The industry's best known analyst, Wedbush Securities' Michael Pachter, has offered his verdict on this year's E3 show, calling the expo an event that "continues to get better and better", while damning Nintendo's Wii U plans.
I gotta agree, this is by far the worst name ever. I know we all say that for every new console name, but the Wii-U is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Why didn't they just call it the Wii 2?
I guess as its new format (controller) is designed for a single user thats the 'U' or 'you' and the backwards compatibility is the 'Wii', so technically, Wii [for] U. That's the only way I can get my head around it anyway.
Kinda agree WiiU is kinda stupid, but so was Wii itself lol. I expected Wii2 to be named SuperWii :)
2 weeks ago he was saying "Vita" was the dumbest name ever
Yeah, Nintendo and Sony have been giving weird names to be their consoles now. Lets see what name MS will give when they have a new console.
It’s a great name from a marketing point of view. You keep the Wii brand identity and play on the family oriented ‘We’ ‘You’ message in future campaigns. If I was in charge of the marketing for the new console the first thing I’d ask is how we can keep the ‘Wii’ name and save millions in brand awareness and recognition.
Super Wii Two = SWiiT! but honestly...both are equally ridiculous! just find a new name Nintendo! you have spun Mario into many genres most gamer can think of (except FPS) but for your next console, Wii U is all you've got?!
Maybe they should have called it "Wii 2 U" At least that would help distinguish it from the Wii.
Wii 2 u ? Nah, does make sense, what about "Wii 4 u" ;) Nintendo just created that great Wii name which surprisingly caught on pretty well, and they couldn't let go, for obvious reasons. WiiU is a stupid solution for the problem. But people adopt pretty fast to those artificial names, happens with cars all the time.
Granted, wii-u name can't be more Lame, now about arriving 2 years later, it'll arrive in 2012, the time where Sony and MS would probably begin to talk about Next Gen...
It's not just the name of the Wii-U that's bad, it's that the console is a strategic misstep by Nintendo. It doesn't have that innovative "hook" that the Wii had. I mean, the controller does some cool stuff, but it's not at that level of simplistic practicality that makes it a must have for grandpa. He'll still be happy with his old Wii. Nintendo seems to understand this, hence their implication that they are going to go toe-to-toe with MS/Sony for the core gamer market (by showing clips of PS3 games as their demo). MASSIVE issue here being that unless the machine is significantly more powerful than the 360/PS3, no core gamer will see the need to make the jump. Alternatively, even if they did have that hardware advantage, it's possible that they pull a "Dreamcast" and hit the market too soon, and the entire core gamer market ignores them whilst waiting for the 720/PS4.
@Sik - I wouldn't even be slightly surprised if the next Xbox and PlayStation come out in 2013, that's why I think the Wii-U is pointless.
I think Wii originally was a daft name, but I think Wii U fits with what they've established. Considering their main market and everything I think it's a pretty decent name. Vita is worse in my opinion.
If they would have called it the Ninetendo NES people would have been going crazy. It would've brought all the nostalgia and memories of yesteryear to system with great new tech. Instead its the Wii U .... crickets ..... what a let down. Just imagine the eruption if they would have said ... "here is the NEW Nintendo Entertainment System!!!" Would have been Epic!
I think the WiiWii would have been a better name
Uh huh. You're the same person that said the Wii was last gen, so tell me, who's winning the console race? Last I checked it wasn't Microsoft, nor was it Sony. Anyway, as for ''dumb name'', what do you think ''Pachter'' is? It's neither smart nor clever. And well, I don't even think that I need to bring up YOUR user name, so let's leave it at that.
He should be mad over your baseless assumption.
Count, you're living in yesterday. Nintendo won on the sales side of things because they wowed casuals with motion controls. That doesn't impress anybody anymore, and nothing we've seen so far of the Wii-U would indicate that it will have anywhere near the impact on the casual market that the Wii had. The Wii was lightning in a bottle. The Wii-U betrays a level on confusion on Nintendo's part as to what they really want to do. If they want to get core gamers back, they'll need a lot more than a controller that amounts to a gimped PS Vita.
You sound pretty attached to Nintendo
Lol ok COUNT...
Yeah, WiiU outdumbs Vita :p, still I wouldn't say anything like that if my surname was Pachter... And yes, it's 2 years late. And "probably" PS3+PSVita will be able to already do what WiiU can offer before WiiU releases.
It would be much more expensive to go the PS3+Vita route but at least you can use more than one Vita at a time. I think the people in charge at Nintendo don't have more than 1 kid. If you have kids you know that having a console that only has one of the "cool" controllers is going to lead to trouble. No one is going to want to use the Wiimote when there is the new controller around, let the fighting begin :)
PS3+Vita might be more expensive, but Vita is also a handheld with its own game library. The WiiU Controller is not a handheld and as a result can only be used with the WiiU library. PS3 + Vita Library > WiiU Library ...but PS3 + Vita $ > WiiU $ Unless of course the PS3 drops price and the Wii U is jacked up to $400 or so. Imagine buying the controller separately o_O and then x_x
If you have already an HD system like the PS3, you only have to buy Vita instead of buying a new console ;)
. The new names are brutal but I said the same thing about the Nintendo Wii and now it's not that bad...Honest...O_o...I was lost during the Nintendo Press event. I thought the console was the controller...lol. Luigi's mansion STILL gets played around here and it's just sad that it's not a full release and why the heck did it take so long. the original came out in 2001...o_O Seriously, in terms of new announcements, I really like the Sony hand held. I have a PsP 3000 and the lack of a second stick has always been a complaint going back many years and now it's finally here. I hope they have some descent launch titles. The whole " molesting " of the back of the PS Vita seems a bit strange but I look forward to some great FPS action. Sony really needs to extend a hand to Activision and get COD on that device for launch. Imagine all those sales of COD transferring over to the Vita and having COD Elite on there so people could keep track of their stats and others from anywhere in the world...big opportunity if Sony doesn't blow it but this whole EA Vs Activision complicates things significantly. BTW...it's Sony's hand held for me. This thing looks like it could rule the world. M$ should suck it up and port Halo Anniversary edition on to that thing, fanboys be damned. Instant 10 million seller with multi-player to boot...I know, Sadly, it would never would happen.
I'm with you, during the Nintendo conference it just seemed like they were revealing a new controller for the Wii. Then I kept hearing them say "new console" and I was like, "wait, is the controller the new console or did i miss something???" Plus, the stream I was watching had a live chat and everyone seemed to be confused about the same thing. Poor job on Nintendo's part.
Well, if you think about it... a U is basically Roman Numeral II with the bottom connected. So Wii II becomes Wii U :P
Oh come on, I wasn't serious. The name does suck!
I can't believe I find myself agreeing with this guy.
I can't believe myself agreeing with Pachter, but hes right. Nintendo has been very late offering an HD console with similar specs to a generation which started back in 2005. The name is stupid in my opinion, they should have gone with a totally different name, like the Gamecube and the N64.
Wii u = Pee u
He's damn right. (Did I just say that?)
This guys was saying that the best and most catchy name ever aka ¨Vita¨ was the dumbest and so it was bound to fail... Fu this guy and his stupid brain man. - Viva la Vitaaa!
WiiU just makes me think of 'Pee-ew' ... You know, what Bugs Bunny (or any old cartoon character) would say when something stinks. My biggest beef with the name is that the 'U' comes right after a vowel, so it just sounds like one word weeeooo. It's just the most unbadass sounding name ever.
Oh dear, thats it. Patcher has spoken and thus.... Wii U will now become biggest selling console of all time.
lol. i donno i rarely agree with him, but i acutally do this time.
I wish I could get paid for stating obivious.
*the obvious I fail
That'll be why you don't :D
You'll need to have a Master's degree in Economics first. EDIT: Whatever... you still need that Master's degree kid. And BTW he does all these videogame predictions for fun, that's not what he gets paid for.
I need to master typing and proof-reading first.
Calm down Grandma, we're only having a bit of fun. I don't come here for career advice
Sadly he actually does get paid to make these predictions.
I totally agree with Pachter
that statement of yours sounds so ridiculous to my ears! agreeing with Pachter is so unorthodox but this time around Nintendo seems to have made him kinda...erm..."RIGHT" ;!
Well, it's more then 2 years late, it's the same as the PS3 and 360 and we had those for 5-6 years. Can't wait to see what Sony and Microsoft will do for the actual next generation.
Hardware wise Nintendo are always late to the party, although you could argue thats how they've actually been the one thats making money.
Nintendo uses their brain instead of their brawn. That's how they've been the one making the money.
"Nintendo uses their brain instead of their brawn. " Really? You *honestly* think that? Go home. Honestly? If they were using their brain they'd have a working online shop! They'd be releasing yearly updates on their key franchises and adopting a stance that helps 3rd parties! Jeez. Kids eh?
@edhe Though I agree that Nintendo needs to step-up their game to bring back "core" gamers, you can't argue with sales figures. Nintendo was smart enough to attract the "casual" crowd and make tons of money on that, so I would call that "using their brain". This is a business you know, and for the most part, those who make the most money often have the smartest strategics. Not saying this Wii U thing will prevail no matter what, but calling them dumb (I know you didn't say that directly) is ignorant.
I dunno, Pachter has to be right up there with the dumbest names ever. Sadly, he's is right. It is a pretty dumb name.
good thing pachter is such a reliable guy in terms of information
Patcher actually said with the actual system and controller he was blown away with how awesome it is. What he says about IF IF IF IF, He doesnt know Michal patcher also on twitter "The controller is extremely cool" And he praised nintendos E3 giving them a solid A. You cant put in the negative things he says without the positive
Didn't he say Vita was a dumb name aswell Have to agree a little bit with the two years to late part, fair enough if it was more powerful then both the 360 and PS3 but for Nintendo and others to say "it's on the same level"....no it shouldn't be, it's next gen it should be next level. Thing about Nintendo and names is that they didn't learn from the 3DS, the 3DS just sounds like an upgrade like DS, DSlite, DSi, DSiXL...dosen't really sound next gen and netheir does Wii U. At least Vita goes along with PSV where V means the 5th portable from Sony, PSP 1000, PSP 2000, PSP 3000, PSP Go and now the PSV
So.. we define ''next gen'' by names? ..I'm dumbfounded. I don't know what to say.
Well yeah...it kind of lets the audience know that's it's brand new and not just another upgrade or improved version.
What "next gen" u are talking about ?? Wii-u MAYBE(again maybe) will catch up with 6 years old console (xbox 360) Ops wii u will release next year so it will be "MAYBE will catch up with 7 years old console ) or maybe a bit better.
You make no sense. Your problem with the Wii U is the fact that it has Wii on it, yet you like the PlayStation Vita despite the fact that it has PlayStation on it. It's just a brand name.
I didn't say that was my problem I was just pointing something out. Your just being a prick who's twisting my words
I think I get what White_Lightning is trying to to say. Imagine if Sony's next console was called the "PS3+" (instead of "PS4"). Now if you didn't know the specs, would you assume that was a Next-gen console? Or a updated PS3 model. In that sense, names do define the next gen. Think about it, when Sony updated the PSP they always kept "psp" in the name. (psp 3000, PSPGo). But now that they are releasing a NEXT-GEN device, suddenly they don't use "psp" anymore. (now it's "PSV"). No offense, but it's not rocket science.
Nintendo. You still have a year. If you change the name to something decent, we may just forgive you.
they dont need fanboys to forgive them. They do what they do as long as they believe it will be successful. Not because of nobody posters.
fanboys? What do you mean? :S
Just release Mario kart HD and fanboys will forget their names.
I thought he said PS Vita was the dumbest name ever. I guess it only officially held the title for 12 hours.
Now, I dunno if Wii U will fail or not, but surely history has taught us a thing or two... The name Wii was universally derided as a stupid name when announced... didn't hurt sales. The Wii was a WHOLE generation behind the competition.... didn't hurt sales. Why would things be any different with the Wii U??
All the casuals that bought the Wii won't be upgrading...all the 'hardcore' will stick to Playstation and Xbox....leaves Nin with scraps imo
Could be true, but why wouldn't they upgrade? It might not be Day 1, but with full backwards compatibility on peripherals and games, I'm sure there's many Wii owners who might upgrade, and it might actually be pretty good value to do so. They know they won't need to be X number of new remotes/nunchuks/Balance Boards etc. I still know some people with SD TV's and only own a Wii - their first choice console when the get an HD TV is going to be a Wii U. For me, the perfect