Nintendo is Killing WiiU Before Its Even Out

PCN: "Whenever a new console is announced everyone gets a bit excited. It’s a new console, which means new games, new hardware, and normally new features. Of course all the standard features from the current generation are normally carried over too. That is unless you are Nintendo which sees no need for anything beyond new games. Wii was a success, but WiiU might be dying before it even hits store shelves."

[TheViper]

Article has more wrong data than a glitching Star Trek droid.

But considering the source and the topic at hand, is it really surprising?

[jwk94]

The only wrong data in that article is the controller aspect, it can support wii controllers, other than that, it's fact.

[VampiricDragon]

actually theres not one thing thats fact.

The only fact is Nintendo is killing _______ before its even out. You can put in any name and the articles will come out.

I have 10 dvd players from all my systems. I really dont need one.

[Computersaysno]

Wrong data or not, we all saw how powerful the internet was when it came to shaping public opinion over a product with the negative press surrounding PS3's launch.

Nintendo should fear the wrath of the internet even more 5 years on. It can be be powerful enough to seriously impact a new games console.

[Louis_Guzman]

Lol, if the internet is anything to go by, than the Wii should have been a failure from the get go. How's that working out for ya?

[N4g_null]

Wow this kid thinks the Internet shapes peoples minds lol. The ps3 had no games and people didn't want to ditch DVDs and oh yeah the price.

Wii play bowling sold tons of wiis. The wii was deemed active gaming by your parents lol. Then adults decided to spread the word before a resseion hit.

Not sure why these kids believe in cliches. It's just perception which means nothing in the real world. It only works on people who are govern off nothing but perpressure.

When it comes to gaming it's about word of mouth and show me. If you can't do that then you are a smoke blower.

[jwk94]

So Vampiric when did the WiiU get blu-ray and dvd functionality?

[Computersaysno]

The internet can and does shape opinion and has become an incredibly powerful social tool. Anyone who doesn't believe or understand (scissor...louis) that in 2011 that needs a massive wake up call, because they know nothing about the modern world.

What you might to refer to as the original scepticism of wii prelaunch on the net came from the CORE gamer contingency that failed to see a powerful casual movement just waiting to happen. Not casuals. Wii always was/is aimed at casuals. So no casual/parent/housewife who bought it cared about what you or me or any core gamer thought about it and wrote online in games forums or games sites etc before its launch.

Ps3 however was targeted at core gamers as a core machine. The launch price alone made that obvious. So when it came to core gamers talking about the machine online in their forums and such then yes, it did indeed affect the early stages of PS3's life negatively.

You could also observe this affect with RROD and 360. Online communities identified a problem first and the damage to 360's reputation certainly caused sales to be lower than they might have been, as many have pointed out.

So now to my point as observed earlier.

Nintendo are talking about selling this thing to core gamers, they are talking about pricing it for core gamers. If it starts its life with a bad rep amongst core gamers influenced by sites and articles such as this then it will find reaching favour with said audience considerably more difficult....

[BeOneWithTheGun]

I would take no dvd if it shaves 50 bucks off the price. I use my ps3 for bluray anyway

[N4g_null]

Computerssayno then if the Internet blow back is going to hurt any one then it will be pro ps3 and xbox fan sites who spread the wiiu is the controller fud.

Opinion is easy to change since people have short memories and simply buy what they want rather than what so one tells them to.

Remember the whole n4g don't buy cod or how about ps3 gamers don't play cod then it out sells uncharted lol.

What about every one is going to get a pspgo! Or the famed ps3 will be second this year chants. Or better yet hddvd is going to win. Or every one is watching blu ray. Net flix says hi.

These are called bubble are hype and are based on opinion. The Internet is a great place to vent. Do people do what they say no. Talk is cheap and this is what you are basing the future off of.

This is what fuxked a lot of developers up was believe what multiple account holders where saying. These are the same people who have time to make trolling based web sites.

[Sarcasm]

Some of you guys are missing the point that if Nintendo is truly targeting hardcore + casual gamers, then that means Nintendo needs to give people a reason to ditch or not buy a PS3/360 instead. Instead they are taking out a lot of the reasons why people own a PS3/360 which is the games + other features.

Why would any person buy a $299 (or however much it will cost) Wii U to play Battlefield 3 when you can buy a PS3/360 that does the same thing but have a solid network infrastructure for online gaming already set in place as well as having all those other features that the Wii U will lack.

[Soldierone]

There are actual links in regards to anything needing factual backing which provide direct quotes from Nintendo stating so. One WiiU controller, nothing was mentioned that other controllers wont be used, and why would you buy a brand new console just to use it as a Wii? And WiiU will not include support for DVD or Blu ray playback.

The rest of the article is an opinion piece on rather or not these decisions could hurt the console or if other companies have just simply gone too far in offering too much for a game console. Too bad people won't read past the headline huh? Or read it with a negative attitude in mind and only clicked to put someone's opinion down.

[NLGSean]

The Wii sold 87 million units worldwide WITHOUT DVD playback... So all this talk about not having a DVD and Bluray player is BS... I have 2 Bluray players and about 8 DVD players in my house with all my systems, why do I need another?

Also Reggie Fils-Aime stated 2 Wii controllers could be used...

http://wii.ign.com/articles...

[Soldierone]

@NLG the article is about just that if people would read it....It simply asks if the other two companies have spoiled us with features and if a pure console can withstand such motives.

and if im not mistaken you buy a WiiU for the WiiU controller, so why do Wii controllers matter? Stop trying to find ways to flame people....It states one WiiU controller, nothing else.

[Livin_in_a_box]

Nintendo did state one WiiU controller but as I reported at Games Pundit and more recently someone on Kotaku, 4 WiiU controllers can be used at one time- it's just a huge price issue. Here are the articles in question:

http://m.kotaku.com/5812512...
http://gamespundit.com/1521...
http://gamespundit.com/1510...

Also I think the DVD debate is pointless. Who hasn't got a DVD player in their home? Blu-ray is different because, as the article says, it is owned by Sony and putting Blu-ray in will cause uneccesary pricing increases inevitably.

WiiU's biggest problem now is the bad press it's getting and if Nintendo can pull off something special, I just can't see it being the same runaway success. Also, I think re-using the Wii name isn't the best idea either because people will think it's just a rehash. But it's worked to some extent with the 3DS but only time will tell.

[SinnedNogara]

Who cares if it doesn't have DVD or Blu-ray support. I have:

A Netflix account
Blu-ray player in living room (my dad's)
A PS3
My TV has a built in DVD player
Three PCs
My laptop

My cousin lives next door and he has:

PS3
PS2
DVD player
A PC

Yeah, I can watch movies wherever the hell I want :D

[Jejojaja]

So tired of these articles...

Can't we just wait and see if it actually fails or not.

[VampiricDragon]

exactly and so far nintendo hasnt had a "failed" system ever aside form the virtual boy. They make profit on every one of there systems and games basically

[jukins]

n64 and gamecube say hi!!!! only things that failed harder than those systems were 3d0 and virtual boy.

[Louis_Guzman]

Gamecube and N64 made a profit,kiddo. Btw, you forgot to add Atari Jaguar to that list.

[ClimateKaren]

@Louis_Guzman
If you measure the success of a system by whether or not it was profitable, then sure. As a gamer, I measure success in how much use I get out of it. The N64 and Gamecube had horribly disappointing libraries aside from the 1st party software, while the competition offered gamers a huge array of titles to choose from. I was forced to finally buy a Playstation for lack of anything to play on my N64, and stayed with Sony the next generation, though I did eventually pick up a Gamecube as well, mainly for Zelda.

Awesome nick btw.

[N4g_null]

Jukins nothing beats the go pspgo did it even have games released for it? Yet the virtual boy was there ya go before it's time with 3d gaming lol. No one cares but those controllers where boss.

I would pay good money for a wiiu mod using those controller grips.

Even patcher hated it and he is a Sony fanboy.

[jukins]

ok scissor you're right forgot about the pspgo lol. but really you guys think the nintendo 64 with its expensive cartridges in the cd rom age wasnt fail? or the gamecube it sold so bad that nintendo had to halt production so overstock could be sold. come on fanboys.

why do you think nintendo went low cost with the wii? it wasnt because their previous systems sold great lol. @Louis did I say they didnt make a profit or did I just say they failed? huh "kiddo"

no matter what way you twist or no matter how many mario tatoos you have to deny n64 and gamecube being a failure is just pure fanboyism. in fact it was the very failure of nintendo that allowed sony to take over the video game market for over a decade, and that in turn spurned microsoft to jump in and here we are today.

[ali711arab]

So true

and @FredEffinChopin

I could give you 20 titles right now for the N64 that don't include the words Zelda or Mario that were amazing. Play more games.

also see this
http://n4g.com/news/787545/...

[wollie]

only 20? lols

[Green_Ranger]

A ps3 website wrote this?...Welp, nothing to see here folks

[ClimateKaren]

Not that I necessarily disagree with the point made in the article, but I agree (with you). I don't think a Playstation or Xbox site has the right to go around trying to write objective looking articles about how Nintendo's ______ sucks, and vice versa.

[pcz]

surprise surprise

[maddfoxx]

I'm just glad that Nintendo isn't the only console maker around. The "Big Three" all offer something that helped move gaming forward and in different directions.

Microsoft helped connect millions of console gamers with the use of an internet connection. There is really no need to buy two controllers if your friends have the same system and games and a reliable internet connection.

Sony brought some nice controller innovations and DVD playback, CD playback help make today's consoles multimedia hubs.

Nintendo gave us great handhelds along with a console built around motion sensing.

As for the Wii-U, I dont think it really does anything to help give console gamers a new experience, but as long as the games are great I'll probably end up buying one anyway.

Edit: The last paragraph of this article is just unbelievable. I doubt anyone's mom would buy a Wii to play blurays on.

[jukins]

while i dont see the wii u controller being all that special it is the selling point, and being out before the next ps/xbox this just gives sony and m$ more incentive to really think through their next consoles.

[maddfoxx]

I don't think the Wii-u controller will have the same impact as the Wii controller did. I dont see Microsoft trying to come up with an similar idea anytime soon and some can argue that Sony has a jump on Nintendo with the Vita. I need more information and some hands on time with the Wii-u before I can make a judgement.

Edit: Phantom disagrees? This is why I hate n4g. I dont care if people disagree with me, but not knowing the reason really urks me.

[jukins]

i agree with you. i dont think they'll copy the idea but at the least this will get them thinking.

[AWBrawler]

why the hell would i take advice on a Nintendo product from PS3Center.com????

[PygmelionHunter]

Because you're a Sony fanboy who wants to sleep better tonight by having people agree with your BS thinking?

[snipes101]

With the laundry list of developers already saying great things about it and getting on board to develop for it...I can't really see how WiiU is shaping up to be a failure. Just to wait see what happens when it comes out and quit writing shit for hits.

[gumgum99]

"The media is doing baseless speculation on the Wii U Before Its Even Out"

*fixed*

[Raider69]

Well the FACT is SIMPLE : Another console that im going to get for sure and that will stand right beside my PS3 and Xbox 360!Bring on the games!

[N4g_null]

This is what people fail to see many gamers will buy this console and then choose Sony or ms or get both if the game warrant it.

Sony and ms need game innovations not more services or copy cats.

[Ima9er4Life]

Ok, I don't get Nintendo fanboys with the wii and wiiU. But I ain't goin to hate, but it seems to me that if you were to say Modern Warfare, Battlefield, Bioshock, etc etc, what system you rather get it for?The PS3 or 360? I just know I ain't pickin it up for wiiU "the children system". The wii will be Nintendo's last "sellin like hotcakes" system. Not even my kids want dat, maybe my son tho

[chrisgay]

"Give me good games and I still will hold an interest in the product, right? Nah, Nintendo decided to strip even more features out of the device. This time stating that Blu-ray and DVD movie playback will not be included in WiiU."

The internet is often praised for allowing almost anyone to make their voices heard, a new era in free speech. This writer is wasting his opportunity to write something worthwhile, instead, expertly choreographing mindless attacks on his keyboard, resulting in a waste of everyone's time.

This paragraph in particular took the biscuit though. He briefly mentions the idea of quality games being released for the console, but then questions Nintendo's integrity in regards to producing said games, by questioning the lack of media playback options! Though of course, he may be suggesting that good games won't instill a continued interest in a gaming console alone, in which case, I am afraid he has chosen the wrong hobby and one certainly could not consider his "writing" an alternative- being of no worth whatsoever.

I use AdBlock Plus to improve my web browsing experience, whitelisting websites when I consider their content or services to be of worth and value. This website will remain blocked.

I hate the man who wrote this article.

[Soldierone]

Maybe you should finish reading the article. About where it asks if other companies have spoiled the pure gaming mentality consoles once had...

However a majority of people already proved they don't read past headlines when another site posted "left handed controllers" and people were in outrage about the idea. You could write "Nintendo is the God of Gaming" and talk about the failed Gamecube or not talk about Nintendo at all, and people would still argue over the title.

[TBONEJF]

The only thing that's killing the new system is the name nothing else.

[DNAbro]

Actually the one controller is completely wrong. Nintendo has now said it can support more than one. I assume they don't want to say much about it because it will be expensive as hell for one controller.

And seriously why is a site dedicated to the ps3 even mentioning wii u?

[NLGSean]

LOL.. A PS3 website covering Nintendo? What next? Team Xbox talking about the Vita?

Instead of trying to bash Nintendo for a few hits why don't you talk about the PS3 and Vita and the games Sony showed at E3?

[SilentNegotiator]

PS3center is the ps3 equivalent of PlanetXbox360.com

Playstation Lifestyle is a much better site for news that doesn't deviate much from the Playstation brand.

[matey]

Why try and bash a system with Custom Radeon HD GPU using there best graphic tech to date and a Power 7 CPU with lots of memory 4 extreme gameplay ect then u have the Controller way better than wiimote in games like Ghost Reckon u can use it like the PDA's the troops actually use in real life Ubisoft call it crosscam its so good im buying it day 1 plus IBM/AMD hint at there WiiU chips bringing the very best of there tech.

[solidworm]

good news hope Nintendo go the way of the fkin dodo

[Kemicalbeliefs]

I don't think it will fail at all. Nintendo can be quite the company when it comes to getting folk to buy their consoles.
They'll release a few Mario games, updated versions etc, they'll spam the advertising with fun games and people will buy it in the millions. The casual gamer in heaven.

The gamer is more astute and will not be suckered as much but I'm sure quite a few will still buy it. Especially those with kids. We try to get our kids to love the games on 360 or PS3 but Nintendo hit the spot with kiddy games and casuals.

[Kos-Mos]

Apparently you think of yourself as an adult. What games are you trying to get the kids to like?
gears?gta?gow?cod?halo?me?
Are those games for adults?

How about Little King`s Story on Wii? Have you tried that one? Seen all the intertextual the game has? The adultness in the apparently childish surface?

Adultness contains intelligence, not holding a gun or ripping heads off.

[Kemicalbeliefs]

I'm not apparently an adult, I am one and with kids too.
I'm also not that daft or completely bereft of any brains to play games in an age category too high for them particularly with blood, guts, gore and f's.
Theres some mighty assumptions about me that you've made there.

The Wii has more cutesy appeal for children, as experienced in my own living room quite a lot.
The PS3 and 360 are more catered for me.
Intelligence eh? next you're going to tell me the Titanic has sunk.

[Kos-Mos]

You didnt answer my question. Blood? Guts? Gore? F`s?
Is that what you consider adult?

Why are you talking about titanic?

You`re obviously a child in an adult body. God save your children for having a parent like you.

[Kemicalbeliefs]

Yes.

[Kos-Mos]

And you try to get your kids to love them since they contain blood etc?
It seems you set the bear-trap for yourself here.

But to enlighten you, violent games are childish games.

[Simco876]

I don't have a 854328 DVD players or 10 Blu-Ray players in my house because of one simple reason...

I bought a PS3, and that solved all those problems. 1 unit that can do it all or 4-5 units for Blu-Ray/DVD/Gaming.

I want my Entertainment center clean, thank you

[Ness-Psi]

Does anyone know if this uses the same sensor bars from the Wii. if so i'll be dissapointed i was hoping for something more intergrated. it looks like a sensor at the top of the controller?

[TheViper]

You can use the sensor bar from the Wii but as you correctly noted, the Wii U controller itself also has the LED lights and may be used as well.

[Achtung]

ps3center... pfff!!!

[spektical]

the wiiU is still in last place in terms of HD gaming ( finally entering). Moreover, the author brings up valid points, only one wiiU controller can be used at a time... which makes it pointless to buy extra of these controllers.

Additionally, everyone is confused (intelligent gamers, the casual market, and the business market). Why release a controller that plays the same as a handheld device.. its a real head-scratcher. I see nothing innovative about this, its simple streaming from a console to a handheld device.

Yet, even through this, i may be obliged to buy one for Super Smash Bros which is, at least for me, the ultimate party game.

[ChickeyCantor]

" which makes it pointless to buy extra of these controllers. "

Nintendo never said you can buy them separately...

"Why release a controller that plays the same as a handheld device.. its a real head-scratcher. I see nothing innovative about this, its simple streaming from a console to a handheld device."

Yeah cause touchscreen input for a home console is so oldschool...
Its not just "streaming". There is a touchscreen and Gyroscopes in there. It opens doors for developers. A secondary display allowed for a new kind of gameplay in Ghost Recon. Or the way ubi's new FPS shooter plays.

Just because you don't see it doesn't make it "not innovative"

[spektical]

actually at our school.. accredited to be one of the top engineering schools in the country, also found that the WII U is not overly innovative and it will cause confusion upon entering the stock market, which will only be corrected by having proper demonstrations of high quality games. Otherwise the market (casual) will see a pointless 200+ console that has an "itouch" for a controller.

* and i dont agree with everything this author said.. he clearly doesn't know any details at all, but he brings up the point of confusion.

[ChickeyCantor]

" accredited to be one of the top engineering schools in the country"

Doesn't mean a thing.

"which will only be corrected by having proper demonstrations of high quality games"

Which where the innovation kicks in. It opens doors for developers.

" Otherwise the market (casual) will see a pointless 200+ console that has an "itouch" for a controller."

So you say that by not correctly promoting the product you will give the wrong idea( no sh/t? ). But that doesn't mean the product itself is by that definition an "itouch".

You are mixing the 2. Actual product and bad promotion are two different things.

I don't recall the "itouch" functioning as a secondary screen and a traditional controller.
Ubisoft already showed a glimps of the possibilities with the controller. ( and not to forget Nintendos tech demos)

And you claiming to be on a "school" which is suppose to be one of the top engineering schools in your country just makes it sound stupid. Its fine when one can not process creative ideas with what has been given, but that doesn't mean the product itself isn't innovative.

This product is a door opener for developers. It changes how games could be played( motion + touchscreen + traditional input). And if thats not innovation for gameplay, then what is?
You see it as a "handheld" type of thing, maybe you are limiting yourself and should broaden your spectrum.

[spektical]

idk about you, but i could sync my itoch to my PC and play games and have them stream to the PC...

promoting and making a device goes hand in hand. not two different things.

For example Dimitris Alopioltas, A Microsoft Researcher, University of Athens, University of Toronto, and current professor at UCSC, has run into the problem of having a product in which the product is difficult to market, hence his interface takes a huge dip.

The answer? well the answer lies in the marketing department. He has to make an excuse for people to use this app. I can't talk much about the app much more without disclosing information he wished not be shared. But its a pretty ingenious idea, where he incorporates society norms, and attempts to present a product with interfaces that will appeal. Otherwise you have a pile of turd wasting away, because no one gets the POINT of it.

again not two things, in fact one in the same. I refute the product is an open window to anything, because there is nothing new about this. Its a handheld device that has streaming from a console. has been done before just recently with modded itouches. I encourage you to come to Northern California, and you will see what I'm talking about at the Stanford Labs... amazing things i tell you. Unfortunately, we at UCSC always get things a year late, but we will have hands on equipment next year.

anyways i diverge. The most important part of any product (that is a commodity) on the planet earth is money. If your financial assets do not support your product, that is a huge problem.

[ChickeyCantor]

"idk about you, but i could sync my itoch to my PC and play games and have them stream to the PC...
"

LOL.

I'm not even gonna get into this. Cause you obviously missed the point of WiiU.

[Titanz]

C'mon...

ps3center.net?

Can't you people see the irony in this?

[Ck1x]

To say Nintendo is killing a system that is still very much under development and at least a year away from being released. Nintendo are geniuses at creating lots of interest around their new tech and they have the hype machine in full swing here... Any and just about everything that is in the gaming news is predominantly about what Nintendo is doing right now, not Sony nor Microsoft! This amount of attention and coverage would cost them a fortune because all it will take is one official announcement from Nintendo on how powerful this thing really is and the world will be listening when and if that time comes:)

[Fallouts]

Goodness! Give it time... And I don't need another movie player...

[jinjojuice]

ive got my ps3 for blu rays.i use my wii for gaming only, dont need dvd on wiiu just games thats what it should be its what nintendo do best.more mario,zelda,fzero,waverace,sta rfox,marokart bring em on in 1080p.

[SteveSmith]

Lol, WiiU is dooooooommmmmeeeeeddd! This reminds me of all the "Ps3-is-doomed" articles.

[Solo227]

Im seeing alot of dumb responses... The article made alot of sense... And I dont see where the issue is coming from...

They was suppose to show us the system itself... Instead we seen nothing but the controller... It was like a 6 min demo and we never seen them using two controllers at the sametime which says alot...

The Wii was built upon being family entertainment... Something that everybody can join in on AT THE SAMETIME... If two ppl cant use that controller at once... Nintendo definitely is killing itself...

Comparing this to PS3's isnt even close... Cuz Sony and smart gamers knew the problems Sony had would be cured over time...

-Launch price
-Small list of AAA Games
-Crappy Ports

2 years in all of those issues were non existent...

Disregarding multiplayer offline games and no DVD playback is gonna be a major issue... Anyway you look at it cuz they prolly will NEVER be added to the system...

[SinnedNogara]

You do know it's gonna support Classic Controllers, Wii Remotes, and any accessories that were released with the Wii. The rumors are saying the WiiU can only support one TABLET controller, not one controller in general. Even so this rumor isn't confirmed or denied yet.

Hell, my TV has a built in DVD player, but I hardly use it anyway thanks to Netflix. If it was on the Wii, it's certainly gonna be on the WiiU.

[Darkfiber]

Yeah, cause the lack of features the Wii had REALLY kept it from selling, huh?

This will make no difference to Joe Average and Sally Homemaker.

[Jack-Dangerously]

You ALMOST had a good point if you hadn't presented it like an egotistical child. You have a superiority complex kid.

But I'm no hater. It's not really your opinion that's the problem. It is bad attitudes such as yours that over-saturate and bring this entire site down.

OT: I'm sure plenty of people will love the new tech. Seems to be better than the wii, that's for sure.

[BlueEye]

Can't blame them, it had big expectations but its such a big meh!

[DW74]

Inflammatory opinion piece. Article voted down.