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A Lack of Exclusives - Is it Really an Issue for Microsoft

There's no getting around it, the 360's lineup of exclusive titles this year is a bit skimpy. With only Gears of War 3 and Forza 4 heading exclusively to Microsoft's platform in 2011, many Xbox haters are poking fun at the super small list of games. However, will quality win out over quantity? Surely both Gears 3 and Forza will be fantastic games that justify the ownership of a 360, but is it enough to face off against the slew of PlayStation 3 exclusives Sony's fan-base will see later this year?

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Minartis3375d ago

Nope, there are plenty of great games.

Haters refuse to put xbla or motion controller games on these exclusive lists purely because MS totally dominate in those fields.

Add all the great multi-plats to that list and you've got more then enough great games coming out until the new xbox comes out next xmas.

(Oh, I do own a PS3 and Wii - I'm not bashing any console, I'm just sayin xbox has plenty of great exclusives.)

AntoineDcoolette3375d ago

"Haters refuse to put xbla or motion controller games on these exclusive lists purely because MS totally dominate in those fields. "

Nah, I personally refuse to be I have 0 interest in them. I don't include move exclusives either.

firemassacre3375d ago

yea, microsoft has exclusives?

TheDivine3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

@ marshow
Alan wake, lost odyssey, magna carta 2, blue dragon, vepseria, too human, gears, halo 3-odst-reach, hlo wars, forza 3, pgr, trenched, chromehounds, ninjablade, edf 2017, prey, fable 1-2-3, jade empire, infininte undiscovery, banjo kazooie, tooie, nuts and bolts, viva pinata, kameo, last remnant, metro 2033, tenchu, divinity 2, risen, splinter cell conviction, crackdown 1-2, 99 nights 1-2, project sylpheed, mass effect, shadow complex, toy soldiers, limbo, geometry wars, dishwasher, dance central, kinect sports, deca sports, torchlight, kinect adventures, joy ride, yourshape, star wars, codename d, haunt, gunstringer, rise of nightmares, ryse, steel batallion, ufc

The myth is busted.
This isnt even all exclusives. Xbla has tons plus all the indy games and other 360 games. It does need some more big games but i believe we'll see fable 4, alan wake 2, and a few more plus awesome xbla games like bastion, torchlight 2, crimson alliance are coming. Always have gears 3, halo remake/4, forza 4 coming also.

M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L3374d ago

But....they're not first party and I'm pretty sure the Mass Effect series was multiplatform.

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BeastlyRig3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

lack of hardcore exclusives..

Halo 4 next year then what?

If your a kinect fan then 2012 will be amazing year!

Exclusives are not that important really!

Exclusive doesn't mean good game! What if Duke Nukem was xbox or ps3 exclusive..

When it comes to upcoming exclusive shooters pc is best really.. Yeah I know you never heard of them but so what? They exist & are awsome!

3rd person ps3/Xbox..

rpg pc..

mmorpg pc..

sports meh..

adventure game ps3..

sims pc..

indie games pc.. but consoles have good ones also..

Everyone wins really! But some win more!

JeffGUNZ3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

I agree. who cares if it's exclusive or not. Mass Effect 3, Battlefield 3, Gears 3, Forza 4, MW3, etc. Xbox gamers have a lot of "hardcore" games coming to their system.

This whole debate of exclusives is so pointless. I could take 8 exclusive dumps in a bag and sell them, doesn't mean they are the best thing since sliced bread. I think Mass Effect is one of the best game I have played this generation and it's an exclusive now. Additionally, I think COD4 was the best FPS I have played this generation and guess what? That's an exclusive too.

Parapraxis3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

"I'm just sayin xbox has plenty of great exclusives."
...But that's not true at all.

I own a PS3 & 360 also, so no bashing from me either, I'm just living within the confines of REALITY.

Anon19743375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I haven't touched my 360 since I finished Halo Reach, and I probably won't turn it on again until Gears 3. And then what? Another year then Halo 4?

Now, if I only owned a 360 it would be different. While there may be a shortage of exclusive titles that interest me, there's a whack of game coming out that are must play, I just personally prefer the PS3 as that's where all my friends and family are and I had so many hardware issues with my 360 in the past that I really don't trust it.

For existing 360 owners I see nothing to worry about. It's not like the games have totally dried up. And even from a business standpoint, I don't think Microsoft has anything to worry about because Kinect is driving sales. If that weren't the case I think Microsoft would have a problem on their hands, and we were seeing that prior to Kinect's launch in how 360 sales were never able to keep up with the PS3 or Wii and wasn't able to even keep up steady year over year growth. When looking at the consoles side by side, the PS3's greater lineup of exclusives, stable of multiplat games, free online and Blu-Ray appeared to be, at least in my opinion, moving the core gaming crowd over to the PS3.

But that's the thing. Microsoft doesn't need the core audience to drive 360 sales anymore, and as long as existing owners keep buying games - exclusive or not - and Kinect keeps bringing in fresh casuals, Microsoft doesn't have anything to worry about. I think the 360 is in the best position it's been in for years.

ksense3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

if you are a casual gamer then yes you have plenty of games but if you are a core gamer then you pretty much are being thrown a bone every year with gears of war or halo. are you really going to sit there and say I would rather have halo gears every year instead of new ips. before you say Sony does the same shit they do bring out new ips at the same time along with them.

I still haven't seen one core gamer tell me that they were impressed with what Kinect offered and they were going to get one. I have so many xbox friends that don't own a ps3 and none of them even talk/mention Kinect.

TyrionL3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

See your comment is only accurate if you only play exclusives. I don't know anyone that plays ONLY exclusive games. To be honest I really don't know anyone who makes a big deal out of "exclusives" outside this web site. In the REAL world there are plenty of games on all the systems, and the only time this argument would hold any water what so ever is if someone was in the market for a new system and only wanted to play upcoming games. I don't think that’s a very big demographic, do you?

drsnobby3375d ago

The whole exclusives argument is getting old.the top sellers this generation has been multi-platform games.unless the game is mario,halo or gears of war,then this is a mute subject.the xbox brand has more than one money maker,you have XBLA and kinect.i also own a PS3 and exclusives are its shinning points,but to say the 360 has no exclusives or lack there of is misleading.

BlackTar1873375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

The point is not sales. but multi plat are on both systems so exclusives are icing on the cake (bad ref. for me cause i hate icing). I don't understand the gamer mentality to not soak of as many quality games as possible and then on top of that be happy your not getting them.
I understand multi argument but we all get them its the stuff that 1 gets over the other that really put it over the top for me.

Luckily i own and play all platforms but since like above halo reach and alan wake i have only played XBLA games and Madden with friends.

PSN has great games as well. I don't ever hear the xbox fans acknowledge those when they acknowledge there's as part of the exclusive argument. My favorite game DL only has been a psn exclusive in Pixeljunk Monsters HD.

Philoctetes3375d ago

"Haters refuse to put xbla or motion controller games on these exclusive lists purely because MS totally dominate in those fields. "

When you have to point children's kinect games and arcade titles to justify your console's library, you've conceded the argument.

palaeomerus3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

Justifying a library is much easier when you already have a ton of games for a console, most of your friends own that console, and you aren't particularly impressed by exclusives being exclusive most of the time. I have a PS3 but so what? Most of the games I want to play are on 360 anyway. I like the 360 so I might as well buy them for the 360.

I don't particularly CARE about exclusives all that much. Quite a few of them have been pretty boring, niche, or just decent. They don't live up to the hype especially well. I mainly care about GOOD games whether they are multi-platform or mini games or downloadable or whatever.

And I don't worry a bit if people can play them on more than one platform. Most of the big exclusives I WOULD have cared about went multi-platform this gen.

It's not how many exclusives your console has, so much as WHICH exclusives, and it's whether those exclusives are games that I want to play, and how bad I want them. If I don't want them that much then who cares if they are exclusive?

I don't care about Forza games. I barely care about Resistance 3. I don't care about GT games. I barely care about Gears of War 3. I do care about Halo. I did care about Killzone but 3 kind of got old fast and was overly scripted and full of turret sections and the ending was silly.

Screw exclusives. I buy games that I think are good.

TyrionL3374d ago

@ palaeomerus
Man we are on the same page. I really think just about any serious gamer has both systems by now. I don't get the "360 has no exclusive games" argument at all. This gen is on the downhill side, I don't think that exclusive games play as big a role as some people make it out to be this late in the game. You know when all these exclusives would make a splash? Right when a console launches. That is when the average person would pay attention to this kind of stuff. I know a lot of people that game, and a lot with PS3's, and the popular response they give when I talk about an exclusive game is, "Oh that’s not on 360 too", or vice versa. The exclusive thing is only a big deal to people like us, and face it we are the minority. I also think any gamer that would know about exclusives, or be into gaming this much would have both systems by now. I know I do, and I don't have to miss out on anything. I also think that for someone who doesn't have either system yet the upcoming exclusives wouldn't hold much weight. There are just too many games out on both systems for it to really matter, and face it if they don't have one of the systems yet they probably don't follow what’s coming out in the future at all. They just go to the store and see what looks cool to them. I guess my point is that I agree with you, and the later in the generation you get, the less exclusive games will matter to the average Joe.

MOTY3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

@ Minartis

Absolutely correct.

Nobody wants to accept Kinect as a means of exclusive games. Even though it has sold 10 million units. Everyone says that the Wii is the #1 console this gen which is a motion control console for casuals, yet ignore Kinect because it's primarily a casual peripheral right now. Only on N4G which is dominated by a heavily pro Sony crowd can the Wii be acknowledged as the #1 selling console this gen but anything related to Kinect doesn't exist or count as a means for exclusive titles.

Sales alone show that 360's are selling very well and games just as much.

@ marshow

Aside from the Kinect Exclusives....

Gears 3 - Highest selling new IP this gen with an average franchise meta score of 93.5

Forza 4 - Highest rated racing game/sim this gen and holds the highest rating since launch of the franchise where each iteration of the Forza franchise sells more than it's predecessor.

Just because a game is "exclusive" doesn't mean that it's a good game. (Socom 4). All it means is you now have a larger assortment of choices of good or bad games.

fallingdove3375d ago

Funny..your post is pure contradiction.

Here is what I got from it:

-people discount Kinect exclusives because they're not very good. But they are still exclusives!!

-Sales make a good exclusive

-No.. reviews make a good exclusive

-But.. "just because a game is exclusive doesn't mean that it is a good game."

Do you have a point or is your point to pander to every opinion possible?

theonlylolking3375d ago

Gears 3 and Forza 4 are not out yet.

MOTY3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

@ fallingdove

Not sure exactly what you are talking about.

I replied to Minartis (like you are to me) agreeing with him/her and added to their comment. Which is usually common on forums.

As for the rest of your comment, I am not sure what the reason is for it. I am pretty sure my comment was very straight forward in response to other peoples ignorant yet rhetoric questions such as marshow's "Exclusives such as...?" question.

I gave 2 examples of exclusives and how they have been well received sales and review wise, thus showing there is not only a high demand for them, but also how they fared to the reviewers.

Nothing contradictory there.

keeping on topic about "exclusives" as per the topic of the article and people bringing in PS3 and the amount of exclusives they had this year, I just simply stated that just because a game is exclusive doesn't mean people want it, or that it's better than multiplats, it just increases you choices of what's available.

Not sure who you think I was "pandering" too.

Maybe your lack of comprehension is where you are having the issues.

I will speak in your language. PS3 is tha bestez, MS and Kinect suckz. Sony#1.

I guess that is the only thing you understand.

@ theonlylolking

No kidding. My comment was to marshow's comment asking "Exclusives such as...?" and advising 2 of MS's first party games that will be out this year and how popular their franchises are.

Please try and keep up. You are slowing the people down around you.

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kingdoms3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

PS3 fanboys and pro Sony or anti Microsoft media always say the 360 has no games even before the year is up. Hell they start the traditional myth every year with in weeks of the start of each year. They ignore what's coming and cherry pick what they deem worthy of being on the list often times listing what sells too much and is too popular to ignore and ignoring everything else that might be a new less known threat to PS3 in their eyes.

Every year they say these things but by the end of the year the 360 ends up with the same amount of games if not more. Sony doesn't even have any competitive games that will be able to go up against the huge 3rd party games this year. This is why I got rid of my PS3, the games are hyped but are mediocre.

Dont waste time with lists it won't matter to ps3 fanboys even if the list had 100 games; they will find a way. The reason Sony fans bring this up despite their exclusive mostly flopping is because It's their way of dealing with Sony's failed effort to be king. I guess they figure if they say it enough they can brainwash people into not buying the 360. Could also be a response to them thinking Sony has more games so why are they losing let's attack the 360.

Such a strange group of people, grown men and teens actively making issue over how many games they can play over what the other *kids* have.

LocO_o3374d ago

2012 the year of the PS3.

BubbleSniper3374d ago

the lack of exclusives could also mean they are preparing for the next-gen.

i would put money on it. they need a STRONG launch for that BURST start.

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SuperKing3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

Am I the only one that finds this scenario funny?

PS3 was bashed to high heaven during their initial year of having no exclusives even though they still had a number of exclusive games and of course multiplats. Now the PS3 has a far more significant number of exclusives and multiplats yet it's suddenly ok to have a lack of exclusives.

Oh well, PS3 beats the X360 every single year worldwide (and has started to beat the Wii now I hear) so I guess X360 fans are perfectly happy with Kinect Sports Season 2.

alexcosborn3375d ago

The scenario is totally different now. When the PS3 first launched exclusives were few and far between and multi-platform games simply ran better on the 360. Now, with a fully fleshed out online community, Microsoft's advantage lies within Xbox Live. Since so many more people play multiplayer games on Xbox Live - not to mention the fact that Achievements are much more popular than trophies - Microsoft will do just fine this year with only a few exclusives. Will it be enough to keep them afloat in the years to come? We'll have to wait and see.

That being said, I won't lie, the PS3 has a much more compelling lineup this year. There's no doubt it's a great time to own a PS3. Gamers looking for a the cutting edge system that has some of the best single player games should choose the PS3 over the 360 hands down. The reality is that the yearning for more CoD, Gears and Halo is so great that Microsoft will do just fine without a lineup of exclusives as impressive as Sony.

Rynx3375d ago

"not to mention the FACT that Achievements are much more popular than trophies"

I know you tried to be objective in your comment, but THAT particular line was purely subjective. What did you even base that on? Personal preference? Do you even have proof of that? I doubt it.

ABizzel13375d ago

Achievements are more popular than trophies if you only own an Xbox 360. For those of use who own both, they're digital scores which mean the exact same thing.

Now I agree with everything you said in the last paragraph. The PS3 has always had a more diverse range of exclusives compared to the other consoles, but Xbox fans seem just fine playing every Shooter and 3rd party game that comes out, and Nintendo fans seem happy playing every Mario, Platformer, and Party game that comes out. But like I always tell them, they're missing out on some of the best games in every genre by not owning a PS3.

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ABizzel13375d ago

The thing is even early on Sony had a good list of exclusives. Resistance: FOM, Ridge Racer 7, Motorstorm, Virtua Fighter 5, Ninja Gaiden Sigma (kind of), Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, and Ratchet and Clank all came out in the first year of release with Uncharted coming out a week after the official 1st year.

How on earth was that a bad line-up of games? 6 exclusives, 1 timed exclusive, and 1 remake exclusive All of which were highly rated games. That was a media bias, because they wanted to see returning franchises rather than something new.

palaeomerus3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

Ridge Racer 7 is pretty much Ridge Racer 6. Virtua Fighter 5 is multiplatform.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a remake of a last gen game that was exclusive to XBox.

If that list of exclusives was so impressive why did you feel the need to pad it?

ABizzel13374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

@palaeomerus

You're stupid. Did you not see me say Virtua Fighter was a timed exclusive, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma was a remake (although the best in the current Ninja Gaiden games IMO). If the list wasn't so impressive you wouldn't feel the need to downplay it.

Even without those games there was still Resistance: FOM, Motorstorm, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted. 6 very impressive games in their first year.

Can the same be said for MS and Nintendo? Absolutely not.

Microsoft didn't have a good game until a full year later (Gears 1), and didn't get anything else worthwhile until 2007 Mass Effect, Halo 3, and Bioshock (which as you said with Virtua Fighter was multiplatform).

Nintendo was even worse.

I know because I actually owned them all, unlike certain individuals.

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Venox20083375d ago

actually i want exclusives on any system, so there would be a motivation to buy it

Jdoki3375d ago

Exactly. Consoles need a unique selling point that consumers can attach to, to either justify their purchase or make them want to purchase.

For some people that selling point may be Kinect or Blu-Ray playback or XBL or Move or WiiMote or WiiFit etc etc

For me it comes down to games, and considering I can get multi-plats of almost equal quality on either 360 or PS3 it's those unique experience or exlusives that will dictate where I spend money - and in my opinion there are more, and better exclusives on PS3. (I do own a 360 as well, but I bought that Day 1, when the 360 had some interesting and fun exclusives - but those days have long gone)

BlackTar1873375d ago

i agree. I hae when exclusive go multi. I buy my systems because i enjoy the stuff i get on one over the other. Please keep exclusives important my 360 fans. Don't let them not release more then 2-3 a year and be happy with it.

LocO_o3374d ago

If exclusives sells consoles then why is the 360 still selling?

Call od Duty does not have that much power or does it.

Venox20083374d ago

hmm.. interesting question I must say I could name some of the reasons but don't know if I am right :)

1. Piracy (and when new games come, new custom firmware comes faster than PS3's)
2. Maybe patriotism in USA (to buy American product) :))))
3. Shooter fans (gears of war series, halo) ..to some (oh to many :)) those games are gods :))
4. Xbox Live
5. maybe even many friends have xbox'es so they buy them too :))

Darth Stewie3375d ago

They don't lack exclusives (so many Kinect titles coming), they just lack core exclusives that their original supporters want.

M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L3375d ago

Yes.

But of course the whole exclusive issue will only apply to the PS3. Back then, the PS3 was bashed for not having exclusives. Now it has exclusives, it's okay to have a lack of exclusives on the 360.