Update On Brink From Splash Damage

TGH Writes: "Brink has been released in the US to quite a few concerns and outspoken reviews and community who have found issues in the PC and Xbox 360 versions of the title. Publisher Bethesda and developers Splash Damage have looked into the aspects mentioned and recently commented on everything via the BethBlog. Paul Wedgwood the games director over at Splash Damage addresses the concerns."

[jsslifelike]

Nice to see some timely response on SD's part.

[StanLee]

Almost a 2 year delay since its first announced release and the game still launches to a number of technical issues. Yeah, very timely response.

/Sarcasm

[antz1104]

The day after launch they announce "we have issues, and we're working on it."

Would you rather they didn't update us that quick?

[Rob946]

Im hearing a few bad things about this game but I think im going to buy it anyway seeing as iv waited so long for it.

[Joni-Ice]

Don't do it. Not at $60. I got it yesterday played it for a fews hours but didnt like the texture pop-ins, jaggy edges and sound. I have the PS3 version. It worth $40. By the way, UPS just picked it up from me, its going back to Amazon.

[Rob946]

Im thinking of doing a Gamestop trade in offer, trade 3games from a list of 500 get it for 3euro might as well.

[joydestroy]

yeah man, i'd recommend picking it up. i got it for $50 and think it's worth it! as soon as verizon calls me back about a phone upgrade i'm hoping on it!

[TheGameFoxJTV]

Do it dude. The game is very fun, it's a mp shooter from a company that specializes in MP shooters. The only people who don't like it hate Team based games anyways,. If you like Battlefield, TF2, or anything like that you WILL enjoy the game. Just look over at the steam forums for this game if you don't believe me. Most of the topic and people there love the game just as much as everyone else.

[Focker420]

I'm not a massive fan. Bought it yesterday and beat the campaign on both sides in about 5 hours. Theres only like 8 missions total. Which is unfortunate because I was very excited for this game to be good. The story is non existent, every level is the resistance tries to destroy the ark and escape and security tries to stop them.

The gameplay is fairly decent, and the classes have a small bit of depth. I'm personally disappointed and will most likely be trading it in by the end of the week though. I will be trying it online to see if it performs any better, but at this point its a pretty big let down.

[antz1104]

There's like 8 missions per faction, so around 16.

[DaCajun]

But still is only 8 maps. Should have just been called a multiplayer only game. The single player is non-existent, it's just multiplayer with crappy bots.

[ShadyDevil]

I personally can't wait to get this title. A few friends have it and are really enjoying it. Trying to decide PS3 or Xbox but both versions are being kept under a microscope and being patched so it looks like good developer support all around.

[Tripl3seis]

im leaning towards l.a noires way idk if u should get the game cus i have a feeling im not going to get my moneys worth if i get it idk i have to wait and see wat my friends say about it.

[NobleGamer]

Just wait for LA Noire no point buying this at all.

[Rob946]

There's no reason people can't get both. I think im going to get it anyway looks pretty fun and has got some good reviews, im really interested to try out the character customization it looks pretty cool.

[Joni-Ice]

Agreed

[KDubyah]

Haha, I'm getting both games. :) I just got Brink today, gonna play soon.

[mrv321]

From what I can tell

1. Great game
2. Flawed

It controls fine, the multiplayer seems fine, but... the A.I kinda sucks, only 8 maps, with little variation.

If this generation has proved ANYTHING it's that, re-releases work. Here's an idea, give the main disk owners patches and update as they come. Make them good. Improve the A.I especially in singleplayer so they are more player focused. Then in 6 months when this game has went from a 5/10 to a 8/10 which is do-able with smaller fixes just release Brink: Resurection on PSN/XBL for $20. You will sell a million+ by doing that I mean Battlefield 1943 sold well not because it was cheap but because it was the right price. I'd pay $20 for it. And have DLC maps for $1.99, which new disk owners get free or something.

Release 5 maps... that's $30, there you've made back developement costs.

Easiest fix of them all? PLAYER ONLY matches, where you only face human oppnents, or where each team has a constant amount of bots 0, 5, 10. Regardless of how many people join there will always be the set amount of bots. The difference is if one team is owning then the opponents bots are better.

Fixed.

[TheGameFoxJTV]

THIS GAME ISN'T ABOUT SINGLEPLAYER! Bots are unimportant!

[mrv321]

That WOULD be the case if the bots don't also take part in multiplayer games, meaning that you could click multiplayer and find yourself on a team with bots.

Better bots=Better multiplayer

[outlawlife]

bot are very important considering when you get online half of the team ends up being fleshed out by bots

[TheGameFoxJTV]

Go to a server without bots. lol

[lochdoun]

There's gonna come a point where there is only so much they can do to fix the console versions.
So if you bought the PC version, you made the right choice because Splash Damage can completely change the game with patches in a way that they just can't do with console games.
For example: Team Fortress 2 on PC is a COMPLETELY different game than when it launched.

[STONEY4]

But TF2 was actually already amaxingly good at launch anyways. The updates just added a lot more variety to the classes and game, with items, weapon properties, crafting and such. Brink isn't.

[wallis]

This is a situation where a little insight into the industry at an earlier stage of production would have seriously helped out Brink.

Firstly, look at others treading the same path. Games that cross mp and sp? Left4dead - separated coop and pvp a good year or two before release due to negative feedback during testing. So when a company as experienced as valve are stepping off of an idea then maybe you should consider why.

Secondly, look at similar games that package sp and mp so closely. The most obvious example for me is UT3. It taught us that multiplayer match + bots + cutscene does not equal a campaign yet brink trips right up into that pothole regardless.

Thirdly, if SP is your weak point don't make it the crux of your marketing campaign. The background of the ark and brink's storyline permeate just about every damned advert I've watched for it yet it seems to be an experience that's almost completely involved in multiplayer.

For me brink represents a failed attempt to meld sp and mp, but that doesn't necessarily make it a bad game. It's still got some solid multiplayer under there and the bulk of reviews seem to focus on their fury at a misrepresented SP, bugs, and shoddy AI. Well one of those things can be fixed with a patch and the other two just need human company.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I am still pretty positive on this game... but it definitely took some wrong turns in regard to single player.

[antz1104]

Agreed. Good game but for all the different objectives I feel like they all boil down to one choke point where tactics don't matter, just bodies and firepower. That and the classes seemed underpowered if you need to push through a specific area (i.e. an escort).

[GUYwhoPLAYSvideoGAME]

this is a stretch and i know that it's weird, and probably just me, but to be honest i'd enjoy brink a megaton more if they had more and better death animations W/ ragdoll physics.

In a shooter like brink i think that's important, this will probably make me sound sick, but it just looks awesome and is more satisfying when you throw a grenade and whoever got hit flies, and ragdolls. In that case you're like, wow, intense, it's like the movies, awesome. in brinks case it's more like...oh win, good, whatever, same death every time, it just makes the game look silly, and last gen.

heck for me, in a game like brink where the whole game is gunning on multiplayer maps anyways, i'd go as far as to say that it's a deciding factor in whether I'm getting it or not.

and if not ragdolls, atleast more animations, either one is just as good as the other. But one animation, without even a ragdoll, that's kinda lame

[Ducky]

Heh yea.

I was thinking to myself why killing just didn't feel all that satisfying. Then I realized it didn't have ragdolls.

So no, it isn't just you.
I've grown so accustomed to ragdolls. =/

[Oldman100]

100% agree. Better death animations would make this game much more enjoyable. Another thing that could use some improvement is the blood.

It's sad that an 8 year old game such as max payne 2 has ragdoll animation but a game released just now does not. It almost gives me that nostalgic feeling of being back in the good old ps1 days.

It's pretty pathetic when you think about it. Maybe if we bitch and complain enough they'll patch it in? Or if you have the pc version wait for someone to make a mod. I hope they can make it happen.

[lpfisher]

Can't wait to pick this one up...no surprise they're supporting it so well.

[BoNeSaW23]

Read enough on this MEDIOCRE game.
PASSSSSSS!!!!
Better luck next time Splash.

[Euthanasia78]

I waited years for this? I ran my mouth about how it was gonna change fps games? I love tf2, lfd, and other coop shooters. I hate Brink. I hate it. Lag, jaggies, framerate, poor animations. Perfect Dark Zero looks better IMO. I'm so dissapointed.

[Speakindatruth]

This game ain't half bad. On PC. On anything else, it's downright terrible.

[stuntman_mike]

I dont see why they even bothered with a SP mode it always looked like a multi-player game they should have just stuck with that and added more game modes.