id Explains Why RAGE Looks So Damn Good On Consoles

RipTen had a chance to speak with id’s creative director Tim Willits recently, and he answered our questions about how they got RAGE to look so damn good on consoles.

CrzyFooL4466d ago

Barbara Streisand. I mean... John Carmack.

StanLee4466d ago

Yes, it does. It seems like the world of Rage is a large open area which is even more impressive.

rdgneoz34466d ago

@StanLee It does look amazing, can't wait for it to come out. Though I've heard its more Borderlands style open, with different sections connected to each other and not able to explore from 1 side to the other without loading screens.

lil Titan4465d ago

the short answer is that he takes the time to figure out the stuff that so many developers complain about and fix them! no cutting corners

hikayu4465d ago

cutting corner is so 2010 . john carmack's games are round , no corner to cut . f*ckin perfection or nada .

RedDragan4465d ago

Still looks far better on the PC. I wish the Devs would just speak the truth that consoles are not up for the job of doing graphics.

nickjkl4465d ago (Edited 4465d ago )

i like when people talk about pc

as if its a console

as in it has ONE set of specs that generalize the whole platform

they talk as if that gtx 590 is in every pc

and forget that no everyone has a gpu that can run dx11

and that not all gpus are even used to just play games

AAACE54465d ago

@nickjkl... Have a heart man! PC gamers have felt left out the past few years because no one cared about it much!

Now PC games are being talked about in the same sentence with consoles, so they have to promote it! Otherwise it's back to the World of Warcraft and Starcraft stereotype!

a08andan4465d ago


Technically a circle features an near infinite number of corners :) They are just invisible to the human eye :P

RedDragan4465d ago

Lol... DX10 is far superior to anything the PS3 and 360 can do. And those cards cost as little as £30.

Consoles have yet to see a game that beats GRID and DiRT 2 in graphics.

But don't worry, you'll get those graphics in the next generation.


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meetajhu4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

John Carmack made Doom run on SNES@50fps or 50hz what else i can say. He is the king of PC and consoles game engines.He created OpenGl and the most advanced network game engine.

Peaceful_Jelly4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

Carmack didn't create OpenGL, from where are you getting that info? OpenGL is the rival API to DirectX and it was created by Khronos Group. Carmack was the number 1 supporter of the API but as of late he switched to DirectX.

edit: And talking about the video, the guy says that the game looks that good thanks to "Mega Textures/Virtual texturing". http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Mega Texture uses low memory and resource but it takes lots of space from the disc. This is the reason of why Carmack has been saying that the PS3 version will look better (due to blu-ray massive space) but now they made the Xbox version into 2 discs to accommodate the missing ones and now the game should look more or less the same on both consoles. With the free additional resource they can make the game run at higher frame-rate and in 720p (unlike COD, that sacrifices resolution for frame-rate). WIN!

BeastlyRig4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

They are even optimizing it for intel sandy bridge laptops! to run at 30fps though.

bozebo4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )


30fps is unbarable with a mouse though. I am guessing by sandy bridge laptops you mean the gpu that is integrated in sandy bridge cpus.

Though anybody expecing to game properly will have a dedicated video chip in there. So 30fps on the weakling embedded gpu makes 60fps no problem at all for most dedicated graphics chips :O

A cheap 5650 chip is about 4x to 5x more powerful and it will run a game like mass effect or portal 2 at 60fps with fairly high settings. So imagine what kind of crazy high performance RAGE can pull out of something like that.

I think they have picked up on the possibility of casual PC gaming, loads of people own laptops with weak gpus that won't run new games. Scaling an engine to support those weaker chips could be great, especially considering that the bare minimum graphics hardware nowadays is only just behind console performance.

OpenGL4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

Obviously you never played Doom on the SNES because it most certainly does not run at 50fps. It's more like 20fps(at best), and runs worse than the Atari Jaguar despite its considerably lower resolution and less detailed sprites. It was still a pretty big achievement though considering how weak the SNES really was when Doom came out.

Big_Dom4465d ago

No he didn't. True, the SNES was not made to handle 3d texture mapped environments, and it was a massive acheivement to even run Doom on the system, but the FX chip 2 still couldn't render Doom at 50 fps. Nowhere near it. It was more like 12-15 fps max and at a cost of a boxed off screen and no roof and floor textures, with sprites only having a front on view. I don't know where you got 50fps from.

chidori6664465d ago

you sound like the biggest fanboy of this tool.

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showtimefolks4466d ago

i can't wait to get my copy hopefully it will deliver on all aspects.

the budget for this game must be a lot too 5-6 years od development that includes the building of the engine to handle all that pressure

i would love for bethesda to do a Fallout game using this engine. and I mean bethesda not this other studio that did new vegas

obsidan have very smart ideas for their games yet very very poor ways to execute those ideas in their games

Voxelman4465d ago

apparently it's had a pretty small team working on it for most of the time (30-50 in the early years) and only since the Bethesda deal have they upped it to 70 so I wouldn't be surprised if it actually cost less than big games like Assassin's creed Brotherhood which had 300+ people working for just over a year etc.

hiredhelp4465d ago

Cant wait for october november december. Serious amount good games for pc and consoles. I need more money. (

showtimefolks4465d ago

for fall 2011 lol if we want to enjoy all the great games that are coming out

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xPhearR3dx4466d ago

RAAAAAAAAAAAAGE. This game is going to kick ass!

LOGICWINS4466d ago

Only shooter I'm getting this year :D

LocO_o4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

So you wont be playing

Gears of War 3
Uncharted 3
Call of Duty MW 3
Resistance 3
Deus Ex Human Revolution
Dead Island
Saint Row the third
Battlefield 3
MGS Snake eater 3D
Twisted Metal
Aliens: Colonial Marines

If thats the case then what will you be playing?

Edit: Shooter games are a subgenre of action game,[1] which often test the player's speed and reaction time.[2] Because shooters make up the majority of action games,[1] it is a fairly wide subgenre. It includes many subgenres that have the commonality of focusing "on the actions of the avatar using some sort of weapon. Usually this weapon is a gun, or some other long-range weapon".[1] A common resource found in many shooter games is ammunition.[2] Most commonly, the purpose of a shooter game is to shoot opponents and proceed through missions without the player character dying.

LOGICWINS4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

@Loco- More than half the games u listed aren't shooters, but rather games with shooting elements.

By your logic MK9, Infamous 2, and Yakuza 4 are shooters because they have shooting elements in them.

One of Stryker's moves enables me to shoot his gun..does that make MK a shooter?

Cole's primary means of offense is shooting electric based powers out of his hands..does this make Infamous 2 a shooter?

Also, I wasn't aware Max Payne 3 and GR: Future Soldier were coming out this year. Btw, I will be PLAYING most of the games u listed...just nt buying them this year. Re-read my comment.

xPhearR3dx4466d ago

Ummm LocO_o These games don't come out until 2012, he said 2011. Still don't agree with him.

Mass Effect 3, Resident Evil Revelations, Ghost Recon Future Solider.

And these games have a TBA for 2011. Star Wars The Old Republic, I am Alive, and Max Payne 3.