The fierce rivalry between Activision's Modern Warfare 3 and EA's Battlefield 3 has hit boiling point - as John Riccitiello proudly boasts of "getting the goat" of Bobby Kotick.
there both fps both have campers both require limited skill and just are pick it up and go wow im fn good look at me spray the pkm wow im skilled me throw hatchet 90ft and get a kill oh and don't forget the toe shooting and sniping. Why is there a fight between them when both are trends.
The snipers are the one issue I find annoying about bf games. There are always way to many. Cod however has way more problems IMO.
@below that is true but I still play bfbc2 and nothing is worse then half of a team made of snipers just camping out across the map picking people off.
Sniping in CoD is alot worse. Kids love to noscope and quickscope and tell their friends are school about how awesome their 360-one-finger-in-the-nose-whi le dancing-around-in-underwear-no scope kill
Never really had a problem with campers, snipers or really most of the stuff I hear people moaning about. Thats in either BF or COD games. I just get on with it and try and have fun.
Yeh snipers in BF games are annoying as its a team game so having nearly a full team of snipers just means an instant loss. I think they should have a limit on the amount of classes in BF3 as it would encourage team work more.
one thing i remember about COD that i hate is that there would be people 40ing left and right, they would purposely die just to get another 2 shells to use. worst experience ever aside from the campers who would get killstreaks and that god dam helicopter that is an instant 6 to 7 kills easy
side note: why are these articles between COD and BF appearing? personally BF shouldnt be even matched against COD since BF is more to the "REAL" side of combat
This is not a classy look from EA, but I have to say based off of what I've seen so far I'm much more interested in Battlefield 3, although I must say the MW3 single player campaign footage shown at 3E looked better than most of the previous games, Battlefield on the other hand is just amazing with all the destructibility etc. EA you have nothing to prove, so keep it classy and save the fanboy war for the fanboys. You've pretty much PS3 fans (even though you've been with them since PS1), and Activision are 360 fans even though most of their games outsell the 360 version except Call of Duty.
MW3 will outsell Battlefield, but I think this Battlefield will sell 10 million copies overall which is the first step in catching the Modern Warfare crowd. But the fans need to tell their friends about it, and the PS3 fans need to buy the game so they can enjoy Battlefield 1943 for free.
. ...that is why they have moved their game to October. They know they can't compete and Kotick is poking fun at them.
EA says that they already showed the console version...O_o...Really??? Where is it. Even the media that have played Battlefield behind closed doors are asking the same questions...Where is the console version???
Dice has been calling other devs lazy and that their Frostbite 2 engine is a next gen engine in the current gen...lol...how dumb is that. This is starting to look a lot like the Black ops Vs MOH last year...how did that turn out again and who was the pub behind MOH....oh, yeah...lol
Wait till Activision adds considerable insult to injury when they smash EA in court for trying to steal COD MW. Sorry EA, those E-mails are all the proof they need and 200 MILLION is a big number.
I don't have a problem with people playing as snipers as long as it's to the benefit of the team. I also think anyone who plays Battlefield should be made to watch this video before they ever pick up a controller.
sniping in BF is challenging as hell first you got to line up your shot thanks to the gravity effect an then you have to make sure its a head shot if its a long shot because its very unlikely to kill him if you shot him in the body
Yeah I know what you mean, I always see lots of snipers camping on hill tops. I used to love sneaking up on alot of them as they were sniping and just knife them all without anyone noticing.
The thing is, if the team is mostly snipers, that just means they have already lost. The thing I find the hardest, is when there's like 2 or 3 snipers on the other team; that means they are smart, and most likely good at sniping.
BF people shouldn't say anything, that single player campaign is terrible. People can say its for multi player but the fact is, more people play the SP than online.
I'm not a COD fan but have all the games & the SP is far greater than BF.
Also, I'm waiting to see BF3 on the console as well. When EA shows a trailer of CONSOLE GAMEPLAY ONLY, someone let us know please.
hmmm.. yes, I finished last CoD campaign in 5 hours when I visited my friend, it was fun, but tiersome in the end with instant all-out action. But what's after that? Oh yeah, the multiplayer.. 99% of the gameplaytime people spend in CoD is multiplayer, don't expect it to change with MW3.
In BFBC2, I did play one mission SP, it was ok, but jumped straight to the MP, since I knew from Beta that it's "the game".
"-the fact is, more people play the SP than online."
Hahahahahahaha!
In all seriousness, though, do CoD's action movie campaigns really excite you? The campaigns feel like action flicks from the 90's.
Heck, even MoH's campaign was more enjoyable than CoD's for me. It felt so real, especially the missions where you play as "Dante." They made you feel like a real soldier in the heat of combat.
With CoD, it's like...*SLOW-MO BREACH...SHOOT A BUNCH OF GUYS IN SOW-MO...ESCAPE BY RIDING A BURNING HELICOPTER WHICH IS ALSO PLUMMETING INTO A HURRICANE...JUST IN TIME...TO SAVE THE WORLD!...G.I. JOOOOOOOOOOE!*
The true Battlfield games require limited skill? Go play BF2 and try to lone-wolf it and kill the entire enemy team by yourself, you'll get fucking raped.
You don't have to drive around in vehicles mate, 9 times out of 10 when I play I am on foot. Me and a friend who play alot have recently started using the helicopters just as something different... that is the great thing about the game... you never have to once get in a vehicle if you don't want to, it is just an option to do things a little differently if you so choose!
What Battlefield do you play? I play BF2 all the time (still) and it's probably in your best interests to get in a vehicle. BFBC 1 & 2 were more forgiving, but I think BF3 will be more like the original series.
I play BF:BC2 mate, and yeah I do use vehicles quite a bit, but what I mean is although I use them.... you are not forced to use them. So probably 70% of my gaming time will be on foot. I will use tanks when the mood hits me, I use the quads and jeeps to get to places quickly, like if I am flanking people, and recently have started using the helicopters a bit more seriously as I used to just jump in and have a go before doing something else!
My guess is BF3 will occupy the middle ground, yes it will put more emphasis on the vehicles.... but not at all at the expense of playing on foot!
In BF2 you're better off in a vehicle only because of the Random cone of fire and just latency problems in general with shots from a distance. Remember DICE's objective with BF2 was to improve the gun play over 1942 and Vietnam they did that, and in each iteration of the game they have improved the usefulness of the infantry guns and just the feel for the gun play in general.
I have no doubt in my mind that you'll be perfectly fine running around on foot, relying on your rifle and not a tank.
The way to take down MW3 is to throw all of your efforts into hype and advertising. It's DICE's job to make the best FPS in recent history and EA's job to talk trash, hype the game, and advertise, advertise, advertise.
Didn't Modern Warfare break out because of that ludicrous amount of advertising money they threw at it? 100$ Million or something right?
End of the day I doubt Kotick is really that bothered. He deals in numbers and profit and despite being a HUGE fan of the battlefield series and wishing that it blows MW3 out of the water.. chances are MW3 will sell a LOT more copies than BF3 and that is all Kotick cares about.
This isn't a bad thing however as I'd be distraught if the COD community started turning to battlefield and end up changing my beloved series into a glorified action film.
I like the way EA is marketing BF3, this is one way to steal some of the sales from MW3, the sheep over there must be led, so some trash talking will get their attention.
I know 2 of the GameStops in my area already have over 120 pre-orders each for MW3 and only around 100 for BF3, so it is going to sell more because there are people out there that don't pay attention to gaming sites and will only buy it because it has CoD smeared on the packaging.
On my side of things however, BF3 gets my money this year. MW3 just doesn't look that interesting to me. I might rent it just to see how the campaign ends, but other than that, I really have no interest in CoD anymore.
This year my list of money vacuums is Rage, BF3, and Skyrim.
If you have a PS3, get Disgaea 4 when it comes out in September, better yet go pre-order it in July and get the Limited Edition, even better, go buy the Super Limited Edition of the NISA website and be somewhat disappointed. Go buy this game even if you have no interest in JRPGs or SRPGs.
On the other hand, I'll defiantly be trying out BF3 at the very least, seeing as I'm gonna be tight on cash for quite awhile. I loved BC2's mulitplayer, kept me hooked 10 hours straight when the beta came out for it.
investing millions into advertising BF3 and claiming it is the second coming will overthrow COD. I hope they do to be honest. Elitist casuals have ruined this gen for me.
This is off topic but i just noticed Bobby looks just like a leprechaun take a good look at him ears and all looks just like one.
On topic A lot of people myself included have every reason to believe Battlefield 3 will be the prime MW FPS this year. Call of duty has been getting no better at the most it has been going down hill. Battlefield 3 is something i have never seen on consoles yet. I believe Call of duty has also got that arcade feel to it now. Battlefield 3 looks like it will have the sim feel like the other Battlefield games but it will still be very fun without having to be way to realistic. If call of duty MW3 has something new and major up its sleeve that can battle Battlefield 3. Then i urge Actvision to show it because i have yet to see anything ground breaking from this Call of duty.
That's england. Where an elevator is a lift, a truck is a lorry, cars have boots and bonnets instead of trunks and hoods, a program is a programme, a rumor is a rumour and losing your nerve is called bottling.
But they have Doctor Who and Monty Python so I can't criticize.
there both fps both have campers both require limited skill and just are pick it up and go wow im fn good look at me spray the pkm wow im skilled me throw hatchet 90ft and get a kill oh and don't forget the toe shooting and sniping. Why is there a fight between them when both are trends.
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But I admit, Battlefield 3 is amazing from what I've seen in trailers & such.
I'm sure both of them would be great nonetheless.
Still, it's interesting to see how the war between EA & Activision would turn out.
Don't now If I buy Battlefield because I don't like driving arround in vehicles but Im definitely not buying COD.
The way to take down MW3 is to throw all of your efforts into hype and advertising. It's DICE's job to make the best FPS in recent history and EA's job to talk trash, hype the game, and advertise, advertise, advertise.
Didn't Modern Warfare break out because of that ludicrous amount of advertising money they threw at it? 100$ Million or something right?
End of the day I doubt Kotick is really that bothered. He deals in numbers and profit and despite being a HUGE fan of the battlefield series and wishing that it blows MW3 out of the water.. chances are MW3 will sell a LOT more copies than BF3 and that is all Kotick cares about.
This isn't a bad thing however as I'd be distraught if the COD community started turning to battlefield and end up changing my beloved series into a glorified action film.