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PS3 Could Still Finish First When This Gen Finishes

GPT: "Despite the issues Sony has faced recently with PSN, there’s no denying the long-haul capability the Playstation 3 possesses. This is already being proven with the recent news of Nintendo’s next console likely releasing within a year from now even though the Wii released at the same time as the PS3. So is it too farfetched to think that the PS3 could pull of a Super Nintendo? The SNES trailed the SEGA Genesis for most of the 16-bit generation, but when the dust settled, it was the Super Nintendo that ruled the 16-bit sales charts."

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BeaRye4707d ago

PS3 can still win on exclusives alone.

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GunShotEddy4707d ago

Anyone who counts out the PS3 has no idea what the console is capable of. It is the most advanced console ever created.

DankJemo4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

Of course, it's got the most hardware behind it, but there is a lot to consider with Sony, especially in the last six weeks or so... The Wii has long since reached it's "Shelf life" that's why we are hearing stuff about Nintendo's new system (supposedly,) although Sony is really shooting itself in the foot right now, with all the security breaches they have on literally a daily basis it will be very interest to see how that affects their business model, because you can have the most advanced hardware, but if you can't keep it or your users safe that piece of hardware really isn't worth that much.

Focker4204707d ago

I haven't counted out the PS3 once this entire gen. Based on the extremely high sales numbers of the PS2 I'm certain we can expect a similar outcome with the PS3 when the price drops. Many not PS2 numbers but something close.

thats_just_prime4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

Next gen starts in 2012 so there is now way ps3 will be in 1st or even 2nd place by then. If you count the next gen when the ps4 comes out then yeah maybe $ony will hold on to their old tech till 2020 just to finish 1st. Oh and the ps3 isnt likely to see another price drop this gen. If it does it only be by like 50 dollars

hiredhelp4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

Theyve won already against microsoft. But not sure with nintendo they have alot there own games.

SuperLupe4707d ago

How have they already won against MS since they're still trailing a couple of mullions of units behind and the 360 ?

Why o why4707d ago

Mullions. How many,, jk anyway it matters not to me but thats what happens when you give your nearest competitor almost a year and half headstart. Huffing and puffing isnt quite accurate but ms has definitely put its mark on console gaming. The market is bigger so theres enough space for all to thrive. The playstation3's longevity seems to be bigger than both the wii and 360 so maybe it will end up with the most units sold. We'll see i suppose

Redgehammer4707d ago

Globally The gap is 3.4 million behind the 360. So, although, Sony may have passed MS in your world, it has not in the real world.

gamingdroid4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

Won against MS?

Really?

Considering, only MS and Nintendo are the ones to increase both market share and total units sold!

I believe Sony is the only one that hemorrhaged market-share to MS and Nintendo....

hiredhelp4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

forget the sales, ansew me this question then
why are more guys on n4g saying they own both systems then. if not selling well cos past couple years that wasnt the case.
everyone was anti sony except the sony buyers. but since the price dropped and more exclusives and free online everybody wants a slice of the action.

im not intrested never have been on console sales. i go by the growth i found of people ive met in playstation home and on n4g to name a few that have had 360's or still have 360's

they have over taken ms by exclusives is what im mainly aiming at. why i stated nintendo do alot of there own games weather by 3rd partys doing for them.

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Raoh4707d ago

Nintendo does. Outside of a few titles here and there, third parties have slammed the wii and some have just ignored it completely.

So how does nintendo get by? First Party Titles.

Everyone got excited at last years E3 Nintendo 3DS showing, what excited them? First Party Titles.

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ThePsychoGamer4707d ago

Sales wise they may be able to pass the 360 in sales by the time Sony releases the PS4, but I think Sony would have to release a 150-200 PS3 model soon and support the console well into the PS4's lifespan to have any chance of beating Nintendo in terms of sales.

news4geeks4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

What if the ps3 keeps selling long after the demise of the wii. It's not impossible that the ps3 could sell well over 100million and surpass the wii. Unlikely, but you never know with a $200 ps3.

maxcer4707d ago

by that logic the last(ps2) gen isn't over yet because they still sell the thing.

this generation will be over as soon as the first new console comes out. unless your a fanboy and you decide when the generation ends to suit your needs.

i.e."this gen isn't over until ps3 passes the 360/wii in sales. derp"

news4geeks4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

That's just silly. You can't disregard sales because newer technology is out. It still counts as a console in the home and a sale for the company.

You're arguing from the perspective of a fanboy war whereas I'm arguing from the perspective of a business.

ps2 is still selling and those console sales count for sony. If xbox or gamecube were still selling they would count for nintendo and microsoft. You can't disregard a console as a failure and a loss because it sells slowly in the short run but big in the long run. The hardware is finished when the public stop buying it irrespective of what the fanboys think.

Prepare for this gen to be over when project cafe releases. /sarcasm

evrfighter4707d ago

Once a next gen engine title launches...thats it gen over. A good indicator would point to bf3 as it cuts out dx9 entirely. Still yet to be decided until more info is released

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PSjesus4707d ago

Who cares,PS3 had a lot of AAA exclusives,been the first
BR player for most of us and that's enough for me.

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Valk4707d ago

@Snake, so you are saying thr majority of PS3 owners have no taste in games?

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies15d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken15d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga15d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken15d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6414d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long14d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197214d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12515d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91315d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer14d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91314d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit14d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher15d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6914d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit14d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher15d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken15d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197214d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2315d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218314d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder15d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades21d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken21d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades21d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii20d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit22d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos22d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9522d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia22d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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