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id Software: Wii U Tech On Level With PS3/360

id tech head John Carmack has confirmed that Wii U technology brings the latest console from Nintendo to the same level as PS3 and Xbox 360, machines released five and six years ago.

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MinusTheBear5116d ago

Nintendo seems to like this trend of releasing last-gen hardware.

EYEamNUMBER15116d ago

what trend is that? the only other time they did it was the wii itself and your all to blame for that since you ignored them when they didn't do that

Muletroid5116d ago

is john carmack still saying the 360 is the most powerful system around?
after just 1 comment i was never able to take him seriously again

Ducky5116d ago (Edited 5116d ago )

^ You got a link to that statement?
I recall him saying that that PS3 is marginally more powerful.

Taking things out of context is easy to do.

RedDead5116d ago

He said it's his favorite to develop for, because it's easy to develop for. nothing more nothing less

meetajhu5116d ago

@muletroid

Do you assume every day u know more than John Carmack it will make u feel stupid when think about it.

Muletroid5116d ago

@FatOldMan
you were right it was about the 360's rage over the ps3s not the consoles themselves
that was my bad on my part (N4G tittles)

@meetajhu
there is irony in what you just said whether you can see it or not depends on you

scofios5116d ago

@EYEamNUMBER1
Well said.

nveenio5116d ago

When Carmack adds physics to Rage, I'll start listening to what he says.

theonlylolking5116d ago (Edited 5116d ago )

Itagaki said the 360 is the most powerful hardware
http://n4g.com/news/151505/...

Carmack said"The PS3 is still far and away better than anything else that’s ever been made... except maybe the 360"

http://n4g.com/news/721819/...

Intel said"Powerful GPUs Are Useless, You'd Better Upgrade Your CPU"

Carmack is just an old legend that cannot work on more sophisticated(big word) hardware such as the PS3. That is why he prefers the 360.

jetlian5116d ago

about ds,3ds NUMBER1. since gamecube nintendo has been this way.

nveenio5115d ago

I don't give Carmack any credit for being a pioneer. The industry is completely different than it was back in the day. But I bet a monkey's uncle that Rage won't score higher than an 85 on Metacritic.

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movements5116d ago

Although it's now on the level with PS3 and Xbox 360. I am still disappointed because that's oudated tech. Why not make something more powerful? Come on...

LordStig5116d ago

it's not outdated tech it's current tech.

Kee5116d ago

I'm sure they could, it's just it'd be a lot of money spent in R&D when they know all the casual gamers won't care about the specs and that's typically who they target with their games consoles nowadays.

RedDragan5116d ago

Nintendo have shown with the Wii that you don't need new, expensive tech to rule the market.

However, I will no doubt lose another bubble for speaking the truth which is quantifiable through official sales figures. I think N4G is getting more and more filled with fanboys, perhaps it is time for N4G to introduce proper age screening so 12 year olds cannot contribute anything to site... or take away from it as is becoming the case lately.

Lots of honest, geniune people seem to be losing their right to speak sense while idiots get to spout their crap all over the place.

CrazyForGames5116d ago

@RedDragan
talking about others being fanboys? LOL

your quick to take up your sword and shield just like everyone else on here its the way of N4G

RedDragan5116d ago

Really? How so? I have PS3, Wii, PC and 360.

There are things that each excel at, other things each do not do so good. The difference between me and fanboys is that I do not hold back my punches when criticising what needs criticising, and others simply do not like that. Well screw them, I will carry on being harsh if needed.

ProjectVulcan5116d ago (Edited 5116d ago )

It is outdated if you happen to have played on anything resembling a Gaming PC since 2007.

Saying that, if it can do native 1080p, with good filtering and proper AA then i would be fairly happy. Even with identical assets it would look far smoother and better than most of the games PS3 and 360 output.

Just a quick glance of what the difference it makes to how Duke nukem looks on console v PC should be enough to show how much more eye pleasing good filtering and higher res is.

DeadlyFire5116d ago

Its at least 2-4 times as powerful graphically as X360/PS3 even if running on same CPU level.

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StanSmith5116d ago

Reading fail on this site's part!

"He also made clear that while it was not possible to bring id Tech 5 on the Wii platform, it would be possible to bring RAGE on Wii U using the iOS tech used in RAGE: Mutant Bash TV.
“Previously, the Wii was not a target. Id Tech 5 was just not suitable for the Wii at all. We seriously talked about possibly using the iOS Rage technology that I built for that for a Wii game. It would fit perfectly from a technology standpoint, and I think would have been really pretty cool as a Wii game, but we decided that it wasn’t the right time to jump into the Wii market."

He's not saying he has to use the iOS tech on WiiU. He's saying the WiiU can handle the same tech that 360 & PS3 use. The iOS tech would have been used on the Wii.

Just another site wanting to have a pop at Nintendo. Seriously, since E3, it's been like 2006 with the PS3 again. Look how that turned out!

iforgotmylogin5115d ago (Edited 5115d ago )

bleah i dont care what no one says, there is no way a new ibm cpu and current graphics card is on par with current gen.

thats like saying a 9800gtx and a quadcore cpu at 3.0 > a gtx 450 and a i5 running at 3.2

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BeastlyRig5116d ago

Late to the party..

I guess they do it to sell cheaper at launch.

VampiricDragon5116d ago

Its on the same level. But the wii u is more powerful as developers have said over and over

thoract5116d ago (Edited 5116d ago )

The WiiU is slightly more powerful but there will be no games to take advantage of the power. Third party developers will not develop games that will take advantage of the WiiU's power because it is a new platform with no install base. The only third party games that are showing up on the WiiU are shovelware. All the games they showed will have already been released on the other platforms before the release of the WiiU. The only way for games to use the full power of the WiiU will be Nintendo exclusives.

VampiricDragon5116d ago (Edited 5116d ago )

IF IF IF

OPINION OPINION OPINION

When you are running a game company I will be worried for innovation

Cyb3r5116d ago (Edited 5116d ago )

Whats the point in spending a lot more money on the Wii U if it is just as powerful as current gen systems. I think I will just wait for the nextgen PS3 or 360

edhe5116d ago

Kids.

Honestly. If you have a family and you've got two kids and a wiiU with two controllers then you can tell 'em to shove oaf and they can sling their games to the controller and play there instead.

In a world of omnipresent screens & cloud hosting though I doubt it'll market well.

Also it's not going to be that expensive - the tech is OLD inside, the devices will play off their massive production lines for the DS and the form factor may as well be the wii.

These things will probably enter at the £200 level, bundled.

Oh yeah also if they don't upscale Wii games they can fuck. right. off.

chrisgay5115d ago

Nintendo are being very lazy with backward compatibility- there would be a huge market for upascaled Wii and Gamecube games as a lot of HD gamers avoided the Wii this generation. Unless they have a PS3 style strategy in mind of just re releasing Wii games remastered in HD.

chrisgay5115d ago

Because current generation systems aren't made by Nintendo and don't have the incredible games exclusive to Nintendo consoles. If all you care about is graphics, stick to what you know- for you, there is no point in purchasing the Wii U. I on the other hand love the gameplay Nintendo offers- straight up, no nonsense fun.

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Bordeaux President Jean-Louis Triaud Denies Approach For Juventus Midfielder Momo Sissoko

Bordeaux president Jean-Louis Triaud has denied reports suggesting his club are negotiating a move for Juventus midfielder Momo Sissoko.

“We consider him a great player, but it’s the first time I've heard of our interest in him," he said, according to Tuttomercatoweb.

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The Average Gamer: Hands-On Thoughts About the Wii U

Debbie Timmins from The Average Gamer tries out the Wii U controller at E3 2011 and then gets a bit carried away playing the Pirate demo, I mean the shield pose demo.

"Most of the technical demos were pretty dry, as you might expect. I have spared you the video footage of me failing to draw a 70° angle, so consider yourself lucky."

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charmer5080d ago

since when have the average gamer gotten their hands on the wiiu or anyone except for nintendo knows what its truly capable of.... the only thing i will say from looking at e3 nintendo has something special on their hands

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Mario Kart on Wii U - What Would It Be Like?

MMGN writes: Mario Kart will eventually make its way to Wii U – that’s a given. But what can we expect from Nintendo when it brings its popular kart racing series to its new console? How can the gameplay change? What new features can we expect? With the new Wii U controller there are a ton of exciting possibilities, so let’s get creative and take a look at a few ways Mario Kart can take advantage of the Wii U’s capabilities.

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matey5081d ago

Needs to have real life tracks taken from Nascar/F1/WRC/Fantasy with pit stops in GP mode imagine a pit stop with Wario and team changing ur tyres WOW full body deformation ect still the same Mariokart but alot faster and harder 250cc class with 16 players online WoW a nice garage where u pimp u Kart ect Mariokart would be amazing.

jacksonmichael5081d ago

Real life tracks taken from Nascar? But... I like to be able to turn right... And... I don't live in a trailer...

pcz5081d ago

i think i have grown out of it now. Nintendo needs its own Gran tourismo or forza.

if they want to appeal to the hardcore market they will need to make a new hardcore racer, as the hardcore crowd wont be at all impressed with mario kart.

even as a fun racer, mario kart has lost its way. only mario kart on the snes and n64 were any good, the rest were rubbish. the 3ds looks set to continue the rubbish tradition... driving under water? flying? rubbish!

ChickeyCantor5081d ago

"Nintendo needs its own Gran tourismo or forza. "

I rather have F-zero thank your very much.
GT and Forza are boring. Of course thats just my opinion. I rather see them do a Burnout if F-zero wasn't their franchise.

pcz5081d ago (Edited 5081d ago )

''I rather have F-zero thank your very much. ''

Yeah, f-zero has always been a great franchise, but its still a niche title (futuristic racer.) sony could easily answer f zero with wipeout. ie the f zero experience isnt totally unique. sonys answer to mario kart is mod racers (or crash bandicoot racing lol) But what is nintendos answer to gran tourismo?

wave race and 1080 snowboarding were great because they were decent attempts at a serious racing experience, they need to bring those games back for wiiu. they need to bring a 'real car racing' experience to wiiu. Not just mario kart.

what im talking about is an actual 'hardcore' driving experience, like gran tourismo/forza. Nintendo don't have that and never really have.

If nintendo are serious about winning hearts and minds of so called hardcore gamers, they will need that 'serious driving' title. The hardcore crowd will expect it. Its a fact hard core driving titles like gt and forza are system sellers on their respective consoles, so if nintendo wants to win, it needs one. otherwise those gamers will simply stick with sony/microsoft.

are we really supposed to believe players who love the sophistication of gran tourismo, and slickness of forza, are going to be thrilled with mario kart, or even f zero? come on, get real.

''GT and Forza are boring. ''

thats your opinion, fair enough, but its not the wider opinion as sales figures show. These simulation racers are amongst the most highly anticipated games on those so called hardcore systems. People obviously enjoy them, and they have almost universal critical acclaim.

Nintendo doesn't offer an alternative to the 'niche racing title.' so we dont have any choice but to play mario kart or f zero. What if i want to play a simulation racer? simple- i cant. this is the problem.

Nintendo have realised its lack of fps games and third person action franchises has been a weakness, but it also needs to address this driving game problem, or else people are going to get their fix elsewhere.

Its the same with the fighting genre, instead of getting us street fighter, tekken, mortal kombat etc, they have given us smash bros and punchout. fine, those games are fun, but we need those popular franchises. nintendo realise this and have announced street fighter v tekken for wiiu.

we NEED a serious driving game. mario kart just isnt cutting it anymore.

ChickeyCantor5081d ago

" sony could easily answer f zero with wipeout. "

Absolutely not.
Maybe as futuristic racers, but in gameplay F-zero murders wipeout.

I understand your point, but honestly, I just can't see nintendo make a realistic racer.
F-zero GX was hard, and they should continue in that trend. Its an amazing racer.

Samus HD5081d ago (Edited 5081d ago )

they need to make it more hardcore

On Mario Kart Wii
NGamer UK was disappointed that Battle mode can now only be played in teams; no free-for-all option is offered which removes the 'last man standing' element of previous Mario Kart Battle modes - They are right

GameTrailers and IGN also commented that it is easy to fall from first place to last by being continuously attacked by several weapons, many of which are unavoidable, leading to a certain amount of luck in racing. This makes it more accessible for beginners, but can be extremely discouraging for skilled players.[24][25] GameSpot also noted that "nostalgia doesn't save most of the classic courses from being boring".[7] - right too

they need to change that (more focusing on GAMEPLAY)

charmer5081d ago

i expect all the nintendo games in hd to be something special especially the first time around