Id Says RAGE Is Arguably The Best Looking Game on Consoles and Runs at Twice the FPS

A bold statement indeed, but one that Id has so far been able to back up.

evrfighter4467d ago

yup he doesn't ride his IP's like Molyneux and Kojima

The dudes not afraid of a new big budget IP major props.

b_one4467d ago

he has name to backup new IPs (hey it`s a new game from Carmack, that dude, maker of Doom) and all ppl know it is gonna be good game...

Still im counting that others will follow hes skill and will adopt new sollutions...

Soldierone4467d ago

You don't get the name for no reason...you get the name by taking risks....if he didn't leave Wolfenstien to make Doom, if he decided to milk Doom instead of creating Quake, and if he didn't decide to implement what todays standards are in games he would be nothing.

Kojima could easily do the same. Create new games at the quality of MGS, and he will have a similar name. However he obviously loves MGS so why leave it? He is taking an alternative route, using a single game franchise to try new ideas.

Pixel_Pusher4467d ago

I guess we'll see when it hits the streets. KZ3 is easily one of the most beautiful games on the consoles and the MP quality is just insane. And what about GOW3?

I'm willing to put money on it that RAGE will not top KZ3 or GOW3.

HeavenlySnipes4467d ago

He has to or he'd get overshadowed by the BF vs MW3 drama. Also, Resistance 3, Uncharted 3 and Skyrim (all established IPs)

ChrisGTR14467d ago

dude what are you talking about ID blows. sure they do really good graphics but they BLOW at making actual games.doom 3, quake 4,some other online game that was kind of like battlefield but worse. ID blows at making games and always has, graphics wize there good but gameplay is always repedative and lame.

Inside_out4467d ago (Edited 4467d ago )

...he said " arguably "...I think many would argue that Crysis 2 and the game that pushed them into October, Gears of War 3 would have something to say about that but beauty is in the eye of the beholder...SOooo

Many great looking games...I guess it comes down to expectations. Rage looks great BUT and this will be the defining issue, I think Rage will run 640p. Did you notice they never mention what rez it's running??? It doesn't bother me, depending on how it looks but the PIXEL COUNTERS are always watching...lol.

COD uses the same engine at 60fps and 640p. Brink uses the same engine...I hope it doesn't turn out like Brink...O_o

Common Johnny...show some console footage otherwise your no better than Dice and their scams. I've seen some footage that they claim is 360 but I have my suspicions. I'm also getting tired of hearing about how they invented fire and electricity. Things change...either you adapt or you become insignificant...just saying.

Bladesfist4467d ago

@InsideOut LMAO cod does'nt use a new engine. It uses a very old version of ID.

lil Titan4467d ago

i hate when graphics seem more important than gameplay this gen, smh it looks to be a good game and i hope they release there engine to other developers since i hate the over used unreal engine

awi59514467d ago


You forgot about quake infidel.

DeadlyFire4467d ago

Well if you look at the game there isn't buildings collapsing everywhere nor is there anything to do with multiplayer. So its understandable that your game has higher framerate then Battlefield 3.

I am certainly picking up RAGE, but its not because its got more frames then my new favorite shooter. Its cuz I respect old skool id software and RAGE does indeed look like a great sandbox SP game.

bozebo4467d ago

"COD uses the same engine at 60fps and 640p. Brink uses the same engine."


TheOtherTheoG4467d ago

Inside_out: CoD games run on a heavily modded version of the Quake 3 engine,iD Tech 3, that's 1998. Brink runs on the Doom 3 engine, iD Tech 4, 2003. RAGE runs on a brand new engine, soon to be the Doom 4 engine, iD Tech 5. Just so you had your facts straight.

meetajhu4466d ago

John Carmack + idsoftware = win win

OpenGL4466d ago

@ ChrisGTR1

id software didn't make Quake 4, Raven software did. Sure Doom 3 wasn't a fantastic game but it wasn't bad either.

The last real game id software developed was Doom 3 and before that it was Quake 3, which is considered by many to be the greatest multi-player FPS of all time.

Millah4466d ago

Reading through some of these comments just proves how many of the new gamers today don't really know a thing about gaming history.

John Carmack is arguably the single most influential engine coder living today. He pioneered SO MANY of modern day graphic techniques that programmers use. And you might ask why that's important? Because it doesn't matter how powerful your hardware is if the developer doesn't know how to code an engine to sufficiently take advantage of that power, and how to render the images on screen. John Carmack pioneered many of these techniques in coding sophisticated modern graphical engines. He's a brilliant programmer.

However, he's NOT a game designer. Carmack runs the engine-making at id and does almost ALL of it himself, as well as the company, but id has a completely separate section of employees dedicated to game design. Like Tim Willis.

People who show disrespect to ID really are not a respectable gamer. Even their competitors respect ids influence.

nveenio4466d ago

This is so frustrating. Anyone could make a beautiful game on consoles if they took out physics, destructibility and advanced AI. It's frustrating to see so many gamers kissing Carmack's rear window just because he helped mold a genre. Wait until Rage is released. If it doesn't suck...if it has physics and destructibility...if it's more than just a pretty thing to look at...then you should give him props.

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pixelsword4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

"yup he doesn't ride his IP's like Molyneux and Kojima"

1. There's nothing wrong with that.

2. Yes he/Id does: Quake has a bunch of different titles; and even if they didn't make some of them, you think they aren't making money off of the ones they didn't make, like they just gave it away?

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jony_dols4467d ago (Edited 4467d ago )

There is no denying that Id are capable of pushing hardware to the max. Rage looks absolutely amazing on both consoles and high-end PCs alike.

Id's graphic engines are so well optimised, that even on lower spec hardware, the games still look awesome! Hell, Id even managed to get Doom 3 looking great on the old Xbox (an achievement in itself!).

But is Rage better looking than Uncharted 3 or Gears 3?

Maybe, maybe not...we'll just have to wait and see!

SilentNegotiator4467d ago (Edited 4467d ago )

I doubt it. From what I've seen, the game has a very cel-shaded sort of look to it.

Even at 2xAA, 60fps, whatever, a cartoony looking game doesn't strike me as "impressive"

Now if they could actually RELEASE the game....

"crysis 2 on ps3/360 KILLS Killzone 2 and 3 "
You're blind. 720p MLAA 30fps vs aliasing and sub-hd is enough to make your statement a joke.

WitWolfy4467d ago

Just respect the mans opinion and move on

Peaceful_Jelly4467d ago (Edited 4467d ago )

What makes Rage stand out are the mega textures. And there's no way in hell where Crysis "console" would look better than Killzone. Some of you people really need to to play Killzone and shut the heck up, seriously.

But I agree that Rage actually looks on par or maybe better than Killzone "on consoles".


dabri54467d ago

I've seen the game running in front of me. Looks amazing. Really surprised to find out it was the console version I was seeing.

damnyouretall4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

all games are kinda cartoony, for the time being anyways. even the best looking games havent reached the next level yet. bf3 is on the right track though. anyways rage is not cell shaded, just colorful. why burn on it? it might be a great game

SilentNegotiator4466d ago


Until someone has an opposing opinion to yours, then respect can go out the window, right?

socomnick4466d ago

Makes me laugh when people say kz2 and kz3 on consoles are the best looking games lol.

Crysis 2 and other games like uc3 and gears 3 are miles ahead of anything we seen in kz2 and 3.

In fact kz3 was a downgrade in graphics over kz2.

Rage without a shadow of a doubt is the best looking console game anyone has ever shown.

Open your fanboy eyes and just accept it.

ChickenOfTheCaveMan4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

I played a bunch of KZ3 and Crysis2 when they came out, and to me KZ3 is still the best looking game out there, but I do think Rage will set new standards for the end of this console generation.

Dee_914466d ago

well its true it is one of the best looking games on consoles
but it being THE best is arguable
the fact that its arguable shows its up the with the best
I wont speak until I play it

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the_kutaragi_baka4467d ago (Edited 4467d ago )

funny, the creators of Crysis 2 saying this a long time ago....:P

jony_dols4467d ago (Edited 4467d ago )

Well considering Call of Duty MW2 & Black Ops are still using a modified iD Tech 3 engine (released 1999)...I'm pretty sure that iD's new engine will set the graphical bar (once again).

And please don't compare Crytek and iD.
Thats like comparing a Skoda to a Ferrari.

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Lekumkee4467d ago


Bro, I'm telling you this as someone who owns a 360 and PS3 and has played both and has WORKING EYES.

There's is no F'n way Crysis 2 on consoles looked better then Killzone 3... no F'n way. Not even close buddy.

Don't get me wrong Crysis 2 looked good, but it looks multiplatform good. Killzone 3 is 50 gig blu-ray PS3 exclusive good.