion, then a new console within the next 18-24 months will be huge.

But, if they continue to sweep things under the rug, then just like recent months, Sony will continue to suffer.

[Run_bare]

the PS3 is still too young and so many games coming out next year. I don't want another PS console for at least 3 years.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Though a rumor it won't happen, in fact I don't think MS will launch one next year either, though....its a possibility. Its highly unlikely Sony will, seeing the fact they're gonna be focused on the PlayStation Vita .plus Revamping the PSN and unannounced new IP's.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

This is only a Rumor, and Honestly IMO I Don't think we'll see a PS4 until 2014 or 2015.

[C0MPUT3R]

MAXWELL GPU is what SONY, and possible MS are waiting for. It is such a huge leap over current gaming PC's it puts them to shame.
.
The only thing is for it to be affordable to put in a console they wouldn't be able to release until holiday 2014, but for that kind of technological leap I would be willing to wait an extra year. It's not like I don't have a ton of games to play already.

[maxmill]

too many games

[Enigma_2099]

NO, they must not... they don't have to announce anything. Developers have to max out these consoles first. Sony needs to kick back and wait until they do. And even then, their idea of maxing out the consoles will probably just amount to "OOOOH!!! Look at how purdy we made the graphics now!"

The PS3 and 360 aren't even CLOSE to being done. At this point, they'll probably start being cheaper to make, which should make them easier to afford. Which I believe is the true reasoning behind debuting a new console... They can charge you a high price all over again.

Bring out a new Wii... no fault of the system, but the game companies won't take it seriously until you put more under the hood.

[NyGiants7]

I don't want a PS4 and I'm def not gonna get one anytime soon, my PS3 is perfect for me right now but if they want to make the mistake that they made this gen by letting Microsoft release there console a year before then that's there fault. I don't think they want to lose there fan base to the new console and have to try and play catch up w/ sales and what not.

[ceballos77mx]

More likely a price drop announcement before any official PS4 news.

[frankymv]

Most early adopters like myself are waiting for the next console generation to begin. With Wii U launching April 2012 and the 720 launching fall 2012, Sony will also be launching next year

[Fullmetalevolust]

They ain't gotta do sh*t son!

[Raider69]

Im sure that the PS4 and new XBOX will come out end 2012 or holidays 2013. Sony will continue support the PS3 and so will M$ the 360! Some People like myself that have a 360 and a PS3 since release 6 years ago are ready to move...the rest of the new adopters just keep your PS3 and buy a PS4 wend you guys want,no body is forcing no one on buyinfg the PS4,but the tech must evolve the sooner the better.

[DARKrage34]

After reading this title...

I... I... I...

...farted.

[Hozi89]

Even if PS4 came out next year, I wouldn't need it. I've got too many awesome games to play currently. I'm willing to bet most ps3 owners wouldn't rush to get it either. PS3 has everyone I know satisfied and with great exclusives coming, that will keep everyone busy with a ps3.

[AWBrawler]

6 or 7 years is normal, It's not rushing anything if Sony reveals PS4 next E3 and release 2012. I'm sure they and MS are half done with their consoles anyway

[unicronic]

The article puts a very weak article together in support of an early PS4 launch. Should 360 have been replaced by a new Xbox when high failure rates were announced?

Every console encounters problems at some point or another whether they be permanent or temporary. 360 encountered very high failure rates early on, Wii can't get a decent software to hardware sales ration whilst PS3/PSN being the unhackable fortress for so long has seen alot of weaknesss in its armor exploited.

This is par for the course. The time for new hardware is when current gen games don't excite anymore and new developments in services and hardware are not capable of being replicated through patches or accessories.

PS4 & X720 will likely make an appearance around 2013/2014 simply because sales are good on software and hardware. By this time new implementable advances in mass consumer gaming and entertainment will be available.

[TommyManberg]

I disagree with the premise of the article. The PS3 still has lots to offer. No need to announce the PS4 just to declare their e-peen bigger than the other companies.

Besides, they said the PS3 would have a 10 year lifespan, meaning they'll support it for 10 year so we'll have awesome games for another 2 to 3 years or more.

[DarkFantasy]

asap ? lol no,but right now it's time for nintendo to show us what they got and what hardcore games they have planed for the wii U it's really intresting ..how will Sony and MS react ...how much further can graphics go the jump wont be as big.

[Technical World]

No they don't. Does it look like the PS3 is doing bad right now? It would be smarter if they pulled a Dreamcast and PS2. Let Nintendo send their system out and then b!t(# smack em with the announcement of the PS4. Then what would happen? Ask SEGA. Even though I'd be the saddest person on the planet cuz I love Nintendo that would be the smart thing.

[Technical World]

Do we need it? No. Is it coming? Unfortunately. Is everyone right now pretending to be mad but actually really excited for the new generation? Yes. Are you mad because I just completely exposed the truth? Probably not....... If my comment getting annoying? For a fact. XD

[tee_bag242]

I bought the PS3 day one.. Sadly Iv been waiting for Cross Game chat since then and some online jap beat em ups (Yakuza coop anyone?). Yes PS3 has had the best exclusives by far but I dont like to play many solo games these days.

If a ps4 comes out ill still get it but personally I havent used my ps3 for as much id hoped for this gen. I think its also got a fair bit of life left in it too.

[tee_bag242]

What a steaming pile of @$!# this article is...if it could be called that is. Its more of an opinion piece full of terribly inaccurate observations.

It looks like I'm not the first poster here to notice that too.

[StarWolf]

it needs to come out hopefully this winter to catch everyone off guard

[Drithe]

Old school gamers, like me, from the 70's, really appreciate and have the ultimate understanding of what it means to get a new console. 8 Bit, 16 bit, 32 bit, and blah blah blah upgrades in graphics were really awesome to see.

Every new console, with the much better graphics, had people who cried, "It's not about the graphics at all. It's about the how good the game is!" Sure, all the old games rocked. But those people didn't last long after they went from NES Donkey Kong to the SNES Mario games.

But the graphics department is slowly inching closer to lifelike graphics. Maybe in two or 3 generations we will get there and then, and only then, will it come down to ONLY software and maybe how many numbers of people you can play online. (Would it not be cool to play with 5000 real life graphics characters, all in one battle, at one time?)

But until we get life like graphics, I only want a new console when the graphics are a SIGNIFICANT jump. Besides, I am enjoying the hell out of playing all the PS1 RPGS like Vagrant Story. I am loving playing the Sega Sonic Genesis Collection RPGS on my PS3. Not to mention Battlefield BC 2(Still), Infamous, and tons and tons of PSN downloaded games.

For years I loved getting with my friends and going to buy a shiny new console when they first came out. I look forward to doing it again.

I just hope I can transfer all my downloaded games from the PS3 to the PS4. That would SUCK to have to buy them again.

End of Line.

[frankymv]

Good article. PS4 next year!!

[cooperdnizzle]

I am all for a new round of consoles. All though i do think it is going to be a little while before they come. If they released it tomorrow though i would go out and buy one. But right now i am pretty happy with what I've got. Ps3 360 wii, and of course my high end pc, that really kinda makes it feel like i do have a next gen console kinda. Don't fully quote me. The main thing is next gen will be amazing.

[videoxgamexfanboy]

I see no reason to bring out ps4 just yet. Ive had a ps3 since day 1 and i feel like the system is just gettin good. 2013-14 would be better imo. Now MS on the other hand needs to bring out a new xbox. I love my 360 and all but i feel like ive seen all it has to offer.

[ViserysTargaryen]

Sony is going to be needing the PS4 when the Xbox Next hit's the street. That much is certain. This isn't about who needs what. This is about the race to nextgen, that much is a fact.

[videoxgamexfanboy]

If it were a race to thr next gen then we'd all be playing next gen console rite now. I say ms needs to bring out a new console now because it was on the market 1st and tbh i really dont see any really must have games coming out for 360. Not to mention the media format it uses. And b4 anyone starts the imma sony or ms fanboy im not. Lets be clear imma videogamefanboy!

[ViserysTargaryen]

The gaming business isn't a vacuum where a company can sit around and do things on their own time table. Companies that do so are no longer in the market.

If the next Xbox comes out tomorrow with full 1080p games @ 60 fps running BF 3 with astounding image quality and 64 players, then Sony needs the PS4 the next day.

Sony came late to the party with the PS3 for roughly a year and lost a huge part of the market. If they're late for two years then there would be nothing left.

[Drithe]

The PS3 did not start out slow because it came out a year later. The PS3 couldn't sale with the 600 DOLLAR PRICE TAG! Had it been 400 bucks like Xbox, at the time the PS3 came out, then it would have out sold the 360.

I'm sure the year later thing didn't help though. If the PS4 comes out at 500 or higher with this economy, you can bet it will sell hardly any for the first few years ......... just like the PS3 who couldn't sell much during the good years.

End of Line.

[videoxgamexfanboy]

Let me put it this way...if ps4 came out tomorrow i honestly woyld not buy it, but if xbox 720 came out tomorrow id be all over it. Why? Because for me the 360 seems outta date now but for some reason my ps3 still feels like it has more to show me. Again im not trying to sound like a fanboy for sony cause thuth be told i perfer 360 but i just dont see 360 lasting two more yrs...

[N4g_null]

Wow the Sony hype over the cell truely is going to be the death Of them it seems. Every one wants to wait till the hype is fulfilled and no one wants another $600 box. I can understand that much. Problem is how much longer before peoPle stop believing the hype? I wonder how many will buy another $600 ps. I've never seen so many people not wanting better stuff. It's really weird. I think gamers are more tired of being milk than the industry knows. Also what if ms decides to skip next gen and go pc and leave the 360 going for another 10 years?

[Firstkn1ghT]

Destined to be last place again. :(

[hot111]

Why would anyone be against PS4 next year?
PS3 is an outdated machine,PS3 specs were set in stone in early 2005.

Sorry,this gen is coming to an end,it's time to move on.

[InTheZoneAC]

last gen consoles were severely outdated towards the end of their lives. PS3 is still going strong and the system still feels fresh...

I'd say PS3 has at least 2 more solid years before they announce PS4 release end of 2013 to end of 2014

[zero_cool]

actually pioneer released a 16 layer 400gb blu ray disc here see for yourselves...

http://www.joystiq.com/2008...

[zero_cool]

Overshadowing the playstation 3's sales momentum & playstation vita's launch with a new console so soon would be company suicide because sony can't afford to launch a new console until they financially recover enough from this gen & same goes for 90%of the game studios both multi platform & internal who still have several unfinished games they need launch & financially recover enough from as well before they jump to a new console so you fools wanting & or thinking sony's going to launch a new console earlier need to stop being so naive to how the business side of the gaming business works.

[DrJones]

Bad article. Lousy, uninformed arguments.

[Jacobster]

Makes perfect sense to bring a major expensive product to the market in such a fragile global economy? Almost as much sense as to lending millions of pounds to people who can't afford to pay it back :D

[PSWarlord]

I think I'll be ready next year for a new console, Why not!If you can afford one great, If you cant enjoy your PS3 until you have raised the funds.

I really want to see what it looks like?

[DOOMZ]

Im ready for something new... The current gen consoles seem maxed out allready...

[aaronobst]

enough with these damn articles!

[dafada]

....lol while i do agree that a ps4 would be amazing especially if its not too expensive, early next year is complete garbage. Ps3 has a bunch of exclusives at the end of this year and early next year and the PSVITA is launching early next year why in gods name would they release a ps4 as well. ps4 should be announced late 2012 and releases late 2013 or even early 2014.....

[icecoldfire]

sony will probably end in the gaming field at most probably at end of 2011 or feb 2012 just saying cauze of what iz happening these days

[AtTheDrive-in]

PS4 wont be out till 2013. just like PS1 and PS2 sony waited till each console was its 6-7th year when releasing a new console, 2012 will be PS3's 6th year. PS4 will debut at E3 or Tokyo game show 2012 and will released the following year. right now sony is focused on the Vita. SUPER LAME article.

[Jihaad_cpt]

why must they please give me the reasons and back them up with facts. I have video game journalist

[Bounkass]

No they musn't.

[SteveSmith]

We are not even sure there will be a PS4 to start with. I remember high-ranked Sony executives said that there was no PS4.

[turgore]

STFU we dont need PS4 yet.

[thespaz]

No they don't.

The PS3 is just now hitting it's stride.

If developers keep pumping out high quality games like Killzone 3, Uncharted 3 and Infamous, this generation could last a lot longer.

[Beastradamus]

More people would actually have to buy those games in order for them to actually make an impact. 3rd party sales is what drives a stystem, not first party exclusives. I thought this debate was over.

[Beastradamus]

This article is nothing more than a pathetic excuse to get hits.

[boss_killa]

The only company that needs to release a new console asap is Nintendo.

[lordolunch]

how do these things keep getting approved? lol

[phinch]

I wouldnt mind them announcing one next year, for a release of late 2013,other than that im not ready for a new one

[HINDERIZATION]

PS3 isn't done yet and wont be for i'd say, another 3 or so years. Playstation has a crap load of exclusives and there's still so much to accomplish with the system itself. Why would we want another console right now? I don't want Sony to turn into the next Microsoft is that's what they're trying to pull in this article.

[tunaks1]

ps4 would be unnecessary, ps3 still has a ton of big games coming out soon.

[MikeTyson]

SONY:

Announce PS4 in 2012 (E3)

release late 2013. Delayed U.S. launch for March 2014 just for lulz

[TABSF]

PC is already been embarrassing this consoles generation since 2007

If Sony and Microsoft don't release before 2014, its over like Mark Rein has been saying Unreal Engine 4 back at GDC is playable on PC now, so when Kepler and Maxwell come out its more than over.

[HINDERIZATION]

PC games aren't advertised like console games. That's probably one of the main reasons that PC isn't as popular as consoles at the moment. the last commercial i saw for a PC game was starcraft 2, and that was some time ago.

[skyblue14213]

Title of article:

"Sony Must Announce the PlayStation 4 ASAP"

-If the xbox 360 hardware failure is any indication of what happens when a company rushes a product out to try to beat the competition why would sony(or any other company for that matter) make the same mistake that microsoft did, not only making their customer base angry(to those that fell victim to the xbox 360 hardware failure) but costing microsoft billions to remedy the problem temporarily.

Imo, I will wait until 2014 before I expect sony to reveal the ps4 which is only a few years away, because I rather have them take their time developing the ps4 to iron out any possible major bugs that it might have before releasing the console not to mention the cost for the consumer to buy the ps4 now versus a few years later when the technology for the ps4 would be cheaper. In the meantime I will enjoy great games. Besides sony just came out with the ngp, so that and the good line up of games coming up for both the ngp and ps3 should hold gamers over until 2014