Forget Wii U: fancy playing the hottest new RPG at home 'til bedtime, then levelling up a little more on the train to work in the morning? That's the dream - and OnLive swears it's not far off.
I like Homefront & Borderlands on onlive but sometimes it lags.. But I have to say their prices are sometimes the same as steam. Oh yeah this is about 360/ps3 sorry..
I've spent far more time Playing my PS3, 360 and Steam than OnLive, but I have recently been enjoying the service. OnLive gave me a free game and for $10 a month I also have unlimited access to a large list of games. I'll always still purchase games for my PC and Consoles, but streaming them has worked better than I imagined it would. Lastly, and arguably most importantly, the idea of streaming full hardcore games to my tablet or even cell phone is tantalizing.
Hm, so the video quality is low. That sucks! Plus lag! And their settings are low! Screw that! edit: replied to the wrong comment/post
What is the resolution? Im not playing a game that is 720p on consoles in 480i just so i can do so one the bus.
People really need to switch to cable internet and get off of dsl. Cable internet is basically 2nd tier FIOS internet and about 75% cheaper. The resolution for Onlive, I personally get 720i sometimes 720p. The latency is still there but minimal because I've upgraded my routers and such. Onlive is a perfect rental system though because of the instant gaming it provides. The problem is, there isn't a ton of games on the service, so it wouldn't be someone's dedicated way of gaming.
you know... the concept is cool and all...but what about us in third world countries with 1.5/768 Mb/s connection speeds? Surely eventually internet speeds will be good enough...but soon? nah...
@Masta_fro While I agree that it won't be available (or viable at least) in 3rd world countries soon, I don't think that is OnLive's target audience. There's not much OnLive can really do to help seeing as it is quite intensive. I'm on a 1MB/s line here in the UK and I don't think this will be good enough to stream 720p games here at home, and the UK is far from a 3rd world country.
I'm on a 50 Meg/second connection (which is rare). OnLive looks great and responds amazingly at those speeds. It doesn't replace traditional PC gaming, but is a reasonable alternative distribution method, especially to those gaming on a serious budget.
There prices tend to match up with PS3/360 games, so.....what value? You pay the same. And don't give me BS about not having to spend on the hardware, because the hardware is in a completely separate league; Onlive is laggy, the video stream quality is low, you get input lag and the graphics are put on lower settings.
Out of curiosity, does OnLive support an overarching entitlement system like Trophies on PlayStation and Achievements on Xbox360?
@HebrewHammer Yes, OnLive has achievements. @SilentNegotiater I've never had any of those issues and the video stream is very good. It streams at 720p (the resolution most PS3 and 360 games are at).
Just cuz the res is 720 doesnt mean its good. The video quality is shitty, Alot of Youtube videos look better than Onlive's video quality. Its too compressed
@dantesparda I digress with your opionon on the video quality. I use OnLive on my 55 inch and the quality is very good. Is it perfect? No. Is it "shitty" as some people have said? No. If you haven't seen the game stream from the microconsole then I highly suggest checking it out. The quality is noticably better than the application used on the PC and Mac.
OnLive is a great idea and Concept, it's just America's ISP aren't up to par with what OnLive needs. Most games work, but there is lag in most of them as well. Not generally game breaking, but I couldn't imagine playing a game like Enslaved on OnLive. I think OnLive is a great way for the console developers to stop rental services like Gamefly, Blockbuster (who still goes there), and newcomer Redbox from cutting into their sales. If you have OnLive integrated into your UI then there's no need for them to go else where to rent or play games, but at the same time this may cut into actual sales of games. Maybe make it like PS+ Game trails. You can't unlock trophies or achievements until after you purchase the game, or prevent players from going online in online games. I don't know these are just ideas feel free to chime in, but OnLive is great, it's just ISP's aren't really up to par, except maybe Verizon and Google's new service that's coming soon. If there's any others be sure to let me know.
Aren't there areas in America with 1GB/s lines or something similar? Here in the UK the Internet is typically a lot worse than in America, so OnLive doesn't have much chance until ISP's in general improve their speeds.
I have seen their selection on OnLive and to be honest it's nothing to write home about. The pricing of unlocking the full games are also not that great. The only real value I see is the monthly bundle but the games included are older ones. Both the Playstation Network and XBOX Live have a far better selection and unique games that OnLive simply doesn't offer.
OnLive is good, but it's just not yet ready for the mainstream. Some people would have latency/lag issues, and this wouldn't play well with FPS lovers. Overall it's a superb service. They just need to work on cutting down the bit of lag.
But Steam can!
Onlive is great, but it just doesn't have enough AAA games to justify a purchase, though they got a killer deal right now, get the micro console and controller for free if you buy Dues Ex 2, and there is value all round, but unless it can get more big games like Battlefield 3 I don't ever see this any succeed any more than it has so far.
Why is nobody mentioning the horrible video quality? Am i the only one seeing it?
No your the only one who cares enough to troll about it -_-
@heartnet. How can u troll graphic? They are 50% of a game with gameplay being the other 50%. I am not going to play battlefield 3 in 480i just to have slightly more accesability. When i game its on a 60 inch dlp tv and i am sitting in a leather recliner with 6.1 dts surround sound. That is not exaclty a setup i can take to the park
I can't wait till SONY and MS comes out with their own cloud streaming service and buries OnLive. I do firmly believe that the cloud is the future of gaming, but OnLive sure as hell won't be mainstays in the industry. OnLive just reminds me too much of that "Phantom" console that tried to get all their games on that system. While OnLive might have succeeded where Phantom failed (actually launching) it will not stand a chance once MS, SONY and eventually Nintendo enter that market.
Why wouldn't it stand a chance against MS and Sony? It is way cheaper and is perfect for people who like to play a game on occasion. And that is a large target market.
Because Sony/MS/Nintendo have a MUCH larger fanbase and loyal following. It's all brand recognition, and would surely crush Onlive if they entered that mode. I suggest OnLive be quiet and enjoy what they have for right now, because if they provoke those other companies then, well, OnDead :p
I think we're still a long way off cloud gaming. I think next gen xbox/playstation will provide an optional DD service similar to steam and will probably have a 1TB hdd. We are half way there already.
When I think of my favorite games this generation, more than half are PS3 exclusives, so no thanks.
At least with the Consoles we don't need to always be online to play games. As if you only have Onlive then your fucked when power or just your connection goes out
@Les-Grossman... well to be fair in your scenarios you are fucked on all platforms save handhelds/laptops if they power goes out. So really its just a connection issue and I will be honest.... Its been years since I had my internet down for any length of time beyond a few min. to reset my wifi.
OnLives biggest problem is that ANYTHING you can play on OnLive you can play on other systems but the same can't be said in reverse. OnLives library is small and lacks one big, big thing... exclusivity. Wether it be be timed exclusive or actual exclusive...OnLive has none of that going for itself.
there are no AAA games on onlive that I cant play cheaper on other systems...
They can say what they want, but their game selection sucks, they cost too much considering you don't have them on your PC and can't mod them, and they require a ridiculously fast speed. I have a 20MB download speed and still can't play any game on there without a lot of input lag and Youtube quality video.
If that's the case then I have no hope - here in the Scottish countryside I get ~1MB speeds :(
Speed is not as important as a stable connection. I had a 12 mbps connection before I upgraded and OnLive ran great. If you were noticing issues with a 20 mbps connection either your connection to the internet was being hindered by your router/modem or your connection to their servers just wasn't that great.
@kamikaze LOL, yeah i check, they have a bad game selection.
Yep a value of zero can't be matched by any of both
No thanks, Onlive. I'll stick to the consoles thanks.
value? You mean like owning your games? Owning 1 game is worth more than spending 15 dollars a month every month and not owning anything Not to mention the fact theres a reason why the game industry has been plummeting into the toilet for the last 5 years now. And consumer game spending is at an all time low. Its because gamers dont see the value anymore. And onlive takes the value to a minimum,
There is no monthly fee to use OnLive.
Onlive doesn't have a $15 a month fee. It has newer games that you buy usually for $50 or less and can preorder upcoming for $45 usually with premiums like free games or a free microconsole included. You can rent many games for three days for $3.99 or five days for $3.99. Then if you want to "keep" it you pay for a full pass that lets you play as much as you want for as long as the game is on the service. Older games are usually $9.99 to $29.99 for a full pass. Some games are full pass only meaning they can't be rented. There is a list of around 62 games called the Playpack that can be accessed for one month for $9.99 a month. A few games are exclusive to Playpack and cannot be bought or otherwise rented. Many of them are awful or very old. You do not need to subscribe to pay pack and can quit at any time. Overall the biggest problem with Onlive is the limited selection. There are about 106 games on the service right now. Some can only be bought as a full pass, some can be rented or bought as a full pass, and some are only in the playpack deal. Some PC only games cannot use the controller and require mouse and keyboard. Overall it is a pretty neat service given all the bonuses and free stuff they routinely hand out. It works pretty well despite all the silly people saying it's awful. I have a 10 Mbs connection and most games look at least as good as the console versions. Controller latency is rarely a problem. It can cause minor problems with some racing games. I'm intrigued and have gotten a LOT of stuff for spending a mere $110 (including tax). Two of them were new games. (Kind of sucky ones, but that's not Onlive's fault) A microconsole w/ controller (Free for buying duke +$10 shipping costs) Amnesia The Dark Descent $20 F.E.A.R. 2:project origin $0 (Free for having Duke up a day late) Aliens Versus Predators(the recent one) $15 (1/2 price sale) Red Faction: Armageddon $0 (free w/ Amnesia purchase) Metro 2033 $10 (half price weekend sale) The Ball $5 ($5 friday sale) Duke Nukem Forever $48 (preorder)
thanks, that was some good info!
Who cares about OnLive?
onlive is like that small white kid with an expensive ipod, just walking around the ghetto known as the gaming industry. it may be a good idea per se- but i promise you that the big three will just walk up and steal every good idea onlive has at whatever time they see fit. cool your jets fanboys. onlive has no exclusive franchises at this point, with ZERO brand-recognition. i doubt the multi billion dollar corporations are scared of a neat idea and an ugly controller.
Exlcusives aren't really worth much if you name isn't Nintendo. Halo and GT are about it for Sony and MS. And Onlive's Tech is patented and neither MS nor Sony have much real experience with low latency app streaming. Reverse engineering that is not a trivial task. I think Onlive will be fine if they can reach consumers.
I think sony makes money off there exclusives, not only from GT5.
It can on game prices, who pays full rrp on PS3/360. Onlive you no choice but to pay full whack.
They do have really good deals.
you kidding me?? Steam has really REALLY good deals better than OnLive
nothing can beat steam sales prices. go to steam site right now and watch what summer sales they got going. These daily deals are awesome.
lawlz i forgot about onlive cause it doesn't count for a real gaming system.....it counts for nothing
So what happens when OnLive goes belly-up? Would you still be able to access the games you invested in? Yeah, I so figured. There is nothing valuable about OnLive.
. Onlive looks very good and is representative of how XBL or PSN will look in the future. Here's the problem... ALL publishers will eventually have their own version of Onlive for their IP's. Sony, MGS, Ubisoft, THQ , Nintendo, Activision and actually, EA is already well on it's way to cutting out the middle man. All games and pubs will be a little icon on a screen. as a matter of fact, you will even see the big development houses like Bungie and Insomniac do much the same thing for their IP's. The technology is cheap and will be even cheaper as time goes on. The " WINNERS " will be the gamers who will be able to play their favorite games with out having to support some dumb corporate policy like 3D gaming or ESPN...o_0 COD and COD elite will be it's own entity. That whole community could easily support itself without all the haters crying everyday. The big " LOSERS " in the short term will be the big guys like Sony and M$ who make a small fortune for basically providing disc drives...lol. Activision said a couple of years ago that they had given Sony over a billion dollars in royalties...you can kiss that good bye now Sony/M$...your days are numbered. Change and adopt or get left behind. Both these guys see the writing on the wall and have begun making plans.
One argument against OnLive which defeats anything they may have vs consoles and that is Download Cap.
Exactly. I have a 60gb download cap. Downloading Team Fortress 2 (10gb) took a good chunk of that share. I can't imagine what 10 hours of HD streaming (average time to complete a game) would do to my bandwidth.
No thanks.. a gaming PC isn't that expensive, and I already have one. Why in the world would I pay monthly? Buying games THROUGH Onlive compacts the issue. I would never buy this service...
My internet can be tempormental, therefore my consoles and pc beat onlives value for me. Plus I really love owning big bits of sexy hardware ...mmm tastey hardware.
value? VALUE? bullshit. where's the value in buying games you'll never get your hands on? where's the value in buying games that they will take away after a couple of years? where's the value in buying games that are gone if your internet connection goes down? or if/when onlive goes out of business. maybe they cost more on disc or to download, but not having my purchases taken away if onlive go out of business or my internet goes down or just on the whim of somebody at onlive is a price i would pay gladly. in fact games through onlive would have to be free to be more valuable than than my home console with it's discs and downloaded games. even then it would be a close thing.
Problem is, its a streaming program. It streams the game depending on your internet connection. If you have a crud connection, your games might not stream that well, like mine. Although to be fair, I am in the UK and OnLive isnt even out in the UK yet. (I got the US Onlive when they gave away Amnesia for free.)
There's a little something called exclusive games which Onlive lacks big time. Xbox 360 is no better but at least they have more exclusives then Onlive. PS3 has the most value. Games/technology speak for itself.
You know there working on an exclusive game with 'CGI' like graphics right. Onlive is a super computer so it's exclusive games would be way ahead of what xbox and ps3 can do.
We'll see what happens. :)
Can't play onlive if you loose your net. Consoles 1 Onlive 0.
You mean, there's more value paying for a digital version of a game than a physical copy? You mean, when my internet goes out, I can't play your games? That's great value right there.
Yea right, Onlive doesn't even play exclusives. Only multiplats, lol. Death to digital download only systems.
Onlive is the future of gaming.
I love how when OnLive is brought up in interviews, nobody brings up the REAL issues with service. They don't care if you want to actually own your games, if they did they would bring out a download service to go along with OnLive. They don't care if your internet sucks, like a majority of people in the US. They don't care if there service get hacked, and you can't play your games while the rest of us are still playing on consoles. These idiots that follow these dumb services because there "new" and "shiny", need to wake the hell up... it all comes down to them getting quick cash out of you. As long as the big 4 (Sony, MS, Nintendo, & Steam) don't integrate with this crap, it will fail. Most gamers don't want it, or even know what the hell it is. It's ludicrous to ask anyone to pay full price for something that you won't own. Is that the world you really want to live in?
have you tried it yet? I think you should try it out for FREE and test it out for yourself before judging. In fact i think everybody should try it out.I wouldnt mind paying ONLY 10 bucks a month for Onlive. It works great and maybe experienced 2 hiccups since playing.My internet isnt fast either considering i have some bootleg ISP. To be honest its a concept that will definetly have people switching to, because it actually works! I love how you can spectate people playing a game and have brag clips. This is the netflix of games.Hell pay 60 bucks for the new deus ex and thell give you two controllers and a console for your tv. I perfer the pc but thats just me.Onlive cant touch sony and the others. I really think this is going to be a sleeper hit. I love my ps3 and i look at this for playing pc games online and for cheap.