IGN: Could PS3 + PS Vita = Wii U?

Upon first glance Nintendo seems to have once again revealed an entirely new and unique way to experience videogames. The Wii U controller, with its iPad-with-buttons design and its ability to work as a companion screen to your HDTV is undoubtedly cool, at least based off the conceptual demos and trailers Nintendo teased in its press conference and on the E3 show floor.

[Warprincess116]

Yep, the vita has everything the wiiU controller has. So it possible.

[NukaCola]

PS3 + PSV could > Wii U. But the idea that WiiU is 100% focused on the controller. It's the heart. I am curious to see how Vita works w/ PS3 and how WiiU turns out

[BrianG]

Same here, I'm actually shocked that solid specs weren't released on the CPU/GPU side of things for the Wii U at the conference.

Not to mention the game lineup graphics so far on par with Xbox and PS3 at the moment.

I really hope they know what they are doing with that controller, like you said it seemed to be the focus. But at glance (I missed the conference) it isn't looking that impressive.

If anyone has any good info hit me up in a PM. It would be much appreciated.

[Cartesian3D]

I said the same exact thing
http://n4g.com/news/780369/...

(beside all those features like back touch panel or etc) the BIG difference is PSVITA has back camera and it will make a huge difference in AR accuracy ..

BTW PSvita is an actual console with same graphic level of HD consoles.. so you can actually go out with PSVITA and play the exact game on the go, but you cant do that with Wii U controller

[Cartesian3D]

double post... sorry

[Ju]

Cartesian, you were not the only one with that thought. And there were quite some more, it seems, considering one even wrote an article about it.

[Ilikegames76]

I'm worried about the battery life of PS Vita. With all the power, I hope it can at least last more than 1.5 to 2 hours.

[moparful99]

Ok the reason the wii sold like crack is becuase it was cheap.. Having a screen integrated into the controller is going to drive cost up.. Not only will the console cost more but additional controllers are going to be costly... The vita on the otherhand is a standalone console that can do its own thing as well as integrate with a ps3 wich millions already own.. Sounds like nintendo is behind the ball on this one...

[jack_burt0n]

The vita can do alot more than the wiiu.

they already said you can use the vita as a controller on the ps3 but, WHY!? lol they didn't see much purpose like how many people used the psp to remote play.

edit:
its also a resistive screen, not hi rez or multitouch makes a crap tablet.

SO basically you could stick a sticker on ps3 titles saying veeta support and bam you got wiiu full competitor come on more disagrees :)

@keiser
didn't you watch the reggie interview!! it uses a bluetooth tech for the streaming u think the vita can't take a stream from the ps3!? it could then add 4 cores of processors to the 8 threads in the ps3.

[KeiserSosay4788]

I have to disagree there. Technically since it is streaming the data from the console you are getting graphics from the hardware in the console, unlike the vita which has its own hardware.

[Ju]

Or what's more, it would allow studios to support both, WiiU and PS3/Vita.

BTW: Remote play streams the video from the PS3. It does not render on the device. It would actually be smarter to offload that in case for the Vita - it is fast enough to render PS3 games in 960x540 (or close to that).

[sikbeta]

God Damn, that's exactly what I was thinking, much more when remember the guys @ Sony showed *Ruin* that's integration form the get-go, it can do it with the benefit of being 2 gaming devices with their own games, while the other being the controller for the new N console...

[Ju]

...with the big difference, you can actually take the game with you.

[5119ent]

witht hat said...im less impressed with wii u

[Graey]

Just call it PSL. Playstation Life. Isn't that what Kaz called it anyway. Vita=Life.

So PSL

[Mr Tretton]

Or PSV, which I can safely bet everyone will be calling it in a month. (and from then on)

[jxzcvk]

or ps no life cos i wont have a life playing that thing all day!

[eagle21]

Anyway, remote play with psp never works perfectly..all slow and laggy. .Every WiiU demo i've seen does it effortlessly. N4g pu-leeze. Maybe ps4.

[Shok]

I knew this would pop up. Thing is though:

If the Wii U supposedly sucks, why would people brag about Vita being able to do the same thing? Kinda hypocritical.

The PS3 with Move can do anything the Wii can do right? Yet at the same time, it's not. I think we can all agree that the we haven't gotten the same Wii games (like Red Steel 2) with Move.

Sony has the same capabilities but they simply don't do it. Just listing some observations.

[xtreampro_REVENGE!]

The PSV CAN do the same things the WiiU controller does but that's not it's primary purpose. We're just saying that it can do all those things and more as passing comment.

But the PSV is a portable gaming machine not a plastic shell filled with gimmicks.

[Just_The_Truth]

because people expected more than a controller the vita is it's own system and also has two analog sticks as well as 3g meaning you can access you ps3 anywhere in the world using 3g/wifi. Unlike the U which you have to be home to use and you also to buy and whole new system to do so. Some people have just bought the wii and now the need to get another not cool. Sony does need to back their products more though poor six axis and remote play.

[kikizoo]

"The PS3 with Move can do anything the Wii can do right? Yet at the same time, it's not. I think we can all agree that the we haven't gotten the same Wii games (like Red Steel 2) with Move. "

?? you don't have that bad game, but killzone, mag, re5, etc , what the point of your statement ?

+ move can do anything the wii can do, and more, and better (more accurate) + things kinect can do...

[Shok]

Those are just games that SUPPORT the Move, they're not built ground-up for them. That's the advantage the Wii has over the Move. For instance, Conduit's controls customization is far superior to Killzone 3's.

Yes, like I said, the Move can do everything the Wii can AND MORE but Sony's not doing those things.

[stragomccloud]

With Wii every game supports the Wii remote+nunchuck combo.... so it's not really a valid argument. I have a PS3 and an Xbox 360, and a really beefy gaming PC, but I chose black ops on the Wii because of how darn accurate the thing is.

[stragomccloud]

I love how people like to disagree with simple observations. I think because just disagree with whatever they don't want to hear.

[MoDyDo]

No I don't think it's the same, I mean this isn't a console it's a controller, though you can play on it but it doesn't have it's own exclusive games, it plays Wii U and Wii games, so it's a controller

[Heartnet]

True dat But in complete theory the Vita could act as a contoller with a screen also :)

Like if they took Remote Play to a whole new level :O

[MoDyDo]

what I'm saying is it's kinda hard to compare Vita with a controller, though they have some similarities, dude I'm all for Vita and you're right if a lot of games supports Remote Play it will act as the Wii U's controller

[Emilio_Estevez]

I approve of this article. I was thinking exactly that while Nintendo was doing their conference.

[Undeadwolfy]

Concur

[beast242tru]

yes its better than the wii u actually

[VampiricDragon]

yay for sony reassurance

[TripleAAARating]

Sony reassurance?...

They don't need reassurance when things are so obvious.... I could have streamed Metal Gear Solid, watch Videos, play music, watch photos on my PSP from my PS3 if I took a trip to China and it was in the Caribbean since 2007

[VampiricDragon]

actually they do need reasurance..........

[HeavenlySnipes]

Nintendo wanted Sony to have the ability to laugh at them by basically doing the same thing the PSV has with the PS3.

All the things shown could easily be done with a Move, Ps3, and PSV.

[fatstarr]

and all of those concepts were put out on the market by nintendo.

INNOVATION
Reggie said it in the G4 interview
and in the end of the press conference,

its what nintendo has and the others dont.

[HeavenlySnipes]

Everything they showed was shown in the Sony conference. Playing a game on the PS3 then transferring save to PSV to play was shown with that RPG.

UGC content from PS3 games available with the PSV titles

All that stuff they showed with the WiiU as another screen to be used in game could EASILY be used in a PSV-PS3 title

[fatstarr]

they innovated a lot.

first a controller not a hand held its
a controller that has a touch screen, the first in mainstream gaming

they showed ways to play that cant be done on other systems.
if that's not an innovation... nintendo did this long b4 this years e3 years ago. it was called the legend of Zelda 4 swords, hooking up your portable to the gamecube.

seems like psv is just a portable ps3... that's cool but not innovative. everything i seen is a rehash or a port.
the ideas that they are blowing up have been around for years and
some even done on the ps3 with the psp

sony just bumped it up to the next handheld gen.

the wiiu controller is unique because its a controller not a 250-300$ handheld. in fact nintendo could even mimic the things psv-ps3 does

with 3ds-wiiu people act like the 3ds isnt up there in terms of technology.

[BrianG]

What about HD native graphics? Nintendo do that to first?

No the Xbox and PS3 did.

I don't understand why everyone believes Nintendo when they say they are "innovating" everything.

To be fair, the industry simply improves on ideas that are already out if they can not create something completely new. If anyone thinks Kinect or Move is not an innovation, your blind, Move does 3D space with 1:1 precision, Kinect adds 3D depth to the gameplay.

Not here to argue about how useful those features are, but they are certainly innovations in their own rights.

Stop pretending that only Nintendo innovates.

EDIT: Not to mention the PSV has a REAR touch pad, hello innovation. Not to mention Six-Axis control, which Nintendo COPIED with Motion Plus, adding the additional two axis, again, Nintendo uses others ideas, much like Sony and MS do. Sometimes they even improve on those ideas.

[sourav93]

Adding to HeavenlySnipes list and confirming his last point about multiple screens, in Formula One 06 for the PS3, you could use the PSP as a rear view mirror. So if using a portable device as a gameplay element for a game on a home console was possible with the psp, then it should be damn easy with the PSV. Thus, this proves that there was no innovation from Nintendo this year.

[Commander_TK]

Genesis does what Nintendon't!

[n4f]

please brian
hd grafix is not innovation its just progression
it like saying 7.1 tru surround is innovation!
innovation is when someone put something new on the table and changes thing
. like when nintendo came with rumble or joystick or motion controller, or dreamcast came with online xbox with internal hard-disk
did you dare say nintendo copy six-axis control?
c'mon son! nintendo came with motion control as a mainstream main controller and THEN sony came with broken motion six-axis.i dare you to say it was not broken remember lair? and btw wii motion plus came before move and kinect was even rumors

[squallheart]

@fastarr this wii u is basically a dreamcast controller with a touchscreen, if ure going to give credit to who did it first then please give credit to sega. Your being blinded like apple geeks who believe they did everything first.

[fatstarr]

@squallheart
im not blinded
alls im saying the dreamcast was a black and white screen

this is a 6.2 inch color touch screen. yes i credit dreamcast for the idea of putting a detachable screen on the controller, but if you are gonna do all that

think about
memory saves
analog sticks
rumble
connecting your portable to your system
playing portable games on your home console
and the rest of things like that.

saying the dreamcast does what the wiiu does is saying the wii has better processors than the ps3.

[Picture_Dancer]

The question is, will Wiimote be bundled with Wii-u and with the new controller? Or maybe we would have to buy one?

[Theyellowflash30]

Yeah your speaking as if Sony developer motion controls and game information sharing between a console and a controller.

[stragomccloud]

Except PSV will be a lot more expensive than just an included controller. That's why Gameboy Advance integration with Gamecube never really took off. The cost of admission was too high.

[Samus HD]

It's better because you can't play with psvita on ps3 like Wii U

[Undeadwolfy]

Wow, cant argue with that logic. Bravo sir bravo.

[fatstarr]

but yet will sony do this
no they wont

i wont even debate on this article

nintendos system is a system with a screen
marketed at its casual croud and some hard core

vita is just the next psp ive never seen anyone use a psp as a controller and i doubt they would do that with the vita.

but i know wiiu will be a success cause people are already making comparisons and thinking how sony and microsoft can take this good idea, copy it and steal it. but nintendo isnt telling us stuff it has a whole year and a half untill release...

when nintendo is making millions this year with the 3DS and next year with the WIIU and sony and microsoft copies its compettetors ill be right there on n4g laughing

*mark this comment for future reference 1-2 years form now*

[pcz]

wiiu was barely announced 6hrs ago and the opposition are already trying to figure out ways sony could counter. thats fear!

vita is a standalone system, wiiu controller is just that... a controller! but ingeniously it can also be used as a stand alone gaming device.

vita and ps3 isnt a realistic interface because its so fxxking expensive! you would never ever ever ever ever have a controller for a computer that retails at £300. so stop dreaming and wake up!

its obvious sony and microsoft will now go to their drawing boards and copy this interface for gaming pioneered by wiiu. it is a cool idea.

[stragomccloud]

I don't know why you got so many disagrees. The existence of this article proves you're right.

[Christopher]

Sony already showed multiple games where content can be shared between PS3 and PSV. They also showed being able to race against others on PSV or PS3 with wip3out. Then they also demoed going from playing a game on PSv to PS3 with the one diablo-esque game.

Not to say that Sony and Microsoft don't copy Nintendo, but a lot of what Wii U showed was also showed already with PSVita.

I'm not sure if PSVita will be an "expensive version" of this since Wii U seems to be tied to a whole new console launch, which could cost $299 or more at release.

I'm interested to see who leverages this technology the best, but I'm not going to declare someone the winner when its obvious both are completely new and trying to do as much as possible.

*** you would never ever ever ever ever have a controller for a computer that retails at £300***

Yeah, but PSVita is a ton more than a controller. It's a portable gaming device that isn't limited to being near the Wii U, it can play all the media that PSP can, it can be connected anywhere with 3G, and it allows you to take your games with you digitally.

[Studio-YaMi]

Thank you for completing my comment by mentioning what I wanted to say about the PSVita

+Bubbles
+Agree

[pcz]

Yes, vita can share content with the ps3, but that is a feature... something it can do if that feature is available. the wiiu controller was designed specifically for that purpose, not as a feature.

you wont get a vita bundled with a ps3 and sold as a competitor to wiiu.. as i said its just too expensive. so vita and ps3 is not competition with wiiu. stop pretending like vita is all of a sudden the answer to wiiu, its not. its a completely different species.

wiiu will use the technology the best because it only exists for that use. with vita its just an extra feature, devs wont necessarily use its interface abilities with ps3. on the flip side wiiu will always interface with wiiu console, so its use will always be pushed in interesting and innovative ways.

thats why its silly to compare vita/ps3 with the U. psp is a portable games console/media device. U is a home console. just because the controller resembles a handheld doesn't mean its in competition with vita or comparable... its a controller!

i think it will take people a while to get their head around the idea, im still not sure if i like it. but i think nintendo know what they are doing. i think its the first real step towards a marriage between home and portable gaming.

i think the next gen of computers will be like tablets, nintendo are clever to create this wiiu system, its like a bridge to that generation. i mean, why have a handheld console and a home console, when you can have one that fulfils both needs.

enter wiiu :) but yes, that dream isnt fully realised yet, it has its limitation (not being able to wander away from the console).. its a start!

now sony and microsoft will just copy, i mean improve on wiiu with their next consoles.

[prdn23]

@pcz LOL I love the sarcasm in your last sentence. Sony and their fanboys always mock nintendo for being gimmicky and all, but they keep copying, uh, improving nintendo's idea after a while.

[Studio-YaMi]

Good to know that you have a crystal ball that knows the future ! can you tell me if I will win the lottery ??

*sigh*..

It's more like you Nintendo Fanboys are actually afraid for the horrible decisions Nintendo did for their E3 and how underwhelming it was ! Why would people buy a game that came out on 2 consoles (360/PS3) and then have to wait a whole year just to play the same game again ? they didn't say that those games will look different than their counterparts on 360 and PS3,isn't that shooting yourself in the damn foot ??

And since you know so much about the future,let me predict too since it sounds like fun ! I think after 1 or 2 years,the PS4/720 will be released,and then the Wii-U will feel like an outdated old gen console like the Wii was this generation ! and The PSVita will take over the 3DS market and Nintendo will go bankrupt in these upcoming 3 years.

See ? we can all have our own little crystal ball too ! >:D

btw,I love Nintendo games,I love their exclusives,I finished Mario Galaxy 1/2 3 times each with all the hidden secrets and green stars,but I hate people like you who speak out of their heads about something they don't even know **** about,yet you have to go for the bold comment macho man type and start pumping up rumors and speculations that might not even happen.

In other words,grow up,a lot of people was disappointed with what Nintendo showed of their new console,but am not going to judge the console itself yet,I'll wait till I see more about it and its games.

*Edit*
I've seen you comment on every Wii-U topic defending the thing that you know nothing about yet apart from it's controller,are you really that desperate ?

[Just_The_Truth]

you can stream any ps1 games and minis to the psp and you can also stream lair a ps3 game and some psn titles as well. You can also stream music,videos and pictures stored on you HDD and your not limited to your home. You can be in china and all you'd have to do is find a wifi connection. The main issue though was that for ps2 and ps3 games you needed another analog the vita has that now so it would only make since to evolve. look it up on youtube if you doubt this.

[The Great Melon]

Sony I want you emphasize your abilities with remote play more with the Vita. You have the capability to steal a bit of Nintendo's thunder. The only thing that you are missing are the second L and R buttons on the Vita, but the can easily be worked around with capabilities of a touch screen.

Think about this and show it off at TGS or Gamescon (whichever is first).

[Nitrowolf2]

I heard about a PS Hack that allowed remote play on everygame. I hope Sony does this with Vita. That would be amazing and i like the Wii U idea of moving the game to the controller, Sony could easily do this.

[Heartnet]

:) was thinking same thing :D Remote play is such an unknown and currently useless feature :D being able to actually play the ps3 using it on the NGP Would be Sweeet :D

Also the back buttons can easily be replaced with the 2 back rear touch panels

[MIDDLE_FINGER_U]

all i can think about is what is goin to be the price of the wiiu remote.

[DJMarty]

All Sony would have too do is make all new games work on both PS3/Vita, make cloud saving PS3/Vita part of the SDK.

[dennisannamant]

wow this site is disgusting, full of sony fanboys. say anything good about sony and u get 30 agrees, say anything that doesnt border on sony ball licking and u get 30 disagree's

[admiralthrawn87]

yeah its true

[Heartnet]

:D Sooo? could it be that Hardcore gamers favouir the hardcore console rather than Nintendo who focus on the casual>

Seing as casual gamers are very unlikely to visit let alone create an account and post on this site:)

[KratosGod3]

@dennisannamant
So... WTF!!! are you doing here???

[dennisannamant]

thanks for proving me right

[TKCMuzzer]

So hold on, Sony creates a nice piece of hardware, shows it off, lets you play it, demonstrates what it can do and Nintendo show us what MIGHT be possible with their future console.
Gamers like other consumers judge what they see, Sony has something , Nintendo MIGHT have something. To have a reveal with virtually no reveal is poor on Nintendo's part. Releasing no tech specs, no real hardware on show and with the console out next year. They should have had something more concrete to go on (you know, performance etc), at the moment they are selling everyone an idea, not a product.

[El-Fenemeno1213]

then go to another side where you can ride on what you want