Uncharted 3‘s Multiplayer Beta Community Split Over New Features

MovieStinger: "The Uncharted 3 beta was released not even 24 hours ago and the official forums are already flooded with a mix of praise and complaints from fans of Uncharted 2‘s multiplayer. I had a chance to get my hands on the same multiplayer build at E3 earlier this month and voiced some of the same concerns that are now constantly being brought up on Naughty Dog’s forums. So is Uncharted 3 an evolution in multiplayer gaming or a train wreck of new features?"

[sinncross]

I remember playing UC2's MP briefly and though it was alright. So far with this beta I am absolutely loving the MP.

Bring on Uncharted 3's release!

[Abash]

Exactly, I love these new features and modes

[coryok]

yea i like them too, especially all the different modes that they have

[Dee_91]

I dont understand
it has everything uc2 had plus more
did thhey just want another uc2 ?
i know thats what people are use to with the cod series so that might be the reason for the complaints lol

but seriously I can see if they just dropped all uc2 elements and built something brand new
but they didnt they built off uc2 so it has everything uc2 had the new elements are a plus to me
eh im not surprised you cant pleases everyone

I just hope nd dont ruin everything theyve done so far trying to please everyone

[Why o why]

from what i see theres a hardcore mode with none of the extra bells n whistles. Smart move by ND

[Pixel_Pusher]

Give it some time and get used to the new mechanics before you start to criticize. In order to give an accurate assessment you'll need to play the game for more than a couple of hours. If you want it to turn out well then be fair and openminded when giving your feedback on the beta forums and
keep your emotions in check.

UC2 was greatness (minus a few issues) but it's time to move on and try new things!

[pixelsword]

As long as I can make my character to the pump, I'm happy.

[Solid_Malone]

hahaha yeah, i was actually using that taunt all day on U3 :).

[Marceles]

Lol yeah Why O Why, Hardcore mode is awesome. Every time a power play starts I want to throw my controller across the room. My team still ends up winning anyway, but I want to win by more points lol

[badz149]

not that I played it already, it just didn't launch at all! I started the beta, then it asks to update and then my PS3 restarted! 3 times the same thing and now I'm pissed and I'm at work! sorry boss for any performance slump today! blame it on UC3! :-(

[Pixel_Pusher]

if you're having issues with UC3 beta just delete the UC3 files in game utility folder.

[PRHB HYBRiiD]

loving the beta im so bored of fps mp i needed something new

[miyamoto]

I miss the original Uncharted 2 MP its by far the best. Anyone can kick ass during those days. The hackers are the one to blame with the changes ND made with Uncharted 2 MP.

This U3 beta feels very light compared to U2 MP. And those suicide grenaders are a pain in the ass but it does makes you play more actively & more alert.
Its okay though. except for the graphics and sounds are horrible by Uncharted 2 standards.
I hope this will be improved upon.
I also noticed the characters have bigger heads this time.
ND needs to fix the lobby times it takes forever to find players and closed games.
I like Killzone 3 beta better.

[SSKILLZ]

Hell yeah it plays more smoth than U2 , it just needs a bug fix .

[Bloodraid]

It does NOT play smoother than Uncharted 2... The controls are clunky and there are a load of other issues.

That being said, the multiplayer is great.

[WindNinjaDW]

@BloodRaid: Be specific. What issues are you talking about. As far as clunkiness goes, Uncharted 3 doesn't feel clunky to me. I've yet to run into any issues, aside from the fact I hate the double damage powerplay(winning). Airport stage is hella fun.

[Thatguy-310]

I'll tell you this As a BIG TIME UNCHARTED FAN this multiplayer doesn't play the same as Uncharted 2 ..its sort of clunky when you compare it to its predecessor. AND AIMING SUCKS DONKEY B***S!!! I'M having trouble seeing how this will be the go to game for multiplayer like naughty dog said a while back. I'll just stick with Uncharted 2 for now and I know I have to get used to the new feel of the game but for now its not my favorite thing to play like I was expecting. And there are ton of ppl here that just "love " the beta because its made by naughty dog/ ps3 exclusive ignorant fanboys have ruin this generation

[TKCMuzzer]

@dboyc310
It's your ignorance that is in question. I don't love it because it's made by ND, I love it because it's a nice change and fun to play.
Please don't be ignorant and assume you know what others like and why they like it.
It's simple, you thought you where good at U2, ND changed a few things and now your mortal again. Life is a bout learning.

[Rainstorm81]

so dboy....since people dont share your OPINION they are ignorant fanboys and their OPINIONS don't even matter?

Ive played it and enjoy it, it isn't U2 at all but an improvement on the U2 formula (minus the bugs)

[BX81]

Yeah be more specific so windninjadw can fix them

[STONEY4]

From the article
"That’s because I used the new AK47, which in its current state is almost worthless."

What? BS. I literally almost always get 1st place overall in TDM, and I ONLY use the AK-47 as my primary weapon, and I fire full-auto, rarely in bursts. It sounds more like a skill issue here. If anything, the burst-fire gun with the red dot feels terrible. And the Dragonuv is forced to be scoped now. I actually think the AK-47 is the best weapon in the beta

The one think I don't like though is the new co-op mode. All I want is my 10-round gold rush and survival back. Not this constantly changing thing that ruins the pace, and only 5 enemies at once. And it's too easy. What happened to the hecticness of UC2s co-op?

[Rainstorm81]

funny i use the FAL substitute as my default gun and place in top 3 at least every time, but i also swap weapons from dead enemies as well.

It all comes down to preference...i love the ak too...

And 3 team deathmatch is great

[sobekflakmonkey]

Yeah, same here, Lurv that AK-47, at first I tried the G-Mal, but shortly after using it I started to hate it with a passion, just not good with it, some people are but I am definitely not one of those people, I rock the AK-47 or the M9, I prefer the M9 but I only use it in Co-op.

[Redempteur]

i'm a AK-47 player and i have no trouble killing my ennemies.

it's just différent than the U2 ak ...

[Thatguy-310]

Just want to wait and see how long these "supporters" will stay playing Uncharted 3 multiplayer if ND decides to keep it the same way it is in the beta..when I see the big numbers of ppl online playing it I will know im wrong and that the changes where right but for now I just don't like it and see it as a COD TPS clone and looking at other COD clones I'm sure you guys have noticed how it doesn't end well and it sucks to say it because I'm a big Uncharted fan and its my holy grail of this generation but I'm honest and only because I like the series doesn't mean that I'm going to LIkE every single thing that comes out of it like some ppl on here. so all you fanboys can disagree with me all you want :D as for now its Uncharted 2 4 ME !!

[Rainstorm81]

Its fine for some to not like the additions.... but to try and call out other gamers for enjoying new additions is just ignorant...

COD TPS?? WTF?? play hardcore then.....no boosters or anything.

It just seems like you are trying very hard not to like it, You've said the series was the holy grail for you then you know U2's MP went through changes post release, U3 is still in beta form it will have updates and changes......but you're a fan and know this Riiiiight?

[Thatguy-310]

Raiinstorm

Only because I'm a fan does not mean I'm gonna have to play something I don't like believe me when I say this i keep going back to it omce in a while and try my best to like but i simply cant..It's a fact that ill enjoy the single player which I prefer the most but like I said in another comment i cant really see this game being the go to multiplayer experience that naughty wants it to be for god sake less than 20 ppl in my friend list have downloaded the beta which was basically available to anyone ... I'm a gamer if I don't like it I'm not gonna wait for the post changes to happen like you mention in your comment ...I truly see where your coming from but this is my opinion and I don't really attack everyone that likes the new additions ...I know for a fact that they're a lot of ppl here that are just supporting it.becAuse its made by naughty dog

[Wolfie]

i am veteran UC2 player and i love UC3 multiplayer, free 4 all is awesome !

[theonlylolking]

The people in the forums are only complainers. I wish more people would say what they like in the forums instead of it just being around 3 people(including me).

[KING_KAI]

hey im a king too

[BryanBegins]

No no, I'm a hardcore gamer and I hate changes. I want ND to replicate UC2's multiplayer exactly and not add anything else!

This is why I buy COD every year and I buy HD remake of old games (and the fact they freaking have trophies!)

\sarcasm

[BX81]

Oh snap that was hell'a funny where is my bubble up button?..... Lame!

[FAGOL]

I've only played 2 matches of tdm. The Cargo plane bit was just amazing! I wish it would of lasted longer though.

[Hockeydud19]

I'm suprised they didn't continue fighting on the plane after it takes off. Like getting a cash bonus for capturing the plane and then continue the fight in and outside the plane. It almost feels pointless after you just get pushed into the hangers. It is a very cool premise though.

[BeaArthur]

I love U2 (up until 1.5) and I have only done 3 matches of U3 and I'm enjoying that as well. I think it's too early for anyone to compare and contrast them. Most things haven't been unlocked yet.

[fluffydelusions]

I can't imagine who'd complain over the features. The MP is fantastic.

[BeaArthur]

I could see people taking issue with some things. Being able to buy extra perks before a round starts might be a little unbalancing. Anytime you change something about a game people really liked will be met with some criticism.

My advise for those people would be to approach each game as it's own entity and not compare it to what the last one was. I can already tell that some things that worked for me in U2 aren't going to work in U3 so I will have to employ different strategies and I'm fine with that because I accept it.

[Surfaced]

EXCELLENT article. Sums up all of my concerns, as a U2 veteran.

Especially the effect that the sprint feature is creating. Seems like Naughty Dog reduced the max speed you can achieve by 15-20% and gives us Sprint for a temporary 25-30% boost. So with sprint you run 10% faster than was regular in U2. As a result of this, and probably along with other minor tweaks, U3 feels WAY more sluggish than U2. I was able to increase aiming sensitivity and this made it better, but there's still a lot to be desired. I hope they change this somehow. I feel like I weigh 400 pounds in U3.

[SlickShoes]

Maybe they want everyone to be playing as Doughnut Drake!

[Dee_91]

sufaced
haveyou tried pressing l3 while running ?

the speed seems the same as uc2
i havent played uc2 in awhile so it took me a minuteto get used to it but It does play smoother a little fatser than uc2
im just still trying to figure out the melee range lol
i keep swinging at the air

[kza]

Well said, i thought this aswell.

[Hockeydud19]

I've encountered a lot of glitches falling through walls and getting stuck in boxes. It's kind of annoying how a good multiplayer game has to try to compete by others by making it more and more complex. A good example is halo. Before Reach no perks no nothing and now we have loadouts etc.

[Rainstorm81]

welcome to the COD MP era.....smh

[koehler83]

Despite my tendency to lash out at "The beta is broken!" types, I do have to agree that subjectively, I don't like the direction of U3 MP as compared to U2.

That said, U2 is still there.

[Crazyglues]

Give them time they are going to tweak it, I'm sure when they are done it will be as nice or better then Uc2...

Naughty Dog is a really good developer, I'm sure they are looking at the feedback as we type..

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[koehler83]

I have full confidence in their ability to make something awesome. That doesn't necessarily mean something I like.

[Crazyglues]

When I said they are looking at the feedback as we type I didn't mean here...

I mean of the feedback towards the beta impressions.. Mostly on their site.. -(i'm assuming that's why so many people disagreed)

or maybe you people Don't really believe Naughty Dog will make something you will like -as koehler83 has stated..

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed and I'm hoping they get it right.. I'll be really crushed if they mess up on one of my all time favorite games..

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[WhiteLightning]

I'm going to be honest

ND made it into a Third Person Uncharted:COD

Loadouts <Sniper as a starter weapon)
Upgradable Perks...I mean Boosters
Killstreaks...sorry Kickbacks
Sprint feature which has messed up the nice pace that was in U2

Fact is I don't see why Uncharted 2 players who have been there from the start should be pushed into hardcore mode and be forgetten about.

Thing is people won't be honest....they'll just pretend and think "Oh it's ND, they can't do no wrong"....sorry to break it to you ND aren't perfect....nobody is

EDIT: Forgot to add, does anyone hate how now instead of Skill...people who are a higher level will now wipe the floor with you if your a lower level because they've unlocked way more stuff. That's what people liked about U2, everyone was basicaly the same...the only difference was two boosters. If they took SA out in U2 it would of be more fair.

[ksense]

I totally agree to what you are saying. you know you and I and many others here on the inter webs can sit and argue how cod sucks but the truth of the matter is that it sells like crazy. you make more money by selling more and you can't blame them for trying to make it more cod like. We are a minority here. compare the numbers that still play modern warfare 2 on the console to uncharted 2 mp and you will see why they want to increase the audience. I like u2 multiplayer but this seems like it will bring more people in and that is a different kind of fun so I am happy.

[WhiteLightning]

Agreed, I understand but I didn't think it would be like "Right if you don't like the changes just stick to Hardcore mode" basicaly trying to silence any U2 complainers.

Look at the disagrees on my comment, if you say anything bad about ND you get disagreed.

Sorry folks but it's true

Uncharted isn't unique anymore, it's a third person Call of Duty clone. I'm not saying I hate everything somethings are pretty neat but the COD related problems are still their. The amount of times my friends who didn't like U2 go "Wow this is like Call of Duty" or "It plays like COD"

[Cenobia]

@WhiteLightning

You are getting so many disagrees because you are being pretentious.

Your comment was fine until the end, when you filed everyone who has a different opinion into the "ND fanboy" category.

[PinkFunk]

Hm yes.. @WhiteLightning, it appears that you're judging too quickly. "Uncharted isn't unique anymore", is a huge overstatement considering you're judging off a beta. You may be right in the end, but you may just as well be wrong.

Take it easy, give proper feedback to the beta, and play the final game with an open mind. I am sure they are making major tweaks within the time of the beta, not only just to satisfy unbelievers, but undoubtedly because they are aiming to improve the game every step of the way before release.

Without sounding like what you might call an "ND fanboy", I do know that Naughty Dog cares about the quality of their work, and without a doubt will tweak and change aspects of their game to the best of their ability.

[Why o why]

yeah, the added sprint makes the standard movement seem slower..not a fan of that. I wish that sprint speed was the default but i suppose they're testing the waters. Seems many may opt to play the hardcore 'no thrills' mode...just skill to kill

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Your first concern I don't really see the problem with that. Especially since the loadout sniper rifle has become two shots to the body, and 1 to the head
As far as up gradable perks go, I don't see the problem with them either. I don't use them and I never feel I am at a disadvantage. I still own whether I have them on or not.
Kickbacks is another non factor for me, I played like 12 matches yesterday and I have yet to see someone use a kickback on me.
Sprint I kinda have a problem with simply because it feels stiff when I am using it.
@White lightning There is still a sniper power weapon that is one shot one kill. So you are still able to get that tingly feeling XD

[WhiteLightning]

I just meant loadouts in general

Sniper for me was like a "WTF" moment. You don't get that good feeling when killing someone with it now because you havent when out of your way, got lucky to earn the shotgun...it's like the kickback RPG, if you get to it first you get that satisfaction of getting to it's location in one piece.

[SAE]

i didn't mean to be an ass or anything like that , sorry , just saying it with respect , people complaign alot without giving them a solution , the changes are good but they just compare it to cod , naughtydog said they wanted to make it as big as cod , they copied few things to make it big , they will put alots of modes and maps , more option , that's what i meant..

[SAE]

i diagree wih you , so you want naught dog to put uncharted 2 multiplayer in uncharted 3 without changes , only put new maps and modes , that's it , what do you want from them to do ?. if they didn't change things it will be the same , they try to put new things , even if they put killstreak , what's wrong of killstreak or perks...

you may hate uncharted 3 beta because of how you think and comparing cod to other games but alots of people like the changes , these people don't compare , if the feature they put is good and fun then it's good even if it's copied from any game , get over your self with cod and enjoy the games not only the beta , alots of games copy other game , if you don't even want the sprint i think you won't like all the changes ...

[MrSpace]

Look he's had his say, don't be an ass and complain aboout his comment. Most of what he says is true. We get it you like the new changes, this is what the artcile is pointing out, a SPILT community.

If you've seen his comments in the past on Uncharted 3 related stuff, the guy actually loves Uncharted

[WhiteLightning]

Why have you just jumped to conclusions

" so you want naught dog to put uncharted 2 multiplayer in uncharted 3 without changes "

When did I say I wanted U2 gameplay in U3. I mentioned it was unbalanced.

People complained on those forums about something like, for example, SA to be taken out, instead ND put it in U3 in three forms. One of them is a weapon mod and two of them are boosters. Fact is nobody asked them for these drastic changes, if they improved slowly with each game they could of balanced it out more. They've made it seem like a completly new game when all they had to do was tweak a few things here and there, and add small changes to start out with.

[ASTAROTH]

IDeath 489...

I agree with you. One thing is for sure and thats that haters gonna hate. If anyone dont like the changes go play the "superior" and same as every year multiplayer of COD. If you cant evolve with the game then dont play it. So where are all the people saying Uncharted was all about the single pleyer?? Seems people always complain when its a SONY exclusive. Same happened with Killzone... 3 has a differen multiplayer fell than 2 and people "flooded" the forums with complains but the truth is nobody stayed on KZ2 as they said they will do. They moved to KZ3 and devs proved that its a better game.

Give ND some time people and dont pretend that if a game change something its automatically worse. People are so familiar with the same every year that they dont want to change... Just my 2 cents.

[SAE]

i said this to someone :
yea right but naughtydog want to try new things , they want to make uncharted 3 something different and better in same time , that's why they changed all of these new things , the movenment is the same of uncharted 2 but they make it a little slower so they can put sprint and that help the game to be better for pro players , they have more option , the aiming in uncharted 2 is good , i agree with you but just likw what i said , they want to try something new so they made it harder , some people like it and some doesn't , for me , i want something new but i still feel like that they can upgrade the aiming in uncharted 2 but it's hard ,the aim in uncharted 2 is easy and the aim in uncharted 3 is hard , so the best thing to do is the middle and that's by putig the best things in both and that mixing the fun and hard , that's a challenge for them , i hope they make it and make aiming the best for it .. just try to understand the gameplay of the beta and you will like it , don't look at uncharted 2 alot, try to search for the best thing and tell it to naughtydog.. the more option the better

look at strhawk , it changed alot from warhawk , i mean it , alot not like uncharted 3 but people like it because they don't want to play the same gameplay again , they want new tings in it more options , exciting gameplay , naughtydog trying to do that , the sprint , the jump , the perks and killstreak , customize , all of these to make the game more fun not worst ..

the graphics are good , i knew befor the beta released that people gonna say the graphics not better then uncharted 2 , what do you want from them to do , the graphics in uncharted 2 are amazing , the look of the characters are realistic , it's hard to change mit more..

[Redempteur]

there is a noticable différence.. killstreaks aren't that unbalanced sure having a instant RPG might feel unfair , but
1) you have to work for it .( camping is almost impossible)
2) damage of the rpg was tweaked.
3) you aren't invicible with the rpg .

Same with other kickbacks.. THE POINT of the beta is to figure out the balance and the bugs .

[WhiteLightning]

........Work for a Kickback

The medals are earned really quickly, theirs people on the forums who have earned 4 RPG kickbacks a match. I've earned like 5-6 kickbacks after I fired a RPG kickback and was like half way there to earn another one. Kickbacks are too easily earned, as I;ve said before if you could only use one per match then it would be alot fairer and people would have to think about when and where they are going to use it.

You can earn a medal for staying in cover for a while ¬¬

How can we balance it out when most of the time it seems people are just going to put up with the changes for the sake of it. It happened with U2, then people complained AFTER it came out...they changed the health in the 1.5 patch and it kind of ruined it abit. Rather complain now then when it's too late.

[Kingscorpion1981]

I think Socom 4 is the third person call of duty

[helghast102]

No, no no no.
Uncharted 2 1.05 made it into 3rd person CoD
Uncharted 3 as it is, is perfect, or at least damn near close.
Kickbacks are similar only in concept, the actual usuage is much different, in CoD killstreaks are PRESS BUTAN 2 WIN, in Uncharted 3 they are small bonuses.
Boosters were in Uncharted 2, shut it.
Loadouts are incredibly limited, i usually dont like the concept of pre-game loadouts, but U3 does it well.
Sprinting messing up pace? it last for like 2 seconds and you can't do fuck all while doing it, bad complaint.

As an Uncharted 2 player who was there from the start and left at 1.05, i find U3 to be a refreshing return.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

I agree with you. I played uncharted 2 everyday from the beginning up untill the 1.05 update.

I love the beta so far. A few things could be tweaked but overall I have had alot of fun, like I had with uncharted 2 for the first 5 months.

Im really glad they added Free for all too. I always asked them to add it to U2. And I was right when I thought that it would be great for uncharted, because it was alot of fun.

[vickers500]

1.05 made Uncharted 2 multiplayer GOOD. It should NOT take a FULL CLIP of ammunition from an AK47 (or more than half of a clip) to kill someone. That's just plain retarted. I don't want it to be like CoDs 1-3 shot kills, but it shouldn't take a full f*cking clip of ammunition either.

If this beta is any indication of U3s final multiplayer, then I wont be playing very much of that crap. I'll just stick to single player and maybe co-op if it's any good.

[Ser]

@vickers500

You're just angry because you probably can't aim straight.

The damage scaling is fine. It doesn't take an entire clip to kill someone with the AK-47.

[helghast102]

@vickers
Good, then stay away from the multiplayer, it's obviously not meant for you.
I can easily kill someone with 10~ bullets because i can actually AIM, if the health was lower then the skill ceiling would drop like a rock, just like Uncharted 2.
and lol at "retarted".. dumbass

[vickers500]

I can aim fine. The amount of bullets needed to take someone down though is ridiculous.

You don't get shot 10 f*cking times and walk away, it's just not how it works. I know uncharted isn't supposed to be realistic, but if they're going for the whole "bullet sponge" system for multiplayer, then they should have something to properly explain it.

It's too easy for pansy ass weaklings to run away from a gunfight, which is why it sucks. I pump a guy full of ammunition, and while I'm reloading, he does his quick little roll into cover and quickly regains health sitting in a corner like a the p*ssy that he is. That's probably why you two like it, is because it's easy for you escape and run to a corner to hide and cower in fear, hoping that after the 2 or 3 seconds it takes you to fully regenerate your health, that you will be lucky enough to win the firefight you should have just lost.

I laugh at dumbasses like you who think you are "skilled" for running away.

The patch in Uncharted 2 was perfect, it wasn't too much, nor was it too little. You didn't have to unload close to a full clip on your opponents to down them, but you couldn't kill them with 2 or 3 shots.