PlayStation 3 top of the pops as Xbox flops (Europe)

James Rivington reports for Tech.co.uk on 23 Oct 2007:

PS3 sales have seen a huge spike since the console's big price cuts early this month. The European reduction in the cost of the 60GB PS3 and the introduction of the £299 40GB one has sent Sony's baby screaming up the console league table.

At the same time, Xbox 360 sales crashed through the floor; Microsoft managed to shift just 37,303 of them in that week.

Does this latest news suggest a significant shift in the fortunes of the ongoing console war?

[krackchap]

wow 3 reports already,lol at insecure bots

[Nostradavis]

Simple econmics if you ask me. Not really a suprise.

[toughNAME]

from the reports section some people do seem desparate

but this IS one week...i dont know if I would call it a 'flop'

Sony and the PS3 brand already own the rights to the word 'flop'

[ericnellie]

where credit is due. To some this might not be suprising or considered simple economics but, no matter what -- this is still really good news for the boys and gals at SONY. They have worked through a lot of negative press, price issues, delays, and a whole lot more to get to where they are today. Good job people and keep up the good work;)
They've still got a long way to go but, in my opinion, they are starting to go places with this PS3 gadget;)

[Sam Fisher]

just b/c of mgs 4 and ff series ...THATS IT, no killzone(too many chances and it sux...portable and home console)i wouldve said dmc but WE all no how that came out

[ReBurn]

It looks to me like the Xbox 360 needs more games. I know that the PS3 has gotten a bad rap for not having the software support that it needs, but the 360's holiday lineup isn't exactly looking pristine, either. I have Halo 3, and it is a good game. I'm looking forward to Mass Effect, too. But what else is there?

Microsoft needs to step it up. They need to cut the price even further considering the box is now two years old and they need to put out some killer software. And it wouldn't hurt to further cut prices on older titles, too. There's no reason why Gears of War should still be $60, no matter how good it is.

[bluebrad1974]

360 needs games?

[sjappie]

PGR4, Orange Box, COD4 and Assasins Creed next month. And some other smaller games. Not satisfied?

@ below Why does it matter if those games aren't exclusive, they're probably better than most ps3 exclusives and people can play them for the smaller amount of money on 360. And what? PGR4, Bioshock and HALO just came out and are exclusives. Then you got Mass Effect coming this year. What ps3 exclusives came/are coming out the last 4 months of this year?
Uncharted, R&C, HS, Warhawk. That's 4 exclusives for ps3 and 4 exclusives for 360 in the last 4 months of the year.
So, according to your logic, ps3 needs more exclusives to.

[ReBurn]

Only one of those games you mention is exclusive. The 360 needs NEW first-party games because a library of year-old software isn't going to carry the system. Sorry. I love my 360, but Microsoft really hasn't announced anything new and exciting.

[ceedubya9]

The 360 does need another price but, and even for some of its games. However, I don't agree with your opinion of the 360 needing more games. Just because Mass Effect is the last big exclusive the 360 has coming this year doesn't mean that it is the ONLY GAME coming this year. Sure, a lot of those games are multiplatform, but that still plays into Microsofts favor since said games are identical (and sometimes better) on the cheaper console. The good news is that the PS3 has plenty of games for PS3 owner to play/look forward to. But I don't think that a larger number of exclusive games that may or may not be good for the PS3 means the 360 lineup is hurting.

[Ju]

Make that a couple more.

PS3 has Haze, Folklore, Time Crisis 4, Uncharted and Ratchet, plus, if you want Lair and HS, Warhawk and Eye of Judgemnet. These are the exclusives from August to December (actually November, nothing in December so far) opposed to 360s PGR4, Bioshock, HALO, Ace Combat 6 and Mass Effect (and 2 or three smaller ones like SceneIt! or Viva Pinata2).

Out of that list, only Ace Combat could sell me a 360. But to be honest, if you compare these two lists, there is an attempt to create more variety into the 360 line up, while the PS3 already has it - with a one year shorter market penetration. This is the main difference, IMO.

[Vavoom]

Uh, what's the best selling game at this moment on the PS3. I'm willing to say RFOM and probably Motorstorm. Are those not about 1 year old. Please stop making sh!t up as you go, most of the time you guys contradict whatever you said the day prior.

i.e. "I'm fine with the games out on the PS3" Counter = The xbox 360 need games (Even though they have more games than the ps3)

"MS has too many skus, they are just confusing the public" Counter = 20gig, 40gig, 60gig, and 80gig ps3. (all of which are approved by sony fanboys.)

"A year old game library is not going to carry a console (xbox 360), counter - the games carrying the PS3 right now MS and RFOM are a year old. (Theory failed)

"Xbox 360 only shipped 37,000 thus a failure" Counter = PS3 sold 7k in same market a few weeks ago (No mention of a failure there)

I could go on and on, but what's the point. You guys actually remind me of a bunch if juveniles with no sense of responsibility. Just run you mouths and don't worry about what was actually said.

Both sad, and embarrassing. BTW, I own a ps3 also, but I really don't care to much for a lot of you PS3 fanboys, you really take the fun out of have the console, because there's no way in hell I'd wanna play online with you. (Because as a whole you're too annoying on this site.)

I know this doesn't hold true for the majority of the PS3 Fans, but the few are really ruining it for the many. And the same thing can also be said about the 360 fans.

[jaja1434]

To Vavoom...

If I could hug you, I would. But I can't, so I'll give you a bubble instead.

[ReBurn]

I'm really not interested in what the top selling PS3 game is. That doesn't factor into what's going on with the 360 in any way. My post wasn't intended to be a PS3 vs. 360 comment. I have both systems, there's no need for me to take sides.

Vavoom, there was no reason for you to go on your anti-PS3 tirade there. In all of that you didn't make a compelling statement contrary to what I said. All you did was bash on the PS3. Aside from Halo 3 and Mass Effect, what games are going to differentiate the 360 from the PS3? If I'm missing something then let me know.

[joydestroy]

that's why you should own both of 'em. you don't have to worry about how many exlusives one or the other is getting.

out of all the games mentioned....
Uncharted, Haze, Warhawk (maybe, haven't played it yet), and Mass Effect.

even though i've had my 360 longer, after the holidays i'll have more exclusives for my PS3 which i just got a week ago.

people like different types of games, but i'm happy with the PS3 and 360 lineup.

[Sam Fisher]

buy both systems dont need to wrry bout exclusives and any ways none of these will die anytime soon they have too many hardcore fans to let go of the systems(except wii , i mean seriously i no they have die hard fans but come on just let it go and die)

[KINGDRAMA]

play beyond rrod

[sjappie]

after halo3 surge. They sold a sh*tload of consoles last month. This is just downtime before the holidays.

[resistance100]

Actually in europe halo didn't have a massive impact in console sales

[Mikey_Gee]

We all know this site is riddled with fanboys, but truth be told (admit it or not) .. NEITHER CONSOLE has flopped. And guess what kids .. NEITHER WILL.

Of course the PS3 is hot right now ... it JUST PUSHED OUT the cheaper 40 GIG model. It is the same as the 360 topping when Halo 3 was pushed out. Then you will also see the sales level out or even drop. Not because it is a FLOP, but because everyone who wants one and was waiting for this price drop will be after buying it. I don't see folks running out and buying a PS3 (same as a copy of Halo 3) each and every week to keep sales very high. I mean think about it .....

But to call either a true success or a flop is just plane face ignorance. If you want true numbers, wait till each console is out for the 5 year mark, go back and review and then see how it turned out. Now who will win ???? Who knows and who cares. But I will tell you this .. "NEITHER WILL BE A FLOP"

I really wish folks would get over this fanatical, to the death fanboy attitude toward their console. I mean if you go by this sites antics, you would never be able to have PS3 and XBOX 360 fans in the same room for fear of them killing each other.

Now how stupid is that.

[Ju]

I agree somewhat. What Halo3 did to the 360 sales spike, the 40G model did to PS3 sales right now. However, in case of the PS3, the 40G model sold 60/80G machines (80 in the US, because the price went down before the 40 hits here).

People rush to get a PS3 with BC before its over. Doesn't mean, the sales won't stay. Now, after that will be gone, the PS3 is (almost) on par with the 360 price, and games will there be plenty around Christmas. ($399 is a price, which I think would justify the additional features even for people with a lower budget).

I think, if the 360 price stays (I don't expect them to lower the price, except they are really forced to - and make an even bigger loss), the PS3 will stay afloat. The Halo effect is over, now its more about the line up. The 360 has some blockbusters coming, but so has the PS3. I also hope, Sony, after the big $499 success, will keep a big box model in the lineup ( a) BC and b) card readers).

I don't think, the distance will be so dramatic in the future, though,

[ukilnme]

Great comments. There's room for all platforms. I hope they all stay afloat.

[Daishi]

Bubbles for mikey and ju for mking since! Does it not seem that every week or everyday even you hear 360/wii/ps3 sales blowing away the competition how will their competitors stay afloat? I remember these debates between the PSP and DS years ago and look at both those consoles...

[dantesparda]

"I really wish folks would get over this fanatical, to the death fanboy attitude toward their console. I mean if you go by this sites antics, you would never be able to have PS3 and XBOX 360 fans in the same room for fear of them killing each other."

Amen, to that brother, amen! (and im not even religious, lol!) but i like this stance you have. Keep up the good work buddy, you got my respect and backing on this. But its true! they are only video games systems, and the level of hate they create amongst each other cant be good. But oh well, what else should we expect from a bunch of dumb little kids or dumb adults?

And p.s. 24 agrees and no disagrees so far. Impressive!

[IntelligentAj]

Damn good point!!! Unfortunately no matter hwo much this is repeated you'll still have people who would prefer to have console win as opposed to taking in all the good competition and realizing who the main beneficiary is from all of this:us GAMERS!!!!

[Mikey_Gee]

Thanks for the positive feedback guys. I am even happier to see that I am NOT ALONE on my views

* gets down off soap-box and pops open a beer *

QUOTE:
main beneficiary is from all of this:us GAMERS

** BINGO ** hit the nail on the head

[AnalFace]

ahahahaa!! silly little bots!!! ahahaha!! Europe are falling for Playstaion again.

Deal With It.

Edit: Sales will go through the roof this xmas, the 40gig is the winning console IMO. The 360 elite is a failure, they put a crappy 120 gig HDD on it and a HDMI and expect people to buy it, Ha! not forgetting the failure rate, Hmmmm over 30%!!!

Ms should give up :)

[sjappie]

You must've been really scared if this news makes you all happy and victorious. Handle this: Sony sold 64.000 units this week, and it was a very good week. So, in the best case they sell 256.000 consoles a month. The difference between total 360/ps3 sales is at least 5 million, as we all know. So, if 360 completely died right now, witch it won't, Sony would have to keep selling 256.000 consoles a month, for 20 months, to even equal 360 sales. I know you people will disagree but it is what it is.

LMAO! This is so funny, look at all those disagrees, lol. How can you disagree with that? Some people just can't be reasoned with. Lamers.

[Mr_Kuwabara]

Think of the 360 as the Sega Dreamcast. The Dreamcast had a 16 month head start over the PS2, and yet the PS2 surpassed the Dreamcast and toppled there sales like 13 times what they had already sold. (They sold like 10 million or something)

Now I'm not saying that the 360 will die like the Sega Dreamcast but it just comes to say that you cannot judge the figure sales on a console now in there first month/year of life.

Give it time bro.

[Mikelarry]

i just read that the 360 had the biggest sale according to the npd results. fanboys make me lol. its all good when the 360 has a bad rap but wasnt it just a few days ago we heard sony begging developers not to quit on thier system.

[Daishi]

Well you don't need games to sell a BR player, but I will say that the 40gb will do for Sony what the 20GB already has. If your going to buy what's considered the most high end console why would you get the ghetto version?

[P4KY B]

by Feb 2009

[Grim]

and that is a success???!!!!

[WilliamRLBaker]

all the ps3tards keep saying sony is winning europe........they are?
last I checked Wii, DS, we're kicking the crap out of the system in europe....lol its gonna be funny if sony gets 3rd or 2nd behind Wii!

lets not forget Xbox 360 only dropped by 5000 units, the Ps3 from the week prior dropped by 10k.

[nix]

suddenly people remember Wii!

[Rooftrellen]

But...but...*thinks of nonsense fanboy gibberish* it's just to GC duct taped together, so its last gen!

"Then GC outsold PS2 last gen."

But...but...Wii is next gen according to some people.

"Then Wii is beating PS3"

But...but...

[ps3gogetitt]

Remember the PS3 did the same thing with the first price drop but it didn't last, please guys don't get excited until you see this for at least 2 to 3 months straight, 1 or 2 weeks is not enough to get exciting over.....

Caution guys, lets see if this last before we start to celebrate uncertain victory, REMEMBER the FIRST PRICE DROP

[sjappie]

for people with sense. Bubble!

[Irving]

If you remember, the price drop itself didn't last a month. As soon as Sony went out of stock for 60GB, they introduced 80GB for 599$ again. This price drop however, is here to stay.

[sjappie]

that has been selling so good last week.

[nix]

and look! everyone is running towards it with a torch! q:

[Sevir04]

LOL!!! thats so funny... xbox fans are trying to defend and PS3 Fans are having a blast. LOL!!! both camps are speeding towards the Gas tank with RPGs and Flamethrowers >>> another stupid post just to satr anoother meaning less war...

yes pigeons Yes, Fly right into the Fire. lol!!!

i'm outta here, no sense in sticking around in this thread, off to scoure the web for ratchet reveiws

[dantesparda]

Thas was funny Nix, i like that

[Sez]

wow two weeks and sonyfanboy are claiming sony is on a come back. sony did the samething in july when the price drop only diffence this time is the holiday season is coming. so ps3 number should be going up not down.

[Synex]

The difference this time around is that there are now games coming out for it. Well the ones people keep talking about atleast.

[Sez]

what games. R&C is the only one that will generate high sales. haze is new and unproven so is uncharted. so unless you brought the system already. i don't see people running out to break their neck to get one for these games.

[chrno]

well mass effect is also unproven, so why is everyone praising it as an AAA title then?

[Sez]

because ME is made by bioware. which make good games. name one game bioware screwed up on. i'll wait.

[IntelligentAj]

Because a game is made by a certain company that virtually giarantees it's a success? Come on man.

[Bazookajoe_83]

Wait a month and see

[kss]

remember this day my dear gay xbots this is the start of an new era the ps3 age has began

[BloodySinner]

... you are retarded.

[mighty_douche]

my friends which own a 360 (i have a lot) have all said that when they bought their console (some at launch) that if the ps3 was avaliable at a 'sensible' price they would of bought that instead. in fact about 5 of them have since the price drop.
at the end of the day the 360 had no compition for a year and now the prices of the 2 machines are closer i think you'll see this reflect in the sale.

anyway, im a gamer, i dont care about sales figures or fancy looking pie charts and im not sure why so many of you do.

[ry-guy]

Me too. But me personally, I am waiting for another price cut (maybe next summer time) and much volume to the gaming library.

I know there are good games available NOW but I want to save some money (time and sanity) by buying them down the road when everything has seen price slides.

[Leg-End]

but it won't appeal to many people compared to games like halo, rachet or uncharted - that's one of the issues the original xbox faced

[Ju]

Another one is AceCombat6. But, I agree, I am curious how that sells on the 360. That was a PS2 title all along. I am curious to see if that will be recognized on the 360 or if it will only be a so-so sale. The "hardcore" bundle (and price) won't help, either.

And then.. after a month or so, I hope they'll announce the PS3 version :) This variety was always a strength of the PS brand. With MassEffect and AceCombat its coming to the 360 (a bit). But the PS3 is countering with Ratchet, Uncharted, EyeOfJudgement, Folklore (which I think belongs in that list - even though not that recognized - but since the last demo, I would put it in here).

And them, there are a ton shooters coming out. With a lot of AAA- titles shifting to 2008, Haze will be one which can make a diff in 2007 (CoD4 is multiplatform, so is Assasins Creed, etc.).

[Bazookajoe_83]

I just have to disagree about ace combat, it´s maybe the worst game ive ever played, onpar with gundam.

This is just my oppinion, but i cant find any logic to why anyone would like this game.

Edit: I only mean ace combat, mass effect will be cool..

[blusoops]

I'm also gonna have to agree on Ace Combat. The graphics are killer, and very realistic, but I played the demo on my friend's XBox 360 and truthfully I found it somewhat boring. I'd rather be in a Warhawk or Nemesis!

[Ju]

I can agree about Ace Combat. It's not everybody's taste. However, I just like flying action games, and the only other (next-gen) game is Blazing Angels, ATM. The visuals where always stunning in the series and pushed the envelope (even though, its mostly sky in the environment). That said, I think this genre enriches the 360s portfolio. And, if it would be on the PS3, it would do there, too. I know its not a system seller, though.

[kss]

because sales have a direct effect on games

[lov2bugu]

i really really think that sony will catch up once GT5, killzone, little planet, and MGS come out. sony always work slow all the way up, i still think that you need to compare the xbox 360 to ps2. its just not fair to compare it with ps3.

its like comparing nascar car with f1 lol

[hardcorehippiez]

those that rise quickly fall quickly. sonys machines never have had a great 1st year bt yet they are the most successful, hmm i wonder why that is

[kss]

the ps3 will set the world on fire

[LoydX-mas]

it must have started in southern California.

[Daishi]

ou sir nearly made me shat myself from laughing too hard, Bravo! And you have probably the best pic I've ever seen.

[Bladestar]

wow... PS3 sells goes up as obviously predicted due to price drop... and this equals Xbox flops!? I doubt it...

[SmokeyMcBear]

sneaky bastard changing names and creating multiple accounts, you should be reprimanded