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Sony: PS Move selling "well beyond" expectations

Sony recently revealed that it had shifted 8.8 million units of motion-control peripheral PlayStation Move. And, according to the company’s Andrew House, that’s “well beyond” what had been forecast.

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Zir04702d ago

But isn't 8.8ml more like just 5ml considering the vast majority of Move owners would have purchased two?

5ml unique owners Vs. 12ml unique owners for Kinect is nothing to shout about especially when it was released 2 months before Kinect as well.

mimbly4702d ago

IMO selling a controller is selling a controller regardless if some one buys 1 or 2. the more controllers they sell the better.

malamdra4702d ago (Edited 4702d ago )

just to clarify something: when they talk about sales numbers for the Move controller, they're only talking about the one with the ball, not the navigation controller

now it's true that some games require two of those for optimal performance but they're not mandatory

so very few people actually have two Move controllers, I would say 10% so the real number should be around 8 million, not half like some people are mentioning further down on this thread

Heartnet4702d ago

@Malamdra

Although that true most motion games reccomend a second player in which youll need atleast 2 controllers so 10% is really like 30%

testerg354702d ago

Malambra, where do you get 10% from? I would assume a lot of users have 2.

SilentNegotiator4702d ago

"considering the vast majority of Move owners would have purchased two?"

Are you trolls still peddling this nonsense? These sales are of the PS Move controllers, not the navs. And there are only about TWO games that have the OPTION to use two MOVE controllers.

ArBilly4702d ago

And you have to consider, when Microsoft sells a Kinect unit, they sell one. When Sony sells Move, they sell Move, possibly a navigation unit, another move unit, a charging station, a PS Eye, maybe a Move Sharpshooter or other accessories.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out Sony has actually made far more money on Move then MS has made off Kinect. From a business standpoint - Move has far more potential. From a gamer standpoint, it has certainly proved it can hold it's own. No one is writing articles complaining about Move lag.

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sikbeta4702d ago

Hmmm... interesting, so if apply your reasoning to the x360, a guy who got his first x360 bricked and then went to buy another one, just counts as 1 sale, right?

1 person = 1 Sale

1 person buying the exact same product twice = 2 Sales

SpinalRemains1384702d ago (Edited 4702d ago )

Yeah.
The parent company still gets the revenue for the purchase. If we're talking about install base and amount of users who own said device, then buying 2 Moves is still one customer. So it's the same thing.
-I don't like 360 or Kinect but facts are facts, guys.

testerg354702d ago

Yeah, but MS extended the warranty to 3 yrs. So after the 3yrs then I would say yes. Now PS3 fats and older slims are getting YLOD so the same can be said for the Sony.

M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L4702d ago

Not even you can spin this, seriously.

silvacrest4702d ago

even if this was vaguely true where are you getting this 5 mill from?

if its just a guesstimate you shouldn't have bothered

and why are you assuming the vast majority bought two?
even if true, sales are sales, its not like sony gets less from someone buying two, for all you know they are buying two for a friend/brother/sister etc...

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Information Minister4702d ago (Edited 4702d ago )

Yes Zir0, Kinect is the best thing EVAH! And all PS3 owners are veeeeeery jealous of the voice recogn... eeehhhrrrr, I mean Kinect integration in Mass Effect 3. Fist bump!/s

You're trying too hard.

XabiDaChosenOne4702d ago

Couldn't the same argument be made for the amount of 360's some people had to buy?

metsgaming4702d ago

you say that about the move but i bet you wouldnt say that the 50+ million xboxs arent real because of the huge amount of people who had to buy multiples to replace the ones that broke. Or buy a new one because they think there old one will break soon.

moparful994693d ago

Are you suprised by your bubble count? I hope not oh and way to waste your only bubble on such a pointless comment...

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EVO-OM3GA4702d ago

I'm still waiting on serious MOVE only titles before I buy, the same with Kinect right now I dont see a reason to own any of them considering there arent enough games yet

Pintheshadows4702d ago

I'll get a move when Sorcery comes out. It looks cool.

sikbeta4702d ago

Good question, wanted at least a trailer on E3, anyway, Sony, where is my Sorcery + Move Bundle, gimme naow! :P

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

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SullysCigar954d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal954d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein954d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH955d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS954d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721954d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever954d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar954d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics954d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos954d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils954d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein954d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr954d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721954d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard954d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever954d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal954d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal954d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH954d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin954d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290955d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo954d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC954d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy954d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa954d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins954d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos954d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever954d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC954d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever954d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen957d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad957d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007957d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia957d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992957d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992957d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad957d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex957d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992957d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic957d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad957d ago (Edited 957d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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