Nintendo’s Katsuya Eguchi would rather focus on what makes Wii U original rather than compare specs with the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.
finally someone who realize you would be comparing a 2012 console to 2005 consoles.
If it's not as powerful as 360/PS3, it's a problem.
actually no, if its not MORE powerful then a PS3/360, its a problem
It will be "MORE powerful" than the 360, that's for sure.
It will be a lot more powerful than both the 360 and the PS3. @bwazy That is usually how the companies measure success. Seems like a decent way to judge it if you plan to stay in business.
It will be so powerful, it will be able to bench press 500 lbs, and compete in triathlons.
This just sounds like the controller is the only selling point. There has to be more that makes Wii U unique.
You'd think so, but that didn't stop the Wii from being extremely successful.
Guess that depends on what you define as successful. If from the US I assume you think that successful means "sold a crap ton"
It's about GAMES more than it is about being unique. Being different just for the sake of being different is mostly a terrible idea.
i dont understand why people compare 360 to PS3 i mean you do see the difference in the quality of games that comes out right?
While I'd like to agree with you it really comes down to preference, If you like Halo or Gears of War then 360 is for you, Where as if you like God of War or Uncharted PS3 would be you console of choice. If we're talking mulitplat then yeah PS3 will win every time, But like when it come to getting blood from a stone convincing MS's Mindless zombie masses (And I dont mean all Xbox fans, Just the ones drawling while reading this) is a waste of time that could be spent gaming ;D
@zerocrosing. i agree with half your statement. but ps3 winning everytime on multiplats? where have you been all these years?
@admiralthrawn87 What I realy meant is it's better technically, The PS3 is superior under the hood but not in a popularity contest. When it comes to multiplat the difference is hardly notable but it does exist.
rarely does it outperform 360 on a sales or technical level on multiplats.
@Zerocrossing Actually it depends on the size of your company. If you're small, you go with the 360 and port to the PS3 or go 360 exclusive. If you're a big company, you have options.
of course you cant compare wiiU to ps3. PS3 does remote play and transferring anywhere via wifi or 3g (ps vita) WiiU you cant do that, so you cant compare that
Except it's not original. It's just a blending of other ideas. And it looks like an Apple product. And it will come with unoriginal games. *sigh*
It's a total mystery to me why some people claim Nintendo are the kings of originality because they gave us the Wii and DS, yet their software is arguably the least original of the lot. At the end of the Wii's life you would have thought they would make an effort, but we get crap like Wii Play Motion.
Just like with the PS3 and 360's launch, price is going to be most important. I hope the Wii U, PS4, and Xbox 720 don't cost anymore than $400. That would help us gamers out so much!
If M$ and $ony want a more powerful console with update tech then $500 is the magic number for the 720 and PS4 and that price is with both companies taken a loss. It cost about $500 to build a PC that can run Crysis at 40 FPS. Videocard: PowerColor AX4870 512MB Price: $175 CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 2.5GHz Wolfdale Price: $71 Motherboard: MSI P43 Neo3-F LGA 775 Price: $90 Memory: Crucial 2GB DDR2 SDRAM 800 Price: $23 Optical Drive: Samsung SH-S223F 22X DVDR Price: $25 Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB Price: $50 Case and Power Supply: Rosewill TU-155 II 500 Black Price: $75 In tech standard this is considered old tech and the 720 and 360 will need far more than this for the next consoles. Edit: At below - I know that consoles are custom made. I was just throwing some figures out on how much it cost to build a decent PC that can run Crysis at 40 FPS, a game that I expect the next gen games to look and perform like. Sony will probably use an updated Cell as it cost too much to develop a new one and MS will more than likely to the same.
What are you talking about lol, the graphics card will be custom made
Except ms and sony buying it in a massive bulk, will be able to get them at a further discount than you or i can. I don't think sony and ms will release another console above the $400 add to that you have another yr or 2 before them need the hardware, so it will be cheaper still. Would rather focus originality than compare specs with the ps3/360, nice idea the problem is a majority of nintendo lineup is continued from the nes/snes with the newest pikman being a gc game. Now does this mean a positive shift at nintendo where the will try and bring out alot more new ip's to expand their enjoyable but old first party games. Or is it going to be nintendo boasting about their new innovative controller and how critical it is to getting the full experience, not holding my breath on the first option.
Nobody will be going with off the shelf parts. Sony will probably go with a Modified Cell with 10-12 cores. MS will probably go with a modified Power8 CPU similar to what they have now but with a lot of new tech like 8 four thread cores. MS will also probably use another custom GPU based on ATI's upcoming architecture. But like Mad Jedi said, they will pay far less than we would in a store or online. And most likely MS will use a CPU/GPU on one die again to cut cost drastically. Both Sony and MS spent over $200 on their CPU and GPU(combined). MS will spend 30-40% less this time by using a fused chip. I do like the way Nintendo is playing this. I'm not sure that they are fooling anyone but the fans though. If the others rush before they are ready. Their machines won't be as big of a jump over the Wii U in 2013. If they wait Nintendo will have two year headstart. But I do believe MS will release a new console next year also.
Don’t blame the tools for lack of originality blame the developers, no many are willing to risk doing something new or innovated. Is all about money now they just can’t risk it, but are still developers try to make could things but those are the minority, you can create the most innovated game on any console you don’t need new tech for that…
We wont have this graphics war, if the power is not important. This gen, the one with the bigger stick wins.
I never cared much for the graphics, sure its nice to look at but more often than not you just get a generic watered down gaming experience where you have your hand held from beginning till end. If devs could put more time into developing immersive story's compelling character,s and most importantly original ideas it would be great but this gen graphics are king and story's are left to the back burner, Who cares about the story when you can blow stuff up in HD you say? Well I for one do, Blowing things to pieces without due cause kind feels dumb, I like my story telling but sadly find myself almost alone in that thought... Well with games getting more generic and the gameplay experience becoming more hollow I've just about quit playing most games. I really hope the next gen gets it right.
Immersive stories and compelling characters.. Princess Peach gets kidnapped, and Mario, the little plumber has to rescue her. 10/10
Yeah I'm not gonna argue with that it's a given. Mario has a childish story but its designed that way to appeal to all ages. Have you ever played Muramasa: The Demon Blade, The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess, Metroide Prime Trilogy or Okami? Unfortunately other than those titles most of the Wii's best titles weren't released outside of Japan. as my statement above its directed to all current gen consoles not just the Wii. last bubble so this will be my final comment here, I'll rap up by saying this. Sure games like COD, GoW and Uncharted are great fun but we can and have done better so lets not get stuck in a rut playing the same game genres over and over and try something new once in awhile.
Video games should be centered around their fun factor. Nowadays, developers spend too much time on graphics (and even story). It's the reason why Nintendo can release a game they released 10 years ago and still have it play excellently. Ocarina of Time while having a good story, is centered around it's dungeon gameplay and puzzle solving. The "fun factor" should be the first thing a developer looks at. After that, I'd say it's order would be story, and then graphics.
OK, you are out of bubbles so I won't say anything much, and I give you credit for humouring me. I haven't played most of the games you mention, but I have beaten Metroid Prime 1 and 2. However, they are both relatively pretty games too. I'm totally up for playing something new once in a while. I just bought El Shaddai.
No amount of distractions will take away from the fact that this supposed "Next Gen" console is has little to no competitive advantage over 5 year old current gen consoles. If the WiiU struck anyone as anything as Special as say the Wii when it was 1st announced then it would've been spoken aboutin that context. Then stating it wont be cheap doesnt help us view it any differently than we are.
Well we don't truly know the Wii U's tech specs or what the Wii U will be capable of yet. The one thing that is certain is that this current gen is getting stale. Its becoming stagnant we are getting more and more rehashes of existing IP's with vary little innovation and most games that try something new and interesting get shunned by many self proclaimed hard core gamers for there inferior graphics. In short something must be done and a beef up of graphics just isn't gonna cut it.
What is original about the Wii U? Can someone remind me please?
What's original about any console? They all do the same thing, play games.
Maybe the fact that you can play your console without using a TV? Or maybe the fact that you can view maps and HUDs on an external screen. The fact that the controller has a camera, mic, and speakers on it, eliminating the need for headsets and and buying a camera. Besides, all we know about the Wii U is the controller details really. Details about the actual features of the actual console still haven't been revealed yet.
So basically they merged a Wii and a DS. How original.
It's original for consoles. And is the Move original? Is Kinect? Is PlayStation Network? Is achievements? No. 99% of things done on ALL console AREN'T original. But I think we can all agree that Nintendo has been the MOST original out of the 3 companies. We've seen these things before, but in other separate devices. Nintendo has taken all of these things and put it into one controller. A controller like this has never existed, so it's new. Also, you must've forgot about the using ur console without needing a TV. That feature will definitely come in handy.
It's not original for consoles. Frickin' Dreamcast's control is pretty much the predecessor to this. They literally took a DS and a Wii and put it together. How is that original? What "original" experiences are you going to get out of it? Nothing. Playing Zelda on the go without needing the Wii U console? Say hi to the DS side. Motion control gimmick in said game? Say hi to the Wii side. Since when was addition counted as originality? Originality means new and unique, not pre-existing yet added. Marketing something as original when it's not is the issue here. Kinect, PSN, Achievements are not what's being discussed.
I love my dreamcast, but just because it had a memory card that allowed you to play a game on it doesn't mean it's anywhere remotely related to this. The Wii U is certainly doing something original. The controller functions as a separate console as well as a device to control a console. If you can name another console that's done this, then be my guest. And no, a PSP having minimal connections to a PS3 is not the same.
@ Shok Why would I want to look at map on the controller when it will mean taking my eyes off the TV and looking into my lap? No other ideas for this amazingly original piece of kit? I have to agree with Dragon Knight: the Dreamcast was the precursor to this, and the Gamecube had similar functionality when connecting a GBA to the GC, and I might add from personal experience, that it was crap. The Nintendo guy is talking about originality, and there's very little on show here.
you are just looking for something to nag about. He thinks they can make something original with it. What is so hard for you to understand?
Crazy to think Nintendo will be graphics king of consoles. Well... for a while anyway. I think once people start comparing games side by side, we will see just how outdated the PS3 and 360 realy are. I love how Nintendo didn't bow down to Bluray and did their own thing. I'm going to assume MS will probably do the same. Would love to see Rage or Battlefield 3 Wii U vs PC/360/PS3. I'm not digging that ccontroller though, hope they have other options.
nintendo are in trouble. i hope they are listening to the criticism and just have some damn common sense to upgrade the specs. ps3 level? fvck out of here! its 2011 not 2007.
I'm kind of scared of this way of thinking. Every next gen company's will try to find a new way of playing video games, and the current controllers we have and love will be gone.
usually when a company concentrates on one aspect of a product you usually know overall its not gonna be that good (I'm hoping this isn't the case though, but I'm not sure they should be concentrating on the controller) Example when a games developer concentrates on how good their grass technology is and the rest of the games crap lol.
Can't really say anything bout the Wii U how to compare to the Xbox 360 or PS3. it can play GAMES FULL HD 1080p. Until then have to wait till TGS 11' to see the full specs of the hardware including the processor power to compare but no one don't know only Nintendo does know. but can't really compare till we have the final specs
Of course not. You don't compare a Porsche to a Ford Pinto do you? So why compare outdated tech from last gen with new tech for the next gen? The Wii u will be a joke until Sony announces the exact same concept then it will be the best thing in gaming only to be forgotten about like Move when they fail to steal sales from Nintendo
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