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Did Robert Bowling “fake” MW3 Microsoft E3 demo?

BeefJack writes: "Now, this is odd: a number of people have questioned whether the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 demo seen at Microsoft’s E3 press briefing was actually controlled by Robert Bowling – or indeed whether the gameplay footage was a “live performance” at all."

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PirateThom5124d ago

I'd say it's almost certain that it was mimed given the fact there was nothing on his monitor at the time. Honestly, wouldn't surprise me if "PLEASE RECONNECT CONTROLLER" was intentional to show "HEY IT'S DEFINITELY ON 360" then they switched to a PC feed or something equally Activision.

meetajhu5124d ago (Edited 5124d ago )

I can confirm and assure 100% that the game was running on the PC. How? First think they locked the resolution to console 1280x720(really on console it is 1024 x 600) and inside the submarine where they plant the bomb the shading in light quality was SM4.0. Mw2 on PC was Dx10 game if people didn't know if can force the game to DX9 via config and check the same lighting it makes the difference. Now i can be sure that they have used the same SM4.0 lighting here. Both MW3 and Tomb raider was running on the PC i can confirm that. These crazy basta's can't cheat me. In tomb raider where she ducks under the rock with the flame the flame blends with the rock i mean thats a physx sdk and pretty sure its impossible on console and havok doesn't support such level of dynamics.

Catatafish5124d ago

MW2 was not Dx10 on PC noob...

End.

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WhittO5124d ago (Edited 5124d ago )

I thought it was faked, the game resumed in like 3 seconds and it would take longer than that to re-connect the controller and start playing again.

MS always have that problem, you would think they would be on top of that by now!

DualConsoleOwner5124d ago

They did the exact same thing last year.

They faked the entire kinect demo in order to hide the lags, glitches and inaccuracy from Kinect.

Now they fake MW2??

Thats just sad MS.

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trollpolice5124d ago

big freaken deal? who cares if not live all of them probably set up because don't want to make a mistake.

EVILDEAD3605124d ago

LMAO @ claiming they are showing PC demoes..Not even close..

Of course the demoes are as fake (especially Kinect). It's better to pretend they are real then to have some devasting control issues. There is no going back in live TV and one mess up would hurt any game that had one.

This is why I always laugh when people talk about lag from live demonstrations..no duh

Evil

revengemadmax5124d ago

so u didn’t see the star wars kinect video then? Tons of mistakes and embarrassing moment where he couldn’t move the tank vehicle out of his way.

Livin_in_a_box5124d ago

Remember last years at Nintendo's live Wii demo of Skyward Sword? Everything went wrong and Miyamoto even said that "we'll work on these control issues before launch!"

But yeah, the Star Wars Kinect demo was terrible, really showed the lag and it not picking up his movements.

EVILDEAD3605124d ago

Lol @ embarrassing moment..it's basically a video with people faking the demonstration..even Gears and MW are fake..there's no lag..it's acting..Very bad in some cases..
Didn't really notice him having issues with the tank..that wasn't an issue..but yeah zelda live demo last year didnt go so well..which nintendo learned from..I honestly the Sony should move away from some of the live because some of the presenters just had bad stage presence. But who can blame them with a huge crowd if press waiting to see the games..

AAACE55124d ago

Thom... It's a CoD game! Why would they need to switch to a PC feed? Most people complain about the graphics looking like the past games,so it's not like the system is being pushed too hard!

For the past several years we have seen connection issues happen during live demos. Happened to Nintendo last year and Sony the year before. And people always question something.

There are tons of wireless signals in the convention center, so things like this happen.

SephirothX215124d ago

I agree.

The game is so bad that not even Robert Bowling wants to play it.

Sarcasm5124d ago

Honestly who cares. It was most disturbing because the gameplay itself looked boring as hell. It was MW2.1

ZombieAssassin5124d ago

Well Mw2 was really Mw1.5 so 3 is more like Mw1.75...although I think Mw1 was the best and all the rest are just steps back.

nopunctuation5124d ago

Nothing shown at MS E3 was controlled by the people on stage. The kinect stuff was all predetermined and it was painfully obvious when you compared the movements of the people with the movements on screen. Guess they didnt want another bam there it is.

Christopher5124d ago

Eh, there wasn't much to mime anyway...

- Follow guys under water
- Get out of water
- Kill 4 guys with some very basic shooting skills
- Follow guys to door
- Blast door
- Follow guys out of sub
- Follow other boat

Most of the action was scripted to run in the background and didn't affect the player at all.

IMHO, they should have demoed some new multiplayer feature/map/so on with the players on stage.

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guigsy5124d ago

So what? I reckon all these live demos aren't live, they can't afford to mess it up.

news4geeks5124d ago

A few of the kinect ones looked live. I mean, they looked bad anyway so it didn't really matter.

paintsville5124d ago

Of course it was live! Sony's the only one that tries to dupe people with CG fake demo's hello KZ2.

news4geeks5124d ago

true, sony were sneaky bastards, but other than the high framerate, the graphics in that CG footage were reached. The graphics in the motorstorm demo were miles ahead of the game though xD.

jacksons985124d ago

@paintsville
Except KZ2 ended up looking better than the early CG footage. Wow!

Jonah_Reese5124d ago

@Paintsville

Wow, how petty are you that was like 5 years ago and that was the only game you can mention, smh.

Motorola5124d ago

Uncharted 3 and 2's demos are LIVE. They said so in a GI interview i read last year on E3

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peowpeow5124d ago

I recall Resistance 3 being live? Didn't look like the 'perfect' gameplay usually shown in E3 videos with slow panning across areas and showing off every new feature

Pl4sm45124d ago

lol sure ... imagine the developers sucking at their own game (in which they do) most of the time

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fluffydelusions5124d ago (Edited 5124d ago )

Who cares...Nintendo was showing 360/ps3 footage. Everyone knows how cod looks.

FriedGoat5124d ago

Not the case, I'm no nintendo fanboy but I clearly saw features that aren't on the ps3/xbox in tekken when it drew on the characters and outfits.

peeps5124d ago

Although some footage obviously was on the Wii U, a lot was just ps3/360 footage and this came from Reggie lol it's not some site speculating

DragonKnight5124d ago

I actually more thought the Disney Kinect games were more mimed than the CoD demo.

retrofly5124d ago

I thought it was mimed anyway, didnt think it was a big deal. If anyones done a tech demo they know how easy it can go wrong.

Anyone see the APC pop up in the BF3 demo, OMG the humanity :P

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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III & Warzone - Season 6 Combat Pack Trailer

Free for Playstation owners

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Modern Warfare 3 flooded with cheaters after arrival on Xbox Game Pass

Players are using hacks to gain an advantage in the game, such as aimbots and wall hacks. The first gives a player superhuman aiming abilities, while a wall hack lets you see through walls to gauge where other players are.

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Jin_Sakai324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

“These hacks are typically used by PC players, but those playing on PC via Xbox Game Pass are identified as Xbox players in multiplayer lobbies.”

This is pretty dumb to say the least.

Cacabunga324d ago

All about them headshots for Xbox

badz149324d ago

Gotta pump those numbers up

blackblades324d ago

That's a WTF, they suppose to be labeled as pc users even if its on PC game pass. They mess that up big time.

XiNatsuDragnel324d ago

Oh bad this will be entertaining to watch

ZycoFox324d ago

If AI keeps getting better (and it will) it's just a matter of time before there's more sophisticated cheats even for consoles, and they wouldn't even need to be running on it, I have little doubt about that.

lelo2play324d ago

Don't Gamepass online games have anti-cheat systems?
If not, that's pretty dumb. Microsoft need to fix that asap.

Rynxie324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

They won't ever fix this problem, unless they (developers, publishers, Sony and MS) go after the cheat providers directly. You no longer need to hack consoles to use hacks. During the ps360 days, they were going after cheat devices, but it was a cat and mouse game. These cheating methods were around during those days, it's nothing new, but they kept it under control. Since the PS4/Xbox one generation, they stopped going after these cheating devices and it became widespread. Which I find odd, since they started charging for online play (PS4).

StormSnooper324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

Possibly, this is because the companies were going after cheats because the same cheats were being used to pirate the games, whereas today, the companies use online verification to prevent piracy, thus eliminating the need to go after people who cheat only to gain an advantage in the game. As long as the cheater remains below the radar, and does not completely break the game, the companies look the other way as their wallets are not threatened by it. (that is my completely Uneducated opinion on the matter)

pwnmaster3000324d ago

I mean, COD games was always filled with hackers, nothing new. I can’t blame MS on this. Activision had years to try and fix this. Might take MS some time to make some change.

Rude-ro324d ago

It all depends…
Microsoft’s guidance on how to handle gamepass on pc and their love to force crossplay with pc seems like a them issue.
And they own activision, so it is still a them issue.

StormSnooper324d ago

lol well that sucks.

Is there a reason this happened upon arrival on xbox?

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Activision Reportedly Sold An AI-Generated Skin In Call Of Duty

The Yokai's Wrath bundle was released despite previous guarantees by Activision that A.I. would not be used for final assets, per the report. Instead, Activision assured developers it was simply for internal concepts. That, of course, was not followed through. For what it's worth, per the PlayStation Store, 2,400 COD Points cost $19.99, meaning players potentially spent real-life money on a skin that was not created by an actual human.

As far as A.I. use goes across Activision, a source told Wired that 2D artists are utilizing A.I. to aid their work. That is a result of mass layoffs, in which many 2D artists were impacted. “A lot of 2D artists were laid off,” the source named Noah said. “Remaining concept artists were then forced to use A.I. to aid in their work.” Mandatory A.I. trainings have been implemented, according to Noah.

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boing1327d ago (Edited 327d ago )

I mean, is this even surprising?

just_looken327d ago

It is not ubisoft has a ai tool for crating stories/script's they even talked about npc's having there own ai speech like we see with those skyrim mods.

Ai is the future sadly which sucks in so many way's.

S2Killinit327d ago (Edited 327d ago )

Activision. And MS. They will ruin console gaming forever.

Oh and where the FRIGGIN outrage people? When Sony makes a remaster of a masterpiece single player story driven game, they get roasted. But this, this, goes unnoticed? Then don’t complain that you aren’t getting enough single player story games.

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just_looken327d ago

Ea and ubisoft also use ai

ea using ai for development threatening mass layoffs.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/...

ubisoft ai for npc speech
https://www.theverge.com/20...

Almost every big boy in the industry is using ai in some sort of way now

Oh and sony? well they are making spyware ai were they can see how long it took you to do X and adjust difficultly.
https://gamerant.com/sony-a...

Then you got AI agents
https://www.ign.com/article...

https://www.creativebloq.co...

blackblades327d ago

Sony ai is a patent doesnt mean it came to light

just_looken327d ago

@blackblades

Wow this site every time you say the S word or P word they dive in defend there god its beyond nuts

I said "they are making"

You know a term that means its not out yet ffs

S2Killinit327d ago (Edited 327d ago )

How is that a response to what I said? Are they also selling AI generated skins?

Cacabunga326d ago (Edited 326d ago )

Always bringing useless links totally off topic.. just to try to show you are superior in knowledge to everyone else

…simply laughable

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just_looken327d ago

@S2Killinit

You never mentioned skins in your comment just stated its all microsoft's fault like so many others.

When like i showed they are late to the ball game as every other company is using or plans to use ai in various field.

If you combine everything then its getting closer to hitting a button and poof out comes a game no soul no passion nothing.

Right now its art/3d models/skins/writing/voice work some and coding can all be done via ai.

S2Killinit327d ago (Edited 327d ago )

That was the whole point of my comment, I wrote it in response to the article. Instead of focusing on making exciting games and developing talented developers, they are busy making AI generated skins that people are buying for huge sums of money. Then, some people turn around and shit on Sony when it tries to capitalize on single player classics by making remasters, and the same people then complain that they want more single player games. MS cannabalized the industry because they never thought making games was essential to their business. So, instead of nurturing theor own studios, they let them die, then went and shrunk the industry, hurting interests of every gamer in the world. Anytime there is a bad trend in the industry, MS is at the helm, leading the way. That is what I’m saying.

smashman98326d ago

I'm sorry but do you honestly believe Sony will sit out of A.I. Every executive at every one of these publishers is wetting themselves in delight at the prospect of A.I. You best believe that once we start seeing it spread throughout the industry Sony won't be too far behind. The only people we'll have to blame are the consumers themselves.

S2Killinit326d ago (Edited 326d ago )

No, I don't believe that Sony will not do the same. But, as I mentioned, MS is always the first to embrace such things and create the worst trends. Once they establish that this is the best way to make money, everyone else will follow. (Have to follow if they want to stay competitive)

thesoftware730326d ago

S2, and blackblades:

All from the Horse's mouth below.

"Artificial intelligence (AI) in video games is crucial for Gen Z and Gen Alpha, who seek “personalization across everything,” says PlayStation executive Asad Qizilbash."

“Advancements in AI will create more personalized experiences and meaningful stories for consumers.”

"He emphasized that AI could enable non-player characters to interact with players based on their actions, enhancing the personal connection within the game."

Yeah, Just MS and Activision...smh

S2Killinit326d ago

I’ve already explained myself twice. Quit your false equivalence, same thing the xbox fateful pulled before and after the ABK acquisitions. Which by the way, blew up in your faces real good. Now, doing the same thing when someone brings up MS’s nefarious behavior, defend them to the end, and watch them scorch gaming as they have been. At least rest of us can take consolation in that the smoke will go in your eyes before anyone else’s.

thesoftware730326d ago (Edited 326d ago )

"Quit your false equivalence, same thing the xbox fateful pulled before and after the ABK acquisitions. Which by the way, blew up in your faces real good."

I'm not sure what you are talking about, you seem to have a issue communicating, because we are on a post about using AI to create video games content, and you put that solely at the feet of MS and Activision, when it's being, and will be used industry wide, right from Sony mouth, I would say it's relevant...then you went on to give Sony a spit shine slob down about a masterpiece TLoU when this had absolutely nothing to do with Sony or TLoU, then you attempted to clean up your rambling spit shine with no real backing for a ridiculous comment.

Obviously you meant to post that nonsensical over exaggerated comment. I also don't know what blew up in people faces, I am perfectly fine with the game industry, I don't have time to be internet outraged about nothingness.

Really read your comment and listen to what you said.

"Activision. And MS. They will ruin console gaming forever."

Bro, for real? Really? Seriously? It's that serious? So there is nothing Sony and Nintendo can do against MS and Activision? MS is 3rd place with you even talking about?

If we stay relevant on MTX, then you still sound ridiculous because again, you lay it all at MS and Activision's feet when almost all companies have used some form of MTX, including yup... Sony.

S2Killinit322d ago

I read this comment, it boiled down to “seeiously?”.

My answer: yes seriously. Since you didn’t say anything else, what else can I tell you? Yes MS is seriously ruining gaming. They have been for some time, and working their way to where we are today, and aren’t even done yet. MS are the worst thing to happen to console gaming.

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swedishMeatwad327d ago

"The Yokai's Wrath bundle was released despite previous guarantees by Activision that A.I. would not be used for final assets, per the report."

We're talking concept art? Because as of right now there's no way to generate a final 3D model with final textures. So the final assets don't use AI. That's not to say that it sucks for 2D artist that it's easier to generate visual ideas and build from them leading to less 2D artists needed (really sucks), but are they say the final concept art was completely AI generated and then 3D artists built from that? And yes, I'll pile on that Activision as a publisher and their developers I have experience with suck and they'll do whatever, ethics be damned.

OldDuffer326d ago

Thats actually a very useful and informative piece, thank you.

just_looken326d ago

@OldDuffer

Your welcome though it seems it went over many users heads.

PapaBop327d ago

Wow I can just imagine the likes of Activision, EA and Ubi etc having an army of AIs creating overpriced crap and the fanboys just lapping it up. I hope the AIs have a good union.

montebristo327d ago

I understand why people think it’s good idea to Unionize to fight back against such things but it’s not. It’s a bad idea. It’s activisions wet dream to have these pumped out weekly by some AI. Protect your neck!

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