Q&A from Nintendo's Investor Meeting.
Tell that to naughty dog. If they only had to render that room with those graphics then it would be easy for them. Naughty Dog did UC2 graphics on a mobing train with a lot of physics running.
To accomplish the graphical feat of that trailer? PS3's God of War 3 says "Hi."
Killzone 2 surpassed it's trailer too.
No, KZ2 didn't pass its trailer. KZ2 still looks better than any other FPS on any other console but it did not pass its trailer.
I believe if they want to call Wii U a proper next generation system, it should be able to do stuff current generation systems are incapable of doing. So if the Zelda HD demo can't run on current systems, that's understandable because it shouldn't.
Why are people complaining when Uncharted is brought up? There are plenty of other titles out there that showcase the PS3s power, the reason why Uncharted is always brought up is because it's the widely accepted to be the console king of graphics. What 'theonlylolking' said doesn't make him a fanboy, calling someone a fanboy for silly reasons just makes yourself look like one.
This demo was running at 720p with no anti aliasing at all. When they run it at 1080p in 3D, I'll buy that statement. "We didn't get much of a taste of the console's visual capabilities either. In the initial introductory video, the only real semblance of an HD video game was a concept demo for the Legend of Zelda. In his excellent Wii U preview, Oli Welsh says it like it is: "It's undeniably beautiful, although you can attribute this in part to Nintendo's exquisitely hand-crafted art assets," Welsh observes. "The lighting is excellent, with many changing sources and a few particle effects in evidence - but my untrained eyes saw nothing here that an Xbox 360 or PS3 couldn't do. Perhaps Digital Foundry will say different." Or perhaps not. The Zelda demo, or "HD Experience" as Nintendo calls it, is almost certainly running at a native resolution of 720p, with no anti-aliasing and seems to be locked at 30 frames per second with v-sync engaged (subsequently verified with a good look at a 60Hz feed taken from G4's broadcast coverage of the event)." http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
Also... Wii U grahpic = http://www.andriasang.com/e... PS3 grahpic = http://news.softpedia.com/i... http://www.1up.com/media/03... Hmmm.. For now Uncharted 2 wins, wait for Uncharted 3
To be honest those uncharted 2 pics look bad...
are you really comparing a unfinish tech-demo/not-even-a-game vs a-finish-game in production for more than a year or 2? really?
this looks 7000000 times better then uncharted dude? are u blind? i seen my bro play the demo todaty and even if it is a demo this looks far better then uncharted
Well of course because no other console has the controller
You forgot to add in because its a Zelda game too. =D
by the time the game is actually made and released this statement would be false.
he meant that the other consoles can't handle those graphics
Nintendo developers are right Zelda HD Wouldn’t Be Possible On Other Consoles simply because of the amount of lighting effects, reflection, refractions, and transparencies. This of course require more than 512 of ram(PS3/XBOX360)to achieve this level of graphics. The Xbox360/PS3 on the other hand use a lot of graphical tricks to get the same effect which doesn't look as good as the real thing. For example:Take a look at Gears of war 1 or 2 and you will see barely no real time lighting simply because Microsoft wanting to save their processing power and memory for more detailed graphic which looks cool but not as cool as the Zelda demo. Most development use these graphical cheating program method(Z buffering,etc.) to try to get the same effects.They use rotational textures on the skin of the environment or charter model to fool the eye in to thinking it real lighting.the Zelda demo did not use lighting texture mapping trick at all which I find to be a amazing.
The Nintendo president is right. You are wrong. It was a tech demo, not a game. The Zelda HD Wii U tech demo is not possible on other consoles because it is Zelda. That's it.
totally agree, devs have been tricking the unsuspecting for years, thats why some are deluded thinking their ps3/360 graphics > that of a high end pc. its all just tricks until you have the hardware that can handle it and you finally see the real thing. the next gen graphics jump will see no major difference, it will all be in the lighting, physics, tessellation and high res textures etc.
graphx wall will be hit
Not to mention Uncharted 2 and 3, Killzone and a lot of the other graphics games on PS3 run in 30 FPS not 60. This early Zelda tech demo looks just about as good as Uncharted 3 if not better and I bet it runs at 60FPS when it is released on the Wii U
There are some things that the PS3 and 360 that IMO are doing better, but some things that the WiiU apparently is doing that I haven't seen as much with the PS3 and 360. The geometry and textures could be done easily. But the reflections and transparencies are something the PS3 and 360 might not be able to handle. GT5 though and Forza 3 have some good reflections happening. I'm sure there will be advantages to this hardware just based on the specs alone.
Especially because Zelda is an exclusive license...
Ah because Ninteno owns the Zelda IP? Lol I kid...
I'll believe when I see it, because right now this is nothing but people talking about how Wii U is better. To bad it doesn't look as good as it would on PC lol, oh sorry Wii boys. Its going to be more funny if the Wii U is alittle bit more powerful then the 360.
STFU and release Skyward Sword already.
Thats quite a statement, Would be great if it is true.
Forgot to include...the last generation games demo I've seen lately uses more lighting but less polygons. That being said, I think most game developers are finally realizing that pounding tons of graphics on screen doesn't look as good as having half the amount of graphics with multiply light source Effects. Take a look at (Gears of War 3, Uncharted 3, and MW3 you will see less polygons, better usage of graphical tricks, more lighting, and more realistic effects which in my opinion looks a lot better than what xbox360/PS3 have produced in the past. Nintendo better keep Zelda HD true to the tech demo or they will not succeed.
Doesn't even look THAT good to me.....BF3 and Crysis 2 (PC) still beat this
Current HD consoles cant run ZELDA HD end of current consoles can only run BF3 at 30fps at 700p a HD4850 does it at 83fps/1080p the WiiU has a custom Radeon based off the 7000 series AMD have more a less confirmed it.
r700 is NOT a 7000 series radeon gpu. It's a 4000 series gpu. Look it up.
And Zelda isnt Battlefield. lol. :D
go watch the tech demos of the latest tech 4 ps3/360 at NINTENGEN.COM its tech that came out 5 months ago and its not close to the 6 min bird demo not a chance on zelda go take a look.
I'm LOZ fan but what make this demo especial?
Now nintendo fans are claiming to be superior when their "next gen console" is more powerful than "CURRENT GEN consoles". It's obvious you have to release a console more powerful than current gen console. Nobody releases a weaker console than current gen's strongest console and call it next gen. Bunch of morons. Comparing next gent to current is retarded. If is can't do or is slightly able to do more stuff than last gen console it's not next gen to me. And right now it's not doing anything ground breaking that current gen can't do.
I thought graphics didn't matter to Nintendo fans... oh, now the Wii U is the most powerful (speculation and no proof shown) console, graphics matter again?
It only matters when they're on top. Were you not here when the 3DS was proclaimed to be SUPERIOR to the PSP's graphics? Then the Vita was revealed and graphics don't matter again.
This. It's not the graphics, it's the gameplay!!!
Power means nothing... (1)The Sega master system was more powerful than NES: NES still won. (2)Genesis was more powerful than SNES: SNES still won. (3)Neo Geo was more powerful than SNES/Sega Genesis: Neo Geo failed to both SNES/Genesis (4)Sega Saturn was more powerful than PS1: PS1 still won. I can keep going on and on.... Power means nothing
Genesis was NOT more powerful than the SNES. Unless by "power" you refer only to their respective CPUs. But that doesn't tell the whole story. SNES had far greater color palette and the ability to display more colors on screen, way more RAM, more abstract hardware modes (including the famous "Mode 7") and a way better sound chip. Have you been watching that "Blast Processing!" commercial again on youtube?
Well that's good to here. I'm looking forward to the new Nintendo console I was not a massive fan of the Wii had some good games but I rank the gamecube above it for games I liked the most. It will e good to see a new Zelda fzero and Mario kart on the Wii u as well as some other 3rd party games like bf crysis ect. Nintendo needed to take a step back in terms of development costs with the Wii as they were not doing very well with the sales of the gamecube and n64 the gba and as kept them alive. Now they have made money from the ds and Wii they can spend money on a console again and give is some of the best games ever like we had with the n64 and gamecube.
Sooooo the wii u is a next gen system. It BETTER be more powerful than ps3/360. On another note, what was so impressive about that tech demo anyway? Was it just because it was hd zelda?
Where is Zelda skyward sword the first real zelda. Wii is coming when the wii console is dieing! MY POINT IS : By the time this zelda hd hits the stores we will ALREADY. Have the option to buy an xbox720 or a PS4 that should be quite more powerfull then this wiiU
Welcome back to the Gamecube.
Game cube was more powerful then ps2 and Xbox
I rest my case: PS3 FANBOYS ARE THREATENED BY TEH GRAFIX!!!
wii u is coming in 2012 6 YEARS after ps so how can you ps3 fanboys actually expect it NOT to surpass ps3 in graphics quality ? REALLY ? damn even 2006 high end pc wipe the floor with ps3 and 360 put together in the graphics department. take a look at crysis 1 medium settings(not even high or highest) lol even bulletstorm pc destroys anything on consoles in the graphics department. PC FTW!!
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