Nearly 6 years after the Xbox 360 released, developers may now be facing the glaring issue of console limitations.
I don't think it is... I'm excited about everything Microsoft has to offer.
Sesame street is freaking awesome I am so excited!!!!...yeah NO The best graphics I have seen on the 360 is crysis 2 and I dont think it could do any better than that.
Sesame Street looks hilarious!
Theonlylolking Im guessing you didnt play the gears of war 3 beta.
Crysis 2 looks better than Gears... and i played it. dont get me wrong, they both look very good, but Xbox 360 has been showing age for a bit... but that is the nature of consoles in general.
Gears 2 already maxed out xbox 360 a long time ago...
MGS4 also maxed out PS3 a long time ago..
kutaragi Halo and Crysis 2 say hii!!! Grenadan Killzone 2 Uncharted 2, Infamous 2 all Say Hi!!! BF3 will show both of you the finger lol
i'm pretty sure they meant disk space.
"MGS4 also maxed out PS3 a long time ago" *go watch the U3 Demo* Hmmm... I don't think so...
MGS4 maxed out my patience! saving, loading, saving, loading the next loading screen, loading the saving screen, saving, loading, installing next chapter, loading next chapter.........
did you see gears 3 or crysis 2 ? no gears 2 didn't max it out gears 3 will probably do that anyway so the 360 will probably be maxed out this september.
The 360 was just about maxed out upon delivery. This is because it is very easy to program for since its exactly like a pc. The PS3 took a while to max out because they use the cell processor which makes the console operate very differently from your standard pc. Even today we are trying to figure out what this cell processor can do and it is becoming evident that it suits gaming better then a traditional processor.
this question was answered when gears 2 released.
why are you pretending like crysis 2 doesn't exist ? gears 3 mp beta also looked WAY better than gears 2 campaign and gears 3 campaign looks even better(go check out the e3 footage)so your statement totally fails
lol....is this article 3 years old....the 360 hit its peak with bioshock 1 and gears 1, nothing has come out since on it that has surpassed those watermarks ps3 peaked with uncharted 2 there is nothing left in either console maxed tapped used up 720p is the max they can do sputtering in 20-30 frames jaggies and pop-in with a topping of screen tear hopefully the wii u gives console gamers some better visual fidelity, you will not find it on those two last gen consoles
Funny because UnC3 looks way better than Uncharted 2 so yea.. plus: Screen tearing RARELY happens on ps3, ive only seen it on kz3 Stuttering FPS is not the hardwares fault, plus once again RARElY happens on ps3 jaggies are barely noticeable when you actually sit away from your tv like you should, but i know pc gamers dont hopefully pc gamers get some actual good games because so far, barely any have come forth compared to console just saying what other people wont
i use my pc on a 50" plasma most of the time or the 46" lcd and my ps3 on a 24" monitor almost always because 720p (or much less sometimes) looks absolutely awful on a 50" screen, it is tolerable on the 24" but still looks pretty bunk because of the lack of aa, example; bfbc2 on both consoles had absolutely ZERO anti aliasing, tons of screen tearing and looks horrendous, i know because my nephews just brought it over last weekend and wanted to play it....even on the 24" monitor it looked bad, very bad. Lol...they kept asking to put it on the bigscreen and i was like nahhh....it looks bad enough here.... dma_packet gt5 looks like ass in many areas, some of the premium cars look ok.......the crowd looks like the sims 2, the trees look terrible, all of the cars are covered in jaggies and it is not full 1080p it is some weird ass 1280x1080 resolution and it is a racing game, all that needs to be rendered is a track, some trees and the crowd and it still looks like booty in a lot of areas..
good pc games Witcher 2 (the graphics beat Uncharted 2) Total War series Rift plus, Elder scolls 5 and similar games are better on pc because of modding. I like the PS3 as well, but to say the pc has nothing to offer is ridiculous and in many ways the pc is even better.
@maxmill Yea man to say there are no good games on pc is pretty ridiculous, there are plenty of AMAZING games like everything somerandomdude posted and much more. It's just a fanboy thing of you to say. I have both pc and ps3, you dont have a gaming pc. Thus you have no reason to talk because you havent experienced the best of both worlds, you are simply comparing to something you have no clue about.
I hope you have a gaming PC and Steam to be saying that PC gamers don't get good games.. you should check out the vast library of games on Steam. They're cheaper and there's so many to choose from.. there are plenty of good games for PC, unless you're a long time PC gamer. The PS3 isn't as powerful as a high end PC.. don't tout it so high on a pedestal lol. It's good hardware, but it isn't perfect. True though, EVERY game i play looks shitty on my 42" lcd when i play my PS3.. ONLY when i'm up close. Sitting back on my couch, games look great.
-maxmill Oh, he mad.
the truth hurts btw yam that was a multiplat, no way in hell can you actually say unch2's lil jaggies piss you off that much Come on, btw a 50? Overkill btw with the Gt5 thing, you are correct that the crowd looks ass, but are you gonna cry because most games have that? Its also funny how I know its not full 1080p yet still looks nice
reading your 2 comments, i can conclude ur a total prick in real life...like pathetically sad human imo
There's actually a lot that STILL can be done with both platforms. Am I the only one excited about there not being another console generation? I mean, this generation is interesting and it's transcending gaming. If we jump into another console generation -- right now -- it would most likely be geared towards the casual crowd.
"i know because my nephews just brought it over last weekend and wanted to play it....even on the 24" monitor it looked bad, very bad. Lol...they kept asking to put it on the bigscreen and i was like nahhh....it looks bad enough here...." Off topic: Wow, I feel sorry for your poor nephews, all they wanted to do was play on teh big screen. On topic: I honestly don't think that either of the consoles have been maxed out. I'm sure there's some kick left in both systems.
Sorry but complaining about how the crowd looks in GT5 is pathetic. When you actually race there's no way you can notice how the crowd looks. Play the game, don't search for flaws. Every game has them. And everybody knows that consoles are limited. They are not meant to compete with high end PCs. They are cheaper and easy to use. Who would buy a $2000+ PC if the PS3 could do the same? This console gen will end sooner or later and it will all start over again. New consoles will emerge and they will be outdated in comparison to PCs when they release. Easiest prediction ever!
Agreed, haha. I'm pretty glad i recently built this new computer.. I play the same games i have on my PS3.. on my PC, because it's so much better lol.
I tried to play GT5, KZ3, God of War3 on the PC. Guess what? I couldn't because the PC don't have those games. Some of you PC elitist are just annoying. BTW, I also game on the PC.
not everyone likes gt5 and kz3, god of war was cool though.
I love GT5 and Killzone3 and God of War. But my only point was that there's no need to complain about consoles having less power than a PC. They have other advantages as price and exclusives.
I also play games on DC, GC, PS2, PS3, Wii, SNES, NDSL, PSP and PCs. They all have advantages and disadvantages. Saying one is better than the other is moot.
Put together a PC with a spec the same as a PS3 or 360 and then run the same multi-platform game. Which looks better now? Many new graphics cards have emerged since the 360's release but still top end PC games look roughly in the same gen. Where are all the PC exclusives that look better than consoles. Show me the top 50 exclusive better-than-console looking PC games? Most PC-only releases look like last gen. I have a gaming rig too but come on, running benchmarks and putting pretty lights in the case soon gets boring. Let the devs sweat to craft a game that is custom made for the exact hardware you are running and see it as the 'director' intended.
My PC's graphics card is starting to show its age but still runs every game. It might not be as good as a more expensive graphics card but I can still run games on high. To keep up I could by a new graphics card, but the fact of the matter is that I don't see the worth of it yet. A little higher anti aliasing in my games just don't matter. So therefore, I elect not to upgrade because the the benefits just aren't great enough yet. This is also why we still have this generations consoles.
I don't think you have played Crysis 2, have you?
Deep Silver is one of the worst devs on the planet. Risen wasn't a graphical powerhouse by any means, yet they completely mucked up the 360 graphics...even though they took over a year doing the port. You only need to have seen Todd Howard's demo of Skyrim on 360, to know how much Deep Silver sucks.
Yes. 360 is showing its age. PS3 is showing its age too. They are old consoles.
thank u i was waiting for sum one to say that i want a ps4 already im bored with this gen
i dont think this is about disc size.microsoft needs to buy up some first party developers. i cant believe they let bungie go. and they are wasting rare. what happened to conker and perfect dark. what about shadow run, pgr and kameo. i was facepalming myself at the kinect stuff.
i have to agree with this article onnce the machine is past 5 years it pretty confirms the machine has tapped long time ago and now nearly 6 years the graphics will not improve at all i cant say much for the ps3 because multi plats arent taking advantage of the console i think ps3 exclusives are the only ones are taking advantage of the ps3 hardware to be honest and after 5 years onthe market things will look the same in 2 years with not much improvments that my thought
Both the PS3 and 360 are dated. Face the facts, BF3 will prove this entirely, heck it already has. Regarding Risen 2 in the article, the original didn't hold back the PC version and 2 will also certainly be far superior on PC.
All 3 are but the Wii most of all.
If the games play well, I could give a flying fuck what they look like. Hell I still play old xbox/ps2/gamecube games from time to time and have a blast. I don't get why people get so worked up over the graphics. When did video games stop being about fun and start being about the tech? ^^^ A much better and more important article for the gaming community to consider. One more edit...just for the PC crowd: I also play old pc games haha
YEP, this completely and the fact that ppl will disagree is fukn hilarious you arent a gamer if you disagree with this comment this is exactly why i cant take pc gamers serious
Yea I'm with you. Just play the game and have fun with it jesus h christ people just SEARCH for things to argue and scream about anymore it disgusts me.
Yeah... don't just sit there and assume all PC gamers care about is graphics. In general, I think the argument starts with, "The PS3 has more power and better graphics than any other system." Then the PC crowd scratches its collective head and says, "Uh, no it doesn't." To which the PS3 crowd says, "Oh, well we don't care about graphics anyway. It's all about the games, man, and if you can't play X, Y, and Z, well then your platform of choice is shit, lol." And here's the reality; I have a PS3 and a high-end PC, built myself, which started as a budget unit. I love my PS3, but my preference is for the PC. I'm not criticizing anything the PS3 is or anything it does. I'm just criticizing stupid arguments.
change title to: E3 2006?
lol, the PS3 fanboys showed up hardcore up in here .. Anyway, it may be 'starting' to show it's age, but it's not old and deceased yet. Both of the two consoles are showing their age, that's obvious, but they got more..
what a load of crap for the 100th time :P http://n4g.com/news/781312/...
So.. that looks okay. The racing, I mean. It looked no more real than GT5, IF it looked that good. It might have been somewhere between Shift 1 and 2. So what was your point? Was that supposed to prove anything? Even a dvd can do HD movies; just not as well as a BluRay.
Well all the people saying it couldnt look any better then forza 3 becuase the 360 is maxed(also with gears 1) out got a foot in there mouth. All lot of games look great coming out, are you to blind to see that? Or is it Love sony hate microsoft relationship? lol
I don't hate Microsoft; I hate when people can't see what's right in front of them. For the theater mode to look that amazing is just fine; as I sad, you can play HD movies on the 360 without them being bluray. But the actual in-game graphics don't look drastically that much better than Forza 3. Better lighting effects, but otherwise not so much. The model they showed off at the start looked fantastic, but it won't be that beautiful to race in, I'm certain. I just want good games. I don't care who makes them or, honestly, how perfect they look. But if it's about graphical capability- as this is- then it should be noted that the 360 has, at best, been improving in very small increments recently. That tends to hint at a wall being reached.
But the actual in-game graphics don't look drastically that much better than Forza 3. Better lighting effects, but otherwise not so much. The model they showed off at the start looked fantastic, but it won't be that beautiful to race in, (I'm certain). The way you said makes it like you havent even watch the video ;/ I repect you have your opinion but i think it looks much better. I hate when people can't see what's right in front of them. Thats what im saying to :P There alot of good game out for all platforms.
lets be honest here folks forza 4 ingame is definatly improved, it dosnt look as good in game as that single car auto thing but it is a big improvment ingame over forza 3.
both xbox and ps3 is old. Wii U is most advance now. but few years later Wii U will get old and new consoles move on. life cycle. nuff said.
Wow this whole site is infested by moronic Sony fanboys. BOTH consoles are showing their age because both consoles are using tech that can hardly be described as next gen anymore. Just look at multiplatform games; there are hardly any instances where a PS3 game has been so decisively better than a 360 one in terms of performance. In fact, Bayonetta is the only example I can think of and that proved the opposite. When 360 games really start suffering then you can write a flamebait article such as this. Interestingly, I think the PS3's online interface was showing its age immediately after the console was released. What surprises me to this day is that Sony haven't cared to rectify that in any certain manner. By the way, I'm oblivious to how articles get approved on this site but either Sony fanboys here are responsible for it or the admin at N4G are and clearly, impartiality is then not a concern of theirs.
Your fanboyism force you to only see sony fanboys, when the most part here are delusional xfanboys in denial, just look at the agree/ disagrees when lies or facts are written....oh wait, you can't because you are biased.. Everyone agree that most of the time graphics are on par with ps3, multiplatforms are the key (problem)...but everybody also knows that ps3 has way more variety, quality exclusives and better graphics than anything else on console for the best ones...you can't deny that (nothing magic about that, every devs was saying the complex ps3 iwill be a beast 3,4 years after the launch)
LOL, you have the nerve to call him delusional with a comment like this. You are just plain crazy. This site is infested with PS3 fanboy that have their Xbox counterparts out numbered about 10 to 1. I think your fanboyism forces you to only see Xbox fanboys. When a comment like "Xbox sucks PS3 rules" can get 80+ agrees and 10 disagrees I think it's pretty clear what group of fanboys run this site. I really can't believe you would say something like this. You're either delusional yourself, or blind, maybe just in denial, but your comment couldn't be any further from FACT.
360 showing it's age? It's a younger design than the ps3.
It's no secret PC games SHOULD be better looking than their console counterparts... static hardware state v constantly evolving hardware, its easy to imagine why. a 6 year old PC wouldn't run much of today's stuff.
it would run pretty much all multiplat games, at similar settings compared to a console... some games would run better on a good 6 year old pc running windows xp. Those shitty processors and corners cut for ram really hurt the consoles. What really gets me is that games usually run like shit on 360 and ps3, makes no sense.
true. like crappy frame rates etc. They should just run at the optimal level for the hardware
Wait Gears 3 Forza 4 and Halo 4 have better graphics than their previous game I think he means ps3 just look at Uncharted 3 and Crysis 2
Last Year I would have agreed more than ever but after watching MS press conference. I saw reason to actually give Xbox one last shot before I let it go. Mainly because of the news ways the devs are implementing core gameplay mechanics into kinect. Did you all see the Ghost Recon: Future Soldier demo? that was badass. Same with Fable: Journey...cuz we can actually play a full hardcore game with kinect? who would have though so? EDIT: Oh and I could never give up Xbox until I truly finish the fight with the Chief himself!!! Halo 4 FTW!
halo 4 is the start of a new trilogy, you aint finishing nothing yet lol.
So anyone has any ideas about how Chief will survive on his way down to that new planet? I mean it looked as if they were entering orbit and the whole ship was on fire. so won't chief get burned alive?
his suit protects him i think, in one of the other halos he survived a fall like that, not too sure as im not the biggest fan of fps, not just halo, all of them.
360 been showing its age, microsoft is depending on kinect this year which is a waste of time, xbox 360 will always be XBOX 1.5 MS should have announces new hardware for 2012 instead of trying to sell a body motion controller. We all know who won the show at this years E3 2011 it was Nintendo and Sony both consoles have new disc format supports real 1080p High Definition games instead of 360 Sub-HD DVD9 that can only support 540p.
dvd is only storage, it has nothing to do with the render resolution.